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  1. #4366

    Other Locations

    Quote Originally Posted by TheTallMan  [View Original Post]
    Having experienced many other Latin American countries must agree that Tijuana hookers are if not the bottom but damn close to it.

    TTM.
    I'm coming back to Tijuana in a few months for my 2nd monger vacation of my life. This winter I would like to visit a beautiful beach setting that has sexy available girls and a bar / hooker scene in the evening. I've been researching Sosua DR and this seems like an excellent spot. Any suggestions on other areas? All experienced vets please chime in. Trying to narrow down my options for this February monger / beach trip.

    Thank you.

  2. #4365
    Hmm. A bar that requires a passport to visit, serves hamburgers and hot dogs, has a selection of the very worst American beers, employs gringa waitresses, and is located in one of the worst neighborhoods in Tijuana. Sounds like a recipe for success to me!

  3. #4364
    Quote Originally Posted by Jackie888  [View Original Post]
    Watching games, having a bud, kick back and relax. I get 90 percent of this at HK. I guess I'm missing just the burgers, pool table and dart board. Personally I would spend about 10 minutes in the bars you guys described because there is a lack of naked women.
    Yes I would agree Jackie. I believe the bar Artisttyp was originally wanting was a bar where the staff left you alone. And you would be free to maybe negotiate a $10 BJ in some dark booth in the back corner. Like the revo sleaze bars of yester year. And then the conversation sort of morphed into a traditional sportsbar. As far as the place Caprese was describing I could see something like that working if Caliente maybe gutted the alley location and turned it into something nice complete with betting windows.

  4. #4363
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainSolo  [View Original Post]
    As far as I know, he's still in federal prison in Mexico City awaiting trial. He probably won't get out that mess alive.
    For all of you Captain critics out there the Captain should be commended for finally stating " As far as I know" instead of acting like everything that comes out of his mouth is fact.

    As far as Larry the San Diego chef. He was released from the Mexican prison alive but in very poor health, due to him not getting the medication he needed while in prison.

  5. #4362
    Watching games, having a bud, kick back and relax. I get 90 percent of this at HK. I guess I'm missing just the burgers, pool table and dart board. Personally I would spend about 10 minutes in the bars you guys described because there is a lack of naked women.

  6. #4361
    Personally I am very careful about the girls I choose in the Zona. Typically I only go with the US girls. There is only 1 or 2 Mexican SG's that I trust. I have found that the SG's on Constitucion to be more reliable and more willing to please. Sometimes I will go the Karina if I cannot locate a US girl. The downside is that she went on vacation for awhile.

    Quote Originally Posted by Artisttyp  [View Original Post]
    Tijuana hookers are the laziest lame assed hoes that you will ever meet. 90 % of them are full of shit or too dumb to know how to work the business. Your job is to find the 10% that break the mold. They are out there but you need to look for it really hard. You will be rewarded once you find them.

    The common denominator between DR girls and Tijuana girls is you constantly need to watch out for the hustle. That's about it.

  7. #4360

    Freelance Bar / Sports Bar

    I like to think of "Caliente" Sports Book in the Zona as being that sorta place at the moment. I usually like to start there (while getting a glimpse of the girls while entering). Then, I enjoy going in there a couple more times during the day / night to relax and watch some sports. The problem is that 1. It is not a bar. There is no bar. 2. A lack of music 3. A lack of women (however, perhaps we are trying to get away from that by going to the sports bar). 4. The interior is not too pleasant. So, yes. I do agree that the freelance sports bar might work especially if it showed something "other" than soccer as well as offering food and beverage items that appealed to an American audience (hot dogs, burgers, sandwiches, fries, etc.). Promotions on drinks and food should also be implemented (of course) for Monday-Night Football, March Madness, College Bowl Games, the World Series, NBA Finals, NHL Finals, Triple Crown Racing Events and more. Monday Night Football should also offer quarter by quarter drawings for cash, food, drinks and T-shirts from the bar. The sports bar should have a bit of sex-appeal however, such as female bartenders and attractive servers. Service staff should be American, and service standards should tower above what we see currently in TJ. Perhaps some these girls could be recruited from SDSU or UCSD. Uniforms should consist of "referee" tops and black shorts for the female servers and the female bartenders should wear jeans and low-cut tops. Maintain in mind however that this bar may also appeal to a segment of the local market (Spanish-speaking market), so hiring a couple of service-minded, attractive local TJ girls might also work. Coors, Budweiser and Miller products (American beers) should also be sold along with the local Mexican beers (Tecate, Sol, Dos Equis, etc.). The bar ideally should provide a couple pool tables and maybe some electronic darts. Still, for those of us who wager, it might be a plus for "Caliente" to place a betting kiosk or window in there. I would also expect that prices would be a bit higher at this sports bar than what is around the area in terms of food etc. Beers and spirits should have roughly a 30% to 40% mark-up. As for decor, all of the televisions (25% big screens, and 8 to 10 60" TV's) are strategically aligned with every seat in the bar. A mix of 30% booths, 30% tables (4-tops) and 40% chairs at the bar is ideal. Satellite must be utilized along with a formidable A/V system. As a final plus, the bar should offer a van that gives visitors free rides to the Ligna (Ligna only - not to hotels) if needed. The van then serves as a mobile billboard as well. Two Security Officers / Agents would also be utilzed (one at the main entrance to screen patrons entering) as well as to maintain a clean and safe entrance. The other individual would simply act as a "bouncer" in the bar, thus he would be in casual clothes seated at one of the bar stools. Video surveillance would include four five shots including bar, the entrance, the main seating area and the two POS registers. Traditional advertising (Print, Direct Mail, TV Commercials, Newspapers, etc.) will work, but mobile-marketing will serve as quite effective. Texting promotions and SMS marketing will assist in attracting customers who cross the border. 2 for 1 coupons should be included in these text offers. A relationship with Cascadas should also be developed offering room discounts (50%) with a minimum order of $50 in food and drinks. Then, a "kickback" from the sports bar to Cascadas would occur on a monthly basis for their realized revenue loss. The construction of a creative web presence to connect with local customers as well as American tourists is paramount. A presence on Social Media is also needed including Facebook, Pinterest, and perhaps Twitter. Try not to be limit TV coverage to only one sport. TV's should used ESPN & ESPN2 as base lines (early morning and mid-day as well as late night) and be placed on Basketball, Football, Soccer, Baseball, Golf, Olympic events, Boxing, UFC, and more during prime times.The bar would also offer free storage for people with luggage etc. should they decide to leave town after the bar. As for a payment system? Dollars are encouraged, but pesos are accepted along with debit cards. The peso rate, however, will be below standard as to encourage payment in dollars. Thus, if the standard bar peso rate is 17.8, the sports bar will use a rate at 10% less resulting in a rate of 16 pesos or so. As for a name? Perhaps "Johnny Z's Sports Bar; "The Upper Deck Sports Bar", or "The Grand Slam Sports Bar". Food for thought perhaps. Not sure if it will ever happen, so "Caliente" sorta serves that need for now, but that really is not saying much.

    Quote Originally Posted by BaxterSlade  [View Original Post]
    Yea you guys could be on to something. We should open a bar down there. After all we know what Americans want. WHAT COULD GO WRONG?

    Actually an American tried this and ended up spending a couple years in a Mexican Prison losing everything including his health.

    But I would love to find that bar you guys are describing.
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  8. #4359
    Yep. Cannot think of another place on earth where you can have so much fun in the bars or in the street 24/7 for less money. Hehe.

    If you know Guadalupe, you must have been around Tijuana for decades. She's still working day time in front of the parking lot and police office.

    She has stiff competition recently. Try the new DF spinners in front hotel Ibixa. They are so pretty, looking like movie stars.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steven  [View Original Post]
    Where else you can get a free drink and lapdance, upon arriving? Do some other major groping in the foam, and just standing around, with young cute hotties? For just a handful of one dollar bills. Then, good and ready, hit the street, to find the diamond in the rough. Interview all around the area until I find the one. Maybe she is a trusty repeat. Like the wonderful Valentina, solid Am, by the clam stand towards the Chicago Club side, or pretty new Mari Chuy, by the west end of the alley by the pay phone, or Renata, even mature Guadalupe. Or even more happily, somebody new to me, which happens, even though my tastes are off-putting to many of the girls. There are many hotties who do accept my fantasy. Like some of the new spinners by the Ibiza. Better yet is breaking-in somebody new to the Zona. Oh, did I say that the sessions usually end up $25, with room and incentive / tip, and about a half hour. The price is 300 pesos naked, and I make sure I explain exactly what my wishes are, and if they accept the deal, I let them know that I pay them afterward, and for exceptional service in pleasing me, they will get a generous propina, which we both almost always get, making it 460 total, counting the room. Almost enough change from a 500 peso bill for a drink back at Hong Kong where I go to recover for my next nut, chill a bit, get in a few more one dollar gropes, rinse and repeat. Some of you might put down Tijuana and its scene, but it works for me.

  9. #4358
    Larry, the San Diego BBQ chef, started Nikki's near La Zona. I came by a few times. He could not find good-looking girls to work in his bar / restaurant / hotel. The women were so old and ugly. The food was not fresh, prices were high. They could not pay me to fuck those fugly women. I never came back.

    Larry brought in women from Colombia to work the bar and the hotel, which is illegal in Mexico. The women got pissed off and ratted on him. He and his lieutenants were arrested on a number of charges, including prostitution and [CodeWord908]. As far as I know, he's still in federal prison in Mexico City awaiting trial. He probably won't get out that mess alive.

    There are a lot of risks and unknowns doing business in Mexico. A freelance bar would be very nice but who can recruit good-looking young girls like Hong Kong? Other bars in La Zona, Chicago, see&G, New York, Golden Palace, Valentina, Play boy, cannot recruit good-looking girls like Hong Kong.

    So unless you know how Hong Kong recruits, and can do better, forget about it!

    Quote Originally Posted by BaxterSlade  [View Original Post]
    Yea you guys could be on to something. We should open a bar down there. After all we know what Americans want. WHAT COULD GO WRONG?

    Actually an American tried this and ended up spending a couple years in a Mexican Prison losing everything including his health.

    But I would love to find that bar you guys are describing.

  10. #4357
    Quote Originally Posted by Ezinho  [View Original Post]

    A freelance bar would be ideal but just a regular, laid back bar to hang out in between sessions would be nice. Even a sports bar or something like that would be OK. Why can't someone make this happen?


    Yea you guys could be on to something. We should open a bar down there. After all we know what Americans want. WHAT COULD GO WRONG?

    Actually an American tried this and ended up spending a couple years in a Mexican Prison losing everything including his health.

    But I would love to find that bar you guys are describing.

  11. #4356
    Quote Originally Posted by Artisttyp  [View Original Post]
    What Tijuana needs is a freelance bar that doesn't have bar staff interfering in negotiations.
    This times a thousand. I'm in Tijuana right now and the waiters are worse than ever! The Hong Kong bar staff are the biggest a holes in the world and completely ruin the fun in the club. It gives me anxiety just hanging out in Hong Kong-I need a script for Zoloft after today!

    A freelance bar would be ideal but just a regular, laid back bar to hang out in between sessions would be nice. Even a sports bar or something like that would be OK. Why can't someone make this happen?

    But yeah, this has to be the only major mongering locale in the world without a freelance bar.

    I'll post a full report in the next couple of days, but to make this post relevant to the thread, I went up with a street girl in front of Valentina today that I can recommend, forgot her name but she's from Veracruz, really good session for a 200 peso sg. I'll get her name and more info tomorrow.

  12. #4355

    Tijuana is OK

    Where else you can get a free drink and lapdance, upon arriving? Do some other major groping in the foam, and just standing around, with young cute hotties? For just a handful of one dollar bills. Then, good and ready, hit the street, to find the diamond in the rough. Interview all around the area until I find the one. Maybe she is a trusty repeat. Like the wonderful Valentina, solid Amí, by the clam stand towards the Chicago Club side, or pretty new Mari Chuy, by the west end of the alley by the pay phone, or Renata, even mature Guadalupe. Or even more happily, somebody new to me, which happens, even though my tastes are off-putting to many of the girls. There are many hotties who do accept my fantasy. Like some of the new spinners by the Ibiza. Better yet is breaking-in somebody new to the Zona. Oh, did I say that the sessions usually end up $25, with room and incentive / tip, and about a half hour. The price is 300 pesos naked, and I make sure I explain exactly what my wishes are, and if they accept the deal, I let them know that I pay them afterward, and for exceptional service in pleasing me, they will get a generous propina, which we both almost always get, making it 460 total, counting the room. Almost enough change from a 500 peso bill for a drink back at Hong Kong where I go to recover for my next nut, chill a bit, get in a few more one dollar gropes, rinse and repeat. Some of you might put down Tijuana and its scene, but it works for me.

  13. #4354
    Quote Originally Posted by Artisttyp  [View Original Post]
    What Tijuana needs is a freelance bar that doesn't have bar staff interfering in negotiations. Lucky for me I am into all forms of PFP not just the Bg's. I have been getting greats deals since moving to ZN around $40 per hour or even a little longer in the privacy of my apartment. Some of them are SG's who usually provide lame 15 minute service.

    I am not complaining at all I just wanted to specify that compared to other Latin America countries Tijuana hookers are at the bottom of the barrel.
    Having experienced many other Latin American countries must agree that Tijuana hookers are if not the bottom but damn close to it.

    TTM.

  14. #4353

    Agree

    I do agree with you that some / most do come across as airheads either stuck up or just in the wrong business but the 10% you speak of is what I'm looking for, I don't give myself room to engage in any negative energized sexual encounter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Artisttyp  [View Original Post]
    Tijuana hookers are the laziest lame assed hoes that you will ever meet. 90 % of them are full of shit or too dumb to know how to work the business. Your job is to find the 10% that break the mold. They are out there but you need to look for it really hard. You will be rewarded once you find them.

    The common denominator between DR girls and Tijuana girls is you constantly need to watch out for the hustle. That's about it.

  15. #4352

    The ugly and obese escorts

    Most of the escorts don't look too good, older and heavier than I like. I went to a party where an agency introduced its girls. The women were so obese and ugly, one 7-month pregnant, WTF?

    They cannot even pay me enough to spend 5 minutes with those old, obese ugly women, left alone sleeping all night with them! So I gave up on escorts.

    You can find many HK girls who would do all night date after their shifts, for about $100 a day, $200 for 2 solid weekend days. Some girls even date old gringos for free, going out to dinner, movies, to the beach on their days off, instead of cooping up in hotel Cascada's tiny room.

    Quote Originally Posted by OnceSailor  [View Original Post]
    I guess if you are looking for all night you might want to try the escort route. $500 or less for 8 hours. I found a few that went for $400.9 PM - 5 AM or 10 PM - 6 AM the usual times.

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