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11-26-21 13:59 #33161
Posts: 3277Originally Posted by MadDin19 [View Original Post]
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11-26-21 12:57 #33160
Posts: 1908Changes
We all agree that Sosua has changed. We all agree that the quality of the street meat has declined. Lots of complaints that P4P is not what it used to be. Blame has been put on greedy chicas, police roundups, the mayor closing down the bars, weekend warriors, old guys taking over, young guys taking over, the list is endless.
To me, the reasons are obvious.
There are just as many (probably more) beautiful girls being born in the DR as ever, and a sizeable proportion of them (maybe more) look to the P4 P game, as a legal means of escaping poverty.
What has changed is technology. Now they are connected. Online social media, WhatsApp and other instant communication sites has made it possible for hookers to communicate with their clients by smartphone.
Now through WhatsApp, Scype, etc, they can stay in touch with their favorite clients anywhere in the World, for free!
Back in the day, they had no such convenience, it was all cruising for customers in person, looking to meet on the beaches, bars, clubs and the street.
The quality chicas, GFE types, who were never comfortable flashing their wares for all the Sosua public to see, or arguing that they are not full time SWs, now don't have to, so they don't.
Only the low grade hardcore types, who have no regular client base or good referrals, hang out in public, and walk the street. And they find the guys, mostly newbies, who haven't any connections, or the time to set them up.
This has obviously hurt the casual newbie mongering business, but the guys and gals who are connected, and have referrals, are doing good quality transactions, probably more, and better than ever.
The game has changed, and won't ever be the same!
I'd be surprised if those other oft mentioned sex tourist spots are not going that way too.
Adapt.
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11-26-21 09:58 #33159
Posts: 1925Originally Posted by SamSam2004 [View Original Post]
Having said that, I think the budget you set for your vacation was not realistic for Sosua. As you mentioned yourself, the girls you got for your prices weren't pretty. So what's the point flying a few thousands miles to fuck ugly women?
I never try to negotiate the bottom with a girl. If anything, you need to be fair, too.
I remember paying 1,000 pesos for a nice Haitian a long time ago, but she went with us because I was with a buddy, so she got 2 K total for servicing us both.
And did I mention that it was a long time ago?
On the other hand, I won't pay American money in a third-world country. That's ridiculous. I just won't.
But I wouldn't mind paying 2. 5-3 K for a quality fuck. The "quality" part is a bigger problem in Sosua than their asking rates IMHO.
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11-26-21 03:31 #33158
Posts: 15815Originally Posted by OldKool [View Original Post]
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11-26-21 03:11 #33157
Posts: 2803Originally Posted by OldKool [View Original Post]
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11-26-21 02:40 #33156
Posts: 3093Interesting conversation
So low balling girls will get you respect is BS. If you get a girl to accept a price she is not happy with you are getting a bad fuck. I have been doing this for 10 years and have seen about everything. I try to build a repore with the girls I fuck. I treat them with respect and often like them as people. I remember whem 1500 was the going rate I also remember penny candy and 10 dollar Converse tennis shoes. I happen to be a Gringo so paying gringo prices does not bother me because I can aff0rd it. Us short term guys do not have time to be tight wodds waiting for the hot girls to lower there prices. There are guys who will pay them and they know it. I like attractive girls who perform. I would rather have a 7 who fucks my brains out over a 10 who is so so in the bed. Girls respond to kindness and it does not make you weak. The girls call low ballers cheapy cheapys. There are some girls who are not nice people but the DR has a lot girls working who are genuinely sweet. The biggest change in Sosua are the guys who are the customers. They are younger have less money and want numbers. They bust a nut and are looking for the next girl. There is nothing wrong with that but the girls have adoted to this style. For us old timers it is frustrating because we experienced the GFE days. However times change and why you have to learn to adapt. I have and I am still having a great time. At the end of the day you know what you can afford to get what you want. Who cares what guy driving Kia thinks about you driving a Porsche it is your money.
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11-26-21 00:22 #33155
Posts: 1908Originally Posted by Durandpaul [View Original Post]
We get "friends with benefits", and I can't remember the last time I had to "negotiate" a price for pussy!
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11-26-21 00:15 #33154
Posts: 1908Originally Posted by SamSam2004 [View Original Post]
A quick perusal of the posts here will tell you that mongers who expect a hot international beauty to fuck them for 1000 pesos ($20), or 1500 pesos ($25) are always disappointed, and they are the chronic complainers. It's the guys who shop for quality not price, who are the happy campers down here. Folks tend to get what they pay for. All booze is not the same, all cigars, cars, contractors, and especially all hookers are not the same.
If a guy has game, he can fuck for free just about anywhere in the World if he wants to spend time on traditional dating, and all the bullcrap that goes with that. I've been there, done that, although apart from DR, I've never had the inclination to go to all the other monger heavens that are constantly being flogged in the Sosua Forum, for some weird reason. (Well, I might make an exception for Osaka, LOL.)
Besides Americans and Canadians, there's a large number of Europeans who are regular visitors here. Lots of Scandinavians, Dutch and especially Germans with restaurants that cater to them. German is the second most useful language here. They have no trouble getting laid, LOL.
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11-25-21 20:37 #33153
Posts: 17Originally Posted by MadDin19 [View Original Post]
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11-25-21 20:29 #33152
Posts: 17Originally Posted by Oakie [View Original Post]
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11-25-21 18:34 #33151
Posts: 67Originally Posted by SamSam2004 [View Original Post]
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11-25-21 17:53 #33150
Posts: 1908Originally Posted by SamSam2004 [View Original Post]
You said:
"On la Clisante between 2:00 pm and 7:00 I took 3 girls for 1500 on Short time. On tinder I sent the same message to all the girls I matched: 1000 for short time, 2000 for the whole night with 2 shots. If you live after the first time I pay you only 1000 and same thing if you live before 8:00 am. Some chicas sent smileys, some tried to bargain which I have automatically rejected, and some accepted. They weren't the pretty ones of course, but I only took these ones."
Let me get this straight.
You found pussy, didn't overpay, and you say they respected you.
So, what's your beef?
Most of us can find ugly girls to fuck, for free back home. No need to spend $thousands on airlines and hotels.
The beauty of Sosua (and other sex tourist spots) is that you can find young, beautiful chicas, that would not look out of place in a beauty contest, or on a fashion show runway, or on TV, belting out her latest hit.
Now you won't get a P4P WG for your 1000,1500, 2000, unless she's drunk, or desperate for a fix. You can't get steak at hamburger prices.
And as an expat here, I can tell you that $80, $100 and even $200 hookers do give good service, although we don't pay those "monger prices". We hang with them and party with them as friends. Some I've known for years.
But you wouldn't know, because you say you wouldn't pay those prices.
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11-25-21 04:48 #33149
Posts: 17Maybe some of you don't care about the money, all right. But do you care about the performance of the girl? Because let me tell you something very true that many long time mongers can confirm: The more you pay, the less the girl is going to respect you and take care of your needs. That's a fact. When you overpay she'll think you're stupid and therefore you don't deserve to be taking care of properly. She'll try to press you like hell and end the meeting as soon as she can. That's how they act and not only in DR. I've been in Colombia, Brazil, Paraguay, Peru, Thailand, Philippines, Cambodia, Vietnam, Morocco, Tanzania, Kenya, Burma, all over Europe and it's always the same story. Overpaying won't get you better sex and actually It's probably going to be quite the opposite. And the fact that you can afford to pay 200 Usd for a pack of m&m's will only make you stupid if you pay that amount. It won't taste any better than the 2 Usd pack. You will only blow it for the others who can't pay that price. You are killing the scene. If you look at Sosua now, you have to pay more for awful sex most of the time. That's the only thing you get when people overpay. Do what you want anyway, but for me, I don't think I'll be back anytime soon here.
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11-25-21 04:44 #33148
Posts: 3700New dynamics
What you have here is a generation change. I guess I'm the bridge but I was broke in on the old school so that's how I operate. In the mid 2000's it was a different time and a different attitude. Guys kept secrets and operated within guidelines. My dad and uncles would come to the DR and it would be a secret. Usually the excuses such as to play golf or get their teeth fixed and it wasn't no internet or social media, so the secret was safe.
Now we have the new generation that don't operate within these guidelines. It's every man for themselves and do what you want. Old vets have heard " mind your own business old school and it's my money not yours". The internet and social media has made it a free fall. With that the girls have changed from GFE to hourly fucks. Before the girls didn't have phones but now it's as normal as high top tennis shoes. Also mongers have become lazy because the internet has given everyone instant access.
I'm stuck in the old way and I even have changed with the times. I have never paid 100 usd for an hour but I have paid 80 usd for TLN which includes morning fun. I have learned to mind my own business and let the new guys do what.
They want. No more taking guys under my wing and trying to school them to the old ways because times have changed and they don't care.
I guess I'm an old dinosaur in a new mans game LOL.
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11-25-21 03:03 #33147
Posts: 152You got it
Originally Posted by Oakie [View Original Post]
He didn't get what he wanted, still horny back in the sex prison he decides to go on a date with an entitled dusty girl.
He spent $150 on the date, then she wants $500 to help on a her car note. After spending the whole 700, she gives him sum but entitled dusty now want her rent paid next month. LOL.
Going for lower quality is being weak, same as not negotiating to get close to the true price you can pay based on the number of days you have on the ground. First thing to do day one is to get as many numbers as possible then start negotiating. At some point you have to trust yourself that you have negotiating enough with a girl to either pass or pull the trigger. And just know that Mr Expact would get the same girl way cheaper than you because he has time on his side.