Streetwalker Reports

[Artisttyp]

If you're in ACA now and are roaming with your US phone, or have a Mexican SIM, then just call their phone. You don't need whatsapp. It's good for international calls and messaging, or if you go to MX and are using your phone over the WiFi for messaging.

So is a Whatsapp number also dialed like a regular number from my mexican cell? I am clueless.

Thanks.

By the way I have a Locanto account now. I used my real email but fake name. Works fine. I am Jeff Sessions.

[John Clayton]

Thanks for the Locanto tip. I am currently in Aca using Milerotico with success. I looked at Locanto earlier, might try later.

Beware many use Whatsapp. I don't have an account!

If you're in ACA now and are roaming with your US phone, or have a Mexican SIM, then just call their phone. You don't need whatsapp. It's good for international calls and messaging, or if you go to MX and are using your phone over the WiFi for messaging.

[DaLongerMonger]

I've lived in some of the "worst" ghettos, barrios, and and / or on the streets of the US for most of my life. I've never saw a single case of sex trafficking. I have however seen a whole lot of girls who have deep inner desires to be working girls. Society has made them feel shameful for having those desires, so when someone comes along and offers them a way to act on those desires without taking responsibility for them, they often accept and appreciate that. That doesn't mean that all enjoy being a working girl to literally anyone they see, but her desire to please her pimp, who's given her the key to act on her desires, and the pleasure she gets from doing that keeps her out there every day. No one in the US or Mexico is truly forced into sex work. There are places in world where people are out of legitimate life or death poverty, but not here. If a girl here truly wants to get away, there are many organizations who'll help her do that very easily.

100% agree, the media overstates this issue. And I have absolutely zero knowledge about anything like that in Tijuana. But I also know with certainty it occurs in the US. Again, probably nowhere near the numbers the media would like us to believe. But I do believe, as consumers of more legitimate businesses, we have a duty to call it out if and when we see it. And I do not think it's a blurry line. Is she 100% knowingly and willingly in the business or not?

I'm off my high horse. Again, I don't mean to offend or judge anyone. I'm not casting stones.

[Artisttyp]

Thanks for the Locanto tip. I am currently in Aca using Milerotico with success. I looked at Locanto earlier, might try later.

Beware many use Whatsapp. I don't have an account!

I just received a response from a chica on Locanto but they won't allow me to read it until I sign up for a free account. That Sucks. I leave in a few days so it makes no sense for me.

Curious to know how this works for Tijuana? Would they go to zona hotels?

[Artisttyp]

Managed? A number of years ago I was walking down Constitucion mid-evening (after dark) and I found myself behind guy with a clipboard. As he went by a girl he would make a mark.

Trafficked? My many year personal SG "novia" in Penasco tells me that the US media hype over trafficking is nonsense. She says if anyone if trafficked it is Russians and Eastern Europeans but not Mexicans. Now, there are a lot of hangers-on and pimps in the business but no one is going around kidnapping girls off the street to bring them to HK as the San Diego Trib would have you believe. She did tell me about a local doctor who rents out his wife. Is that trafficking?

On a related subject she agrees that the demise of Craigslist and Backpage puts the girls in great danger as has been reported elsewhere. Fortunately Mileroticos and Locanto are still in business but are probably not well known to the average US guy.

Thanks for the Locanto tip. I am currently in Aca using Milerotico with success. I looked at Locanto earlier, might try later.

Beware many use Whatsapp. I don't have an account!

[Dcrist0527]

100% agree, the media overstates this issue. And I have absolutely zero knowledge about anything like that in Tijuana. But I also know with certainty it occurs in the US. Again, probably nowhere near the numbers the media would like us to believe. But I do believe, as consumers of more legitimate businesses, we have a duty to call it out if and when we see it. And I do not think it's a blurry line. Is she 100% knowingly and willingly in the business or not?

I'm off my high horse. Again, I don't mean to offend or judge anyone. I'm not casting stones.

no one is going around kidnapping girls off the street to bring them to HK as the San Diego Trib would have you believe.

[TJSteve]

I don't think any of us know for sure, but we are using street smarts. If the girl receive a call after time is up. I assume she's being managed. One girl showed me her what's app message with some other girl who basically asked if she was ok and had received my payment. She replied yes. Other times, they will tell the girl standing next to them which hotel they are going to and that's the only communication they have as to where they are going. Maybe both girls have the same pimp?

Anti prostitution propaganda would have you believe some girls working at HK are probably trafficked sex slaves. Who the hell knows. Until US customs warns me to stay away Zona Norte I will trust that I shouldn't feel bad about going.

Managed? A number of years ago I was walking down Constitucion mid-evening (after dark) and I found myself behind guy with a clipboard. As he went by a girl he would make a mark.

Trafficked? My many year personal SG "novia" in Penasco tells me that the US media hype over trafficking is nonsense. She says if anyone if trafficked it is Russians and Eastern Europeans but not Mexicans. Now, there are a lot of hangers-on and pimps in the business but no one is going around kidnapping girls off the street to bring them to HK as the San Diego Trib would have you believe. She did tell me about a local doctor who rents out his wife. Is that trafficking?

On a related subject she agrees that the demise of Craigslist and Backpage puts the girls in great danger as has been reported elsewhere. Fortunately Mileroticos and Locanto are still in business but are probably not well known to the average US guy.

[Dcrist0527]

Going down the rabbit hole of morality about what happens to your money once it leaves your hands is silly IMO.

I agree, to an extent. I don't think, though, that I'm splitting hairs when I differentiate between a business agreement (paying for prime real estate in front of HK) vs trafficking.

I have no problem with a few of my dollars going to Cascadas as a kickback from the girl to the business. Or an agency taking $20 for a finder's fee. As you said, we'll never know for certain. But I do have a strong moral aversion to supporting any sort of trafficking! And that's why I avoid, at all costs, those that appear to hate everything.

[NoDramaGuy3]

I have a harem of models and porn stars in the USA, some of them do it with me for free. So it is not sex I seek, but the danger element. Grime factor too. Some sort of domination fetish..

Really? Teach me your ways. I'd love to have that. You must be a male model, MS Clive. I've gotten some good reactions from girls eager to see me again, but you seem to be pretty consistent about it. I don't have any working girls trying to hang out with me for free LOL.

Woke up with a boner around 4 AM Wednesday and found a short fair skinned girl with a delightful set of perky be cups at Karla's Place (formerly Edouardo?) Slight baby damage in the torso but not too bad. She asked for payment up front. I had a good feeling so I obliged and it worked out well. Wouldn't let me suck her nipples, though. She started in CG and we switched to mish. She squealed each time I stuck it in her. Sorry, forgot to get her name.

I think you're talking about Nancy. She works from 10 pm to 5 am everyday at that spot.

I was trying to get better value for my money. 500 peso for 30 minutes rather than two 15 minutes for 600 peso. If the girls are willing to deal. Has anybody been able to negotiate 60 minute for 700 peso. Do you have to explain the benefits to the girls, of not.

I've gotten 700 for an hour before, but not since all the chicas started brushing up on their putanomics classes that have nothing to do with economics. The girl just liked me enough to accept 700, but she was serious about "just this one time" as the next time the rates went back up. I've gotten as low as 150 for full service per session, but also not since the price increases. In any case, it really depends on the girl. But I should really say it depends on where you are standing in the alley or on the streets. You would do well to assume that each "bar" or "hotel" is its own little municipality with its own rules and expectations for the girls. That being said, up until a few weeks ago 500 seemed to be about the average standard quoting price for half an hour, but I never ask for those. I don't see any point to limiting myself seeing as how the hotels are just as bad at putanomics. I just give a starting price and a continuation price, which usually for me means I pay one rate up (and never their full asking rate) and the secondary sessions are all 200 pesos. I will occasionally do 300 pesos to continue, but I have to be feeling like Santa Claus for that. I generally cap 1 hour at 800 pesos, so at 500 pesos for half an hour it's dumb. If you get a full hour but only need 45 minutes, you just wasted 15 minutes worth of time and pesos for a lot of girls. The nicer ones will give you a massage or something if you ask, but I've seen a lot that are dressed and ready to go faster than emergency personnel on standby as soon as that pop is done. I think I do better than most in terms of cost. I still can't beat ScatManDoo, though. That man is a god when it comes to saving money. I took some of his tips but I still want to improve to getting BBJ's for 100-150 pesos regularly.

Grabbed this from a video uploaded on YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfe5Y_uU91Y). Has anyone taken this girl to a room?

No idea who that is. I had to laugh when I saw Ximena and her friend be the first to notice the camera and shield themselves.

Anyone done TLN with a SG? What are the going rates? Same or better service tln than bar girl?

I stopped asking for TLN rates a long time ago, but here was my experience. The girls that I asked, even though I'd gotten to know them a bit and they were beyond friendly with me, didn't differentiate between prices. When I asked one, she stopped and did some counting in her head, added up the hours, then gave me her exact hourly rate over that many hours. I thought maybe she just didn't understand that I was trying to come to a middle ground where we both benefit, but then another girl nearby did the exact same thing. I assumed it was also putanomics at play.

Of course I don't have any proof but I think it would be a little naive to think that most street girls are independent business women. At the very least, I assume they have to pay for "protection" from criminal elements, much like I'm sure most of the bars in Zona are paying to keep crime away from Zona Norte.

I am always keenly aware of this whenever I'm walking around or talking with the girls down there. Pretty much every girl will deny having a pimp or a padrote, though they will all claim to know other girls that do. They go both ways, though. Some do, some don't. Some of them actually have a lot of sense with what they want to do. They are the ones that tend to be buying a house with their money, supporting their mother and child, and squirrelling away money. Usually these are the types that also appreciate warm conversations. There are also a ton of girls that seem to always be focused on their phone. Then there are the few that look like they hate you, hate life, avoid eye contact with everyone at all costs, and would run away if they could. I feel bad for them, but I avoid them as much as possible.

[CaptJackSparro]

I don't think any of us know for sure, but we are using street smarts. If the girl receive a call after time is up. I assume she's being managed. One girl showed me her what's app message with some other girl who basically asked if she was ok and had received my payment. She replied yes. Other times, they will tell the girl standing next to them which hotel they are going to and that's the only communication they have as to where they are going. Maybe both girls have the same pimp?

Standing near Cascadas is extremely valuable for SG. I'm sure pimps or big daddy HKs pockets get greased for the privilege of standing on prime real estate. Everything in Zona norte is pay to play. Someone is getting a cut of the girls work, for sure.

Even the bar girls have large upfront costs before they can start working at HK (sexy clothes, health card is $100, etc).

Bar girls are just pimped by a corporation rather than a single person. They must pay fines if they break some of HKs rules.

HK describes their girls as freelance employees whose job it is to sell fichas for the bar. Seems reasonable on the surface.

However, if girls are gone for over 1 hour they may have to pay a fine when they return to the club. Reason is supposedly because the bar missed out on potential profit while she was gone. Everyone knows HK is essentially a brothel, but they have to operate as a strip bar for legal reasons. Their whole business model is politer pimping.

"Buy this $10 drink. We keep $8, she keeps 2".

"You were gone for 3 hours, [Deleted by Admin] where's my cut?

Pimps don't always take 100% .

Going down the rabbit hole of morality about what happens to your money once it leaves your hands is silly IMO.

Anti prostitution propaganda would have you believe some girls working at HK are probably trafficked sex slaves. Who the hell knows. Until US customs warns me to stay away Zona Norte I will trust that I shouldn't feel bad about going.

That's what I assumed. I don't have a ton of experience with SGs. I've gotten to know a few escorts and don't think they are managed like that. And I don't want to get on any high moral ground or let anyone think I'm judging anything or anyone. But managed girls just don't feel good. Protection is one thing. But if they aren't 100% into this business on their own, voluntarily, that's a deal breaker for me. Obviously, I'll never know that for certain, but just a downer. In the past, SGs have been my fall back. If I am just not feeling good with the BG selection, I lower the bar and don't mind losing $35. Not sure if I'll follow through with that logic this time.

Interestingly, I'll just say that the rotation in the US exists today. And I steer far clear of that activity.

[Dcrist0527]

That's what I assumed. I don't have a ton of experience with SGs. I've gotten to know a few escorts and don't think they are managed like that. And I don't want to get on any high moral ground or let anyone think I'm judging anything or anyone. But managed girls just don't feel good. Protection is one thing. But if they aren't 100% into this business on their own, voluntarily, that's a deal breaker for me. Obviously, I'll never know that for certain, but just a downer. In the past, SGs have been my fall back. If I am just not feeling good with the BG selection, I lower the bar and don't mind losing $35. Not sure if I'll follow through with that logic this time.

Interestingly, I'll just say that the rotation in the US exists today. And I steer far clear of that activity.

Boyfriend, pimp, padrote, husband, all very similar. Not by an agency or the hotel although some padrotes have had "family businesses" for several generations, many based out of a town in state of Puebla. Girls rotated between key cities in Mexico and USA although have not heard of any being in the US for several years it was common 10 yrs ago.

[Ninguno Especial]

What exactly does managed mean? I know the obvious definition. But specifically, are most managed by a BF? By a "professional"? And is this "management" similar to the setup in the US? I avoid managed girls in the US for numerous reasons. Is the arrangement different in Tijuana?

Boyfriend, pimp, padrote, husband, all very similar. Not by an agency or the hotel although some padrotes have had "family businesses" for several generations, many based out of a town in state of Puebla. Girls rotated between key cities in Mexico and USA although have not heard of any being in the US for several years it was common 10 yrs ago.

[CaptJackSparro]

I tend to agree. I feel really bad for the guys who willingly pay $120 for starfish sex. ID much rather jerk off than deal with a lot of the bar girls who feel entitled to get paid the same hourly rate a doctor would get in paid in the US for what is essentially low-skilled labor if they aren't going to knock my socks off. I mean, really think about how lucky these girls are. Most of them come from poverty and are able to help out their families A LOT with the opportunities the Zona provides.

Most will do enough to get you hard so you start thinking with your dick and when you get to the room they don't really care if you finish as long as they get paid. Obviously its not their problem if you can't finish but its a shitty feeling to give a girl $80 and getting shitty service once you get upstairs. Many girls are cool downstairs and then pull a switcheroo once you get to the room.

Being a BG isn't easy, but it sure as hell beats working in a Mexican factory or any other job most of these girls qualify for with little to no education.

Guys need to stop spoiling these girls or acting like they're doing you a huge favor.

No, you're doing them a huge favor by providing them basically the only way they can live like Mexican royalty by doing nothing other than being hot and friendly.

Personally I only street girls. I am mainly interested in BJ's and cannot see paying $50-$80 for one.

[Hargow20]

I have never had any problems on the bridge during daytime. These days if am walking home across the bridge late at night I take Uber instead. If you do cross the bridge try and walk near other people.

Walking across that bridge is a bad idea for anyone who looks non Mexican. For starters they aren't fools. They knew it was a good chance you were going to strip clubs. Which means money. The reason they know you are going up strip clubs is because no Americans do anything else in Tijuana. I've been to Tijuana clubs movies LA playas. I never see gringos. I've been to all the hot local spots in Tijuana I stand out like a sore thumb. Americans are just not both in with Tijuana other then quick day trip to revolucion. Take the bus it's 60 cents.

[Hargow20]

Personally I only street girls. I am mainly interested in BJ's and cannot see paying $50-$80 for one.

Anyone see street girls exclusively? I love their prices, but it seems much harder to connect with them for GFE like service. I like to connect with girls but it seems much harder since they are serious clock watchers and are managed.

Do I just need to buy a longer period of time or is it best to stick with bar girls for more GFE and chance of more relaxed service?