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  1. #6097

    Karina wouldn't budge.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hargow20  [View Original Post]
    Anyone have any recent SG / SW news. ? I was hoping to head to Tijuana this evening. But a have had a slight cold this week and don't want to aggravate it. Will hopefully make it this weekend possibly.
    Walk out HK back door. Turn right. Go towards the end of the block. Not all the way to the corner, but also not all the way to the parking structure cave. Ok, just before the parking cave. Seems to be her usual spot. 5'6" brown hair pretty. 21,22. Thin but tone, not too thin. English not too shabby. Not great, but knows basics. Wanted 700 pesos even tho she clearly understood I already had a Cascadas room. I countered with 500 and she would not budge. As to going to her Stink Motel, that would have been 350 pesos + room. Again no counter when I said, well actually I only wanted HK motel. Walked around, came back 30 min later. Appeared she had no business since then. So I said really, rather stand here then go to HK for 500? Plus it was cold af. Oh well. Do I need to learn the outlying streets better so I can get away from overpriced "Square Block HK"? And I realize not ALL of that square block are that much, but I've had other nice lookers try to gouge me too. FWIW Cascadas worker (good guy) says they think I am Richie Americano and that is why.

  2. #6096
    Anyone have any recent SG / SW news. ? I was hoping to head to Tijuana this evening. But a have had a slight cold this week and don't want to aggravate it. Will hopefully make it this weekend possibly.

  3. #6095

    Thursday's & Kayla. ?

    I am wondering if anyone can tell me how Thursday's has been lately. I am thinking of heading back to Tijuana to see if I can find Kayla. I have heard reports multiple sources lately that Kayla has been out on Wed's & Thursday evenings. I have been in Tijuana on both Friday's and Saturday evenings and have not seen been able to find her. Seems quite odd that Kayla would work only the weekday's and skip weekends.

  4. #6094

    Trip report

    Headed down to Tijuana and arrived around 5 pm. I went a bit early so I see my tailor on Madero st. Tonight was irritating and unusual. Saw Samantha and said Hello, and kept on cruising. Around 8 pm I saw t group of US college girls eating at the taco stand by Hong Kong. Saw 2 blondes that were quite hot. These 2 blondes was the best girls I saw in the Zona all night. I saw also saw this other really hot light skinned Latino girl with her son. I waved and said Hello, but she ignored me. Kept on walking and ran into Olivia. Went to hotel and Olvia then tells me she is not going suck me off for 30 minutes. I then tell her I want do a facial and she starts complaining how I make her feel degraded. I get really irritated when I hear SW's and other women complain how prostitution makes them feel degraded. The working girls have to realize prostitution is sex for money. If they don't doing a particular sex act they should simply say no. I am always nice to the girls so I have no regrets. Olivia then stops 2 minutes into the BJ and I said I am leaving. She then demands to be paid the full amount or have the manager call the police. I gave her the $20 and left. Now I was originally hoping to find Kayla, Jamie or Nicole, but none of them came out. Jose Cruz and this other guy told me that Kayla has been out the past 3 nights. So I am wondering if Kayla is working mainly on weekdays. Also saw Trina and Cindy out. I ignored them because they both have to much wear for my tastes. I decided to try and find Samantha around 11 pm, but was unable to find her. Finally around 12 am I decided to head on home.

  5. #6093
    Now that the rain is dying down I am planning on heading to the Zona on Friday. Hoping to find Kayla or Jamie agian. But chances are slim as most of you know.

  6. #6092

    Paying pesos.

    As most of you know I have never paid pesos for girls. It's partially just out of habit. The other reason is because there is only about 4 girls that I see in the Zona. But perhaps I will try this when head to Zona on Friday. I only pay in pesos when I get a haircut. The odd thing is that they insist on charging me a higher price when I pay in dollars for the equivalent amount pesos. But when I do pay in pesos I do save about a dollar.

  7. #6091
    Quote Originally Posted by BearBare  [View Original Post]
    Introductions work too. So if you know someone in the Zona who's getting 200 intro from, say Paola, Zoe, or whomever, an intro can help. I have two friends (from another, now defunct board) who made intros and I got their rates.

    I know most fly solo but just an idea. 200 is easier the farther you get from the alley too. 1/2 way up Constitucion, just north of Primera its easy to get 200 pesos FS with momada sin condom.
    Yamilet from Guadalajara starts at 200 MX Pesos. She stands in front of Ibiza in the alley. Also if you can catch Mariel in near Ibiza not in front but just down from there on the same side. She is 200 MX Pesos. That is just to name a few. There are plenty out there if time is taken to do the recon and homework.

  8. #6090
    Introductions work too. So if you know someone in the Zona who's getting 200 intro from, say Paola, Zoe, or whomever, an intro can help. I have two friends (from another, now defunct board) who made intros and I got their rates.

    I know most fly solo but just an idea. 200 is easier the farther you get from the alley too. 1/2 way up Constitucion, just north of Primera its easy to get 200 pesos FS with momada sin condom.

  9. #6089
    Quote Originally Posted by Jackie888  [View Original Post]
    Yeah but your rates are established rates, established years ago coupled with familiarity and gifts. That isn't going to be the rate for the average new Joe Smoe.
    Jackie, I basically agree with you.

    The key factors that you are discussing. I was trying very hard to disclose, rather than conceal.

    But also bear in mind that I am always sharing notes with fellow monger in Tijuana about the chicas, including their pricing. And I am practically never having these discussions with average new Joe Smoes.

    My Quasi-Wingman is in Tijuana far more frequently than I am these days. When he introduces me to a fellow monger, I am always meeting the most hardened, long-time vets of LZ. Why waste our time, spending time, with average new Joe Smoes? What are they going to teach us?

    A large portion of the mongers that I share notes with have long stays and / or long-term rental arrangements at Hacienda de Santiago or Posada de Santiago (formerly Hotel Leyva).

    And those experienced guys, in large part, pay the chicas the exact same amounts that I did: 100 p for a BBBJ or 150 p for toda. Those are typical fees paid by crusty old mongers.

    From back in day #1 of my Tijuana experiences, I was never interested in knowing what the average new Joe Smoe paid. I wanted to know what the experienced Tijuana vet paid.

    Admittedly, I must consider that my QW might only be introducing me to the cheapest mongers out there, because that's the group I belong in. Haha.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackie888  [View Original Post]
    From my experience, the average everything FS without clothes is 500 pesos.
    That 500 p fee is a common fee paid by my QW, but he expects a lot por quinientos. While I am interested in having a bunch of 15 minute quickies, primarily with street walkers, he sessions exclusively with Street Girls for a firm 60 minutes in his room. He has other requirements that we don't need to get into at this time, in this forum.

    Quote Originally Posted by MongerHunger  [View Original Post]
    Anybody can get a base rate at 200 MX Pesos. You can get sin ropa for 250-300 MX Pesos. FS can go for as little as 350 MX Pesos. The biggest mistake you guys make is spending USD. I don't know how many times that we say this over and over and over again. *Do not spend USD* Always, always, always spend MX Pesos. It doesn't matter if you're a newbie or not, it's all about the way you carry yourself and your negotiation skills. Be confident and control the situation. DO NOT let the chica set the price. You have to do that. You have to set the tone of the deal. If you're walking around La Zona like you don't know nothing you can get taking advantage of and pay higher prices. This forum is very informative on ways to negotiate. Apply what you are reading and be firm. I guarantee you that anytime I hit La Zona I can find a descent chica for 200 MX pesos base price and FS less than 400 MX pesos. No regalos needed. Only bring regalos for your established regulars, not for some random chica that you are meeting for the first time. Oh and do not spend USD!
    MongerHunter is an experienced vet. I think I've said that before.

  10. #6088
    Quote Originally Posted by Dcrist0527  [View Original Post]
    Thanks. Haven't seen that brand here locally. But I live in BFE.
    Try Condom Depot on line and look under the Lifestyles brand.

  11. #6087

    Rates

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackie888  [View Original Post]
    Yeah but your rates are established rates, established years ago coupled with familiarity and gifts. That isn't going to be the rate for the average new Joe Smoe.

    From my experience, the average everything FS without clothes is 500 pesos. The girls have formed some sort of cartel and put a price floor down. Well at least the more attractive ones nearer to Cascadas. For 300 pesos, all that I can get is to drop her pants and I'm Screwing a doll, and that's just not my thing.
    Anybody can get a base rate at 200 MX Pesos. You can get sin ropa for 250-300 MX Pesos. FS can go for as little as 350 MX Pesos. The biggest mistake you guys make is spending USD. I don't know how many times that we say this over and over and over again. *Do not spend USD* Always, always, always spend MX Pesos. It doesn't matter if you're a newbie or not, it's all about the way you carry yourself and your negotiation skills. Be confident and control the situation. DO NOT let the chica set the price. You have to do that. You have to set the tone of the deal. If you're walking around La Zona like you don't know nothing you can get taking advantage of and pay higher prices. This forum is very informative on ways to negotiate. Apply what you are reading and be firm. I guarantee you that anytime I hit La Zona I can find a descent chica for 200 MX pesos base price and FS less than 400 MX pesos. No regalos needed. Only bring regalos for your established regulars, not for some random chica that you are meeting for the first time. Oh and do not spend USD!

  12. #6086
    Quote Originally Posted by BaxterSlade  [View Original Post]
    You should not have a problem finding them in places like CVS, Walmart Etc. Etc.
    Thanks. Haven't seen that brand here locally. But I live in BFE.

  13. #6085
    Quote Originally Posted by ScatManDoo  [View Original Post]
    I'm sure that's what Hargow regularly pays, but there's two things to consider regarding what Hargow pays.

    1). He is generally asking chicas for something that costs more (some chicas even refuse) and that is he typically wants to do a facial on them, and.

    2). While he often complains about the quotes he receives, I believe he stubbornly insists upon paying them in US dollars and not pesos. Many people believe they get much better deals using pesos.

    For example, I typically pay street walkers 100 pesos for a blow job and 150 pesos for "toda". But I am also known for having a drawer in my room filled with regalo items (typical 99-cent-only store like items).


    Over the years I've only had a couple of chicas brought in for a BJ refuse my suggestion for an upgrade to toda for only 50 p more. In the past those chicas had to settle for the original deal and get just 100 pesos. And in those rare instances I guess I was a little passive / aggressive and offered them to pick out only one regalo item from the drawer instead of my typical grant of two regalo items.".
    Yeah but your rates are established rates, established years ago coupled with familiarity and gifts. That isn't going to be the rate for the average new Joe Smoe.

    From my experience, the average everything FS without clothes is 500 pesos. The girls have formed some sort of cartel and put a price floor down. Well at least the more attractive ones nearer to Cascadas. For 300 pesos, all that I can get is to drop her pants and I'm Screwing a doll, and that's just not my thing.

  14. #6084
    Quote Originally Posted by Dcrist0527  [View Original Post]
    Any recommendations on where to buy SKYN? I am heading out soon and won't have time to order online. I typically use the bareskin Trojans. I guess I have sensitivity issues. More often than not, I can literally go at it for hours without a condom and not finish. So obviously, condoms don't help. So I'm definitely looking for something that allows the best feel because bare just isn't a risk I will take.
    You should not have a problem finding them in places like CVS, Walmart Etc. Etc.

  15. #6083

    SKYN Condoms.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dcrist0527  [View Original Post]
    Any recommendations on where to buy SKYN? I am heading out soon and won't have time to order online. I typically use the bareskin Trojans. I guess I have sensitivity issues. More often than not, I can literally go at it for hours without a condom and not finish. So obviously, condoms don't help. So I'm definitely looking for something that allows the best feel because bare just isn't a risk I will take.
    I pick my SKYN condoms up at Wal-Mart. They are at a good price for a pack of 12.

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