Adelita Bar Reports

[Rob Hay]

Anyone got recommendations on what to do to get more of a GFE from a girl? I think I'm making the mistake of just going after the 9-10's without giving the more eager-to-please 8's a shot. Snapped a few pics of her afterwards.

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I have had some exceptional service from some of the hottest girls in there and not so good service with lesser looking girls. Usually the 2nd time with the same girl is better but its all on a ymmv/ case by case basis.

Has anyone seen the sister Camila/Sebrina from Sinaloa lately? Been there a couple times in the last months but havent seen them around this year yet.

[Efjayel]

No that's not the girl I was with. She doesn't have dark hair.

If a girl is sitting on top then it is a reverse cowgirl. The girl I was with did the position like in the picture below. But the way she positioned herself I had to have my legs up in the air which wasn't all that comfortable. But she had such a great ass the view was magnificent! She even told me it would make me cum quickly. It would have but I have good self control. She named the position as "ranita." Ranita means frog. lol

[Pablito Diablito]

What does Carmen look like and what is this new position she introduced you to? I think I've been with her and she tried that new move on me.

Carmen is from somewhere in the sticks, Jalisco so she looks like a Tapatia (girl from Guadalajara). I'd say she is about 5'3 or so, but never took off her stripper heals, even during sex. She has really fair skin, and black wavy, mid-length hair. She has a great cury figure with C/D cup, skinny waist and a great ass.

That new move, I've seen it called a reverse cowgirl on youporn, is kind of like doggy style, but the guy is lying on his back and the chick is sitting on top with her back to him. I think it is a little more photogenic pose than anything else, but monkey see, monkey do.

[Efjayel]

What does Carmen look like and what is this new position she introduced you to? I think I've been with her and she tried that new move on me.

[Pablito Diablito]

After reading CJ's manifesto on how to conduct business in the AB, I couldn't help but hear the wisdom, but think that this is relevant not just to AB, but anywhere mongering occurs. Granted, AB has some pretty haggard cougars on the hunt, but there are highly aggressive pros throughout any zona.

I was hanging out in the Centro this past Saturday and couldn't help but swing by the zona to see what types of beautiful little creatures I could grope a little. I had been a big fan of the HK because of one or two particular girls, but on this chosen day, around noon, there was not much to be seen.

I walked down to the AB, just to see the situation, but intended to pass through and keep moving. I walked in, headed to the bar in the back on the left, skipped the waiter and went strait to the bartender (they usually seam too busy dealing with the shit head waiters to harass me any). A couple of really beat older pros tried to get me to buy them a ficha, but politely declined. While I do speak Spanish, I choose to speak english when I'm trying to get rid of these girls, using a lot of slang they don't understand.

From my seat in the back bar I had a pretty good view of the place and picked out 3 girls I was into. Next came the strategy. Who wold be a good lay, who would tell me I could not touch her tits and who was coming up to dance? I decided against the tall blond because I think Mexican blonds get too much attention, and again decided against the skinny morena because she had this irritated look in her eye.

Carmen had just finished a ficha at some Mexican dude's table and thus took up her spot standing sola next to the DJ booth. Being that I was in a bit of a hurry, or maybe I just didn't want to hang out, I pounced and walked over as soon as I saw she was there. "Te puedo invitar a una cerveza" (Can I buy you a beer?) She smiled at the fact I asked her in Spanish (whether you speak good Spanish or not the effort goes a long ways)

After chatting for a few minutes she asked if I wanted to go to the hotel. I asked her how much, and she said US$70. Since the exchange rates jumped I only use pesos, and wanted to see how good her math was, so I asked how much that would be in pesos. Knowing a little bit about exchange rates, and how poor of a rate AB gives, I casually asked the bartender what the rate was. He said 12 something, but I knew the true exchange rate to be closer to 14 something. Carmen then told me that MXP$900 was the equivalent of $70. I smiled and said I would love to go upstairs with her.

Upstairs I was was still a little nervous about a cold lay, but she first got naked, asked for the money, gave me 100pesos change(with the current exchange rate I gave her about USD$62 so I over paid by about 2 bucks), and told me to relax and lay down. She put a lot of effort and eye contact into the CBJ. She had her ass facing in my direction, and I loved rubbing those great nalgas, and lightly caressing her clit. She asked if I wanted to be on top or on bottom for sex. I told her I wanted her on top and she went strait to work, rubbing her tits, putting my hands on her tits. She got off of me after a couple minutes, I started to get up, but she told me to relax, and she just turned around for another position (that I have to say I have been meaning to try). She kept working and from the new view I became more of a fan of her curvaceous figure and great ass. After another couple minutes, she got off of me again and told me she wanted me on top. That is about where I blew my load. She know when I was getting close and kept talking to me and saying all sorts of "ay papi" just as I was getting there. She is an excellent performer and I definitely work with her again.

Thinking back on AB, I have had one bad experience with a really hot chick who was totally coked out (I could see the powder in her nose when she was lying on her back). But, I have had about 6 good experiences with girls from AB now, and think that is not such a bad ratio. The bad experience was the product of poor selection process on a busy (ie competitive) night. CJ has some great tips for navigating the AB, but these tricks are relevant to the entire zona, not just AB.

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[Efjayel]

This is generally true in all the bars except one time in Hong Kong when I was told to leave if I didn't buy something (but that was one out of dozens).

That happened to me at HK as well. I was standing with a crowd of other guys and its the second time the bartender comes up to me and only me asking to buy a drink. I shake my head and continue looking at the dancers. He tells me I have to buy something or get out. I ignored him for a bit like he wasn't even there. Then I look at him straight in the eye and say, "then I guess I'll leave" and walked out. He followed me to make sure I left. lol.

[JPF]

Adelita's gets you in, they get your money, and when you stop drinking they get you out.

That advice is gold but I do have one disagreement. If you are standing (i.e. not sitting at one of the tables) there is no need to buy a drink. I politely decline the requests and have never had a problem. This is generally true in all the bars except one time in Hong Kong when I was told to leave if I didn't buy something (but that was one out of dozens).

I like to check out the different bars so I wander in and look around without buying anything. If I see something I like and take a seat then I'll buy a drink. Otherwise, I just move on to the next bar.

[Surfnk9]

Newbies need to understand that the girls are there to make money, not make love.

One hint that was given on this board a couple times too late for me was:
at the first sign a substandard deal, walk.
That’s right, leave. Any time before payment is made; you can just walk out the door.
Tell her you don’t feel good about the situation and leave. If you are already in the room, leave and ask the guy at the desk for your money back. He’ll always say no, but if you want you can come back with another gal. If more guys walked, maybe gals would rethink what service means.

[Professor10]

Country John,
You are the man - wise advice indeed. You are truly experienced in your dealings with the WG's and the P4P scene. I have been to TJ about 4 times in my entire life and have had a good time - in reading this board, I have gotten great advice.

Adelita's is really a 'candy store' and if you're eyes are popped out of their sockets, the WG's will smell blood in the water. Stay calm, cool and collected and following your advice, they will have a better time. In reading more posts on HK, Salma sounds like a gem. She is a bit older, but gives service with a smile. I will look for her the next time I'm down in TJ (should be in late May)

[Country John]

Pussy has reached the status of "commodity" in the true meaning of the word at Adelita's. It has become so well understood that even the girls now fully understand the power of the pussy wrench, and most of them are as stupid as a bag of road nails.

That, coupled with their "bait and switch" skills, among other things, has left the monger in a situation where he truly has to fend for himself if he wishes to experience more than "industrial sex." IN other words, the monger has to become at least as good at what he is doing as the girls and bars are at what they are doing. Keep in mind here that the girls and the bars work their programs every day of the week. Compare that to the number of times per year you get to come here and monger and you begin to see the picture more clearly.

A girl has her game face on as you stumble through the curtains, she has you sized up in 5 seconds and probably has already decided whether she'll go with you and for what price etc. She'll read your body language, watch what types of girls you approach, etc. It's a science. The science of industrial sex. Some are very good at it.

At Adelita's, you are never in control; especially on a busy night. IN most cases, the best you can hope for is MAYBE having a great session. Go there expecting more than a 1:5 average is folly. Forget about it.

Adelita's gets you in, they get your money, and when you stop drinking they get you out.

Back in the day, when Adelita's had the old interior with its nooks and crannies, you could take your girl to a booth, feel her up and do some pre-session conditioning. If you were a repeat or an amigo you might get a laugh or two in before going arriba. GFEs were much more common then, and Adelita's seemed to appreciate your business. Not so anymore. Not by a long shot.

Today, you bring your erect penis and your wallet; get in line; wait your turn and you take your chances. There is always the seasoned monger who will successfully tweak the girl and get his way upstairs, but it takes the skills of a well seasoned sport-fuckerman to pull it off consistently.

Newbies need to understand that the girls are there to make money, not make love. They've already been told how pretty they are and how lovely their figure is a thousand times that day. They are like the customer service reps at Fry's electronics. They've heard every line in the book. Nothing you say will impress them unless it has to do with paying them lots of dollars for sex.

Try Country John's strategy for bagging a babe at Adelita's and having a decent session: (assuming I don't need to tell you how to dress)

1. Enter the club, walk around the entire place once without looking a single girl in the eye. Don't look impressed, or have that "kid in a candy store" look about you.

2. Start looking at girls who are across the room, not standing next to you. Look at them from a distance to get a vibe from their body language. Reject anything that rubs against you in the first 15 minutes you are there.

3. NEVER let a girl horn in on your table or your standing space. YOU are the customer, YOU pick the girl. Tell them: "Not now, maybe later." Be nice, she's a girl.

4. When you spot the girl, and you want to pre-session her, offer to buy her a drink. If she asks to go arriba, say "No." If she says yes to the drink, take some time to talk to her, but get to the point. Don't bother asking her what her name is. Don't waste your time.

5. Get to the point. "How much to go arriba?" "Is it true that the girls here say that they will give good sex but change when they get to the room?" Negotiate your deal completely. "I want to suck your tits, is that OK with you?" "Will you change your mind in the room?" "Do you try to end early?" "Will you BBBJ?" You know, stuff like that. Be up-front, direct but be respectful and nice about it.

6. Girls lie. Remind her in the room BEFORE you get undressed that she will allow you to cum on her face or whatever the deal was. If she changes her mind, you are dressed and can leave her in the room and your money in your pocket.

7. Paying up-front is common in this industry. I tell the girl that I pay AFTER the session, but here is the money (placed on the table or night table on YOUR side of the bed,) and when we finish you can take it.

8. Propina's (tips) are optional. Unless she does something extraordinary, I'd pass on the tip. Save your money.

9. After the session, be square with the girl. Pay her, get out and get back downstairs or leave. It's over. She doesn't love you. You got your nut, she has her money. Everything is fine.

Almost ALL of my GFE's were with the girls in the alley. The only exception is Salma de Hong Kong. She is a star and delivers the goodies every time.

So, whether you are new to this board and this hobby or one of those seasoned vets out there, the above has worked well for me. I've had my share of ups and downs of course, but these lessons were hard won.

Be safe and be nice
Country John

[Firedsup]

Man that was right on how well those days use to be, hell you could fall of a curb on Revo. and end up at Chicago, and still go to Adelitas, my best experience has not always been with 10's or even 9's, .

Like the true monger any that looked good was worth their weight in cervezas, anything you could imagine you can have for $20 or 30 a pop and 2 chicas, or if you have the gift of gab probably for nothing.

Happy hunting

[Sgt Perv]

PS. Not trying to slam this guy. I'm still clueless on "Reports of Distinction" policy. How does a newbie that could not finish qualify as a report that is distinctive, informative and help anybody?

Regardless of his report count, I think he wrote a great report with pics.

He reported in detail what happened and with who she was. He also summed up his mistakes including what he could have done to make his time better.

Newer mongers to the Tijuana scene could learn from his report and older mongers can see that things are not changing that much.

Good job Socaljdizzle!

For a better GFE you may want to stay away from the AB hotties.

As reported many times, you have to let the chica get comfortable with you in order to maximize your chances of GFE.

Slower times in the zona (day or non weekend) will also help.

For a GFE, time and familiarity are important. Either repeat visits to Tijuana or small chit chat a few different times during a visit.

Relax take your time, it is not like you are not going to get laid, and she will also.

[Street King]

Hi Raddar,

Just curious to know if the girl Estrella had long red or blonde hair. If so was she about 5'4'' tall?

Thanks in advance.

[Naked Gunz]

Just got back from a very satisfying TJ run. I hit HK first and after a couple of rounds without seeing anything great I moved on to AB. Upon entry I noticed a smoking hot girl that was about 5' 3", slender figure with curvaceous ass and tits. Made a quick round but couldn't get her off my mind so went back and struck up a shitty Spanglish convo. Her name is Vanessa and she had a very pornstar'ish look. My Spanish is terrible and her English was equally crappy, but I asked simple questions and tried to make it easy. She quoted her price as $70 initially, talked her down to $60 then up we went.

Door closed and locked, time for the fun. She started kissing me w/o tongue right away, just sexy pecks on the mouth and chest. We both stripped and went at it. The one thing that I hated about the whole experience was that she kept putting her index and middle finger on the outside of her pussy and my unit as I was plowing her. I told her to move her hand multiple times and even had to grab it and hold both down (which was pretty hot ). She explained it was to keep the condom on, I however thought it was just her trying to make me finish faster by applying additional pressure. Some missionary, a lot of doggy and some awesome BBBJ (+$40) followed. I ended up, oddly enough, being unable to finish. She was begging and trying everything (except anal, asked but she said she never had and quoted me at $300!). I normally don't have too much trouble with finishing, in fact I pride myself on my aim, but for some weird reason TJ sessions seem to take a lot of effort on my part to finish off. I think it's the little things the girls do that make the encounter seem dull, after she did the finger thing I got kind of angered and took it out on her by going harder. It was a good enjoyable sport fuck, but the lack of passion and GFE really turned me off. Anyway she was very hot and I would recommend giving her a go if you hit up AB, can't miss her, stunningly beautiful, especially under the dark lights. Maybe someone else will have better luck than I.

Anyone got recommendations on what to do to get more of a GFE from a girl? I think I'm making the mistake of just going after the 9-10's without giving the more eager-to-please 8's a shot. Snapped a few pics of her afterwards.

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This is the reason I've made only one TJ run while here in SD for four weeks.
SIGH!..AB just is not what it was in the 90's when I lived here and could stumble drunkenly from REV to Zona Norte, and get a very decent f*ck in AB, despite that racist asshole DJ pissing me off.

I could get more GFE, talk sh*t, pull their hair with my mouth, and practically do gymnastics with em back then. Hell a couple of em were even friends.
I guess every buisness must get more efficient to survive, but that means lack of quality for the customer. AB is now like every freakin strip club in America. The motto being" You might get laid, but you certainly will get fucked!"

Once you've been spoiled by two Pinays banging you like new brides, you won't really accept the very pro shit of TJ anymore unless you have to.
My recc to you pal is read more of Country Johns posts..or more veteran TJ posters like him for a GFE experiance. If you can, travel to PI or THAI, cuz every girl in this hemisphere knows how much money you have or should have and she wants it. Every mofo in the bar = dough. GFE does not mean a big payday.

For the average guy being made to get an orgasm with a complete stranger in a dingy room without the proper preparation, with no emotional connection, and people waiting for you to finish = PRESSURE.
Unless your doing porno next time save your swimmers for a lil while longer before you go in that situation so you'll be more horny or try some Vitamin V.

One last hint...Don't grab a lavishly dressed pro. In my and my friends experiances, the plainly dressed girl in jeans and regular shirt is not a real pro and gives a lil more GOOD service. She sees the REAL ho's there all flamboyant and sexy and feels she won't get one customer and gives a lil more for being picked. Yep, even in a wh***house, the ugly duckling is the prize.

CIAO

PS...Not trying to slam this guy..I'm still clueless on "Reports of Distinction" policy..how does a newbie that could not finish qualify as a report that is distinctive,informative and help anybody?

[Max Sevnty Two]

I remember this one. She was aggressive. All business though. Just kept quoting from her menu of "extras."

Does any one know when the best time to go to AB in April. I was thinking about going on Easter weekend. Would that be a bad idea? Or is there another weekend better suited in April? Any information or advice would be greatly appreciated. Happy hunting. Thanks.