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  1. #2851

    Competing with HK and Adelitas Rooms.

    Have you been in Adelitas rooms?

    Spent one night in the room and never again.

    They are fine for short-term, but I will never again rent one for the night.

    Poor security. Poor quality. Poor staff.

    Price is one thing, but if Adelitas was serious about competing with other clubs, they should follow HK's lead and offer at least a clean, comfortable place for sex. All night long.

    Typically I can find a few girls of quality in Adelitas.

    Granted the ratio of do-able girls is lower, but overall I have enjoyed Adelitas for lower pressure and nice atmosphere.

    One of my other complaints is that Adelitas does not have a continuous stage show.

    Weekends, yes. But HK always has girls putting on a show, even at 10 am Wednesday with three mongers in the bar.

    Bar Tropical is worse in this regard; huge gaps in the stage presentation, occasionally the DJ sings (badly), other random stage presentations.

    OTOH, I have met a few fun locals (including couples) who have come to BT to hang out and dance.

    Seems that they cannot decide on their market.

  2. #2850

    Life is good.

    Yep. I remember HongKong was a small, dark, seedy place with old, lumpy strippers swaying their asses on the tiny bar next to the alley door. I used to visit Hong Kong last, after Chicago and Adelita, and would close my eyes on those lumpy women hehe. Did find some pretty girls one time. They just drank fichas and talked, no sex. Damn.

    When HK just expanded, they had the same old lumpy women for a while. But then their recruiting program went into overdrive and brought in some of the hottest girls in all Mexico. I understand HK tries out second-tiered girls in Tropical first. The best ones are then sent to HK. The hottest girls are interviewed and start straight in HK.

    You are dead on. Considering close to a hundred hot girls in HK every night, low cost, nice weather, convenience factors, we are very lucky to live near Tijuana. Guys who live in apartments in Tijuana have loads of girls crashing for weeks or months with free sex just for a place to get settled.

    Pretty girls, good sex, fresh sea food, cheap drinks, low prices, warm, nice, dry climate, now that's a good life. As Mel Brooks once famously said,"It's good to be the King."

  3. #2849
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainSolo  [View Original Post]
    Bars owners and chicas in Tijuana can expand their market and make lots more big money by attracting high-rollers from all over the world if they move into the high-end market for big players, just like Las Vegas. They should also generally upgrade the quality of facilities, girls and services.

    The easiest, quickest improvements, with the highest returns, would be to educate the girls how to dress, look, smell, talk, act, seduce and make love like high-class movie stars and blue-blooded royalties, not like bare-footed peasants from the corn fields. Only a few HK girls know the arts of making love; the rest all need coaching.

    There should be upscale saunas, like those in Macau and China, where the girls pamper and seduce clients like kings, with steam baths and multiple sessions over 90 minutes to 2 hours.

    Perhaps Tijuana bar owners should take a tour of major mongering spots, Macau, Hong Kong, Bangkok, Pattaya, Germany, Holland ect to research novel ways to put Tijuana in a prominent spot in mongers' map.
    I have been to the Red Light District in Amsterdam many times. You have hundreds or thousands of people: drunken tourists, gawkers who behave as if they've never seen a girl in a window. They shout at girls, take pictures, in addition, it can still be cold, wind, rain or snow. The price in Amsterdam is 50 euros. - IMO Tijuana is much better. I remember Hong Kong club 18 years ago was a little boring club with 5 chicas, and see HK now. I don't complain much because here in California prostitution is illegal since 1914 and now everything is illegal in California: prostitution, brothels, massage salons, soap sauna etc. So it is difficult to complain about other countries when everything is illegal here. IMO we are lucky to live near Tijuana.

  4. #2848

    The sex consultants.

    Bars owners and chicas in Tijuana can expand their market and make lots more big money by attracting high-rollers from all over the world if they move into the high-end market for big players, just like Las Vegas. They should also generally upgrade the quality of facilities, girls and services.

    The easiest, quickest improvements, with the highest returns, would be to educate the girls how to dress, look, smell, talk, act, seduce and make love like high-class movie stars and blue-blooded royalties, not like bare-footed peasants from the corn fields. Only a few HK girls know the arts of making love; the rest all need coaching.

    There should be upscale saunas, like those in Macau and China, where the girls pamper and seduce clients like kings, with steam baths and multiple sessions over 90 minutes to 2 hours.

    Perhaps Tijuana bar owners should take a tour of major mongering spots, Macau, Hong Kong, Bangkok, Pattaya, Germany, Holland ect to research novel ways to put Tijuana in a prominent spot in mongers' map.

  5. #2847
    We should do some consulting with these guys, help turn the places around, and receive payment in lifetime supply of pinocha. I'd love to bust out a monopoly-style "free lifetime pussy" card.

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainSolo  [View Original Post]
    Someone should talk sense to the owners of Adelita and Chicago to copy some of HK's strategies that are bringing in lots of profit.

    I toured Adelita and Chicago last Sunday about 9 PM. Sad to say both places had a dozen girls who looked older, higher mileage and far less attractive than HK girls. They were sitting around most nights doing no business, making no money, but they would not try to figure out how to improve their business. It's ridiculous to hear older, ugly girls in Chicago quoting $100 for a session. These women are stupid, knowing nothing about competition in business, but thinking gringos are stupid, diving heads first for their loose, stinking pussies.

    Bars' managers are also stupid for not coaching their girls how to do good business. Unlike other countries, Tijuana girls are grossly uneducated in the arts of love making to produce the most satisfaction for their clients. HK girls are doing OK, but Adelita's, Tropical's and Chicago's girls need a lot more coaching how to treat clients with care and grace, giving them satisfaction and happiness.

  6. #2846

    Competitive marketing.

    Someone should talk sense to the owners of Adelita and Chicago to copy some of HK's strategies that are bringing in lots of profit.

    I toured Adelita and Chicago last Sunday about 9 PM. Sad to say both places had a dozen girls who looked older, higher mileage and far less attractive than HK girls. They were sitting around most nights doing no business, making no money, but they would not try to figure out how to improve their business. It's ridiculous to hear older, ugly girls in Chicago quoting $100 for a session. These women are stupid, knowing nothing about competition in business, but thinking gringos are stupid, diving heads first for their loose, stinking pussies.

    Bars' managers are also stupid for not coaching their girls how to do good business. Unlike other countries, Tijuana girls are grossly uneducated in the arts of love making to produce the most satisfaction for their clients. HK girls are doing OK, but Adelita's, Tropical's and Chicago's girls need a lot more coaching how to treat clients with care and grace, giving them satisfaction and happiness.

    Perhaps hotels Coahuila and Jalos should have 80% discount for rooms on Mon and Tuesday. Perhaps they should send out words that their chicas will provide far more sensual sessions with lower prices than HK's chicas.

    They should also consider competition by many nice, sweet, pretty street girls who would give personable services for 1/4 the prices of bar girls playing their nice, clean, high-class BS games. So far street and Adelita's girls have been holding about the same rates for the last 20 years, while HK girls have jacked up theirs by about 30%.

    The bros should use all leverages to push for better services and lower prices with bar girls and street girls. Considering wages and costs of living in Tijuana are about 1/10 of California's, prices of companies and sex in Tijuana should also be about 10% of prevalent rates in California, about $10 to $20 for ST.

    Opportunities and resources are abundant in Tijuana. We just need a few smart, strong, fierce captains to coach the girls and bars' managers to improve services and hold down costs. Tijuana could become the world's premier recreational location for adults with just a few improvements.

    Adelitas is smart to compete with HK in standard price. 60 $ standard). If they had their own VIP program ID be more tempted to be a loyal customer to prevent HK from monopolizing the Zona. Right now, HK girls are basically setting their own prices and the meseros can be really pushy. Mondays and Tuesdays are packed because of Hong Kong VIPs. Not as bad as weekends, but still busiest club in the Zona.

    Why doesn't Chicago or Adelitas do something to compete on Mondays and Tuesdays? Monday and Tuesday is such a good deal with rooms 80% off and the ability to bring girls from Chavels, tropical, or HK to said 80% off rooms. No wonder HK is dominating. They offer the best amenities. Service is debatable.

  7. #2845

    Adelitas competitor.

    Adelitas is smart to compete with HK in standard price. 60 $ standard). If they had their own VIP program ID be more tempted to be a loyal customer to prevent HK from monopolizing the Zona. Right now, HK girls are basically setting their own prices and the meseros can be really pushy. Mondays and Tuesdays are packed because of Hong Kong VIPs. Not as bad as weekends, but still busiest club in the Zona.

    Why doesn't Chicago or Adelitas do something to compete on Mondays and Tuesdays? Monday and Tuesday is such a good deal with rooms 80% off and the ability to bring girls from Chavels, tropical, or HK to said 80% off rooms. No wonder HK is dominating. They offer the best amenities. Service is debatable.

  8. #2844
    Quote Originally Posted by GNRPorche  [View Original Post]
    I only do street girls plus 1 from Chicago that blew me away during the drink and she only wanted 50. So this trip I did a Adelita girl. Now I chose her because the street girls took huge decline in attractiveness the last 2 months. Plus I keep going on weekends the girls are busy and the whole no nude thing don't touch me thing. Big turn off. I only have 1 reliable street girl. The rest I leave wishing I just for lap dance in Hong Kong. Which itself is 50/50. This a delta girl was tall a beauty 10 on a 1 to 10 scale The regulars know who I'm talking about She abouts ked for 60 and I have spoken to her prior. Anyway it was terrible. Don't kiss her chest don't kiss her basically same as street girl. But 40 more and 14 for the room. Big disappointment. I really need to just stick to lap dances unless I find a good one that's going to come to my hotel for 50. It's happened a 2 times but you need to put a lot of work in.
    What's the name of this Adelita's tall girl? Is she the tall blonde aka Holanda?

  9. #2843
    Quote Originally Posted by GNRPorche  [View Original Post]
    I only do street girls plus 1 from Chicago that blew me away during the drink and she only wanted 50. So this trip I did a Adelita girl. Now I chose her because the street girls took huge decline in attractiveness the last 2 months. Plus I keep going on weekends the girls are busy and the whole no nude thing don't touch me thing. Big turn off. I only have 1 reliable street girl. The rest I leave wishing I just for lap dance in Hong Kong. Which itself is 50/50. This a delta girl was tall a beauty 10 on a 1 to 10 scale The regulars know who I'm talking about She abouts ked for 60 and I have spoken to her prior. Anyway it was terrible. Don't kiss her chest don't kiss her basically same as street girl. But 40 more and 14 for the room. Big disappointment. I really need to just stick to lap dances unless I find a good one that's going to come to my hotel for 50. It's happened a 2 times but you need to put a lot of work in.
    The "whole no nude thing" with SGs is simply a function of going with her default base package. If you want to see her nude, you can negotiate that. If you want more positions or a BJ, you can negotiate that. If you want to play with her tits, you can negotiate that. You will almost certainly need more time than fifteen minutes, but, again, you can negotiate that. Most SGs I know will do a half hour session, nude, BJ, with multiple positions, for 400-600 pesos, depending on the provider. Roughly $25-35. That's still a rather large savings over a standard BG half hour session. And while service can be somewhat robotic the first time, the service frequently improves significantly with repeat sessions.

    If you really like a car that is a bargain, you don't walk away just because it doesn't have the optional equipment you really want. You negotiate the cost of adding those features. If you compare SGs and BGs using their base packages, you're comparing apples and oranges. If you level the playing field (comparable length of time and services provided), SGs are probably the most hugely undervalued commodity in the ZN, especially considering how much the cost of BGs, fichas, and BG hotels have gone up in the last couple of years.

    You probably know this already, but I just wanted to make the point for guys who don't have much experience with SGs. As for the unavailability of SGs during peak times, the same can be said for BGs when the bar is filled with customers. At least you can expect that the SG will be back in thirty minute or less. In the bars, it's not unusual for guys to ficha a girl for hours at a time. Again, apples and apples.

  10. #2842

    Multi pops?

    Quote Originally Posted by GNRPorche  [View Original Post]
    I only do street girls plus 1 from Chicago that blew me away during the drink and she only wanted 50. So this trip I did a Adelita girl. Now I chose her because the street girls took huge decline in attractiveness the last 2 months. Plus I keep going on weekends the girls are busy and the whole no nude thing don't touch me thing. Big turn off. I only have 1 reliable street girl. The rest I leave wishing I just for lap dance in Hong Kong. Which itself is 50/50. This a delta girl was tall a beauty 10 on a 1 to 10 scale The regulars know who I'm talking about She abouts ked for 60 and I have spoken to her prior. Anyway it was terrible. Don't kiss her chest don't kiss her basically same as street girl. But 40 more and 14 for the room. Big disappointment. I really need to just stick to lap dances unless I find a good one that's going to come to my hotel for 50. It's happened a 2 times but you need to put a lot of work in.
    I'm in and out like a rabbit will most bar girls do multi pops?

  11. #2841
    Quote Originally Posted by DavezPlace  [View Original Post]
    Hong Kong girls can also go to Rizzo, the hotel for Tropical Bar. They sometimes balk at walking across the street, but they are allowed to. Tropical girls can also travel to Cascades. Many street girls will also go there, which makes a Cascades room for the night a good investment, especially with the large discounts for VIP cardholders.
    Chavelas girls also use Cascadas. From the standpoint of bringing girls to your own room, the Hotel Coahuilla (next to Adelita) really only makes financial sense if you're pulling most or all of your providers from AB.

  12. #2840
    Quote Originally Posted by OrgasmDonor  [View Original Post]
    Found out last week Adelita Bar girls can only go to Hotel Coahuila and could not come to my room at Cascadas / Hong Kong. Just so you know.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zhagolo52  [View Original Post]
    This has always been the case, just like the HK girls can't go to other Hotels. Unless you buy her "salida" which is $$ or more.
    Hong Kong girls can also go to Rizzo, the hotel for Tropical Bar. They sometimes balk at walking across the street, but they are allowed to. Tropical girls can also travel to Cascades. Many street girls will also go there, which makes a Cascades room for the night a good investment, especially with the large discounts for VIP cardholders.

  13. #2839

    What's Her Name

    Quote Originally Posted by Luvem  [View Original Post]
    Had a great, but weird and expensive girl last night. I normally don't spend too much time in Adelita. I don't care for freak show boobs and butts, I prefer young spinners. Last night I was determined to find someone there a bit of challenge for me, since I have never been upstairs with Adelita girl before. Finally I found a cute young skinny natural girl, little tall for a spinner but other proportions were great. Ficha, grinding, teasing LFK, I knew this was the one. She asked if I wanted upstairs I said $60, she wanted $100. I needed to blow and was running out of energy and time to go back fishing. We settled on $70 con propina. Her CBJ was aggressive I have never had this happen but the tip of my man hurt she sucked so hard. She got on top and pounded me hard for maybe a minute. I thought two can play at this game. I stood her up bent her over pounded her hard for only a minute or two till blew. She didn't like it kept trying to pull away and was yelling something in Spanish, probably slow down or stop. I thought we were done after maybe 10 minutes. Then she said "I need more" she tried to get me back up but wasn't happening. Then she grabbed my finger and shoved it her pussy and made me finger her and play with her clit. I wasn't sure if I should like this or get paid. Eventually she moved my hand and forcefully made me suck her small tits while she fingered herself to completion. After all that forceful sex more pornstar than GFE, she wanted to cuddle as she shivered coming down from her orgasm. She showered asked for propina I said "no you give me propina". She laughed and gave me look that made me afraid she would punch me in the balls. Threw another 5 on the table and got the hell out of there. First time I felt like the Punta. I may need to see a Tijuana psychiatrist after that.
    Do you remember her name? Did you get any contact info?

  14. #2838
    That's epic. LOL. We all have different desires but that one would make my top 5! Hell, if the chica is into it that much, use me! Haha.

    Quote Originally Posted by Luvem  [View Original Post]
    Had a great, but weird and expensive girl last night. I normally don't spend too much time in Adelita. I don't care for freak show boobs and butts, I prefer young spinners. Last night I was determined to find someone there a bit of challenge for me, since I have never been upstairs with Adelita girl before. Finally I found a cute young skinny natural girl, little tall for a spinner but other proportions were great. Ficha, grinding, teasing LFK, I knew this was the one. She asked if I wanted upstairs I said $60, she wanted $100. I needed to blow and was running out of energy and time to go back fishing. We settled on $70 con propina. Her CBJ was aggressive I have never had this happen but the tip of my man hurt she sucked so hard. She got on top and pounded me hard for maybe a minute. I thought two can play at this game. I stood her up bent her over pounded her hard for only a minute or two till blew. She didn't like it kept trying to pull away and was yelling something in Spanish, probably slow down or stop. I thought we were done after maybe 10 minutes. Then she said "I need more" she tried to get me back up but wasn't happening. Then she grabbed my finger and shoved it her pussy and made me finger her and play with her clit. I wasn't sure if I should like this or get paid. Eventually she moved my hand and forcefully made me suck her small tits while she fingered herself to completion. After all that forceful sex more pornstar than GFE, she wanted to cuddle as she shivered coming down from her orgasm. She showered asked for propina I said "no you give me propina". She laughed and gave me look that made me afraid she would punch me in the balls. Threw another 5 on the table and got the hell out of there. First time I felt like the Punta. I may need to see a Tijuana psychiatrist after that.

  15. #2837

    Prices going up, Crazy Girl.

    Had a great, but weird and expensive girl last night. I normally don't spend too much time in Adelita. I don't care for freak show boobs and butts, I prefer young spinners. Last night I was determined to find someone there a bit of challenge for me, since I have never been upstairs with Adelita girl before. Finally I found a cute young skinny natural girl, little tall for a spinner but other proportions were great. Ficha, grinding, teasing LFK, I knew this was the one. She asked if I wanted upstairs I said $60, she wanted $100. I needed to blow and was running out of energy and time to go back fishing. We settled on $70 con propina. Her CBJ was aggressive I have never had this happen but the tip of my man hurt she sucked so hard. She got on top and pounded me hard for maybe a minute. I thought two can play at this game. I stood her up bent her over pounded her hard for only a minute or two till blew. She didn't like it kept trying to pull away and was yelling something in Spanish, probably slow down or stop. I thought we were done after maybe 10 minutes. Then she said "I need more" she tried to get me back up but wasn't happening. Then she grabbed my finger and shoved it her pussy and made me finger her and play with her clit. I wasn't sure if I should like this or get paid. Eventually she moved my hand and forcefully made me suck her small tits while she fingered herself to completion. After all that forceful sex more pornstar than GFE, she wanted to cuddle as she shivered coming down from her orgasm. She showered asked for propina I said "no you give me propina". She laughed and gave me look that made me afraid she would punch me in the balls. Threw another 5 on the table and got the hell out of there. First time I felt like the Punta. I may need to see a Tijuana psychiatrist after that.

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