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  1. #1223

    Streetwalkers (SW)

    People may think it expensive for a session with a SW in Tijuana, and I am sure compared to some places in the universe it may be. Lets just say anytime you can walk the Zona Norte and choose a lady out of hundreds of women for less than $30.00 which includes the room for a session is a great deal. If you want to talk about budgets I would say go where you feel you get the best deal, my savings in air fare alone will pay for a whole lot of sessions in TJ. When I go to TJ with $1000.00 I live like a rock star for a an entire weekend, here in the USA that is four five or maybe six sessions and I could have that many in a day in TJ if I choose to. TJ is a special place and between Streetwalkers (SW), Chicago Club (CC), Adelitas Bar (AB), and Hong Kong Bar (Hk), you can find just about any kind of fabulous woman your heart could possibly desire for a very reasonable price. Here in the USA to even think of a woman spending the night is out of reach financially for most people, in TJ it is possible.


    Quote Originally Posted by Admin
    Greetings Sound7,

    With all due respect, you've made your point several times over.

    It's time to move on to other subjects.

    Thanks,

    Jackson

  2. #1222
    Greetings Sound7,

    With all due respect, you've made your point several times over.

    It's time to move on to other subjects.

    Thanks,

    Jackson

  3. #1221

    Tijuana Sex Hobby Combination Effects

    Inputs from members are critical to any serious sex hobby including price understanding in various cities and county.

    Safety, quality and another major drivers are more at stake than bottom line cost. It is fair to be critical and constructive about "Charts" but at some point the discussion of the the members need to address the "combination effects."



    Current charts do not address the "combination effects" to make the Tijuana hobby interesting. Stale to say the least

    What are the elements that make the Tijuana hobby interesting ? Combination effects for sure.

    The flight crew looks of CC chicas. Spanish lessons with sex combination at inflated price. I am sure this all varies for each of us and will not be captured in an American JD Power survey .

    Even JD Powers would not be able to address it. Giving one (1) dollar to complete a 6 page survey on new car.

    It is time to address the Tijuana combination sex effects to best our collective ability. If one can.

    Thanks in advance.

    Be Happy, Be Safe

    S7

    Tijuana Combination Effects:
    Varieties of sex workers in TJ, the spice of life !

    Members of this forum for sure.



    PP09 Analysis Response:
    TJ:

    Significant saving using pesos with street girls. 200 pesos for 20 minutes on a repeat. Request 20 minute massage for $150 and another session and Promo discount of 50 peosos. All from the same chica. Grand Total of 500 pesos for one hour. Or Ask for one hour session for 500 pesos. Some TJ chicas are sure they came one pop in ten minutes at most. Happy with the 500 pesos proposal.

    At Luxor it is $250 an hour. Data not used - pure luxury

    Current data:

    Tijuana Mexican Peso 0.07322 13.657 500 47.6

    PP09 Proposal to use $100 for TJ in the next update which is more than twice the current rate of 500 pesos.

    RU:
    Sex worker price based on the old "Soviet Model." for foreign individual. Highly inflated.

    BR:

    Used data and recommendation from Sr Members in BR forum from safety concern based on establishment activities. SW data was not considered for that very reason. BR Real exchange rate and safety concerns. $168 is based on average of Rio and SP. I received lower rates from other members too but the safety issues were open issues.

    Data:
    BR Brazilian Real 0.56275 1.777 300 $168.8 Rio 500 SP 300





    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Pan 2009
    In Tijuana, the street chicas are $25 for 15 minutes and the club chicas are $60 for 30 minutes. So the average in Tijuana is about $100 per hour, not $41.

    In Brazil, even with recent appreciation in the real, you could still call the escort services like Karla Models, CIA etc. For decent girls for about $50 for 2 hours, not $169. I don't know where he got that figure.
    editor:S7
    .

  4. #1220

    Global Sex Worker Index - New Chart ?

    The county code and local currency conversion to USD are listed below

    Typical 60 Minutes Global Sex - 2009

    Location....Local Money/USD
    AR....................150/$42.86
    BR...................300/$169.49
    CZ....................150/$83.33
    CP....................300/$44.12
    CO.................60000/$30.00
    CR...................1000/$60.00
    DO...................2000/$57.14
    DE....................135/$198.45
    TJ......................500/$41.67
    ID.................450000/$50.00
    MY....................150/$45.45
    PE.....................150/$51.72
    PH....................1500/$45.45
    TH....................2200/$44.44
    RU...................5000/$166.67
    UAE...................350/$100.00


    Asia
    Changping (CP) China
    Indonesia (ID)
    Malaysia (MY)
    Philippines (PH)
    Thailand (TH)

    Mexico
    Tijuana (TJ)

    The Caribbean
    Dominican Republic (DO)

    Central America
    Costa Rica (CR)

    South America
    Argentina (AR)
    Brazil (BR)
    Colombia (CO)
    Peru (PE)

    Europe
    Czech (CZ)
    Republic Germany FKK Clubs (DE)
    Russia (RU)

    The Middle East
    United Arab Emirates (UAE)
    Last edited by Admin; 11-09-09 at 18:00.

  5. #1219

    early friday

    I went to TJ early today. I was in the alley by 11am. Lucy was there talking to her boyfriend. One interesting thing about getting to TJ around 10:30 is that you get to see the girls when they first come out. Usually, the boyfriend is with them giving his daily "orders."

    Surprisingly she was not all that tight. I think the boyfriend got him some this morning. She waved at me in front of him and walked by, then turned around and he was gone!

    In the room she gave a slow passionate BJ. Then during missionary sex she hugged my neck really hard and pulled me close to her. To be honest, I thought it was a setup. You know, the boyfriendd robs you while she hugs you tight. But no, she was just being passionate.

    I think she gets off on banging another guy right after talking with her boyfriend. Some women like being hookers!

    In fact, I came fairly quickly and she seemed disappointed. She did not let me go until I began to push up. Often she nudges you off and starts getting dressed as soon as you finish.


    200 pesos (17 US dollars), 30 pesos (3dollars) for the room.
    TJ

  6. #1218
    If you made that chart then your chart making skills are horrible. Could you remove the background picture so that the text doesn't blend in and become unreadable? Or at least change the color of the text. I thought you where good at doing that.

  7. #1217

    FAQ - 150 pesos for SW = 20 tip /500 pesos Club SW (FMV)

    Interpretation of the Sex Worker Worldwide - TJ Indexed

    Tijuana Today - Oct 2009
    http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...hmentid=123759
    http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...hmentid=123733



    SUMMARY

    2009 Big Mac Economic Model/Sex Worker Index projects TJ Sex Worker are overpriced in the local market and global market place by 25 percent.

    Current Fair Market Value (FMV):
    150 pesos for SW for street with a 20 peso tip.
    500 pesos for Club SW

    TJ world cost ranking for sex worker should be lower based on economic models, the above value of 150/500 are the local FMV for Tijuana.

    Chart Tijuana Sex Worker - Normalization
    http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...hmentid=123805


    Chart Tijuana
    http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...hmentid=123803

    FAQ Request by PP09

    1) Request for reference to the origin of this chart.

    Read the various current ISG threads postings including the "Best Place for LTR & STR" and extract the sex worker rates or contact a senior member for help for each country or city.

    Raw data posted in ISG Threads:
    Opinions & Editorials
    Best Countries for LTR
    Best Countries for STR
    Pic: Hong Kong web site.

    2) What does it tell us about Tijuana - Zona Norta

    The graph indicates the sex worker rate in sixteen locations indexed using 3 Tijuana SW as a LTR experience. Sex workers in Germany, Russia, CZ, AE and Brazil are more expensive than Tijuana SW. Germany (DE) FKK sex worker being the most expensive and Tijuana Luxor is at the same rate and not in the Zona Norta for a LTR experience.

    Ten other locations in the world provide sex worker at lower cost than current Tijuana sex workers.The models indicates TJ sex workers are overpriced by 25 percent in the local market. SW at 150 pesos and Club chica at 500 pesos is the local fair market rate. Negotiation, language and cultural skills play a significant part in price setting. Most clients are at major disadvantage due to limited language skills. Common word like "suckie, fuckie or I am good " are not adeguate language skill for negotiations.

    The chart do not address the personal experience or quality but some ISG thread posting do in detail by various ISG members.

    3) Other parameters are setting a higher market price in TJ including seeking romance with SW is beyond the scope of this study. Pressure sales marketing in the clubs like HK, AB & CC drive the rates. Adequate sex worker training to demand higher rates from clients. Clients ill informed and trained in pressure negotiation. Fear of lossing the hotie or shame to counter offer. Many other factors in play for the higher rates.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails BIGMAC09.JPG‎  

  8. #1216

    Great TR

    Quote Originally Posted by Derekj6926
    $5 got a cab ride, gave him a $10 bill and said keep the change my friend, She said $60 so we started, $12 for the room, and $1 for the clean up man., $4, gave each of the three gentlemen a $2 tip a said $20 for twenty minutes, I said lets go babe so we went upstairs, I gave the man $5 for the room and we began our session. A $20 tip and $1 for the clean up man $10 bill for the $5 cab ride and said keep the change my friend and walked back across the border into reality thinking about what had just happened. For $103 if my math is right I just had just gotten some great excercise from the walk and some great sexercise as well, enjoyed two ladies of my choice and a delicious meal not counting the generous tips I chose to give, compare that to the $200
    Great TR! Closer to $149 USD and definitely better package than spending money on US hookers.

  9. #1215

    Derek's day trip to TJ

    Went to Tijuana this afternoon for a day trip and enjoyed myself immensely. Walked across the border and for $5 got a cab ride, gave him a $10 bill and said keep the change my friend, by the way the driver told me that Senor Frogs has closed. Arrived in Tijuana around noon time and went for a walk before entering HK or AB because I just knew some young sexy Chica would blow me away minutes after entering and wanted to enjoy Zona Norte a bit before partaking. Walked up to Amnesia and it was totally quiet, so I strolled back down through Zona Norte and observed all the sweet Chicas and realized I had arrived a bit early because the ladies were sparce but enough were there and the ones there were getting their first customers of the day. I walked through HK and survived without any Chica getting me upstairs returned back out into the sunshine and strolled over to AB and got a Corona, walked around the bar and there were some real cuties. I was three quarters of the way around the bar when Daniella approached me with her well endowed body and I knew it was going to happen when she started to seduce me. She said $60 so we started upstairs and I suddenly realized she was not as beautiful in the daylight. But she did me up good I must admit, $12 for the room, and $1 for the clean up man. Walked back out into the nice sun shiny day and across the street to my regular restaurant starved from not eating because I had waited so I could eat in the Zona. I ordered two Tacos, the gentleman brought me tortilla chips and salsa and I started nourishing myself as Daniella had given me a real rockin time, the Tacos were delicious with the shrimp, $4, gave each of the three gentlemen a $2 tip and walked back out into the sunshine and circled through all the streets again, saw some of the Chicas I had enjoyed in the past and some I wanted to enjoy, I looked up and there was Estrella just coming up the street to work at her regular place, I had enjoyed her a few times in the past. The sun was shining on her beautiful shiny wet black hair fresh out of the shower, she was looking so fabulous I just knew I was going to have to enjoy her again. She recognized me and we chatted for a few minutes, I asked her what she would charge me today, she said $20 for twenty minutes, I said lets go babe so we went upstairs, I gave the man $5 for the room and we began our session. She was fresh and I was obviously her first customer of the day, she did me up wonderfully, the best she has ever done for me so I left her a $20 tip and $1 for the clean up man and then realized Country John was so right about these women obviously a man of great experience. When I left Estrella I decided that was enough for one day with my pistol polished in fine fashion so I pointed at a cab driver, he stopped picked me up and we headed for the border gave him a $10 bill for the $5 cab ride and said keep the change my friend and walked back across the border into reality thinking about what had just happened. For $103 if my math is right I just had just gotten some great excercise from the walk and some great sexercise as well, enjoyed two ladies of my choice and a delicious meal not counting the generous tips I chose to give, compare that to the $200 I spent the night before in San Diego on a hooker in my room who was not worth 200 cents. The tipping is a matter of choice but let me say it pays huge dividends if you plan to keep returning because these people will remember your kindness and generosity and reward you showering you with warmth when you return. The same is true for the ladies you enjoy if you are generous, gentle, and kind with them they get more comfortable with you each time you return and will want to be with you as Estrella expressed so well to me, Derek James.

  10. #1214

    Street Girls (SG) vs Club Ladies

    I appreciate your thoughts Country John and you have a valid point. You are exactly right with a SG's you are going into a 0 Star motel for a fast check out. Many of us who go there are people who cannot hang out there for extended periods of time because of our career's etc., so we are looking for a grand experience with whomever we are with not a quick check out, we are trying to get the best experience possible. If I had time to hang out in Tijuana for extended period's of time and just wanted a quicky some day the street girls are perfect and it is personal preference, some of the SG's are sweet as sweet can be. In no way am I complaining about Tijuana, I love the place, there is no place quite like it that I have been to which includes Amsterdam and numerous other places in the world. If anyone loves beautiful ladies and want access to them at a reasonable price, Tijuana is your place of choice, especially if you like petite brown skinned chicas.

  11. #1213

    Like the drive-up window

    Guys, listen up: Think of the street girls (posters) as a drive-up window type service where, for little money, you get quick service and then get the hell out of there.

    Burger King drive-thru doesn't have a bathroom either.

    Don't expect 5 star service at a no star hotel. They are deigned for one thing and one thing only: getting off and getting out. If you want better accomodations, check into a decent hotel and bring a girl in.

    Stop being upset and dismayed at the quality, type and style of the hotels in the alley.

    Repeats with the same girl evolve into better service as time goes by and they get to know you. Be patient. Be nice. Have fun!

    Country John

  12. #1212
    Quote Originally Posted by Derekj6926
    I must say I have tried numerous street ladies, the only one I remember the name of is Lupita, the lady with the umbrella. The street ladies almost without exception were not as good a time especially Lupita, very disappointed in her. Whenever I am in the Hong Kong Club (HK) or Adelitas Bar (AB) the experience is so much better. Any opinion of HK or AB about one being better than the other, it really is personal preference and they are right next door to each other so you can decide for yourself, AB is more like Playboy and HK is more like Hustler. In my opinion. In HK and AB you get a chance to talk with the lady of your choice getting an understanding of what your desires are with her with the ambiance of the club before you ever decide to take her to a room for her services, on the steet that is difficult to do. A further note is that I find these ladies very very clean, much cleaner than the average hooker in the USA that costs a couple of hundred dollars a pop. Tijuana is a great place and in my opinion as safe as most large cities in the USA. Get a cab at the border and go directly to Adelitas Bar, stay on the well lighted streets and out of alleys, use your God given instincts and there is almost no chance you will have any problems. If you are drunk, drugged up, or rude plan on problems anywhere you go in the world including Tijuana. Be polite saying gracias no when you don't want something offered it costs you nothing to be a gentleman. I will see you in Tijuana one week ffrom today starting on 10th till the 17th and I cannot wait to get there.

    I tried my first TJ SW today and have to agree with everything Derek has said. At the suggestion of a fellow monger, I tried Paola in the alley. Petite, blonde hair with red streaks. We agreed on $30 sin ropa with $3 for the room, one position......WTF? The motel was filthy, the leering proprietor winking at me as we went to the room. No bathroom in the room, not even a sink. If either of us had needed to [CodeWord140] it was out the door and down the hall. I guess at $3 one shouldn't complain but I mention these details in the spirit of comparison. We disrobed and I let her assist Mr Happy in getting interested. Again, WTF? Perhaps (again) I've been spoiled by the usual CBJ that accompanies the rubber application but it certainly didn't seem to be part of Paola's repertoire. About the time I was starting to get some sensation that things were happening there, she rolled over into starfish mode and basically indicated I should mount up. After a few minutes of trying to maintain a brave face (you know what I mean) I rolled off and had her finish me off manually. She even kept the rubber on. So as to keep the duvet spotless no doubt.
    Contrast this with Vanya of Adelitas, who I had been packing 2 hrs prior. CBJ, CG, RCG and mish, very active, funny, with a smattering of English to boot. The upcharge is worth it IMO and I am glad to see that I am not alone.

  13. #1211
    Quote Originally Posted by Derekj6926
    A further note is that I find these ladies very very clean, much cleaner than the average hooker in the USA that costs a couple of hundred dollars a pop.
    Really depends on the girl. I've know a few that shower after every session. Some that only wash their pussy in the sink. And some that do nothing more than wipe the cum off with a dry towel and go back to the bar ready for the next customer.

  14. #1210

    Street Walkers vs Club Ladies

    I must say I have tried numerous street ladies, the only one I remember the name of is Lupita, the lady with the umbrella. The street ladies almost without exception were not as good a time especially Lupita, very disappointed in her. Whenever I am in the Hong Kong Club (HK) or Adelitas Bar (AB) the experience is so much better. Any opinion of HK or AB about one being better than the other, it really is personal preference and they are right next door to each other so you can decide for yourself, AB is more like Playboy and HK is more like Hustler. In my opinion. In HK and AB you get a chance to talk with the lady of your choice getting an understanding of what your desires are with her with the ambiance of the club before you ever decide to take her to a room for her services, on the steet that is difficult to do. A further note is that I find these ladies very very clean, much cleaner than the average hooker in the USA that costs a couple of hundred dollars a pop. Tijuana is a great place and in my opinion as safe as most large cities in the USA. Get a cab at the border and go directly to Adelitas Bar, stay on the well lighted streets and out of alleys, use your God given instincts and there is almost no chance you will have any problems. If you are drunk, drugged up, or rude plan on problems anywhere you go in the world including Tijuana. Be polite saying gracias no when you don't want something offered it costs you nothing to be a gentleman. I will see you in Tijuana one week ffrom today starting on 10th till the 17th and I cannot wait to get there.

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  15. #1209
    Chicas are on some rotation cycle...they just disappear.
    The girls on the street can't hide their apperance like AB chicas.
    Enjoy your fav while it last.

    Currently Americans are insignificant. Pesos use on the street is great but in the HK club it is a total waste of time.

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