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  1. #24816
    Quote Originally Posted by ForceSteeler  [View Original Post]
    What kind of man pays a girl every month to be there girlfriend? Anybody with a little street smarts will know that if a girl truly likes you and wants to be your girlfriend, you don't have to send her anything, especially every month like that, just like friendship, anybody will be your friend when they can get something from you, but you know who your real friends are when your broke and down on your luck. Just like these chicas, you will really know how they feel about you when they cannot get something from you!.
    If you are 50 and she is 20, it is nave to think that she is having a sexual relationship with you just out of feelings of spontaneous love, friendship, and sexual attraction. There is ALWAYS some kind of quid pro quo. However it is reasonable to think that if men are sending money to women, then the men are getting something they want too. If you take the time to read the boards for some of the other countries on International Sex Guide most of it is really depressing, and you will see how rare it is for men to have something that more or less approximates to an ongoing friendship or relationship with a woman in another country, as opposed to just paying a girl in a brothel for suck and fuck.

    You say that men cannot find relationships in Sosua, but if you go to one of the local schools for example on an open day, you will see evidence of numerous mixed families in the area that seem to be very happy and loving families with small children who are well cared for.

    Just last week I heard some terrible sad news about an absolutely beautiful Haitian girl aged 23. A couple of years ago she married a Dutchman in Puerto Plata. I was at the wedding. A few months later she went to live in the Netherlands where she had a child who is now two years old. Last Friday she died from septicaemia in childbirth in Holland, and the new baby died too. The funeral is on Saturday. Her family is distraught, her husband is devastated and is left alone with a motherless two-year-old child that his own mother is now caring for.

    You see relationships can and do happen, and they do mean a lot to the participants.

    You may not think this is a good idea, and maybe it is not, and they don't always have a happy ending, but you cannot babysit people and tell them what they can and can't do. They have to decide for themselves.

  2. #24815
    Quote Originally Posted by Phreeman69  [View Original Post]
    I wanted an all night session for my last night in town, so I arranged to have my best GFE of the week over. I told her early in the evening that I would give her 3000 pesos in the morning. From evening to morning we alternated from bed to dinner to walking on the beach to drinking. It was great.

    At one point she mentioned that she needed 5000 pesos for rent. I said no, 3000 is more than reasonable. I should have paid more attention then. I should have asked her then if she would be happy with 3000, or if it would be better to leave now with 1500 or 2000 for the evening, as opposed to TLN--and forced her to really make a choice and agree.

    Most importantly, I told her I was flying out in the morning. I had this romantic notion that she would appreciate that I picked her for my last session. Wrong.

    Instead, in the morning she says she really needs the rent money. She won't take my 3000, she's going to tear it up, etc. It wasn't too ugly, and I didn't get bent out of shape, but I gave her another 1000 and she split. It's nice to be somewhere that twenty bucks can make a problem go away. Still, it took the after-glow off our time together.

    I'm sure if she thought I would still be around and calling for another session she wouldn't have gotten pushy with me. Better not to tell them when you're leaving.

    (FYI. Yolande, Haitian spinner, 31 years old but looks great. Recommended, but obviously be smart.).
    Great post Pman, and honest.

    It's a typical problem for mongers in Sosua, and you handled it well.

    Know when to fold 'em!

  3. #24814
    Quote Originally Posted by Oakie  [View Original Post]
    You know "who your real friends are" only if they are honest with you.


    It's his money, what's your problem?

    There's only one thing worse than a Captain Save a Hoe, and that's a "Captain Save a Monger", and this board is full of 'em, LOL.
    I'm tired of guys saying that its his money? Yeah its his money but he is fucking up the game and spoiling these chicas! There is a reason why when you go to Sousa, Most of these girls now are asking for $3,000-$4,000 pesos and you can hardly get GFE. Why do you think american women are so spoiled and entitled? Its the captain save a hoe thirsty men, most American males are pussy whipped and grow up in single mother households so they are taught to put women on a pedestal. They think if they do all this extra shit like overpaying girls and sending money, that they are going to get browie points with the chicas and all it does is make these chicas more wiser and feel like I don't have to work hard. I'm not a hater and everybody can do what they want with there money, but if you look back, If you went to Sosua in 2005, It was less tourist and the chicas were making way less money, But the service was amazing and way better, GFE. You damn had to kick a chica out because she did not want to leave. Fast forward to 2015. Chicas are making way more money and have tons of WU Sponsers, and now you can forget GFE, and most of these chicas don't even put there full effort like they use too. Giving these chicas the world has not made any difference, Just more hardcore and lazy. No different from a chick collecting welfare and section 8 she feels entitled and she does not have to work hard, because she got Uncle Sam / Tax Payer.

  4. #24813
    Quote Originally Posted by AthTrainer  [View Original Post]
    I'll be heading to Sosua next week. First time jn 2 years. I was wondering where's the best place, right now, to find girls during the day? Where's a good spot on the beach, if any? Thanks. Will report on my trip.
    The area right around Rumbas is where most of the action is, day or night.

  5. #24812
    Quote Originally Posted by ForceSteeler  [View Original Post]
    You won't believe how many guys are pussy whipped! a lot of WU suckers don't talk about it on how much money they send, but the chicas talk. I know one of my good friends that only goes to DR maybe 2 time a year and he meet a girl and he started sending money about ($150-$300) a month, but he never told me about because he know I will put him on blast, but some guys got Big Egos, and when you try to school them, they think your jealous, or hating! But these chicas behind your back laugh and its like a badge of honor to have a WU Gringo. They love to brag to there friends about how many gringos they have sending them money and they laugh because in a 3rd world country like Sosua, What kind of man pays a girl every month to be there girlfriend? Anybody with a little street smarts will know that if a girl truly likes you and wants to be your girlfriend, you don't have to send her anything, especially every month like that, just like friendship, anybody will be your friend when they can get something from you, but you know who your real friends are when your broke and down on your luck. Just like these chicas, you will really know how they feel about you when they cannot get something from you!.
    You know "who your real friends are" only if they are honest with you.

    Like your "good friend" above, he never told you anything about what he was doing. LOL.

    It's his money, what's your problem?

    There's only one thing worse than a Captain Save a Hoe, and that's a "Captain Save a Monger", and this board is full of 'em, LOL.

  6. #24811
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    Not necessarily stupid. My cam girl friend, her most consistent tipper spends $2000 -$3000 on her every month and has been doing it for over a year, without ever meeting her. He's smart, polite, successful, but she's a fantasy to him and he gets a thrill from tipping her. If 2 or 3 big tippers are there, they compete to see who can tip the most.

    Different strokes.
    Different strokes is right. I know a good looking businessman who sends good money down there just to have her send back rather lame pictures of her posing every which way. He has never met her except on social media. I introduced him to DR.

    Since I know him well, I've been asking him why he would send money for a few routine pics, when the world is full of free porn, cheap chicas anything you could ever want.

    It's fantasy that he has projected on to this particular girl, and he likes the control, and he's willing to spend his money on the good feelings. She's pretty, but wouldn't turn me on, but to him maybe she's Beyonc and Shakira all rolled up into one. He doesn't WANT other forms of stimulation, he wants to tell HER what to do and have her happy to do it for him. (he will be meeting her soon when we both are down there, and I suspect that might be the end of it).

    I cast my mind back when I was new to Sosua. The girl of my dreams appeared the first night (how good is that!) and I was happy to go down there often and send money in between visits. She still measures up, but I don't give her money unless I'm fucking her, or getting her ready, and it's more like a propina at the end as I say goodbye.

    It's all about getting your OWN value for your OWN money. You couldn't pay ME to fuck some of the P4 P women posted on here. I don't need to go there to fuck ugly fat chicks.

    My point is that no matter what someone spends their own money on, they are getting something of equal value to them that THEY want, in the flesh, or even in their own minds, not what YOU want them to have, LOL. If you insist on calling them suckers, they will hide their true feelings from you, just like the other poster's "good friend" did, and all we'll have are pissing matches. Lol.

    I's important to remember that!

  7. #24810
    Quote Originally Posted by OldKool  [View Original Post]
    I smoke a little weed every now and then. In the DR the vast majority of chica I have dealt with did not do any drugs. Most think weed is like cocaine. I do tend to pick chicas who are sweet and somewhat innocent. I have run into a few who used but they have been rare. I do not drink but do enjoy a nice buzz every now and then. I was surprised how few of the ladies were like minded.
    I just think it depends on the chica's comfort level. I smoke in the DR on occasion, and I'd say approximately 1 in every 4 chicas I had were down with smoking after they saw / heard that I was. It does help that I use a vape pen the grand majority of the time I'm in the Su, and a lot of girls are intrigued that there's really strong concentrated herb in such a gentle package. I don't know anything about blow, as the "White Horse" is a drug typically attributed to the lower half of my home state. If all pot tasted / smelled / hit like Dominican bud, I'd probably be clean and sober too -- I use it for anxiety and trouble sleeping, and that DR shit gave me a headache that kept me up for a couple of hours the two times I've tried it.

  8. #24809

    Daytime Action

    Quote Originally Posted by AthTrainer  [View Original Post]
    I'll be heading to Sosua next week. First time jn 2 years. I was wondering where's the best place, right now, to find girls during the day? Where's a good spot on the beach, if any? Thanks. Will report on my trip.
    Good question. I just got back from a short week there. There are girls out during the day on the strip, I. E. The corner of Pedro Clisante and Dr. Rosen. There are also a few walking around, including on the beach, and also the massage places.

    Unfortunately these are all pretty much full time working girls. I like to session in the afternoon, and I felt good about one I picked up, but generally I did not like the selection and it was not a fun, relaxing hunt.

    It's too bad there is not a spot people gather during the day, perhaps a rotating beach bar party with two-for-one beers when the guy treats a lady. I don't know if this would appeal to hobbyists, but I think non-pro girls would come out for free drinks during the day if it were low pressure and not too sleazy. Mr. Enternational commented below that there is not an endless supply of fresh DR talent, but I think there really are a lot of 18 to 25 year-old with nothing to do, a casual attitude toward sex with strangers, and an interest in making a 1000 pesos or two.

    I understand that the authorities don't want anything too noisy in public. For example, I don't think the hotels are allowed to have unescorted girls hanging out at their pools anymore. If the event was organized online and popped up at different beach bars on different days (not Sundays), maybe that wouldn't draw too much scorn. What do you think?

  9. #24808

    Rookie mistake: saying when you're leaving

    I wanted an all night session for my last night in town, so I arranged to have my best GFE of the week over. I told her early in the evening that I would give her 3000 pesos in the morning. From evening to morning we alternated from bed to dinner to walking on the beach to drinking. It was great.

    At one point she mentioned that she needed 5000 pesos for rent. I said no, 3000 is more than reasonable. I should have paid more attention then. I should have asked her then if she would be happy with 3000, or if it would be better to leave now with 1500 or 2000 for the evening, as opposed to TLN--and forced her to really make a choice and agree.

    Most importantly, I told her I was flying out in the morning. I had this romantic notion that she would appreciate that I picked her for my last session. Wrong.

    Instead, in the morning she says she really needs the rent money. She won't take my 3000, she's going to tear it up, etc. It wasn't too ugly, and I didn't get bent out of shape, but I gave her another 1000 and she split. It's nice to be somewhere that twenty bucks can make a problem go away. Still, it took the after-glow off our time together.

    I'm sure if she thought I would still be around and calling for another session she wouldn't have gotten pushy with me. Better not to tell them when you're leaving.

    (FYI. Yolande, Haitian spinner, 31 years old but looks great. Recommended, but obviously be smart.).

  10. #24807

    Daytime action

    I'll be heading to Sosua next week. First time jn 2 years. I was wondering where's the best place, right now, to find girls during the day? Where's a good spot on the beach, if any? Thanks. Will report on my trip.

  11. #24806

    Please elaborate

    I know this may not be the right forum for this, but I would love to know the sugar daddy tactics within the USA.

    In the DR I am happy to do something nice for these girls if I have a friendship with them. Sometimes a nice gesture without reason goes a long way.

    Here in USA I have never taken the "hey I have a nice gift card to forever 21 if you are ready to suck the meat off the bone."

    Approach.

    Maybe I should.

    Please detail how you introduce this concept as I am interested for sure.

  12. #24805
    Quote Originally Posted by ForceSteeler  [View Original Post]
    Yeah but if you want to be a sugar daddy and give women support, You don't have to do it on a 3rd world girl, There are plenty of broke hungry girls in the USA, that will suck and fuck for the latest tennis shoes, and Gucci Bag just so they can brag to there Friends on facebook and instagram.
    If they are broke and hungry, you would think they would spend it on food, wouldn't you?

    I have nothing against being a sugar daddy... Its stupid and pointless....
    So I take it you would not object to being a sugar daddy, then.

    Still most of these chicas cheat anyways. Trust me I fucked to many chicas that had my cock in 1 hand and text there sponser on the other hand, Telling them they miss them and they love them.
    They have obviously identified your kink.

    If you live in DR or your in DR damn near every month then cool I can understand being a sugar daddy
    Not sure that I get the logic here. Surely if you live in the DR you could spend your money on a struggling college student and you get the pussy every day and anytime of theweek.

    but if you only there 1-3 Times a Year, don't be a WU Suckers, you can trick that money on a local struggling college student, and you get the pussy.

    Everyday and anytime of the week.
    Could not have put it better myself. Could you give some examples of how you do this in the US? Is there any particular location where this works, state, city, ethnicity of female students, subjects of major, type of college or university that would give us some hints on how to avoid unnecessary expense traveling to the DR? Would one do better with overseas students or with local-born scholars? Have you had any luck with female soccer players?

  13. #24804
    Quote Originally Posted by Oakie  [View Original Post]
    As I said that's a strawdog.

    I don't know anybody who sends "hundreds of dollars every month" and only goes once a year, LOL.

    You must hang with some stupid shit!
    You won't believe how many guys are pussy whipped! a lot of WU suckers don't talk about it on how much money they send, but the chicas talk. I know one of my good friends that only goes to DR maybe 2 time a year and he meet a girl and he started sending money about ($150-$300) a month, but he never told me about because he know I will put him on blast, but some guys got Big Egos, and when you try to school them, they think your jealous, or hating! But these chicas behind your back laugh and its like a badge of honor to have a WU Gringo. They love to brag to there friends about how many gringos they have sending them money and they laugh because in a 3rd world country like Sosua, What kind of man pays a girl every month to be there girlfriend? Anybody with a little street smarts will know that if a girl truly likes you and wants to be your girlfriend, you don't have to send her anything, especially every month like that, just like friendship, anybody will be your friend when they can get something from you, but you know who your real friends are when your broke and down on your luck. Just like these chicas, you will really know how they feel about you when they cannot get something from you!.

  14. #24803
    Quote Originally Posted by Oakie  [View Original Post]
    As I said that's a strawdog.

    I don't know anybody who sends "hundreds of dollars every month" and only goes once a year, LOL.

    You must hang with some stupid shit!
    Not necessarily stupid. My cam girl friend, her most consistent tipper spends $2000 -$3000 on her every month and has been doing it for over a year, without ever meeting her. He's smart, polite, successful, but she's a fantasy to him and he gets a thrill from tipping her. If 2 or 3 big tippers are there, they compete to see who can tip the most.

    Different strokes.

  15. #24802

    Pussy is a commodity. Always has been, Always will be.

    Pussy is a commodity, some are better at marketing it than others, and some are better at shopping for it.
    This my friend, should be a forum thread on it's own.

    If pussy did grow on trees, the economical model of today (Male population working to bring home some cash, giving it to the female population) would collapse.

    This is another example that Robert Briffault wrote a law about.

    It's not just for us humans, the animal world works the same.

    For you intrested, stickman has a good post about it. (google briffault's law stickman).

    But as said, Pussy is a commodity, some are better at marketing it than others, and some are better at shopping for it.

    And unlike many believes, not he who holds the money makes the rules, but she who decides that she do accept his offer to her.

    You can be a multi-billionare and still be turned down by a (ny) woman.

    Happy Hunting, Ken Apples.

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