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  1. #6496
    Please post these threads in the Crime & Safety thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phordphan  [View Original Post]
    Whoever told you that is clueless. It's the conflating of two completely different scenarios.

    Scenario 1: You are driving down the street when a cop pulls you over for the old "rear license illumination" excuse. You're nervous, the cop is suspicious. However, he does not have PROBABLE CAUSE for a search, he's only suspicious. He then asks if it's OK to look in your trunk. If he had probable cause he wouldn't ask, he'd order you to open it. You then have two choices. You can say "Not unless you have a warrant. " Or you can say 'Sure. Go ahead. " If you do consent to the search, and if he finds the dead body of a hooker, he will use that against you. It's a legal search because you consented to it. You can argue admissibility later, but that will be an uphill battle.

    Scenario 2: You are crossing back into the USA from Mexico (or any other point of entry). You look suspicious. The CBP agent says "Open your bag, please. " Or "turn out your pockets. " Or whatever. He does NOT need probable cause. Therefore he does not ask, he orders. Your consent is absolutely NOT necessary. Any contraband they find can be used against you. BTW, this extends not only to your person, or your luggage, but also to your computer and cell phone. The only exception, and this has not yet been adjudicated by SCOTUS yet, only by the 9th Circus, is they must have "reasonable suspicion" in order to perform in-depth analysis (like hacking encrypted files, etc.) on the device.

    To summarize, CBP does NOT need permission. Whether or not you consent to the search is immaterial. You have waived nothing because you have nothing to waive.

  2. #6495
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainSolo  [View Original Post]
    Melissa has left HK. Saturday afternoon found her back in front of hotel Garcia, talking into her phone as usual. I asked her how was her business. She smiled sweetly, saying business was great.

    She's tall, hot body, light skin, pretty face looking like Jennifer Connelly. She lasted only 2 weeks in HK. There are just too many hot girls in HK, hanging out all night not selling anything. Competition is fierce. Girls find out its hard to make any money in the bar. Lots of them would leave the bar to make more steady money in the alley.

    For HK girls who want $100-200, the bros should tell them their prices are ridiculous, nobody would buy. Soon those same haughty girls would sell sex in the alley for $15 to $20. Just be patient.
    Melissa is cute. But her phone obsession really gets in the way. Garcia is also a negative thing. Dirty rooms plus sticky fingers manager.

  3. #6494
    Quote Originally Posted by Jackie888  [View Original Post]
    I hear that one should fully comply with an order from the CBP. But if ordered, you can still challenge the admissibility of the evidence in a court of law. Now if you give the CBP approval to search, you waive your rights with your consent. Everything is admitted to bury you. That's what I hear. No idea what it really means.
    Whoever told you that is clueless. It's the conflating of two completely different scenarios.

    Scenario 1: You are driving down the street when a cop pulls you over for the old "rear license illumination" excuse. You're nervous, the cop is suspicious. However, he does not have PROBABLE CAUSE for a search, he's only suspicious. He then asks if it's OK to look in your trunk. If he had probable cause he wouldn't ask, he'd order you to open it. You then have two choices. You can say "Not unless you have a warrant. " Or you can say 'Sure. Go ahead. " If you do consent to the search, and if he finds the dead body of a hooker, he will use that against you. It's a legal search because you consented to it. You can argue admissibility later, but that will be an uphill battle.

    Scenario 2: You are crossing back into the USA from Mexico (or any other point of entry). You look suspicious. The CBP agent says "Open your bag, please. " Or "turn out your pockets. " Or whatever. He does NOT need probable cause. Therefore he does not ask, he orders. Your consent is absolutely NOT necessary. Any contraband they find can be used against you. BTW, this extends not only to your person, or your luggage, but also to your computer and cell phone. The only exception, and this has not yet been adjudicated by SCOTUS yet, only by the 9th Circus, is they must have "reasonable suspicion" in order to perform in-depth analysis (like hacking encrypted files, etc.) on the device.

    To summarize, CBP does NOT need permission. Whether or not you consent to the search is immaterial. You have waived nothing because you have nothing to waive.

  4. #6493

    From Phordham Reference

    19 CFR § 162.6 - Search of persons, baggage, and merchandise.

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    § 162.6 Search of persons, baggage, and merchandise.

    All persons, baggage, and merchandise arriving in the Customs territory of the United States from places outside thereof are liable to inspection and search by a Customs officer. Port directors and special agents in charge are authorized to cause inspection, examination, and search to be made under section 467, Tariff Act of 1930, as amended (19 USA see. 1467), of persons, baggage, or merchandise, even though such persons, baggage, or merchandise were inspected, examined, searched, or taken on board the vessel at another port or place in the United States or the Virgin Islands, if such action is deemed necessary or appropriate.

    Conduct impact on border crossing time and avoiding the secondary. Comply if you can?

    T. D. 72-211,37 FR 16488, Aug. 15,1972.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackie888  [View Original Post]
    I hear that one should fully comply with an order from the CBP. But if ordered, you can still challenge the admissibility of the evidence in a court of law. Now if you give the CBP approval to search, you waive your rights with your consent. Everything is admitted to bury you. That's what I hear. No idea what it really means.

  5. #6492

    CBP Vetting no secondary? Conduct

    No secondary vetting treatment. Good to go.

    Conduct adjustment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dogers69  [View Original Post]
    When walking back they came from behind desk and said empty your pockets. Then patted me down. When I forgot a phone, cause the case was off, I said "what's that". He got so pissed. "It's your phone what do you mean what's that" . Like it was drugs. Prior to that, I always got a lot grief in questions on what I do for a living who I see in Mexico. Especially the woman border patrol. After the pat down, it stopped. Only one time in 40 trips did anyone ask more than two questions or seem fascinated on why I'm in Mexico. So I think they keep track to let others know they patted you down, if they pay you down. Kind of like a unofficial sentry pass. I'm not on their likely "guilty" list.

  6. #6491

    Trip report

    Headed down to Tijuana and arrived around 5:30 pm. Went down a bit early so I could stop by my tailor on Madero. Walked around the Zona dnd did not see any of US girls. Hung out till around 9 pm and decided to go with Cynthia. Got a good BBJ / facial for $15. Cynthia has a nice personality. She always wears a black tank top and walks around aimlessly on Constitution. Her BJ's skills are quite good. I was originally going to stay longer, but I was feeling tired and wanted to get home. I had a taco earlier and my stomach was a bit upset later on that night. Not sure if it was the taco or something else I ate. Also heard that Nicole decided to turn her self for a outstanding warrant she had in Orange County.

  7. #6490
    Actually I have few problems. With the US girls. The problem is finding a good or new one these days. Most of the hot ones like Jamie. Either have boyfriend's or rarely work. There has been reports of a few new US girls.
    Few new US girls or that one girl Esmerealda. The other issue is that they don't have cell phones or are disconnected.

    Quote Originally Posted by Artisttyp  [View Original Post]
    Thats the vibe I got from her but with American Girls you never know since being " difficult " is fairly common with alot of them. On the other hand it could be the drugs as well and knowing she will get her fix after a session can sometimes lead to a decent session.

    Thanks for the info.

  8. #6489
    Quote Originally Posted by Hargow20  [View Original Post]
    Yes, her name is Trina. Service was lame and her body has way to much wear. Got a BBJ / facial from her. Was telling her how I wanted it and complained. Really quite irritating since I was being nice to her. Never again.
    Thats the vibe I got from her but with American Girls you never know since being " difficult " is fairly common with alot of them. On the other hand it could be the drugs as well and knowing she will get her fix after a session can sometimes lead to a decent session.

    Thanks for the info.

  9. #6488
    Quote Originally Posted by BearBare  [View Original Post]
    No. Your rights for now are nullified near an international border. They can go through your phone and pat you down for no reason if they want. CBP has way more power within 0-50 miles of the border than any other Fed Agency. Don't test them and be compliant. Unless you really like painful time killers that ruin any plans you have for a while.
    I hear that one should fully comply with an order from the CBP. But if ordered, you can still challenge the admissibility of the evidence in a court of law. Now if you give the CBP approval to search, you waive your rights with your consent. Everything is admitted to bury you. That's what I hear. No idea what it really means.

  10. #6487
    Yes, her name is Trina. Service was lame and her body has way to much wear. Got a BBJ / facial from her. Was telling her how I wanted it and complained. Really quite irritating since I was being nice to her. Never again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Artisttyp  [View Original Post]
    Have you been with the American Walker who sits outside Hotel CeCi at night? She wears a blond wig. I think she said her name was Brina? She had a bad attitude but wouldn't mind a BJ from her.

    Thanks.

  11. #6486
    Quote Originally Posted by Jackie888  [View Original Post]
    I hear that you should never give anyone approval to search you. If they ask why not, you tell them you have a constitutional right to privacy. They can still demand to search you. But the last thing you should do is to voluntarily surrender your Constitutional right to privacy.
    No. Your rights for now are nullified near an international border. They can go through your phone and pat you down for no reason if they want. CBP has way more power within 0-50 miles of the border than any other Fed Agency. Don't test them and be compliant. Unless you really like painful time killers that ruin any plans you have for a while.

  12. #6485
    Quote Originally Posted by Phordphan  [View Original Post]
    This is singularly bad advice. Nobody crossing into the USA from another country has a constitutional right to "privacy. " There actually is no such constitutional right. You do have a right against unreasonable search, but that does not apply at the border. If CBP wants to search you, they can and they don't need your permission. If they want to search your bags, they can. If they want to examine your cell phone, they can. This is all long-settled case law. The only question that has arisen is whether or not they need "reasonable suspicion" in order to examine encrypted files on your device. A better solution is to be polite and cooperative. Don't give the agent shit, and don't act nervous. Best advice of all. Don't smuggle illegal substances.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/19/162.6
    When walking back they came from behind desk and said empty your pockets. Then patted me down. When I forgot a phone, cause the case was off, I said "what's that". He got so pissed. "It's your phone what do you mean what's that" . Like it was drugs. Prior to that, I always got a lot grief in questions on what I do for a living who I see in Mexico. Especially the woman border patrol. After the pat down, it stopped. Only one time in 40 trips did anyone ask more than two questions or seem fascinated on why I'm in Mexico. So I think they keep track to let others know they patted you down, if they pay you down. Kind of like a unofficial sentry pass. I'm not on their likely "guilty" list.

  13. #6484
    Quote Originally Posted by Goyo61  [View Original Post]
    Thanks Mr Ent. Didn't realize the difference. I would think they would say $20 or 400 peso's. Why would they say 200 peso's?
    For many, many years the peso was at 10:1. 200 mxn = $20. That sort of pricing has stuck. The math is much easier. SGs were never priced in dollars until the gringos started swarming in. So, 200 pesos was always something of the norm for SG pricing. The exchange rate never was a significant factor because the prices were always in Pesos. Mexicans earn Pesos and they think in Pesos.

  14. #6483
    Quote Originally Posted by Jackie888  [View Original Post]
    I hear that you should never give anyone approval to search you. If they ask why not, you tell them you have a constitutional right to privacy. They can still demand to search you. But the last thing you should do is to voluntarily surrender your Constitutional right to privacy.
    This is singularly bad advice. Nobody crossing into the USA from another country has a constitutional right to "privacy. " There actually is no such constitutional right. You do have a right against unreasonable search, but that does not apply at the border. If CBP wants to search you, they can and they don't need your permission. If they want to search your bags, they can. If they want to examine your cell phone, they can. This is all long-settled case law. The only question that has arisen is whether or not they need "reasonable suspicion" in order to examine encrypted files on your device. A better solution is to be polite and cooperative. Don't give the agent shit, and don't act nervous. Best advice of all. Don't smuggle illegal substances.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/19/162.6

  15. #6482

    Hargow

    Have you been with the American Walker who sits outside Hotel CeCi at night? She wears a blond wig. I think she said her name was Brina? She had a bad attitude but wouldn't mind a BJ from her.

    Thanks.

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