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  1. #8286
    Quote Originally Posted by Frogg  [View Original Post]
    It reminds me of the guys who claim they "don't pay" because they don't lay down with prostitutes and only chase "free" normal girls, yet they are spending a fortune wining-and-dining, enormous amounts of time on Tinder and in the gym working out, buying in-fashion clothes, taking seminars to sharpening social skills "game," pretending that all the effort doesn't constitute payment.
    On another note regarding guys who claim they don't pay and say they have "game", I always wondered why they post on a monger board.

  2. #8285

    Magic Wand

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackThought  [View Original Post]
    LOL that's what happened to me with Freija. Wanted to be paid upfront $100, then immediately upselled anal, BBBJ, and CIM package for $60 upfront ($160 total) and her stinky pussy killed the mood.

    The second girl did not ask for payment upfront or charge extra for BBBJ etc. Just had great vibes from her and the session was amazing and unrushed. She's been working at HK club for 3+ years too, but did not seem like a hardened pro.
    The way you guys talk, you'd think that paying afterward is like a magic wand that makes sticky pussies smell fresh, transforms prickly personalities into golden smiles and rainbows, prevents goods from being stolen, and makes your dick grow bigger.

    So what do you do when the service is not quite right, do you not pay?

    It reminds me of the guys who claim they "don't pay" because they don't lay down with prostitutes and only chase "free" normal girls, yet they are spending a fortune wining-and-dining, enormous amounts of time on Tinder and in the gym working out, buying in-fashion clothes, taking seminars to sharpening social skills "game," pretending that all the effort doesn't constitute payment.

    Nobody wants to pay, yet it is the only way to get anything in life without being beaten or thrown behind bars or cursed somehow.

    If you believe in karma, the sooner the payment the better.

  3. #8284
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainSolo  [View Original Post]
    Unknown Girls who insist on money upfront usually have big surprises to spring on you right after taking your money, like very stinky pussies, severe child birth damages in bellies, botched shriveled boob jobs, not to mention a starfish experience and many 'tiempo" ' you come now'.

    Unknown girls who have no confidence to deliver services before payment are not worth taking.
    LOL that's what happened to me with Freija. Wanted to be paid upfront $100, then immediately upselled anal, BBBJ, and CIM package for $60 upfront ($160 total) and her stinky pussy killed the mood.

    The second girl did not ask for payment upfront or charge extra for BBBJ etc. Just had great vibes from her and the session was amazing and unrushed. She's been working at HK club for 3+ years too, but did not seem like a hardened pro.

  4. #8283

    The haughty putas

    Big Magick,

    Some HK girls have way inflated sense of their worth, asking $200 for ST, $800 for TLN. The bros should reject haughty girls to teach them lessons.

    I would make lower offers to new girls to feel their attitudes. If they are not even willing to negotiate, they would almost always deliver difficult, hostile sessions in bed, regardless how much I pay them. I know quite a few regulars in HK, so I can always have 1,000-peso sessions every time. Some regulars are just so sweet, I would end up give them good propinas above the agreed rate. Whenever I see them in the club, I would also stop to ask how they are, tip and squeeze them a little like real friends. I would point out the hot, reasonable girls to noobs so they don't get robbed.

    It's very nice to have many beautiful, good-smelling, good-feeling HK girls as friends with benefits without high expenses, headache and legal liabilities.

  5. #8282
    Quote Originally Posted by Frogg  [View Original Post]
    I regularly break your rule of "never-ever-ever pay upfront" and I have a great time, even with Anahi. Your rule is worthless. I take anything Captain Solo writes and says with a grain of salt--you will probably be steering clear of the ugly women of Medellin based on his advice.

    Since this thread is about Tijuana, I will say that TJ is a great place, it offers incredible value and convenience. The more I go to TJ, the more I like it. Unlike others who go to Colombia, I do not bad-mouth TJ. I find the fun, free-wheeling atmosphere of TJ exciting and refreshing, the people are genuinely friendly, the food is awesome, and the chicks are professional, beautiful, and do fair business.
    I take everything I read on this forum with a grain of salt. Our reports are all colored by our own background, experience, location, finances, etc. Great advices for some could be horrible advices for others. I simply report and give advice from my perspective and if it helps someone as reading this forum has helped me, great. If you think it is all load of BS, and want to ignore everything I say and do things your way, by all means. There's no need to get argumentative.

    I'm actually flying out to Colombia this weekend, so we shall see. My gut tells me despite of the good captain's complaints, I will still have a good time there, especially if one is willing to go upmarket with escorts and use online resources such as FB / SA like I do.

  6. #8281
    Quote Originally Posted by BigMagick  [View Original Post]
    A lot of bar girls tell me they are being coached to ask for 150 $ or more. Pussy is not worth that much! Maybe for all day or TLN. Hopefully business dies down for HK and prices go back to 50-60 $ a pop. As mongers we need to collectively not give in. We hold all the power. Pussy is definitely a buyers market.
    There was another post confirming that since October the arribas were way down, and that is bar girls' largest source of income, so I'm hopeful that some sanity will return once things get back to normal a bit.

  7. #8280

    Grains of Salt - in Defense of Tijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by BangBangBoy  [View Original Post]
    I'm with the captain on this one. Out of all the SG's, escorts, HK / Tropical girls I did on my last trip only two asked for payment upfront. One SG was satisfied after I placed the agreed amount out in the open to show her I have the money, the other was Anahi, who obviously decided to scam me before we event got to the room.
    I regularly break your rule of "never-ever-ever pay upfront" and I have a great time, even with Anahi. Your rule is worthless. I take anything Captain Solo writes and says with a grain of salt--you will probably be steering clear of the ugly women of Medellin based on his advice.

    Since this thread is about Tijuana, I will say that TJ is a great place, it offers incredible value and convenience. The more I go to TJ, the more I like it. Unlike others who go to Colombia, I do not bad-mouth TJ. I find the fun, free-wheeling atmosphere of TJ exciting and refreshing, the people are genuinely friendly, the food is awesome, and the chicks are professional, beautiful, and do fair business.

  8. #8279
    Quote Originally Posted by ClownDays  [View Original Post]
    People getting quoted $100-120 by average looking bar girls, or guys that simply don't know better.

    At $1,000 pesos for 30 minutes, you're better off just getting an escort for an hour.
    A lot of bar girls tell me they are being coached to ask for 150 $ or more. Pussy is not worth that much! Maybe for all day or TLN. Hopefully business dies down for HK and prices go back to 50-60 $ a pop. As mongers we need to collectively not give in. We hold all the power. Pussy is definitely a buyers market.

  9. #8278
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainSolo  [View Original Post]
    Unknown Girls who insist on money upfront usually have big surprises to spring on you right after taking your money, like very stinky pussies, severe child birth damages in bellies, botched shriveled boob jobs, not to mention a starfish experience and many 'tiempo" ' you come now'.

    Unknown girls who have no confidence to deliver services before payment are not worth taking.
    I'm with the captain on this one. Out of all the SG's, escorts, HK / Tropical girls I did on my last trip only two asked for payment upfront. One SG was satisfied after I placed the agreed amount out in the open to show her I have the money, the other was Anahi, who obviously decided to scam me before we event got to the room. All the other girls didn't even mention money when we were in the room as the negotiations were completed before hand. We focused on the act while in the room, and I just placed the agreed amount on the furniture closest to the door after the act when they were taking a shower or getting dressed. They simply say "thank you" and pick up the money on their way out. I made a point of handing them the tip if I am tipping them, so they know I am tipping, and didn't just miscount the money.

  10. #8277

    Rapidine

    Quote Originally Posted by TJLee  [View Original Post]
    Great report Bang, where is Rapid Inn? Is it Rapidine across Garcia? Rapidine has better rooms upstairs with shower.
    Yes, across the street from La Gloria / hotel Garcia. You are probably right about the name. Only my third time in Tijuana so still getting my bearings.

  11. #8276
    Quote Originally Posted by Hargow20  [View Original Post]
    It's unbelievable that some foolish guys are willing to pay these ridiculous prices.
    People getting quoted $100-120 by average looking bar girls, or guys that simply don't know better.

    At $1,000 pesos for 30 minutes, you're better off just getting an escort for an hour.

  12. #8275

    Dinero ahorra, tiempo, you come now ect

    Unknown Girls who insist on money upfront usually have big surprises to spring on you right after taking your money, like very stinky pussies, severe child birth damages in bellies, botched shriveled boob jobs, not to mention a starfish experience and many 'tiempo" ' you come now'.

    Unknown girls who have no confidence to deliver services before payment are not worth taking.

  13. #8274
    It's unbelievable that some foolish guys are willing to pay these ridiculous prices. Kathy is the only SG in the Zona that is 9 in the Zona. Her services are limited so I am pay her 500 peso's. Now I have been paying my SW Liz $40. Have also paid blonde SW Kayla $50 in the past year or so. Now this may seem hypocritical. But this only because price was for a hour. These girls gave exceptional service & were willing to do BBJ? Facials. I can see paying $35 possibly. But letting these girls jack up the price to $50 is foolish.

    Quote Originally Posted by BigMagick  [View Original Post]
    50 $ for a street girl seems outrageous. Might as well get a bar girl at that point.

  14. #8273

    1000 peso street girls

    Quote Originally Posted by BangBangBoy  [View Original Post]
    Want to summarize my experience with street girls on my trip from this past weekend to Tuesday. I did total of 6 street girls, the most I have ever done in one trip. I only did HK girls and escorts in my previous trips, but tried my first street girl on my last trip and was surprised the service was better than some of the HK girls. The street girls may not look as enticing in their street clothing compare to HK girls all dolled up in their lingerie, but once the cloth is off, there isn't much difference. Even if you had a bad session, you won't feel as bad as a bad session with a HK girl because of the lower cost.

    Yes, the Zona inflation is in full effect as reported by others. All the street girls standing by Hong Kong's backdoor quote $1,000 pesos for half an hour and won't back down. Two girls even quoted me $60 for 15 min. Although they were busy watching a stupid video on their phones at the time, so could just be quoting a stupid price to get rid of me, but still. I found the further away from HK you go, the better the prices get with the street girls. The service is also more negotiable and attitudes get better. With some of them, you have to pay $100 pesos to their hotel if you want to take them back to Cascadas, but it still works out cheaper with better service. So my recommendation would be go further away from HK to get the girls for better price and attitude and bring them back to Cascada's if you have a room there already. You don't have to speak Spanish to negotiate either, just pull out your phone, use the calculator for the price or use the translator app.

    #Ana from Monterrey#.

    She usually wears a short skirt and stands right by the Cascadas back entrance. I like flacas so she was little bigger for my taste but I was very "thirsty" the first day in Tijuana and she had good size boobs, $1000 for half hour. Performance was lackluster. Would not recommend.

    #Melanie from Veracruz#.

    Only street girl by HK I would recommend. Olive colored skin, tall, skinny legs, with be cup's. She always has a smile on her face and is general just a happy person. I booked her for half an hour at Cascadas, couldn't finish due to condom at the end of the session. She insisted on finishing me with her hands even we went over the time. Talking about customer service!

    #Anna "E" from Mexico City (Don't know how her name is spelled, but it is pronounced as "Anna" with an "E" added)#.

    Avoid! Avoid! Avoid! Starfish and scammer. Tallish, used to be really pretty but now has bad acnes. Booked her for an half-hour session. She talked to the front desk at Cascadas and I paid $7 for the room. I made the mistake of not remembering you need to pay extra for extended time. After we got to the room, she insisted on I pay first. Claimed since she doesn't know me, I had to pay first to make her comfortable. I told her I never pay first. This went on for 5 min before she finally gave up. Her BJ was very harsh, which is hard to do with a condom. I had to tell her "suave" multiple times for it not feel like getting a BJ from sand paper. I cut the BJ short as it was never comfortable. She went starfish after we started sex. Not that I expected GFE from a street girl, but she acted straight up as she didn't want to be there the whole session. The knock came at 20 min since I didn't pay extra $7 for the extended time. I was surprised, but she fully expected it and couldn't get dressed fast enough. Had I paid her for the half hour price, I would be out extra pesos with no recourse. Now I understand why she insisted on payment upfront, trying to scam the full amount for the half hour knowing full well the knock will come early as she planned to cut the session short from the start. So yeah, avoid her like the plague and never, ever, ever pay upfront.

    #Julia? Juana? From Veracruz#.

    Found her further down the alley after all the girls by HK insisted on $1000 for half hour. I had a room in Cascadas by this time so took her back to my room. She needed to pay $100 pesos to her hotel, so it ended up being $700 total for half hour. Petite body with nice skin. She gave a nice, soft blow job including some DT. She looked and smelled really clean so I asked her for DATY and she readily agreed. Condom went on, we went through all the positions, including multiple positions with her on top. Took me a long time to finish but she was patient and compliant the whole time. All the girls from Veracruz seem to give good service, need to look for them next time.

    #Catalina from Puebla#.

    Found her standing in front of Gloria Bar after I had some delicious shrimp and fish tacos off the street cart nearby on early Monday evening. Petite girl with good size boobs. We negotiated $600 for half hour (saw she wasn't getting much business when I was eating) and up to the room we went. The room there was surprisingly nice. Not exactly Cascadas, but nice enough with satin sheets. Her performance was good but I again couldn't finish with condom. She offered to finish me with her hands but I decided to save my leche for a Tropical girl I was meeting later that night.

    #Kimberly from Puebla#.

    When I was walking to HK to get my luggage on Tuesday afternoon, got a text from my airline that my flight was delayed for 2 hrs. So decided to spend the pesos I have left on some Birria tacos and a street girl. Kimberly caught my eye with her very long raven black hair in front of the rapid inn. I've never ventured this far for from the HK "reservation," but decided to give it a shot. We negotiated $700 pesos for half hour. The facility in the Rapid Inn was very basic, but at least clean. She was average built but had the the softest, white porcelain skin I had ever seen in the Zona. I couldn't finish again with the condom at the end of the session and she offered to finished me with her mouth (with a new condom) for extra $100 pesos. A good finish to my trip.

    With the current Zona inflation in both HK and SW's, escorts seem to be the better option. Not only is the service better (DFK / BBBJ included as standard) and so is the value ($1700-$2500 pesos) for 1 hour, $300 US for TLN. You also get to stay in a normal hotel in a much safer part of Tijuana, and don't have to deal with everyone always have their hands out asking you for tips or try to shake you down as in the Zona.
    50 $ for a street girl seems outrageous. Might as well get a bar girl at that point.

  15. #8272
    I will sometimes pay a girl upfront if I have been with her before. But if she is push or suspicious about her than I will refuse. This is a sign that that their service will be lousy. About 3 or 4 weeks ago I was with that girl Marlene in Tijuana. She demanded the money before and her service was lousy. There is other times when I will give the girl half and put the other half on table. I tell her she can have the other half when we are done.

    Quote Originally Posted by Frogg  [View Original Post]
    I don't undersand the mania for insisting to pay afterward as ironclad rule. I generally pay upfront and almost always have good sessions. Very rarely does anything go wrong. Those few fails were from chicks who don't really belong in the business, usually ameteurs who should be doing something else or get with the program. A professional doesn't shirk after being paid, doesn't fail to deliver after deposit recieved. Getting into arguments is a buzz kill. I try to maintain rapport at all times, good rapport leads to good session. It helps probably helps that some women find me handsome (or so they tell me). But for me, it's just a pragmatic choice, I pay them upfront as a matter of course because I think it will lead to better session, just at you insist on paying afterward because you think it will be best for your situation. Once they've been paid, there's nothing else to negotiate, we move on to the action without any doubts, and focus on that. Anything else is wrong. A chick that's asked to perform without payment still has doubt that she will be paid at all (even if you showed her money, there's no gurantee you won't walkout without paying, especially if you've just met her--your just some stranger who wants sex and apparently uptight about money). There's still incentive for her to perfom well, there's still the possibility of tips, of repeat business..

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