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  1. #8292
    Quote Originally Posted by Frogg  [View Original Post]
    The way you guys talk, you'd think that paying afterward is like a magic wand that makes sticky pussies smell fresh, transforms prickly personalities into golden smiles and rainbows, prevents goods from being stolen, and makes your dick grow bigger.
    What? It makes my dick grow bigger? Maybe I should try that!

  2. #8291
    Quote Originally Posted by Hargow20  [View Original Post]
    It's unbelievable that some foolish guys are willing to pay these ridiculous prices. Kathy is the only SG in the Zona that is 9 in the Zona. Her services are limited so I am pay her 500 peso's. Now I have been paying my SW Liz $40. Have also paid blonde SW Kayla $50 in the past year or so. Now this may seem hypocritical. But this only because price was for a hour. These girls gave exceptional service & were willing to do BBJ? Facials. I can see paying $35 possibly. But letting these girls jack up the price to $50 is foolish.
    Based on my research, price of sex has gone up on a global scale along with commodities. Is pussy a commodity?

  3. #8290
    Quote Originally Posted by Hargow20  [View Original Post]
    Paying after is certainly guarantee of course. But is certainly a good indicator and gives the girl more incentive to give good service.
    I've cancelled sessions with SG over them wanting to get paid first, but it's usually the last straw kind of thing. I've never gotten good vibes out of a girl, and cancelled after she asked for money upfront.

    Everyone's mileage varies, but the ones that are going to be consistently bad, are going to be consistently bad regardless of when you pay.

    My first SG only trip down there, like a third of the girls asked for money up-front, and it was overall a wash in terms of service.

    I would never pay a bar girl first, though. They're sharks on a different level, and that's the kind of thing you negotiate downstairs. Getting a bad session for $35 from a Street Girl, does not bother me as much as getting a bad session from an HK girl (especially now that it's like $135 total now with rooms costs and mesero games.) The logistics are not the same, and I'll be honest, most Street Girls try. Bar girls, IMO, rely much more on their looks than anything- unless they are totally downright freaks. Luckily I haven't come across one yet, otherwise I'd be broke.

    I keep harping on this point, but Bar Girls are simply not worth the money anymore. Room + Escort for an Hour at La Mansion is the same as 20-30 minutes in a ST room with an HK girl. Depending on how you swing it, you can get 3 Street Girls for the same price as an HK girl now- or probably 4 SG off Constitution Ave.

  4. #8289

    "especially if one is willing to go upmarket"

    Yes.

    In Meddie land and elsewhere I'm about mid-range and have mostly pleasant experiences. I do sometimes especially in the morning obtain very nice budget SG sessions in Tijuana, I just need the time off and during the week to do this.

    I tried to obtain a SG in Parque Berrio (Meddie) on the side of the church and thought I found a good one 2 years ago but no ID then was getting darker and time to head back to Poblado. Ran out of days but know is worth the time spent if go earlier in the day, just need the time.

    If time a constraint I just usually go to mid-range MPs (Energy) and am satiated. I don't mind paying more for escort or more upscale MP if know the value is there!

    If look at this from a probalistic standpoint say of a normal distribution there are problems at the very low end (5%-15%) age/crack or meth heads/fuglies and also in the top end with the 9s and 10s (5%-15%). The middle 70% to 90% is the sweet spot!

  5. #8288
    Paying after is certainly guarantee of course. But is certainly a good indicator and gives the girl more incentive to give good service.

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainSolo  [View Original Post]
    Big Magick,

    Some HK girls have way inflated sense of their worth, asking $200 for ST, $800 for TLN. The bros should reject haughty girls to teach them lessons.

    I would make lower offers to new girls to feel their attitudes. If they are not even willing to negotiate, they would almost always deliver difficult, hostile sessions in bed, regardless how much I pay them. I know quite a few regulars in HK, so I can always have 1,000-peso sessions every time. Some regulars are just so sweet, I would end up give them good propinas above the agreed rate. Whenever I see them in the club, I would also stop to ask how they are, tip and squeeze them a little like real friends. I would point out the hot, reasonable girls to noobs so they don't get robbed.

    It's very nice to have many beautiful, good-smelling, good-feeling HK girls as friends with benefits without high expenses, headache and legal liabilities.

  6. #8287
    Quote Originally Posted by Frogg  [View Original Post]
    The way you guys talk, you'd think that paying afterward is like a magic wand that makes sticky pussies smell fresh, transforms prickly personalities into golden smiles and rainbows, prevents goods from being stolen, and makes your dick grow bigger.

    So what do you do when the service is not quite right, do you not pay?

    It reminds me of the guys who claim they "don't pay" because they don't lay down with prostitutes and only chase "free" normal girls, yet they are spending a fortune wining-and-dining, enormous amounts of time on Tinder and in the gym working out, buying in-fashion clothes, taking seminars to sharpening social skills "game," pretending that all the effort doesn't constitute payment.

    Nobody wants to pay, yet it is the only way to get anything in life without being beaten or thrown behind bars or cursed somehow..
    Though it's not a perfect indicator, it's another variable that can be used towards estimating service level. Maybe her service sucks and the customer disputes the payment at the end of the session which conditioned her to ask for payment upfront to avoid this situation?

  7. #8286
    Quote Originally Posted by Frogg  [View Original Post]
    It reminds me of the guys who claim they "don't pay" because they don't lay down with prostitutes and only chase "free" normal girls, yet they are spending a fortune wining-and-dining, enormous amounts of time on Tinder and in the gym working out, buying in-fashion clothes, taking seminars to sharpening social skills "game," pretending that all the effort doesn't constitute payment.
    On another note regarding guys who claim they don't pay and say they have "game", I always wondered why they post on a monger board.

  8. #8285

    Magic Wand

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackThought  [View Original Post]
    LOL that's what happened to me with Freija. Wanted to be paid upfront $100, then immediately upselled anal, BBBJ, and CIM package for $60 upfront ($160 total) and her stinky pussy killed the mood.

    The second girl did not ask for payment upfront or charge extra for BBBJ etc. Just had great vibes from her and the session was amazing and unrushed. She's been working at HK club for 3+ years too, but did not seem like a hardened pro.
    The way you guys talk, you'd think that paying afterward is like a magic wand that makes sticky pussies smell fresh, transforms prickly personalities into golden smiles and rainbows, prevents goods from being stolen, and makes your dick grow bigger.

    So what do you do when the service is not quite right, do you not pay?

    It reminds me of the guys who claim they "don't pay" because they don't lay down with prostitutes and only chase "free" normal girls, yet they are spending a fortune wining-and-dining, enormous amounts of time on Tinder and in the gym working out, buying in-fashion clothes, taking seminars to sharpening social skills "game," pretending that all the effort doesn't constitute payment.

    Nobody wants to pay, yet it is the only way to get anything in life without being beaten or thrown behind bars or cursed somehow.

    If you believe in karma, the sooner the payment the better.

  9. #8284
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainSolo  [View Original Post]
    Unknown Girls who insist on money upfront usually have big surprises to spring on you right after taking your money, like very stinky pussies, severe child birth damages in bellies, botched shriveled boob jobs, not to mention a starfish experience and many 'tiempo" ' you come now'.

    Unknown girls who have no confidence to deliver services before payment are not worth taking.
    LOL that's what happened to me with Freija. Wanted to be paid upfront $100, then immediately upselled anal, BBBJ, and CIM package for $60 upfront ($160 total) and her stinky pussy killed the mood.

    The second girl did not ask for payment upfront or charge extra for BBBJ etc. Just had great vibes from her and the session was amazing and unrushed. She's been working at HK club for 3+ years too, but did not seem like a hardened pro.

  10. #8283

    The haughty putas

    Big Magick,

    Some HK girls have way inflated sense of their worth, asking $200 for ST, $800 for TLN. The bros should reject haughty girls to teach them lessons.

    I would make lower offers to new girls to feel their attitudes. If they are not even willing to negotiate, they would almost always deliver difficult, hostile sessions in bed, regardless how much I pay them. I know quite a few regulars in HK, so I can always have 1,000-peso sessions every time. Some regulars are just so sweet, I would end up give them good propinas above the agreed rate. Whenever I see them in the club, I would also stop to ask how they are, tip and squeeze them a little like real friends. I would point out the hot, reasonable girls to noobs so they don't get robbed.

    It's very nice to have many beautiful, good-smelling, good-feeling HK girls as friends with benefits without high expenses, headache and legal liabilities.

  11. #8282
    Quote Originally Posted by Frogg  [View Original Post]
    I regularly break your rule of "never-ever-ever pay upfront" and I have a great time, even with Anahi. Your rule is worthless. I take anything Captain Solo writes and says with a grain of salt--you will probably be steering clear of the ugly women of Medellin based on his advice.

    Since this thread is about Tijuana, I will say that TJ is a great place, it offers incredible value and convenience. The more I go to TJ, the more I like it. Unlike others who go to Colombia, I do not bad-mouth TJ. I find the fun, free-wheeling atmosphere of TJ exciting and refreshing, the people are genuinely friendly, the food is awesome, and the chicks are professional, beautiful, and do fair business.
    I take everything I read on this forum with a grain of salt. Our reports are all colored by our own background, experience, location, finances, etc. Great advices for some could be horrible advices for others. I simply report and give advice from my perspective and if it helps someone as reading this forum has helped me, great. If you think it is all load of BS, and want to ignore everything I say and do things your way, by all means. There's no need to get argumentative.

    I'm actually flying out to Colombia this weekend, so we shall see. My gut tells me despite of the good captain's complaints, I will still have a good time there, especially if one is willing to go upmarket with escorts and use online resources such as FB / SA like I do.

  12. #8281
    Quote Originally Posted by BigMagick  [View Original Post]
    A lot of bar girls tell me they are being coached to ask for 150 $ or more. Pussy is not worth that much! Maybe for all day or TLN. Hopefully business dies down for HK and prices go back to 50-60 $ a pop. As mongers we need to collectively not give in. We hold all the power. Pussy is definitely a buyers market.
    There was another post confirming that since October the arribas were way down, and that is bar girls' largest source of income, so I'm hopeful that some sanity will return once things get back to normal a bit.

  13. #8280

    Grains of Salt - in Defense of Tijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by BangBangBoy  [View Original Post]
    I'm with the captain on this one. Out of all the SG's, escorts, HK / Tropical girls I did on my last trip only two asked for payment upfront. One SG was satisfied after I placed the agreed amount out in the open to show her I have the money, the other was Anahi, who obviously decided to scam me before we event got to the room.
    I regularly break your rule of "never-ever-ever pay upfront" and I have a great time, even with Anahi. Your rule is worthless. I take anything Captain Solo writes and says with a grain of salt--you will probably be steering clear of the ugly women of Medellin based on his advice.

    Since this thread is about Tijuana, I will say that TJ is a great place, it offers incredible value and convenience. The more I go to TJ, the more I like it. Unlike others who go to Colombia, I do not bad-mouth TJ. I find the fun, free-wheeling atmosphere of TJ exciting and refreshing, the people are genuinely friendly, the food is awesome, and the chicks are professional, beautiful, and do fair business.

  14. #8279
    Quote Originally Posted by ClownDays  [View Original Post]
    People getting quoted $100-120 by average looking bar girls, or guys that simply don't know better.

    At $1,000 pesos for 30 minutes, you're better off just getting an escort for an hour.
    A lot of bar girls tell me they are being coached to ask for 150 $ or more. Pussy is not worth that much! Maybe for all day or TLN. Hopefully business dies down for HK and prices go back to 50-60 $ a pop. As mongers we need to collectively not give in. We hold all the power. Pussy is definitely a buyers market.

  15. #8278
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainSolo  [View Original Post]
    Unknown Girls who insist on money upfront usually have big surprises to spring on you right after taking your money, like very stinky pussies, severe child birth damages in bellies, botched shriveled boob jobs, not to mention a starfish experience and many 'tiempo" ' you come now'.

    Unknown girls who have no confidence to deliver services before payment are not worth taking.
    I'm with the captain on this one. Out of all the SG's, escorts, HK / Tropical girls I did on my last trip only two asked for payment upfront. One SG was satisfied after I placed the agreed amount out in the open to show her I have the money, the other was Anahi, who obviously decided to scam me before we event got to the room. All the other girls didn't even mention money when we were in the room as the negotiations were completed before hand. We focused on the act while in the room, and I just placed the agreed amount on the furniture closest to the door after the act when they were taking a shower or getting dressed. They simply say "thank you" and pick up the money on their way out. I made a point of handing them the tip if I am tipping them, so they know I am tipping, and didn't just miscount the money.

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