Adelita Bar Reports

[Zenduka1]

Just check Google "US prostitution arrests". A lot of sting operations. The most arrested guys are in Polk County, Florida, regularly around 100 guys every few months. Since around 1914, when prostitution was banned in the US, the prostitution policy in the US has been completely wrong. Any state can legalize prostitution. For example, California has no problem with homeless tents in downtown San Francisco, LOS Angeles, San Diego, with thieves robbing stores, poisoned beaches and air from Imperial Beach to Coronado, housing and drug crises, etc. , but OMG, if you want a happy ending in a massage parlor. Then they will arrest you.

Agree, The US prostitution laws are as absurd as the marijuana banning or alcohol banning laws we have had. Really archaic, make no sense, oppressive, intervening in people's lives, anti democratic, anti freedom, BS.

[Sol12]

The last time I looked into an allegation like this, it turned out that the anti-prostitution activists had generated the numbers they wanted by counting prostitution ads, with no attempt to discern between trafficking victims and willing prostitutes.

Figures don't lie, but liars do figure.

I would hope that this would be based on actual victims but agree that many groups will bend the data to get the answer they want. Not sure where this person got this data.

I remember watching a documentary on one of the FK clubs in Germany and they would get a bunch of emails each day of girls wanting to work but they pretty much black balled any from Romania do to the fact that they are usually being trafficked.

Some other shows that I've seen when they catch a girl and ask her about being forced to be a prostitute they sometimes seem to go along with it so they are treated as a victim instead of being prosecuted. I think it's a very difficult thing to verify without a lot of investigating. It's similar to a girl claiming that she was sexually assaulted but the guy says it was consensual. Hard to know the truth.

[WombatEd2]

Supposedly Colombia and Thailand are the top two countries for human trafficking.

The last time I looked into an allegation like this, it turned out that the anti-prostitution activists had generated the numbers they wanted by counting prostitution ads, with no attempt to discern between trafficking victims and willing prostitutes.

Figures don't lie, but liars do figure.

[LuvMexicanas]

Well I think the "what if" factor is the main reason many people don't do a lot of things. Driving while drunk can not only change your life if caught but what if you kill somebody. Yet everyday it happens, only a very small amount get caught.

I think with social media now it's very hard for a police force to spend the time on trying to find out what's going on. In my younger days I went to a few girls in the US even had one come to my house. I think a semi intelligent person could easily find a girl and not get caught. Before with Craig's list LE had an easier way to find girls or have sting operations. If you have an Onlyfans girl that does sex acts on video I don't think your going to be busted by her working for LE. Same with SA girls that might only go on dates with you a couple of times just to see if your normal before bringing up having sex for an arranged fee.

But I understand most guys being nervous about getting caught.

You're over generalizing the issue. Everything is "what if", so it's pointless to say that. Also, your analogy with drunk driving is off base because a drunk driving charge has nowhere near the destructive effect of a prostitution charge on a man's career and marriage if married. Sure, you said what if you kill someone. Are you really comparing homicide with paying for pussy? That's an even worse analogy.

[TjBrazil]

Well I think the "what if" factor is the main reason many people don't do a lot of things. Driving while drunk can not only change your life if caught but what if you kill somebody. Yet everyday it happens, only a very small amount get caught.

I think with social media now it's very hard for a police force to spend the time on trying to find out what's going on. In my younger days I went to a few girls in the US even had one come to my house. I think a semi intelligent person could easily find a girl and not get caught. Before with Craig's list LE had an easier way to find girls or have sting operations. If you have an Onlyfans girl that does sex acts on video I don't think your going to be busted by her working for LE. Same with SA girls that might only go on dates with you a couple of times just to see if your normal before bringing up having sex for an arranged fee.

But I understand most guys being nervous about getting caught.

This girl I used to work with recently lost her husband to a drunk driver. Ran a red light. Two kids. Dumbest most avoidable crime there is. Just call a Uber or taxi.

[Sol12]

Just check Google "US prostitution arrests". A lot of sting operations. The most arrested guys are in Polk County, Florida, regularly around 100 guys every few months. Since around 1914, when prostitution was banned in the US, the prostitution policy in the US has been completely wrong. Any state can legalize prostitution. For example, California has no problem with homeless tents in downtown San Francisco, LOS Angeles, San Diego, with thieves robbing stores, poisoned beaches and air from Imperial Beach to Coronado, housing and drug crises, etc. , but OMG, if you want a happy ending in a massage parlor. Then they will arrest you.

I think you answered your own question with the example of CA and letting the homelessness and open drug use get to what it is now. They stepped back from enforcing the laws without realizing all the negative consequences that come with it.

As a society we have moved on from 1914 and women being more involved in the workplace and also not so dependent on men so the need to be a prostitute is far less now. I think most use it now for easy money and a certain lifestyle and a certain amount being trafficked or drug addiction.

[Sol12]

So what is worse keeping it illegal and all those negative aspects or legal similar to Costa, Europe etc. ? Is it selfish to look at it this way?

Legalized in Amsterdam many years ago to keep it at least all in one area with some controls. Until recently seemed to be the balance now I've heard they are thinking about relocation the red light zone away from the city center.

I'm sure your a nice person and want to think your helping these girls but in reality you have no idea if your supporting some guy taking advantage of them or more likely them being drug addicts.

Just because it's legal in a country doesn't mean girls aren't doing it against their will. Supposedly Colombia and Thailand are the top two countries for human trafficking. So how as a tourist are you supposed to know which girls fall into that category.

Lots of girls in Tijuana are drug addicts. So are we as clients really helping them? For us we just show up have sex and leave without knowing what is truly happening in their lives. That's what I mean about being selfish.

[Sol12]

Price is a factor for many guys agreed. However, regardless how remote the possibility of getting busted might be, it exists. And for guys with a lot to lose, simply being arrested (forget whether convicted or not) will bring a well constructed life crashing down.

Well I think the "what if" factor is the main reason many people don't do a lot of things. Driving while drunk can not only change your life if caught but what if you kill somebody. Yet everyday it happens, only a very small amount get caught.

I think with social media now it's very hard for a police force to spend the time on trying to find out what's going on. In my younger days I went to a few girls in the US even had one come to my house. I think a semi intelligent person could easily find a girl and not get caught. Before with Craig's list LE had an easier way to find girls or have sting operations. If you have an Onlyfans girl that does sex acts on video I don't think your going to be busted by her working for LE. Same with SA girls that might only go on dates with you a couple of times just to see if your normal before bringing up having sex for an arranged fee.

But I understand most guys being nervous about getting caught.

[StRobert]

Had a big sweep around here recently, the mongers weren't just charged with that but they added human trafficking to the charges. Quite a few white collar dudes went down. SA is probably the safest option.

Just check Google "US prostitution arrests". A lot of sting operations. The most arrested guys are in Polk County, Florida, regularly around 100 guys every few months. Since around 1914, when prostitution was banned in the US, the prostitution policy in the US has been completely wrong. Any state can legalize prostitution. For example, California has no problem with homeless tents in downtown San Francisco, LOS Angeles, San Diego, with thieves robbing stores, poisoned beaches and air from Imperial Beach to Coronado, housing and drug crises, etc. , but OMG, if you want a happy ending in a massage parlor. Then they will arrest you.

[TjBrazil]

Racketeering "protection money" is pretty much the rage in Mexico because it is such a low priority crime for LEO. I would imagine that a high profile business such as a sex bar would need to pay many groups off, including politicians. I am guessing that Adelitas failed to pay the wrong groups off and were retaliated against. I find it difficult to believe that Adelitas with its reputation for fat old chicas, employed minors and HK with its reputation for young spinners did not.

How much money do you think HK pays a month to all the cartel, police and politicians. Do you think that is the reason they are so aggressive with selling everything.

[TjBrazil]

Price is a factor for many guys agreed. However, regardless how remote the possibility of getting busted might be, it exists. And for guys with a lot to lose, simply being arrested (forget whether convicted or not) will bring a well constructed life crashing down.

That's why I don't pay in the US. All my jobs had serious background checks and any prostitution arrest would have been career ending. Some cities will have stings and put the picture of everyone arrested on their website. LOL.

[TjBrazil]

So what is worse keeping it illegal and all those negative aspects or legal similar to Costa, Europe etc. ? Is it selfish to look at it this way?

Legalized in Amsterdam many years ago to keep it at least all in one area with some controls. Until recently seemed to be the balance now I've heard they are thinking about relocation the red light zone away from the city center.

Why doesn't the government just set up a website where all the girls get tested and have real pictures. The street scene is so trashy.

[Cocr Brotheler]

So what is worse keeping it illegal and all those negative aspects or legal similar to Costa, Europe etc. ? Is it selfish to look at it this way?

Legalized in Amsterdam many years ago to keep it at least all in one area with some controls. Until recently seemed to be the balance now I've heard they are thinking about relocation the red light zone away from the city center.

[Robert Goulet]

Price is a factor for many guys agreed. However, regardless how remote the possibility of getting busted might be, it exists. And for guys with a lot to lose, simply being arrested (forget whether convicted or not) will bring a well constructed life crashing down.

Had a big sweep around here recently, the mongers weren't just charged with that but they added human trafficking to the charges. Quite a few white collar dudes went down. SA is probably the safest option.

[LuvMexicanas]

Besides between X, SA, Onlyfans if guys want to pay a girl for sex in the US it's not that hard to find. I think many just don't want to pay the price they ask.

Price is a factor for many guys agreed. However, regardless how remote the possibility of getting busted might be, it exists. And for guys with a lot to lose, simply being arrested (forget whether convicted or not) will bring a well constructed life crashing down.