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  1. #2792

    Variables

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackie888  [View Original Post]
    In my opinion, the girls remembers the regulars and provide those with better service and pricing.
    A lot of variables like looks age ethnicity language skills generosity negotiation skills ymmv plays into service levels. Some Chick's are see#nt $ and despise their occupations or tricks. Some Chick's feel their superior to johns.

  2. #2791
    Quote Originally Posted by OnceSailor  [View Original Post]
    On my last trip I stopped in to Adelitas and HK just for a drink on several nights. (GF was busy and I had some hours to kill in the evening.) So just pretty much had a few beers while observing the bar scene. One of the things I noticed is that at Adelitas the girls are "shark-like", checking out all the customers as you walk in and around, looking for prey. AT HK it seems to be the opposite, with the guys being the sharks, looking for easy prey. Thought it was interesting, since they are so close together, but so different in atmosphere.
    Yes, but HK girls trying the $80 movement.

  3. #2790
    Quote Originally Posted by ScottHall  [View Original Post]
    Wouldn't it be more profitable to just provide good service and make easy money from regulars and also tourists? It just seems like common sense, a rip off girl's client base is limited to only rooking tourists. It also seems like a lot of work to keep trying to hustle guys over and over at a low percentage. Not only that, if a guy feels like he's gotten taken he might not return to the club again. So less people bringing their money to the club is bad business for all of them.
    In my opinion, the girls remembers the regulars and provide those with better service and pricing.

  4. #2789

    Adelitas and HK

    On my last trip I stopped in to Adelitas and HK just for a drink on several nights. (GF was busy and I had some hours to kill in the evening.) So just pretty much had a few beers while observing the bar scene. One of the things I noticed is that at Adelitas the girls are "shark-like", checking out all the customers as you walk in and around, looking for prey. AT HK it seems to be the opposite, with the guys being the sharks, looking for easy prey. Thought it was interesting, since they are so close together, but so different in atmosphere.

  5. #2788
    Quote Originally Posted by ScottHall  [View Original Post]
    Wouldn't it be more profitable to just provide good service and make easy money from regulars and also tourists? It just seems like common sense, a rip off girl's client base is limited to only rooking tourists. It also seems like a lot of work to keep trying to hustle guys over and over at a low percentage. Not only that, if a guy feels like he's gotten taken he might not return to the club again. So less people bringing their money to the club is bad business for all of them.
    You write like a man who is a professional and wants long term repeat customers for his business and career. These girls don't think like that and they are well aware that most customers want variety. They don't expect to find men who will repeat with them many times. They want cash and they want it now. Less concerned about next week, next month, and next year.

  6. #2787
    Quote Originally Posted by ScottHall  [View Original Post]
    Wouldn't it be more profitable to just provide good service and make easy money from regulars and also tourists? It just seems like common sense, a rip off girl's client base is limited to only rooking tourists. It also seems like a lot of work to keep trying to hustle guys over and over at a low percentage. Not only that, if a guy feels like he's gotten taken he might not return to the club again. So less people bringing their money to the club is bad business for all of them.
    I think it would depend on the clientele base. I have no clue what the ratio is but I do wonder how many regulars there are vs tourists or rare visitors. Also, any one chica has to compete with 70 others in HK, streets full of other willing chicas, escorts, etc. I don't like it but I can understand the aggressiveness. On the other hand, they should realize, one trip arriba = a weekly wage in Tijuana. I say that not to mock the situation, which is sad. But these chicas have an amazing opportunity to live fairly lavish lifestyle relative to others. So they'd be wise not to shoot the golden cow.

  7. #2786
    Wouldn't it be more profitable to just provide good service and make easy money from regulars and also tourists? It just seems like common sense, a rip off girl's client base is limited to only rooking tourists. It also seems like a lot of work to keep trying to hustle guys over and over at a low percentage. Not only that, if a guy feels like he's gotten taken he might not return to the club again. So less people bringing their money to the club is bad business for all of them.

  8. #2785
    Quote Originally Posted by HorseTrader  [View Original Post]
    I once went into an American strip bar with a group of buddies. The place was much like Hong Kong, except they sold $30 lap dances instead of $70 sex. Half of us were strip bar veterans and half were completely new to the game. We were each quickly approached by girls wanting lap dances. The veterans were immune to their charms but the rookies gave in. Within 30 minutes the girls drained the wallets of the rookies in our group.

    Without their aggressive actions, each of those girls is just another piece of scenery on the landscape. With that behavior, she stands a better chance of making money. If it works 1 time in 20 attempts, it is worth her effort. The girls will continue until it doesn't work any longer.
    Very true. I'm not a newbie to the game but hardly a grizzled vet, either. I have been susceptible to that approach. This upcoming trip, I am going to turn down the first 2 every night just on principle. Just hoping they are 7's, not 10's. LOL.

  9. #2784

    Aggressive girls

    Quote Originally Posted by TheTallMan  [View Original Post]
    To me and many others I have never understood why they make this pitch, it is a complete turn-off. I wonder where they think that this approach works, are Mexican men turned on with this?

    TTM.
    I once went into an American strip bar with a group of buddies. The place was much like Hong Kong, except they sold $30 lap dances instead of $70 sex. Half of us were strip bar veterans and half were completely new to the game. We were each quickly approached by girls wanting lap dances. The veterans were immune to their charms but the rookies gave in. Within 30 minutes the girls drained the wallets of the rookies in our group.

    Without their aggressive actions, each of those girls is just another piece of scenery on the landscape. With that behavior, she stands a better chance of making money. If it works 1 time in 20 attempts, it is worth her effort. The girls will continue until it doesn't work any longer.

  10. #2783

    AB approach.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheTallMan  [View Original Post]
    To me and many others I have never understood why they make this pitch, it is a complete turn-off. I wonder where they think that this approach works, are Mexican men turned on with this?

    TTM.
    As a newbie, I was not. I hadn't been in HK yet. Besides, I'm with many others. AB girls were no match for the talent at HK, other than being a little cheaper. But I'm sure a mechanical experience for sure. HK, at least, it's not dark, the hot, sexy women (taking a Solo line), there is no doubt. They are not as aggressive as AB, but I will pay an extra peso or 10 for those sexy women.

  11. #2782
    Quote Originally Posted by PdSuave  [View Original Post]
    My buddy and I (Baxter Slade) went in there for the tour during the daytime on a Saturday. Pretty women for sure, but the basic female responses.

    Buy me a drink. (todo esta bien por lo momento).

    Want to fuck me (see previous response).

    Adios (well, there's always HK).

    Translate to English the next time.

    A3
    To me and many others I have never understood why they make this pitch, it is a complete turn-off. I wonder where they think that this approach works, are Mexican men turned on with this?

    TTM.

  12. #2781

    So true about AB

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackie888  [View Original Post]
    It's funny that AB is darker in the day than it is at night, because they intentionally block out all lights to conceal their day shift chicas. Very often I only see shadows asking me to buy them a drink.
    My buddy and I (Baxter Slade) went in there for the tour during the daytime on a Saturday. Pretty women for sure, but the basic female responses.

    Buy me a drink. (todo esta bien por lo momento).

    Want to fuck me (see previous response).

    Adios (well, there's always HK).

    Translate to English the next time.

    A3

  13. #2780

    The personality test

    Ya. It's easy to fall in love with those 30 or so hot young girls hanging out in HK every night, who look nice, clean, sweet, healthy, pretty, sexy, fun.

    You can live with a woman for a few years and still really don't know her personality or the worst transgressions she can commit. It's a tall order to figure out Mexican girls' personalities without speaking the language in a fast meet. But there are body language and the subtle clues that you can rely on to improve the probability for good companies in bed.

    I would approach the girl I like, smiling, touching her, asking how she's doing and her name. If she smiles back and answers in relaxed, soft, natural, fun tone of voice, she's a good candidate. If she frowns, looks away, avoids the touch, pulls away, answers in fast, hurried tone, that implies she doesn't like me and will not be loving in bed. I would further inquire about her rates and the specifics I want and negotiate a little. If she's still smiling while responding to my proposal, she's a keeper. If she starts to frown, avoids my touch, gets mad, well, avoid her and find the next candidates.

    I usually avoid girls who cruise the bar aggressively seeking propinas. They usually deliver hard, hurried sessions with no feelings attached.

    Still have no good ways to find tight vs. Loose and nice vs. Rotten dead-fish pussies that would disgust me for weeks. Once I find a few good ones, I tend to repeat rather than risking sessions on non performers or offenders. Marilyn, Julianna, Sol, Sasha, Pasha, Krystal, Paola are a few popular girls who are nice, clean, happy, beautiful, giving good, loving sessions, the last 2 used to work in the alley, beautiful from head to toe, with tight, smooth, snug pussies and sweet, sexy personalities.

    The good news is, most Tijuana girls, in HK or on the streets, are fairly nice, sweet, gentle, patient, non aggressive, even shy. I have not been offended or insulted by any girl for my offers and negotiations, except Hashia, Sol's aggressive lesbian sister. Take the challenge and dive into combat to find girls who would give you the most exciting, most loving and most passionate sex in exhaustive sessions. Tijuana is probably one of the best places with high probability for success with low costs and low exposure to getting robbed or ripped.

    I don't mind if they play games to improve their incomes, as long as they are nice, sweet, gentle and not rude, ugly, angry.

    Quote Originally Posted by AthTrainer  [View Original Post]
    Went to hk, and fell, in love with 30 girls. All stunners, but could not get a feel for them, personality wise, or level of english.

    headed back to Ab. Saw my girl, again, now standing by the back bar. We get a booth, and order drinks.She seems loose, and seems to be acting some. Gets into it, and may have cum. Big, wet spot on sheet when done. Finished in CG. No hurry after. Get the knock. Room was very cool, BTW.

    We dress, I give her 80 she wants 90. Says 70 plus tip for good BBBJ. Intell her its normally 60, and gave her 10 tip. She never said how much. She drops her request to 85, I stay firm. Were arguing, but not aggressively. She threatens to get security. I tell her, go ahead. You just lost a repeat customer. I would have considered doing her tonight, for an HR. BJ was great, never did DATY, and wanted more kissing. We left the room, and wentt down separately. I'm sure if she sees me tonight, shell try me, again.

  14. #2779

    Ab

    Started my evening here about 830. Light crowd. Entrance to the new back room is now done. Better tvs. Place looks nice, but dark. 20 to 30 girls. Most are tall, and thick.

    Sat at the bar, front corner, by the dressing room. Had a couple hags approach. As bad as I've ever seen the girls. Did get a little better later. A few who danced were ok. Saw a shorter, thinner girl, with long, black curly hair. She danced on stage, looked ok, small nats.

    When she was done, and on her way to the dressing room, she stopped. Her butt fit between my legs well. Probably cause the hags made plenty room, LOL. She kissed, licked, tongued my ear, and asked me to suck her nipple, all for a dollar. I knew I could come back for her later.

    Went to hk, and fell, in love with 30 girls. All stunners, but could not get a feel for them, personality wise, or level of english. Walked the alley, stopped in Chicago, and headed back to Ab. Saw my girl, again, now standing by the back bar. We get a booth, and order drinks.

    She continues to kiss, lick my ear, with some on the lips, and some DFK. Decent English. 3 yo girl. Teaches kindegarden, smh. Keeps rubbing my dick. Asks, if I like to DATY. Enjoying just sitting there, so we do a second drink. She drank a little fast. Asked for 70. Kind of surprised me. Ab, Mon. Pm.

    We get a room, next to a Jacuzzi room. She was impressed with the jacuzzi she saw. We strip, and she asks if I want BBBJ. Sure, she says BBBJ only, and wants a tip. Np. She does a great, long BJ, with ball licking and sucking. Was afraid weed use all our time on BJ. Asks to FS. Starts with CG.

    She seems loose, and seems to be acting some. Gets into it, and may have cum. Big, wet spot on sheet when done. Finished in CG. No hurry after. Get the knock. Room was very cool, BTW.

    We dress, I give her 80 she wants 90. Says 70 plus tip for good BBBJ. Intell her its normally 60, and gave her 10 tip. She never said how much. She drops her request to 85, I stay firm. Were arguing, but not aggressively. She threatens to get security. I tell her, go ahead. You just lost a repeat customer. I would have considered doing her tonight, for an HR. BJ was great, never did DATY, and wanted more kissing. We left the room, and wentt down separately. I'm sure if she sees me tonight, shell try me, again.

  15. #2778

    Edecanes in front of Adelita and Chicago?

    Adlita has been doing OK with regular customers, who prefer a place to chill where traffic is less frantic than HK. If Adelita is employing edecanes now, that means they want to lure in more guys to boost business, perhaps to compete against the 2 cute edecanes in front of Chicago.

    Friday night I walked to the school girl corner for mariscos. Adelita opened the second door and had 2 guys out front, the huge Pancho Villa with a big sombrero and a tequila bottle, and an English-speaking mesero, teasing me to go in and check it out. The girls were laughing at the ribbing. I walked in. There were about 40 girls, a few young spinners and a few tall, lithe young girls worth boinking, but the light was dark, so it's difficult to be sure of the merchandise quality hehe.

    Pancho Villa and the dwarf mesero seem to spend most of their free time partying in HK, parking their faces in moist and fragrant crotches in HK. Where do HK meseros go on their vacations? The guys I know spend their vacation partying in the funnest place in Mexico, where else but the world-renown HK Club. Go figure hehehe.

    Quote Originally Posted by NingunoEspecial  [View Original Post]
    We didn't go in but passed by the place late afternoon earlier in the week and they had a couple of cute edecones out front dancing to get you in the door.

    Also noticed the door guys had a bottle of Hornitos out front but the music blasting out seemed HK level which was one reason we passed on a walk through. Always nice to see them put out a bit of effort to get you in the door however.

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