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10-29-21 16:18 #33129
Posts: 3801Originally Posted by Oakie [View Original Post]
And as you mention, so many guys are such cheap charlies, and have spent big bucks to get here, yet don't get how things work here, or in most other third world Countries as well.
Even just giving someone a 50 Peso tip for the server of your drinks is huge for them, and chump change for most guys.
I tip all the help where I'm staying in Sosua, and am treated like a King. And when a provider does a good job that I want to repeat with, I tip them as well.
It's like night and day if you grease the skids, and your "two cents" is worth way more than that in dividends.
Your preaching to the choir on this in my book.
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10-29-21 16:04 #33128
Posts: 5659I think I've read the first bad report of a Haitian in the DR. Not wanting to bathe. I'd hate to think the Haitians have started pulling shit in the DR. I really hate that leche papi shit those DR girls pull, really makes me angry. In my next visit to the DR I'm going to ask every girl I go with what part of the DR she's from, if Santiago its off to the zimmer as I can't remember ever having a bad service girl from there.
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10-29-21 15:56 #33127
Posts: 3801Sosua Is a Lazy Man's Mongering Venue
Originally Posted by Durandpaul [View Original Post]
I used to be a regular here many years ago, and the place has changed, now it's predominately African American mongers, tons and tons of Haitians around, more so than Dominicans at times, and changes in the mongering / meet-up venues.
So many changes over the years, and it was much more predictable with the Chicas, now much more business like than before, and what I've observed that goes on in Kings versus the street is very different when say Latinos and all the places on the Strip were alive and well with the Police not hassling and chasing after the girls like they do every night here.
I know there are good Chicas on the street to be had, but vettng them can be rough. And it appears that most of the guys that show up here are here for a long weekend, and throwing money around is not an issue and the Chicas now this. Hence I believe we are all perceived as walking ATM machines, with the Chicas trying to milk us of our money any way they can, buy them drinks, buy them food, and get our leche as rapidly as possible when in the room.
Sosua is a perfect fit for a lot of guys, can be like shooting fish in a barrel, and actually isn't a bad place to monger for guys with no other mongering experience in the world.
Yet lots of the older DR veterans have moved on to other destinations given the changes that have occurred here.
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10-29-21 11:26 #33126
Posts: 1908My two cents
After 12 years of visiting and living in Sosua I can tell you that a little common sense, and due diligence will prevent 99% of these rip off complaints.
Some guys put price ahead of quality. So they are always negotiating price on principle, whether it be a cab or moto ride, or a hotel toom, or a hooker. The locals pick up on that and it becomes a battle of wits, which always favours the providers.
The guys who shop around and negotiate everything from the cheapest room to the cheapest Cuba Libre, rarely develop a relationship to the providers, and the providers treat them as just numbers. Hotel and bar staff will go the extra mile for a regular customer, and it is a myth, that constantly arguing price is somehow "macho" and "respected", by the locals. By other cheap mongers, maybe, LOL.
Watch the locals, they know the intrinsic price of everything. Their transactions are straight forward, friendly, and nobody is walking away mad at the world.
I often get my lunch from the street barbeque. For me they charge 250 pesos, but my GF gets the same plate for 200. So I could stand there all day arguing and complaining about the "principle" of the thing, but it's easier to just let her pick up the lunch.
The whole country runs on bribes, propinas, tips. (TIPS = To Insure Prompt Service) Some bars don't pay their servers, who are happy to come in to a busy bar and rely on tips. It may not be "fair". But it is life.
And, when in Rome, as they say.
Now, you don't have to tip everybody you meet, but the wise use of tips to my regulars ensures, among other things, that my drink is on the table as soon as I walk in to my bars, that my moto guy, water bottle guy, publico driver puts me first on his list, and I can walk way from my bars saying, I'll pay you later. And I get extra towels and stuff from the cleaning lady. The night security guy is on my list too, so that when we bring the party back to my place, cedulas can be waived for regular friends.
If a guy is spending $thousands to get there from all over the world, tips are a negligible part of ensuring a smooth and happy stress free vacation.
Finally, taking a strange hooker off the street back to your room is always a risky business, so I would say get a cheap pre paid room, or a casa, where you can just walk out if things are not going well.
No need to wine and dine them, but a little conversation over a coke or a beer can work wonders to break the ice, and figure out the odds of a bad session.
And if things do go bad, first own it. You have made the bad choice! So like the OP say, suck it up and minimize the damage, and charge it up to experience. The folks you have developed a good relationship with in the bar, or the hotel, will likely take your side. There's absolutely no excuse for repeating your mistake.
Fact is, some guys are aggressive and militant by nature, they enjoy the adrenaline rush of confrontation, and they'll brag loudly to all, on how they beat "the system."
Meanwhile the smart hooker on the next bar stool who he has just insulted, is thinking how she can take this guy after a couple more Cuba Libres. LOL.
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10-29-21 11:17 #33125
Posts: 152Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]
No need to take a cab, no traffic, everything within 5 min walk, girl friendly hotels, girls everywhere, good food, good hotel prices.
However, sosua girls are huslers most won't stay passed the agreed time to chill with you. They are thinking about the next client. Anybody who wants GFE all the time shouldn't go to sosua.
BTW you will rarely see 1 or 2 guys buying bottles in the vip with 5 chicas. It is always 5 to 10 guys sharing too bottles and getting the attention in the club. Rap and Hiphop is taking over the world, we all need to get use to see guys working at walmart acting like rap stars for a weekend.
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10-29-21 07:58 #33124
Posts: 465Jajajajajaja
Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]
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10-29-21 04:47 #33123
Posts: 3700Originally Posted by Sammon [View Original Post]
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10-29-21 04:05 #33122
Posts: 3700Originally Posted by OldKool [View Original Post]
Guys go to Sosua because it's convenient and they don't have to know the language. You are correct about guys not getting girls properly IMO.
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10-29-21 03:38 #33121
Posts: 3801Good Points
Originally Posted by OldKool [View Original Post]
I agree with all your points, and the biggest red flag of all are the Chicas that are very aggressive as you have pointed out.
A lot of times when I'm interested in a Chica, and after interviewing her everything seems like a go, I will politely blow them off, say maybe later, thanks for your time and walk. I intentionally do this to see how they react, and if they get upset, and are angry, I'm glad I walked. However, if they are kind and polite and say thanks, I usually do an about face and take them.
Again good pointers and hopefully other's will follow them.
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10-29-21 01:51 #33120
Posts: 15940Originally Posted by OldKool [View Original Post]
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10-29-21 01:11 #33119
Posts: 3106Not Rocket science
The vaste majority of girls give great service. There is a reason 1000's of guys go to Sosua every year. Do not listen to guys who do not go to Sosua. It is not hard to see the hardcore girls and even most of them will give good service. The guys who get scammed often make basic mistakes that set them selves up. Not getting the price settled up front. Being drunk or high. Doing 3 some with girls you do not know. If you use basic common sence you avoid 90% of the problem girls and again they are the acceptions. Take a little time to talk to the the girl you are interested in. If she presures you to hard or seem desperate beware. Take your time when selectoing a girl there is no rush. The loner girls are often a little safer then then the girls in packs. Another warning sign are girls who promise everything upfront inclusding anal. These girls often get to the room and have differrent spin.
Originally Posted by Surfer500 [View Original Post]
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10-29-21 01:10 #33118
Posts: 3281Originally Posted by MrGogo [View Original Post]
Totally ruins the mood but what to do. Every once in a while you get lemons but cannot make lemonade with these.
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10-28-21 19:59 #33117
Posts: 3801Originally Posted by OldKool [View Original Post]
I am not going to be wining and dining any of the Strip Chicas beforehand as I don't believe Mr. E was proposing. I haven't mongered in Sosua for many years, and am just here for a break from Medellin for a month and it's totally different. I would of never attempted to discipline a Chica like the Haitian in Colombia. Most of the girls there carry knives, and if you were to take their Cedula and threaten not give it to them they would come after you and you could be in a very ugly situation.
However the bullshit I'm experiencing here, and am hearing from others is because this is a foreigners mongering destination versus a locals mongering destination. And the girls are used to all the foreigners, and they know how to work it, and most guys here don't have the experience, or language skills to deal with problem Chicas, let alone vet them like guys that live here.
In a perfect world, what your proposing trying to vet the Strip Chicas can be very challenging, especially guys that are only here for short periods of time. Kind of like a roll of the dice, or maybe Russian roulette, but things seems way worse than many years ago when I would spend months at a time here.
I agree with you that when things go South with a Chica its best to try to diffuse the situation as best you can without a scene.
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10-28-21 18:47 #33116
Posts: 15940Originally Posted by Xpartan [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by MadDin19 [View Original Post]
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10-28-21 18:42 #33115
Posts: 15940Originally Posted by Surfer500 [View Original Post]