Adelita Bar Reports

[Phordphan]

You can say it anyway you like that doesn't get you in trouble with Jackson...

It seems we (some of us, funny how ONE becomes ALL but that's for another thread) get a bad rap with Latin women, save for Brasil I hear and maybe Columbia.

Maybe its that upwardly mobile thing, then again, I have always maintained that Latinas prefer Caucasians firstly, if that isn't an option their own men and I would think Blacks are a very distant 3rd. I would be better off finding a local chica, no language barrier and judging from the fair amount of Latino/Black children in California, Texas and New York, I think its fair to say maybe I should stay home.

But if my past success has taught me anything, its basically the FAT ones want you first and you have to "dig" for the ones that are mostly thin and have no children.

Something I have lost interest in doing, as I have lost interest in American based women all together for the most part.

The "Hot" ones weather its Eva Longoria or Angie Martinez DO like Black Men...

But they aren't FOB, American born for whatever that's worth.

I actually do know one or two girls but they live off the Texas/Mexican boarder and they are now both involved.

Oh well I just thought I would ask, hardly an indictment of TJ and I find it hard to believe that Caucasians actually ASK some chica in the middle of trying to work a deal asking "Hey I got a Black buddy up in San Diego, do you know anybody that would be interested in him"

Thanks for your reply however.

I think FJL's advice may be pretty good.

I'm not black, but I see a fair number of black guys wandering around the zona. I don't know if they get hassled more than us white guys, or not.

But, the appearance thing does seem to be important. If you're dressed gangsta or seriously ghetto, I'm sure you'd get hassled more than if you're wearing slacks, or jeans, or whatever, a regular shirt, no sideways hats, baggy clothing, etc. I'm sure the cops are on the lookout not only for easy marks, but real gangsters. I figure if you don't look the part you improve your odds.

As far as the girls go, I really don't think it's a racial thing. Many countries I've visited, Mexico included, just think light skin is "prettier" than dark skin, for lack of a better term. So, whether it's TJ or Thailand, you may encounter more resistance than encountered by us pasty-hued guys, but I don't think it would be intolerable. Just my opinion, FWIW.

Actually, to be honest, the only consistent things I've heard from the girls all over, concerning black customers, are size complaints. No, seriously. Sadly, it's a problem I don't have, and am not likely to have!

I think the best thing is to give it a try. Dress conservatively (good advice for everybody) and go to have fun.

PP

[Efjayel]

As a black guy, yes you can expect things to be a little more difficult, from the cops to the chicas. Some black guys I've seen in the zona where nicely/preppy like dressed. And these guys where doing a lot better with the chicas than the black guys dressed gangster like.

Not to mention that the thugs where easy targets for the police. I saw a few of them being patted down. This included a black guy that was just dressed average. For black dudes I recommend you stay out of the Zona streets and inside the bars as much as possible.

[Beverly Hills]

"Do Black folk have any problems with Chicas down there?"

Well, how shall I phrase this? The Latinas I've met are none too fond of bruthas but YMMV. Good Luck.

One girl the other night there told me she doesn't like black men because their cocks are TOO big and she is small and it hurts. LOL.

My guess is that if you are kind to the girl and treat with her respect, you would be welcomed.

And maybe if you are "well endowed", don't pick the smallest girl in the place.
;-)

[DJ FourMoney]

"Do Black folk have any problems with Chicas down there?"

Well, how shall I phrase this? The Latinas I've met are none too fond of bruthas but YMMV. Good Luck.

You can say it anyway you like that doesn't get you in trouble with Jackson...

It seems we (some of us, funny how ONE becomes ALL but that's for another thread) get a bad rap with Latin women, save for Brasil I hear and maybe Columbia.

Maybe its that upwardly mobile thing, then again, I have always maintained that Latinas prefer Caucasians firstly, if that isn't an option their own men and I would think Blacks are a very distant 3rd. I would be better off finding a local chica, no language barrier and judging from the fair amount of Latino/Black children in California, Texas and New York, I think its fair to say maybe I should stay home.

But if my past success has taught me anything, its basically the FAT ones want you first and you have to "dig" for the ones that are mostly thin and have no children.

Something I have lost interest in doing, as I have lost interest in American based women all together for the most part.

The "Hot" ones weather its Eva Longoria or Angie Martinez DO like Black Men...

But they aren't FOB, American born for whatever that's worth.

I actually do know one or two girls but they live off the Texas/Mexican boarder and they are now both involved.

Oh well I just thought I would ask, hardly an indictment of TJ and I find it hard to believe that Caucasians actually ASK some chica in the middle of trying to work a deal asking "Hey I got a Black buddy up in San Diego, do you know anybody that would be interested in him"

Thanks for your reply however.

[Thatdude]

What chicas are you talking about? Those that have black hair and have tans do not qualify down there in Alabama or wherever you seem to be from.

[Dornyone]

"Do Black folk have any problems with Chicas down there?"

Well, how shall I phrase this? The Latinas I've met are none too fond of bruthas but YMMV. Good Luck.

[DJ FourMoney]

I've been down to Mexico once or twice but not for mongering.

I havnen't had sex since I returned to the US from my trip to Europe, way too much effort for little in return, so I am swearing off American women for the time being.

Since my experience is based on the FKK's I visited in Germany, I felt that Adelitas might be the ideal place for me.

When would be the best time to go?

My work hours are flexible enough I can go during the mid-week if the men to women ratio is better. I went to an FKK during mid-day and it was empty just a few guys, ratio was about 3-1 and alot of bored faces..lol

But I got excellent services and two shots on goal with a nice German girl, bit of GFE mixed with PSE.

So based on that experience mid-week might be a good idea.

Disagree?

With gas prices being what they are, I'm located in the SFV area of Los Angeles and my car is much too nice to park near the boarder, I think taking the bus is very acceptable. I see Greyhound has affordable rates - $30-40 roundtrip (according to the post in this thread anyway)

Im strictly an English speaker, my Spanish isn't non-existant but I don't know enough to even hold a minor conv, so I won't bother trying.

I'm also a Brotha, do Black folk have any problems with Chicas down there? I woudn't think so, since the most important color is GREEN but what about harasment by the police and stuff like that? I am street smart and hardly stupid, I also don't drink or smoke the cheeba-cheeba so I'll be clear headed enough to know if something is about to go down and if I should do my Carl Lewis impersonation or not.

Any insight is wecome, thanks!

[Yagami Light]

OK. So, in other words, for EVERY night EVERY girl is on the hook for $80, payable to the bar. She can work that off via her commission on drinks.

So, EVERY night she must, at a minimum, either hustle 20 drinks or do 1 arriba and hustle 5 drinks before she turns a profit. Every night, 5 days a week.

Sorry, I still don't buy it. The numbers aren't there, the economics aren't there.

First, there are way too many girls, and way too few customers, to reasonably assure 2 arribas EVERY night (the point where you would turn a $40 profit assuming no drinks), let alone 20+ drinks. During busy nights the more popular girls can do well, but not all of them. During slow weekdays, nobody does well.

Second, if you're a local, live in the local economy and pay local prices, $80 is still a good chunk of money. I have a hard time believing that all the girls are willing to risk $400 a week ($80 x 5 days), just to work at AB. There are other bars in TJ that don't have such a draconian policy (assuming they do, in fact, have this policy).

So, I remain skeptical.

PP

If I remember correctly, girls are charge 75 dollars to work per night, wether is ficha money or their own money. Since the economy is slow and the passports issue business have gone down, so I guess been skeptical is normal. Girls are aware of this since they spend more time there then us, correct me if I'm wrong >.>, they will rather just come to work on friday and saturdays but the manager wouldn't allow this. If they want to work friday and saturday they must also come 3 more days per week, I know a girl that is require to work 6 days a week because she skip a lot of slow days. Also she show on a friday and they wouldnt let her in and was ask to come sunday instead if she wanted to work.

[Beverly Hills]

OK. So, in other words, for EVERY night EVERY girl is on the hook for $80, payable to the bar. She can work that off via her commission on drinks.

So, EVERY night she must, at a minimum, either hustle 20 drinks or do 1 arriba and hustle 5 drinks before she turns a profit. Every night, 5 days a week.

Sorry, I still don't buy it. The numbers aren't there, the economics aren't there.

First, there are way too many girls, and way too few customers, to reasonably assure 2 arribas EVERY night (the point where you would turn a $40 profit assuming no drinks), let alone 20+ drinks. During busy nights the more popular girls can do well, but not all of them. During slow weekdays, nobody does well.

Second, if you're a local, live in the local economy and pay local prices, $80 is still a good chunk of money. I have a hard time believing that all the girls are willing to risk $400 a week ($80 x 5 days), just to work at AB. There are other bars in TJ that don't have such a draconian policy (assuming they do, in fact, have this policy).

So, I remain skeptical.

PP

I can call one of my new "friends" tomorrow to confirm but this is what one of them told me and she has no reason to lie to me. She said if its very dead, they may only make $60. Sometimes 200-300 and on a busy weekend 700-800. On the other hand another one, who is one of the busiest there and really hustles told me she tries to make 1, 000 a night if not more. A couple of these gals and I have spoken on the phone every day and I actually to an extent trust what they tell me with regards to their income and their work situations (I know what some of you are thinking, and yes, I get it.). If you want me to clarify with one of them tomorrow, I gladly will. Remember that these girls work 12 hour shifts. Some of them dance as well and I've seen quite a few bills thrown their way when they dance, including 20's or 100's from nutcases like myself. The dancers have 3 dance shifts a night. So, if they crank out a client the first few hours of their 12 hour shift, they've already paid the rent. Everything after that is pocketed. They keep everything they make upstairs. From what I gather, it also seems that Adelita's is THE best place for these girls to work and they pay a price to work there. There seems to be some rules for working. Such as, they can't enter after a certain time (I think one told me 9 pm? But don't quote me on that time). Meaning they can't just come for a few hours of creme de la creme time, make their dough and split.

[Phordphan]

Sorry, let me clarify. The bar keeps HALF of the $8 drink. The girl is responsible for the other half. X 20.

OK. So, in other words, for EVERY night EVERY girl is on the hook for $80, payable to the bar. She can work that off via her commission on drinks.

So, EVERY night she must, at a minimum, either hustle 20 drinks or do 1 arriba and hustle 5 drinks before she turns a profit. Every night, 5 days a week.

Sorry, I still don't buy it. The numbers aren't there, the economics aren't there.

First, there are way too many girls, and way too few customers, to reasonably assure 2 arribas EVERY night (the point where you would turn a $40 profit assuming no drinks), let alone 20+ drinks. During busy nights the more popular girls can do well, but not all of them. During slow weekdays, nobody does well.

Second, if you're a local, live in the local economy and pay local prices, $80 is still a good chunk of money. I have a hard time believing that all the girls are willing to risk $400 a week ($80 x 5 days), just to work at AB. There are other bars in TJ that don't have such a draconian policy (assuming they do, in fact, have this policy).

So, I remain skeptical.

PP

[Jddamigos]

The downside is more about the girls givin me a vip treatment and they ask me to take them out. They dont accept tips from me they always tell me to keep it so i can come back, and from time to time they dont charge me. But one time I decided to go w/ a new girl and my regular got mad and refuse to get a room w/ me, been like 6months now since I had gone up w/ her. Just feels like I'm goin there for a good time but I have to be on my guard to not get a girl mad. They do get jeoulus and latinas dont let it sly so easily.

Interesting. Can girls really refuse to get a room with a customer? Did you try to ask her again in the past 6 months? What kind of excuse does she give you?

[Jddamigos]

Can't say that I'm new to AB been there past 4 months like 2x a month. I'm really picky (just like buying a fruit in a market, who does not want the shiniest apple they can find.) Long story short there are times that I was just there for drinks and to wait for my "regular" friends because there just wasn't someone there that catches my eye. Anyone have any good suggestions. Other than Claudia lol. I think my friends had her one too many times. I'm all about young, good facial features, and definitely a Ass man. Granted there is someone I want to take the whole night out. What are the rules, fee's etc? Is there a bouncer following you guys around all day?

P.S never heard of a girl name Francia, where does she normally stand. I think the girls towards the back walls by the Mens room are the hottest?

What is GFE, TLN?

How do you guys find out how the pay plan is layed out for these girls?

Sorry for the newbie questions.

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[HopelessSinner]

Strolled into AB on Sat. nite. Saw many familiar faces including Claudia, Jessica, Esmerelda and a few others. there were so many hotties i couldn't make up my mind on which ones to choose??!! too many chicas and not enuf jism to go around! i settled on a few and was not dissapointed! it was one of the better nites i have had there in a while. anyone know if HK has changed any if at all after adding new entrance off of Coahuila? has layout changed?

[Yiyo1]

Does anyone know Mariana from Guadalajara?

[Efjayel]

No i dont live in Beverly Hills. But I figure if you reside in a rich city you have the money to splurge on a three day trip.

I'd do the same if I had that kind of cash.