Streetwalker Reports

[Jackie888]

First, I don't disagree. Staying at home seems like the best response. What I do take issue with is the hysteria. Reputable sources are all over the board. Some claiming we will have millions of deaths in the US. We are experiencing a mortality rate of 1. 5%. And without a doubt, that number is inflated. That number is based on the known infection rate. We all agree that the number of infections is higher due to a low testing rate. Accounting for that, the mortality rate is more likely 0. 4%, not much higher than the flu.

For perspective, this virus, that has shut down the world's economy, is something that can be killed by a lysol wipe.

I'll reiterate, I'm no expert on infectious diseases. But I do think that there are some in our country that can't help but throw gasoline on the fire and work us all up. If the mortality rate is truly around 0. 4%, are we overreacting? I would say 100% yes. That's just my opinion and you are welcome to yours.

But I stand by my premise. This study is fake news. It's not a study at all. It's a prediction based on modeling. Like any news story, we'd all be better off understanding the whole story, not just the headline.

Again, ask yourself the quality of Tijuana's medical care. Is it better or worst than Italy? And again the issue is doing.

Your part to in the fight against Cov19 to prevent killing off people, not what your personal risk level is.

"In China, the mortality rate for CV-19 has been 4%. In Italy, it's about 10%. In Iran, it's about 7.6%. In Germany, it's less than 1% and in the USA, where the outbreak is just getting underway, it's about 1.5%."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnb...pandemics.html

[BodyAnybody]

First, I don't disagree. Staying at home seems like the best response. What I do take issue with is the hysteria. Reputable sources are all over the board. Some claiming we will have millions of deaths in the US. We are experiencing a mortality rate of 1. 5%. And without a doubt, that number is inflated. That number is based on the known infection rate. We all agree that the number of infections is higher due to a low testing rate. Accounting for that, the mortality rate is more likely 0. 4%, not much higher than the flu.

For perspective, this virus, that has shut down the world's economy, is something that can be killed by a lysol wipe.

I'll reiterate, I'm no expert on infectious diseases. But I do think that there are some in our country that can't help but throw gasoline on the fire and work us all up. If the mortality rate is truly around 0. 4%, are we overreacting? I would say 100% yes. That's just my opinion and you are welcome to yours.

But I stand by my premise. This study is fake news. It's not a study at all. It's a prediction based on modeling. Like any news story, we'd all be better off understanding the whole story, not just the headline.

I agree 100% it is unfortunate that ratings driven news organizations choose to stoke panic, and that so many people seem so eager to take part in that panic.

[Hargow20]

Personally I am playing things by ear and see how things develop. The risk vs reward factor is too great. There is not a lot SG's / SW's around and there is Corona Virus risk as well. One problem is that Mexico's president is not taking the Coronavirus threat seriously. So there is not a lot of testing and the health care system is in bad shape as well. Hopefully the Coronavirus will not run rampant in Mexico.

(https://www.vox.com/2020/3/26/211938...or-health-care).

If we ALL don't quarantine RIGHT F**KING NOW this place is going to turn into Spain and Italy. Over 600 people died in Spain in the last 24 hours! There's a nursing home in New Jersey where all 84 residents are presumed to be infected. I wouldn't be surprised if every one of those 84 is dead within 2 weeks. People are dropping off like flies, and so far we're talking about developed "first world" countries. It hasn't even started taking hold in poor third world countries yet.

Spain has arrested over 1000 people over the last week for not staying home. This sheet is real. It's not "fake news". Imagine if things really start getting bad in places like Texas or Sinaloa where everybody and their grandma is armed to the teeth. They'll start shooting each other over hospital beds and medical equipment.

Also consider US / Canada / Europe have reserves to provide welfare safety net so people don't starve and the hospital system doesn't collapse. Do you think Mexico has a trillion dollars laying around that they can support everybody for six months if unemployment skyrockets? If you think crime is bad now. All I can say is god have mercy.

[LuvMexicanas]

First, I don't disagree. Staying at home seems like the best response. What I do take issue with is the hysteria. Reputable sources are all over the board. Some claiming we will have millions of deaths in the US. We are experiencing a mortality rate of 1. 5%. And without a doubt, that number is inflated. That number is based on the known infection rate. We all agree that the number of infections is higher due to a low testing rate. Accounting for that, the mortality rate is more likely 0. 4%, not much higher than the flu.

For perspective, this virus, that has shut down the world's economy, is something that can be killed by a lysol wipe.

I'll reiterate, I'm no expert on infectious diseases. But I do think that there are some in our country that can't help but throw gasoline on the fire and work us all up. If the mortality rate is truly around 0. 4%, are we overreacting? I would say 100% yes. That's just my opinion and you are welcome to yours.

But I stand by my premise. This study is fake news. It's not a study at all. It's a prediction based on modeling. Like any news story, we'd all be better off understanding the whole story, not just the headline.

Thank you for bringing reason into the drama.

[Dcrist0527]

If we ALL don't quarantine RIGHT F**KING NOW this place is going to turn into Spain and Italy. Over 600 people died in Spain in the last 24 hours! There's a nursing home in New Jersey where all 84 residents are presumed to be infected. I wouldn't be surprised if every one of those 84 is dead within 2 weeks. People are dropping off like flies, and so far we're talking about developed "first world" countries. It hasn't even started taking hold in poor third world countries yet.

Spain has arrested over 1000 people over the last week for not staying home. This sheet is real. It's not "fake news". Imagine if things really start getting bad in places like Texas or Sinaloa where everybody and their grandma is armed to the teeth. They'll start shooting each other over hospital beds and medical equipment.

Also consider US / Canada / Europe have reserves to provide welfare safety net so people don't starve and the hospital system doesn't collapse. Do you think Mexico has a trillion dollars laying around that they can support everybody for six months if unemployment skyrockets? If you think crime is bad now. All I can say is god have mercy.

First, I don't disagree. Staying at home seems like the best response. What I do take issue with is the hysteria. Reputable sources are all over the board. Some claiming we will have millions of deaths in the US. We are experiencing a mortality rate of 1. 5%. And without a doubt, that number is inflated. That number is based on the known infection rate. We all agree that the number of infections is higher due to a low testing rate. Accounting for that, the mortality rate is more likely 0. 4%, not much higher than the flu.

For perspective, this virus, that has shut down the world's economy, is something that can be killed by a lysol wipe.

I'll reiterate, I'm no expert on infectious diseases. But I do think that there are some in our country that can't help but throw gasoline on the fire and work us all up. If the mortality rate is truly around 0. 4%, are we overreacting? I would say 100% yes. That's just my opinion and you are welcome to yours.

But I stand by my premise. This study is fake news. It's not a study at all. It's a prediction based on modeling. Like any news story, we'd all be better off understanding the whole story, not just the headline.

[Jinxx]

While I agree with the premise, this "study" is so flawed. First, we know SO little about this virus. Second, the study claims to have real numbers on "silent" carriers. So they have the omniscience to know who has it, even though they aren't diagnosed? Even better, they know who they passed it on to? But then it goes on to explain, this isn't a study. It's a model. Which is to say it's not worth the paper it is printed on. This is far from fact. If you look hard enough, you'll find a model for just about any conclusion.

I say this to all. We don't do anyone any favors by spouting our opinions. I doubt many of us are contagion or viral experts. And even if we were, we would appreciate how little we know about this virus. There is little in this world less enthralling than guys coming on this board and judging others and claiming to be all-knowing when we know virtually nothing.

We all handle stress differently. We all have different risk levels we are comfortable with. Just as I don't criticize those that seek BBFS, I think we should also withhold criticizing others decisions about quarantining.

You might think: "But this is different. This could infect me. " Well, we all swim in the same pool. If the guy before me goes BBFS, then if I'm just BBBJ, that still could affect me. So it's not all that different.

I'm off my soapbox now. If there is some valuable facts to share, I think knowledge is a good thing. But slamming each other and feeding hysteria does not serve any good purpose.

If we ALL don't quarantine RIGHT F**KING NOW this place is going to turn into Spain and Italy. Over 600 people died in Spain in the last 24 hours! There's a nursing home in New Jersey where all 84 residents are presumed to be infected. I wouldn't be surprised if every one of those 84 is dead within 2 weeks. People are dropping off like flies, and so far we're talking about developed "first world" countries. It hasn't even started taking hold in poor third world countries yet.

Spain has arrested over 1000 people over the last week for not staying home. This sheet is real. It's not "fake news". Imagine if things really start getting bad in places like Texas or Sinaloa where everybody and their grandma is armed to the teeth. They'll start shooting each other over hospital beds and medical equipment.

Also consider US / Canada / Europe have reserves to provide welfare safety net so people don't starve and the hospital system doesn't collapse. Do you think Mexico has a trillion dollars laying around that they can support everybody for six months if unemployment skyrockets? If you think crime is bad now. All I can say is god have mercy.

[Hargow20]

My friend that lives in Tijuana was telling me the same thing and that is not worth going to Tijuana now. It is a bit hard to tell since Tuesday's are a bit slow. I will probably wait till the shutdown ends in Tijuana. Will report when I get a update on the street girls in the Zona.

As of last night, apparently yes. A buddy showed me photos.

Not good.

[SenorTJ]

Anyone know if there are still street girls out?

As of last night, apparently yes. A buddy showed me photos.

Not good.

[Dcrist0527]

Okay master of facts. LOL.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.wbu...matic-carriers

While I agree with the premise, this "study" is so flawed. First, we know SO little about this virus. Second, the study claims to have real numbers on "silent" carriers. So they have the omniscience to know who has it, even though they aren't diagnosed? Even better, they know who they passed it on to? But then it goes on to explain, this isn't a study. It's a model. Which is to say it's not worth the paper it is printed on. This is far from fact. If you look hard enough, you'll find a model for just about any conclusion.

I say this to all. We don't do anyone any favors by spouting our opinions. I doubt many of us are contagion or viral experts. And even if we were, we would appreciate how little we know about this virus. There is little in this world less enthralling than guys coming on this board and judging others and claiming to be all-knowing when we know virtually nothing.

We all handle stress differently. We all have different risk levels we are comfortable with. Just as I don't criticize those that seek BBFS, I think we should also withhold criticizing others decisions about quarantining.

You might think: "But this is different. This could infect me. " Well, we all swim in the same pool. If the guy before me goes BBFS, then if I'm just BBBJ, that still could affect me. So it's not all that different.

I'm off my soapbox now. If there is some valuable facts to share, I think knowledge is a good thing. But slamming each other and feeding hysteria does not serve any good purpose.

[Duncan216]

Anyone know if there are still street girls out?

[KC Questor]

If you had any knowledge of this pandemic, you would know that women fight the virus much better than men do (1/3 the mortality) and with the exception of one or two, all the street girls are well below the age of 65.

I don't understand your point. You think the street girls only encounter other girls? No, they will pass anything they have along to every man they see, and they will pass it along to the people THEY meet. Why do you think we are only worried about the health of the girls? They would just be a link in the chain.

[ScatManDoo]

While women have 1/3 the mortality of men, the numbers came from China, Italy, the USA, Spain where the medical infrastructure is vastly larger and more modern than Tijuana. Tijuana's chicas are not going to have access to state of the art medicine and equipment, if at all once the pandemic hits Tijuana. And the latest numbers from the USA tells us that unlike China, the majority of American patients are under 65. Try to apply your facts to Mexico.

And from these facts, you are pounding on one (asymptomatic) poster that he will destroy all the street girls?

You ever wonder if you're ever a silent carrier of the corona virus? And your infection may wipe out all of the chicas?

[WombatEd2]

If you had any knowledge of this pandemic, you would know that women fight the virus much better than men do (1/3 the mortality) and with the exception of one or two, all the street girls are well below the age of 65.

But I bet it makes your heart all warm inside to not let the facts get in the way of you shaming Hargow.

So it's OK to kill off women so long as we kill off three times as many men? I hope your mother is under 65!

[Jackie888]

If you had any knowledge of this pandemic, you would know that women fight the virus much better than men do (1/3 the mortality) and with the exception of one or two, all the street girls are well below the age of 65.

But I bet it makes your heart all warm inside to not let the facts get in the way of you shaming Hargow.

While women have 1/3 the mortality of men, the numbers came from China, Italy, the USA, Spain where the medical infrastructure is vastly larger and more modern than Tijuana. Tijuana's chicas are not going to have access to state of the art medicine and equipment, if at all once the pandemic hits Tijuana. And the latest numbers from the USA tells us that unlike China, the majority of American patients are under 65. Try to apply your facts to Mexico.

[Hargow20]

You can cross the border if you have a medical appt. Also heard the Mexican customs is letting people into Mexico. I was considering going a bit early and tell the customs agent that I have dental appt. A source that lives there told me there is not a lot street girls around now. So I am waiting until I hear more info.

It maybe difficult to cross the border now and California is on lockdown Shelter in place order.