Adelita Bar Reports

[Dogers69]

Never say never. A lot can happen in the next 10 years. I live close and travel to Juarez often and the zona in Juarez is gone because the mayor and the locals close to the zona decided to clean up the area. 10 years ago it was kinda similar to Tijuana but smaller. You still have prostitution in Juarez because the police don't care. This trend is pretty true to most zones of tolerance in mexico except Tijuana. I doubt zona norte will disappear soon but if something happens in the next few years where they want to replace the zona with something else I wouldn't be surprised.

Exactly. If someone wants that whole area for condos, which would sell, it's gone, or a factory, any big business worth billions can have the whole neighborhood in 2 days if they promise the local government tax revenue. I just know what we had in NYC that completely vanished. It was way bigger than zona norte. More fun. Cheaper. And all gone.

[Captain Solo]

To SteeleCan.

Bar girls have to take guys to the hotels owned by the bar owners, or they will get into a lot of troubles with the boss and would lose their jobs. Adelita girls have to go to hotel Coahuila, Hong Kong and Chavelas to Cascada, Chicago to hotel Jalos, where they get a kick back about 25%. The hotels also keep their hand bags of condoms, lubes and make ups to make sure they can't go anywhere else.

In theory girls can go with guys to whatever hotels they want after their work shifts end, but they may still risk pissing off the bosses and lose their jobs.

[SteeleCan]

If I have a room at Cascadas, am I allowed to bring a girl from Adelitas to my room?

[ChinaMan360]

I agree with OrganicAlo legal prostitution in Mexico will continue. Especially because prostitution in the US has been illegal since around 1914 ((except for a few brothels in Nevada). Mexicans have win-win situations. When the US sex workers and customers are arrested in continuous sting operations in hotels, motels, clubs 10 min from the border in Tijuana clubs like Hong Kong laugh all the way to the bank. Anyway, every major city in Mexico has a small "zona of tolerance" like the Zona Norte in Tijuana where prostitution is legal. Mexico simply has a different approach to prostitution than in the US. IMO Mexico in organizing and regulating legal prostitution is 50 years ahead of the US.

Never say never. A lot can happen in the next 10 years. I live close and travel to Juarez often and the zona in Juarez is gone because the mayor and the locals close to the zona decided to clean up the area. 10 years ago it was kinda similar to Tijuana but smaller. You still have prostitution in Juarez because the police don't care. This trend is pretty true to most zones of tolerance in mexico except Tijuana. I doubt zona norte will disappear soon but if something happens in the next few years where they want to replace the zona with something else I wouldn't be surprised.

[Captain Solo]

To Dcrist.

In about 2005, Jorge Hank Rhon, Tijuana's billionaire PRI mayor spent public funds to repair and upgrade the streets and sidewalks around the bar block. The filthy garbage bins and muddy gutters were removed. Coahuila alley was repaved and new sidewalks installed. The entire area became nice, clean.

He also proposed legislation to make paraditas leave the streets in the red light district and work strictly inside bars and hotel lounges. Not sure of his motivations, but based on his other improvements to the city, they must have been his earnest desire to make the city look nicer and work better, also to improve the image of working girls and to protect the dignity Tijuana women in general.

His proposed legislation met with fierce opposition from paraditas and their unknown supporters. I saw demonstrations with hundreds men and women, March through La Zona Roja to City Hall, which is about 5 miles away, people who don't normally work, live or associate with La Zona. They camped out near City Hall, protested noisily, threatened to disclose names of city officials and important people who were their clients. A lot of respectable men in Tijuana were scared shitless.

Hank Rhon quickly caved. I am guessing the paraditas had support among Tijuana's population for a tradition for their independence on how and where they work their trade, not being under control by bars' owners. It's sad to see some of the prettiest and sweetest young girls stand in the cold night in skimpy clothes selling sex, but I have the same, if not more, compassion for their plight and respect for their human dignity, just like for other normal people.

It's always risky to mess with traditions, in Mexico, US or any other countries.

Local politicians have tried to change things over the years and all have failed.

[StRobert]

A LOT has to happen in Mexico for the zona norte to disappear, I do not see that happening anytime soon, definitely not in the next 20 years.

I agree with OrganicAlo legal prostitution in Mexico will continue. Especially because prostitution in the US has been illegal since around 1914 ((except for a few brothels in Nevada). Mexicans have win-win situations. When the US sex workers and customers are arrested in continuous sting operations in hotels, motels, clubs 10 min from the border in Tijuana clubs like Hong Kong laugh all the way to the bank. Anyway, every major city in Mexico has a small "zona of tolerance" like the Zona Norte in Tijuana where prostitution is legal. Mexico simply has a different approach to prostitution than in the US. IMO Mexico in organizing and regulating legal prostitution is 50 years ahead of the US.

[LuvMexicanas]

Sunday is regular price. I asked one Sunday and Id I remember right, it was $44. Don't quote me on that exact number but it was a few dollars less than a HK single with the VIP discount which is $48. I just stayed at Cascadas as it's a little nicer. But if you have plans with an Adelita girl, there's nothing wrong with them. I did stay one night on a prior trip and the rooms are basic but clean.

Checked out of Ticuan today and got a $20 room and paid $5 key deposit. I asked if it's a different price Sunday and the reception guy told me it's $45. The room is small but clean and nice enough. I got a third floor room and the WiFi works pretty good. I received two towels and rolled inside each was a condom and a tiny bar of soap. I will use neither, as I brought my own.

[Phordphan]

It happens over night when it does happen. Keep in mind no other Hong Kongs exist in mexico. I'm sure Kong would love to open 30,40 of them all over mexico. I've read mexico loses millions in health aid for allowing prostitution in Tijuana. I'm not sure how the USA doesn't lose it since we have brothels too. Maybe its USA funded money. But yeah I do think Tijuana's income, is so vast, so widespread, so connected to San Diego, that zona norte could shut down tomorrow and not cause a problem in the cities economy. Enough people have so much money in zona that the coffee place on revolution is as expensive for a iced latte, as Starbucks. Its full of Mexicans all day long. People have the money. Just a matter of time till a politician needs to win a election or has a beef with hk owner.

The flaw in your logic is that prostitution is illegal in the States, but legal in Mexico. To outlaw it in Mexico would require a constitutional amendment, not just some politician. There are plenty of strip clubs all over Mexico. They are not all like HK because HK is a gringo-centric club. 40 - 50 HK clubs all over Mexico would be unsupportable. There aren't enough stupid gringos standing in line to plunk down $5 for a beer and $100 for 20 minutes upstairs.

Tijuana has loads of gringos who frequent it, so a club like HK can thrive. Regular Mexicans roll in a different fashion. If the gringos ever stop coming, the ZN will change to cater more to the locals.

[Dogers69]

A LOT has to happen in Mexico for the zona norte to disappear, I do not see that happening anytime soon, definitely not in the next 20 years.

It happens over night when it does happen. Keep in mind no other Hong Kongs exist in mexico. I'm sure Kong would love to open 30,40 of them all over mexico. I've read mexico loses millions in health aid for allowing prostitution in Tijuana. I'm not sure how the USA doesn't lose it since we have brothels too. Maybe its USA funded money. But yeah I do think Tijuana's income, is so vast, so widespread, so connected to San Diego, that zona norte could shut down tomorrow and not cause a problem in the cities economy. Enough people have so much money in zona that the coffee place on revolution is as expensive for a iced latte, as Starbucks. Its full of Mexicans all day long. People have the money. Just a matter of time till a politician needs to win a election or has a beef with hk owner.

[Dcrist0527]

A LOT has to happen in Mexico for the zona norte to disappear, I do not see that happening anytime soon, definitely not in the next 20 years.

I don't see it happening either. The federal system is not strong enough to do that. And the money that Tijuana brings in to the local economy is vital.

I think the only risk to our adult Disneyland is the cartels. I think there are two risks. First, and perhaps the highest danger, is cartel violence scaring away the gringos, making the business less profitable and shrinking the number of options. Second would be a takeover of sorts. There are areas of Mexico where the narcos have taken control of bars and agencies. And the results are not good.

I'm not predicting this will happen. In fact, I think it is unlikely. But I think those are the current risks. Local politicians have tried to change things over the years and all have failed.

[OrganicAlo]

NYC, in 1993 for few years was my Tijuana. But better. Strip clubs everywhere, I didn't drink so even the ones with just the girls o bar were fun. They had all these video VHS adult toy stores which had woman in rooms, you pay a dollar for private room with a window to the girls, the dollar got you few minutes to play with the girl. Which cost 2 bucks to play with her tits, kiss them, some guys I could see eating them out, girls gave handjobs for ten dollars, plus you had all the strip clubs. . I do believe, zona norte will be erased from Tijuana in next 20 years, first they will outlaw sex, HK will be just strip club, smaller places will close, all old buildings will be knocked down for yoga studios, hotels, parking garages, and dental offices. All it takes is one politician to end the fun. In NYC it was guliani.

A LOT has to happen in Mexico for the zona norte to disappear, I do not see that happening anytime soon, definitely not in the next 20 years.

[Dogers69]

Who here prowled the streets of NYC in the '70's? Numerous massage parlors and street walkers. Massage parlors were raided when the owners forgot to pay the cops or for show. They were back up and running a few days later. How many times I witnessed the police vans rounding up the hookers but they were back on the streets the next day. Those were my best mongering days.

NYC, in 1993 for few years was my Tijuana. But better. Strip clubs everywhere, I didn't drink so even the ones with just the girls o bar were fun. They had all these video VHS adult toy stores which had woman in rooms, you pay a dollar for private room with a window to the girls, the dollar got you few minutes to play with the girl. Which cost 2 bucks to play with her tits, kiss them, some guys I could see eating them out, girls gave handjobs for ten dollars, plus you had all the strip clubs. . I do believe, zona norte will be erased from Tijuana in next 20 years, first they will outlaw sex, HK will be just strip club, smaller places will close, all old buildings will be knocked down for yoga studios, hotels, parking garages, and dental offices. All it takes is one politician to end the fun. In NYC it was guliani.

[KC Questor]

If you are going to stick with Adelita Bar and only take girls from there AND plan on more than two trips, consider getting the room anyway, even if you don't sleep there. Two short term trips would be $36. By getting the room for yourself for the night you can extend the session and avoid the knock, and you have a place to go to charge your phone or get away from the club for an hour without having to go all the way back to Ticuan.

[LuvMexicanas]

Sunday is regular price. I asked one Sunday and Id I remember right, it was $44. Don't quote me on that exact number but it was a few dollars less than a HK single with the VIP discount which is $48. I just stayed at Cascadas as it's a little nicer. But if you have plans with an Adelita girl, there's nothing wrong with them. I did stay one night on a prior trip and the rooms are basic but clean.

Thanks. I'll validate and circle back.

[LuvMexicanas]

I don't think that rate is valid on Sunday. If you want to stay in the zona on Sunday and don't want to pay $50, consider Hotel Jalos attached to Chicago Club. I think that's $30 (and of course no charge to bring up a girl from CC). They don't have heat, which can make the rooms cold this time of year. I've also heard they often don't have hot water, but the times I've been there it was OK.

If you are into street girls, Hotel Ibiza is a good choice. It is attached to La Malquerida in the alley (formerly "schoolgirl corner" The stairs are a pain, but the location is great and the rooms are pretty nice. I don't know their current overnight rates.

I was going to do a total immersion Adelitas trip. I've never really given the place a fair chance so I wanted to do that by sampling 3-4 chicas during a 24-hour period. I'll swing by Sunday to see how much they charge and report back. Or maybe I'll do my usual book a room at Ticuan and do escorts. Perhaps I'll run through a few more chicas in the Goodgirls lineup. As another option, I could target some fresh off the bus newbies at Tropical. The options are many and time limited. Man I love Tijuana.