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  1. #33576
    Quote Originally Posted by NamasteParis  [View Original Post]
    This sixth sense is generally developed with the ability to say 'no', or to just stay alone when nothing acceptable can be found. Some say we are 'choosy', but that's exactly what we want: best choice.
    I've never had difficulty saying 'no'. Its not only about looks, something may just not feel right about the woman. Sometimes the woman is so hot that even though there's something nagging my brain about her I still pull the trigger, then get a bad session; then I tell myself "You got what you deserve".

  2. #33575

    Funny thing

    When I was new to the board and to the Dominican Republic, I started posting and took a lot of criticism from many (some of whom are still posing to this day). But I hung tough. An OG that was living here contacted me on the back channel and took me under his wing and showed me different ways of doing things. I added them to skill set. I got past my differences with another OG and it has lead to a very fruitful relationship. Adding much to my skill set and we have had numerous exchanges that have helped me.

    My point is that when I was new OGs helped me and I learned from them. And even now I learn from OGs. But running down the new guy has never stopped up in here. That is why I am quick to give help to all that ask. Because I was new once. And now I am one of the most informative posters up in here!

    It should be noted that the best information that I receive comes from personal contacts. Many of whom do not even post up in here. So, new people, develop your own skills and techniques. But most importantly, build a network. To keep counsel and to have access to the chicas that provide the best sexual / social services that you like.

    Who up in here was not new at some point? But only the most pompous among us thinks they know everything. There are more than just few riding their own dick when they really should be letting the chicas do it. And I am going to add that I also learn from new people. They do things differently. Often have other ways of looking at things and are younger. The new guy of today is the one that is going to be posting the knowledge gems of tomorrow. I am an example of that.

    Lastly new people, note the biases of the individuals posting here. There are some that constantly post up in here but don't even like The Sue. Others who are on the fence. And those like me who like to visit, but who wouldn't want to live there at this time. And of course there are those that live there. As a south coast sexpat, I can tell you that writing from a "I live here experience" is very different than writing from a "I'm visiting experience".

    So new guys, get into the arena, learn from doing and post about it. Ignore the critics, because men in the arena know that they do not count.

    Why is this called the Sosua Reports Forum? It is more like the Sosua discussion Forum. That is why I post the majority of my experiences in The Sue in Grownmans Boom Boom Room. My posts to do not get lost in what amounts mostly to noise here and there is also intelligent discussion over there.

    This is SubCmdr. And I am a man in the arena!

  3. #33574
    Quote Originally Posted by CoolieHigh  [View Original Post]
    From what the scenarios you just brought up its the mongers fault for causing their own problems. See truth be told when you get a referral from an OG monger that knows what hes doing and things doesn't workout I put money its generally the guys fault. And we generally don't talk about it on here but its the reason why you and other OGs air on the side of caution in meeting up with dudes and or giving new guys advice that they come across. Because guys will come down there and lose their minds and act like idiots and then when things don't workout they looking at you. Meanwhile you giving them that old school Red Foxx saying, "You Big Dummy" I told you to NOT go with her. Makes NO sense to meet up with an OG Monger whose been doing this for decades to not listen to his counsel.

    But hey reminds me of a situation in Vegas. I worked the nightlife industry for years and know all the top folks as I got the juice. Had a big spender come in on new years eve as he brought in his whole family. This isn't his first rodeo so he knows folks as well but he only come into town maybe once a year. Hes throwing big money around so he figures he can get whatever he want done. Tells me on the low that hes trying to get his 19 yr old son into the club and that he got a fake ID. I said cool. Lets take this entrance they don't check like that. Hes feeling himself off the liquor and since hes the man with money hes going to do it his way. He led the group to the other entry point and sure enough the security spoted that the ID was fake and just like that there night was ruined with his son almost being kicked out the entire Casino.

    Meanwhile I just give my client the Martin Lawrence look and quote off bad boys 3 to Will Smith. "You Dumb Ass".
    Yeah, true enough.

    We all live and learn.

    Nobody is born with the knowledge of how things work in Sosua, or any other place. It's just accumulated wisdon, from those who have been there, done that.

    I got my kick start from guys like you and Mr Gogo years ago in this forum. Gave me a fast track on Sosua before I ever got there. Saved me from making a lot of newboe mistakes.

    That and having two long term relationships a with local ex hooker, and my current bi chick, and her friends.

    It's all about listening to the guys you want to roll like, and ignoring the others.

    But I could never party like you Coolie! LOL.

    It's the age thing. I used to fuck anything that moved. Now my head runs things now, not my dick, but I'm happy with that.

    Look forward to catching up with ya soon!

  4. #33573

    Don't Be A Dumb Ass

    Quote Originally Posted by Oakie  [View Original Post]
    Same with a visiting pal, who got caught by the hard core sniffer, a street puta who's always hanging round our group. She wanted 500 P for a blow job across the street. I warned him, but this newbie had had a few drinks and went with her. She apparently gave him a bad time, and he came back at me "I thought she was a friend of yours?

    This is the same guy who wanted to fuck my GF's baby sitter from PP, on her only visit to Sosua. She'd never had a foreign dick in her life. She asked me if it was OK, so I said, sure. He wanted to know where he could do the deed. He was staying at CM AI, so I got a moto and sent them to Dulce Secreta. They came back an hour later, him smiling, she's not smiling so I say did he pay you? She shook her head. I asked him, he said no, she didn't ask, but I paid the moto, the room and the beer. So I put him straight and demanded he give her the going rate. 2 strikes with me, and he's out!
    From what the scenarios you just brought up its the mongers fault for causing their own problems. See truth be told when you get a referral from an OG monger that knows what hes doing and things doesn't workout I put money its generally the guys fault. And we generally don't talk about it on here but its the reason why you and other OGs air on the side of caution in meeting up with dudes and or giving new guys advice that they come across. Because guys will come down there and lose their minds and act like idiots and then when things don't workout they looking at you. Meanwhile you giving them that old school Red Foxx saying, "You Big Dummy" I told you to NOT go with her. Makes NO sense to meet up with an OG Monger whose been doing this for decades to not listen to his counsel.

    But hey reminds me of a situation in Vegas. I worked the nightlife industry for years and know all the top folks as I got the juice. Had a big spender come in on new years eve as he brought in his whole family. This isn't his first rodeo so he knows folks as well but he only come into town maybe once a year. Hes throwing big money around so he figures he can get whatever he want done. Tells me on the low that hes trying to get his 19 yr old son into the club and that he got a fake ID. I said cool. Lets take this entrance they don't check like that. Hes feeling himself off the liquor and since hes the man with money hes going to do it his way. He led the group to the other entry point and sure enough the security spoted that the ID was fake and just like that there night was ruined with his son almost being kicked out the entire Casino.

    Meanwhile I just give my client the Martin Lawrence look and quote off bad boys 3 to Will Smith. "You Dumb Ass".

  5. #33572

    Quote of the Year

    Quote Originally Posted by GrownMan1  [View Original Post]
    The lion doesn't hunt the rat. Even though it's a quick meal; it's not worth the Energy and Money exerted to obtain the meal.
    This is probably the best quote of the year. Every man in regards to dealing with women period should have this quote on his wall.

  6. #33571
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Having been in this activity now for 50 years I have developed a sixth sense to determine whether a lay would be good or not. it.
    That's the maturity level that you have of the hunt. As experience hunters we learned that some game are not worth the energy used or required to deal with it.

    The lion doesn't hunt the rat. Even though it's a quick meal; it's not worth the Energy and money exerted to obtain the meal. That's how I see a lot of the new breed. They chase after the quick meals that's ready available for them in the Su.

    I can't knock them because you have to eat something. Meanwhile when I go to the water hole in the Su; I'm not looking for rats. It's nice to see them there because they are a crucial part of the environment's make up. There was the time I too found my pleasures in their consumption.

    Usually with time our skills become sharper, taste is more required, and experiences dictates how we move. Positive progress. Whatever your choices of operating; I hope everyone has positive progression in this hobby.

  7. #33570
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Having been in this activity now for 50 years I have developed a sixth sense to determine whether a lay would be good or not. Something in her expression, is her smile fake or genuine? How is her body language? Does she lean away from me or does she come closer? What does she say? Is she too eager? Where I have been wrong is thinking a girl would be just ok then she turns out to be stellar. Where I am now I have no choice with new girls, I go with an escort that's sent to me. In a club where I can chat with the girl I have not chosen a provider not to my liking in many years. Similarly in a casa. Sometimes, when I'm in the mood, I choose a stunner oblivious to what sort of service I'd get. Now, however, in a club or casa, when I'm seeking good service I'll generally get it.
    This sixth sense is generally developed with the ability to say 'no', or to just stay alone when nothing acceptable can be found. Some say we are 'choosy', but that's exactly what we want: best choice.

  8. #33569

    Subcmdr makes an error

    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Having been in this activity now for 50 years I have developed a sixth sense to determine whether a lay would be good or not. Something in her expression, is her smile fake or genuine? How is her body language? Does she lean away from me or does she come closer? What does she say? Is she too eager? Where I have been wrong is thinking a girl would be just ok then she turns out to be stellar. Where I am now I have no choice with new girls, I go with an escort that's sent to me. In a club where I can chat with the girl I have not chosen a provider not to my liking in many years. Similarly in a casa. Sometimes, when I'm in the mood, I choose a stunner oblivious to what sort of service I'd get. Now, however, in a club or casa, when I'm seeking good service I'll generally get it.
    I stand corrected. Even though I am a man in the arena, I do not have the advanced skill set that you possess as a experienced man.

    What I should have wrote is: "I cannot tell if I am going to get good service just by looking at a chica". I would definitely take a referral from you. LOL!

  9. #33568

    Success

    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Having been in this activity now for 50 years I have developed a sixth sense to determine whether a lay would be good or not. Something in her expression, is her smile fake or genuine? How is her body language? Does she lean away from me or does she come closer? What does she say? Is she too eager? Where I have been wrong is thinking a girl would be just ok then she turns out to be stellar. Where I am now I have no choice with new girls, I go with an escort that's sent to me. In a club where I can chat with the girl I have not chosen a provider not to my liking in many years. Similarly in a casa. Sometimes, when I'm in the mood, I choose a stunner oblivious to what sort of service I'd get. Now, however, in a club or casa, when I'm seeking good service I'll generally get it.
    If you could bottle up your selection success and sell it, you would have many takers. That said, I would not be one of them since I'm quite happy with my own methods.

  10. #33567
    Quote Originally Posted by SubCmdr  [View Original Post]
    ......The problem with your supposition is that you cannot know the level of service your are going to receive by just looking a chica.....
    Having been in this activity now for 50 years I have developed a sixth sense to determine whether a lay would be good or not. Something in her expression, is her smile fake or genuine? How is her body language? Does she lean away from me or does she come closer? What does she say? Is she too eager? Where I have been wrong is thinking a girl would be just ok then she turns out to be stellar. Where I am now I have no choice with new girls, I go with an escort that's sent to me. In a club where I can chat with the girl I have not chosen a provider not to my liking in many years. Similarly in a casa. Sometimes, when I'm in the mood, I choose a stunner oblivious to what sort of service I'd get. Now, however, in a club or casa, when I'm seeking good service I'll generally get it.

  11. #33566
    Quote Originally Posted by CoolieHigh  [View Original Post]
    Its not an exact science. In that one situation with your boy he may have to chalked that up as an loss but because of your knowledge and experience in dealing with variety of different women, I put money the future women you refer to him 8 times out of ten he come up winning.
    Ain't that a fact. LOL.

    I can't count the times I've been asked to refer a visitor. Both "acquaintances" from home, and even complete strangers.

    In my enthusiasm for Sosua I used to try and help. I'd help my local ladies make a little money, and the guys get laid. It worked only about 50% of the time. When it didn't, they'd both be on may case! So I quit that a long time ago. Not interested, except in the odd rare case when a trusted "friend" or relative (you know who you are) might ask, and you really want to see him have a good time.

    But, as I. And Mr. E says, YMMV. That should be on a sign hung up in every bar! LOL.

    One scenario I used to face all the time is when a group of us are having a good time on the beach, or in a bar, we get the usual "sniffers" hanging around. They work their way into the group, even take over the conversation with grand stories ("I'm an International wine merchant" is one I heard recently, he was arguing about his tab later, LOL), and try to pick off the chicas. Could even be my GF, doesn't matter. Hey it's a public place, right? And we are all used to that, so we'd leave them to make their own deal.

    If it didn't work out, the next day the chica complains, "I thought he was a friend of yours)".

    Same with a visiting pal, who got caught by the hard core sniffer, a street puta who's always hanging round our group. She wanted 500 P for a blow job across the street. I warned him, but this newbie had had a few drinks and went with her. She apparently gave him a bad time, and he came back at me "I thought she was a friend of yours?

    This is the same guy who wanted to fuck my GF's baby sitter from PP, on her only visit to Sosua. She'd never had a foreign dick in her life. She asked me if it was OK, so I said, sure. He wanted to know where he could do the deed. He was staying at CM AI, so I got a moto and sent them to Dulce Secreta. They came back an hour later, him smiling, she's not smiling so I say did he pay you? She shook her head. I asked him, he said no, she didn't ask, but I paid the moto, the room and the beer. So I put him straight and demanded he give her the going rate. 2 strikes with me, and he's out!

    Such is the life of an ex-pat in Sosua! LOL.

    But we have a lot of fun, and now we leave 'them to it. We have a core group of brothers, but mostly sisters around us and we do look out for each other.

    Bottom line is, I find most guys are too much worried about what other people are getting, who's having all the fun, and how much they are paying for it.

    They don't understand one of the Golden Rules. YMMV. Actually it's a given that your mileage will vary.

    The old sayings, to each his own, there's a lid for every pot, and you can't fit a square peg into a round all, and all that!

  12. #33565

    Sample size to small to finalize that assertion

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Referrals mean nothing. That is why we say YMMV in this hobby. I took a chick and she blew my socks off; squirted all over the place. 1 month later my buddy took the same chick and he said she was garbage. My stellar review and referral caused him to waste his money.
    Its not an exact science. In that one situation with your boy he may have to chalked that up as an loss but because of your knowledge and experience in dealing with variety of different women, I put money the future women you refer to him 8 times out of ten he come up winning.

  13. #33564

    Here we go again!

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    I was going to tell you the same thing.
    Well at least we agree on something. Like a broken clock that is right at least two times a day.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Whether you take the 6 or the 10, you will know neither's level of service beforehand.
    This is absolutely true. So we have the second incident of agreement.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Referrals mean nothing. That is why we say YMMV in this hobby. I took a chick and she blew my socks off; squirted all over the place. 1 month later my buddy took the same chick and he said she was garbage. My stellar review and referral caused him to waste his money.
    Well, I least I hope you gave your buddy his money back. Or did you state: "YMMV"?

    Maybe referrals mean nothing to you? Or are referrals from you worth nothing? You don't have to state the obvious. Of course I know what YMMV means. But I would take a referral from a trusted source over a random pick any day. It is a matter of probabilities.

    The security guard at the hotel I stayed at recommended the chica I wrote about in Grownman's Boom Boom Room. I don't know if he fucked her. But his recommendation meant to me that she has not been security problem. That had value to me. It also turned out that she performed her social / sexual services to my satisfaction. So, your personal experiences (also known as anecdotal evidence) actually do not allow you to draw a conclusion on the value of referrals. And unlike you, I'm not going to make a blanket statement as to the value of referrals as if I have presented evidence that supports my conclusion. I will state again, I value recommendations. A good friend recommended three chicas to me. Two were great, one was a dud. That is a 66% success rate. Proves nothing to anyone else. But it means something to me. Remind me not to take a referral from you. LOL!

    Definition of anecdotal evidence: evidence in the form of stories that people tell about what has happened to them. "His conclusions are not supported by data; they are based only on anecdotal evidence".

    This is SubCmdr and I am a man in the arena!

  14. #33563
    Quote Originally Posted by SubCmdr  [View Original Post]
    The problem with your supposition is that you cannot know the level of service your are going to receive by just looking a chica.
    I was going to tell you the same thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by SubCmdr  [View Original Post]
    I personally prefer a 6 who fucks like a 10, rather than a 10 that fucks like a 6.
    Whether you take the 6 or the 10, you will know neither's level of service beforehand.

    Quote Originally Posted by SubCmdr  [View Original Post]
    You need a referral (another one that you trust that has been with the chica to evaluate her) or you are operating from your own personal experience with the chica.
    Referrals mean nothing. That is why we say YMMV in this hobby. I took a chick and she blew my socks off; squirted all over the place. 1 month later my buddy took the same chick and he said she was garbage. My stellar review and referral caused him to waste his money.

  15. #33562

    Learning from experience or Learning from others: Which is better?

    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Men with experience have been there done that with the eye candy.
    I see you and I share the same values, as a man in the arena and you as a man with experience. But I do not speak for all men in the arena as you do for all men with experience.

    With respect, I do not write for other men in the arena (most, as you say, have been there and done that). Nor do I write for men with experience. They have developed what works for them and what does not. I write for new people and men of all types who seek to expand their knowledge through the experience of others.

    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Men with experience value good service above stunner looks. Now when the twain are available in one package men with experience are quick to pull the trigger.
    The problem with your supposition is that you cannot know the level of service your are going to receive by just looking a chica. You need a referral (another one that you trust that has been with the chica to evaluate her) or you are operating from your own personal experience with the chica.

    "Some benefits of learning from experience: opportunities for reflection, very personal learning, internalizing the information, and unintended discoveries.

    On the flip side, some benefits of learning from others: avoiding common pitfalls, not recreating the wheel, access to wisdom, and a vast source of information."

    https://www.verbaltovisual.com/best-...rience-others/

    Men of all types chose the methods that work best for them. Always a pleasure to exchange thoughts with a man of experience.

    I remain open to learning from others. Grownman shared a negotiating method that has worked for me at times. And he also refined the concept of "Amiga con derachas" based on his experience. It has been working quite well for me also. Men of experience can do it however they like. If they like it, I love it!

    This is SubCmdr and I am a man in the arena.

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