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  1. #33158
    Quote Originally Posted by OldKool  [View Original Post]
    I woulld rather have a 7 who fucks my brains out over a 10 who is so so in the bed.
    I would rather have a 10 who fucks my brains out than a 7 who is so so in bed. Come to think of it, I would rather have a bunch of better shit than a bunch of worse shit.

    Quote Originally Posted by OldKool  [View Original Post]
    I try to build a repore with the girls I fuck. I treat them with respect and often like them as people.
    You were not saying that when that hood rat was eating off your plate at the restaurant! You should have let her get full so you could get some rapport. That was a funny ass story OK.

    Quote Originally Posted by OldKool  [View Original Post]
    The girls call low ballers cheapy cheapys.
    Of course, to try to guilt them into paying more. And regular people call the girls cueros. You think they care about that? So why would a guy care about a chick that is trying to get his money calling him cheap? Maybe you have something to prove to the hookers. If you went to the car dealer and they called you cheap, I guess you would buy the most expensive thing on the lot to show them you can afford it.

  2. #33157
    Quote Originally Posted by OldKool  [View Original Post]
    I woulld rather have a 7 who fucks my brains out over a 10 who is so so in the bed.
    That explains a lot.

  3. #33156

    Interesting conversation

    So low balling girls will get you respect is BS. If you get a girl to accept a price she is not happy with you are getting a bad fuck. I have been doing this for 10 years and have seen about everything. I try to build a repore with the girls I fuck. I treat them with respect and often like them as people. I remember whem 1500 was the going rate I also remember penny candy and 10 dollar Converse tennis shoes. I happen to be a Gringo so paying gringo prices does not bother me because I can aff0rd it. Us short term guys do not have time to be tight wodds waiting for the hot girls to lower there prices. There are guys who will pay them and they know it. I like attractive girls who perform. I would rather have a 7 who fucks my brains out over a 10 who is so so in the bed. Girls respond to kindness and it does not make you weak. The girls call low ballers cheapy cheapys. There are some girls who are not nice people but the DR has a lot girls working who are genuinely sweet. The biggest change in Sosua are the guys who are the customers. They are younger have less money and want numbers. They bust a nut and are looking for the next girl. There is nothing wrong with that but the girls have adoted to this style. For us old timers it is frustrating because we experienced the GFE days. However times change and why you have to learn to adapt. I have and I am still having a great time. At the end of the day you know what you can afford to get what you want. Who cares what guy driving Kia thinks about you driving a Porsche it is your money.

  4. #33155
    Quote Originally Posted by Durandpaul  [View Original Post]
    Going for lower quality is being weak, same as not negotiating to get close to the true price you can pay based on the number of days you have on the ground. First thing to do day one is to get as many numbers as possible then start negotiating. At some point you have to trust yourself that you have negotiating enough with a girl to either pass or pull the trigger. And just know that Mr Expact would get the same girl way cheaper than you because he has time on his side.
    I doubt MrE gets his P4P pussy cheaper than we who live here. Especially when you factor in his World travel budget, which is not available to most mongers.

    We get "friends with benefits", and I can't remember the last time I had to "negotiate" a price for pussy!

  5. #33154
    Quote Originally Posted by SamSam2004  [View Original Post]
    It's like you said, I can get ugly girls in my country for free. And I get pretty ones for between 40 and 70 euros. I don't need to pay a ticket, a hotel and extra expenses for quick bad sex with a girl who has an awful attitude. In other third world countries you can het very good sex with pretty girls for the whole night for less than 40 usd. That's a fact. So DR is over for me. It doesn't worth it. And the funny thing is, that you can F pretty Dominican girls in Germany in the Eros centers in Frankfurt and Berlin for 25 euros. DR is a beautiful country but tve P4P scene sucks big time.
    Maybe you should have read the Forum before you wasted your money on the trip. There's no money back guarantee here, and no Complaints Department. It's not Booking dot com, or Trip Advisor.

    A quick perusal of the posts here will tell you that mongers who expect a hot international beauty to fuck them for 1000 pesos ($20), or 1500 pesos ($25) are always disappointed, and they are the chronic complainers. It's the guys who shop for quality not price, who are the happy campers down here. Folks tend to get what they pay for. All booze is not the same, all cigars, cars, contractors, and especially all hookers are not the same.

    If a guy has game, he can fuck for free just about anywhere in the World if he wants to spend time on traditional dating, and all the bullcrap that goes with that. I've been there, done that, although apart from DR, I've never had the inclination to go to all the other monger heavens that are constantly being flogged in the Sosua Forum, for some weird reason. (Well, I might make an exception for Osaka, LOL.)

    Besides Americans and Canadians, there's a large number of Europeans who are regular visitors here. Lots of Scandinavians, Dutch and especially Germans with restaurants that cater to them. German is the second most useful language here. They have no trouble getting laid, LOL.

  6. #33153
    Quote Originally Posted by MadDin19  [View Original Post]
    What's the problem with you Americans? You pay a lot of money for 20 minutes of ficky ficky bullshit. You don't know anything else. It is a dream for you? Have you ever been to another country? Sorry but this whole discussion is bullshit.
    Unfortunately it's not the Americans my friend. Many Americans won't agree to overpay but some will. And it's the same thing with Europeans countries and rich middle east ones. Look at what happened to Pattaya. It's exactly the same thing. People don't negotiate and agree to whatever the girls are asking for. You can see it in the prices and feel it in their attitude. They are spoiled, lazy and not caring. Thank god for Africa and some countries in south America. The days of the simps are upon us.

  7. #33152
    Quote Originally Posted by Oakie  [View Original Post]
    Don't let the door hit ya! LOL.

    You said:

    "On la Clisante between 2:00 pm and 7:00 I took 3 girls for 1500 on Short time. On tinder I sent the same message to all the girls I matched: 1000 for short time, 2000 for the whole night with 2 shots. If you live after the first time I pay you only 1000 and same thing if you live before 8:00 am. Some chicas sent smileys, some tried to bargain which I have automatically rejected, and some accepted. They weren't the pretty ones of course, but I only took these ones."

    Let me get this straight.

    You found pussy, didn't overpay, and you say they respected you.

    So, what's your beef?

    Most of us can find ugly girls to fuck, for free back home. No need to spend $thousands on airlines and hotels..
    It's like you said, I can get ugly girls in my country for free. And I get pretty ones for between 40 and 70 euros. I don't need to pay a ticket, a hotel and extra expenses for quick bad sex with a girl who has an awful attitude. In other third world countries you can het very good sex with pretty girls for the whole night for less than 40 usd. That's a fact. So DR is over for me. It doesn't worth it. And the funny thing is, that you can F pretty Dominican girls in Germany in the Eros centers in Frankfurt and Berlin for 25 euros. DR is a beautiful country but tve P4P scene sucks big time.

  8. #33151
    Quote Originally Posted by SamSam2004  [View Original Post]
    Maybe some of you don't care about the money, all right. But do you care about the performance of the girl? Because let me tell you something very true that many long time mongers can confirm: The more you pay, the less the girl is going to respect you and take care of your needs. That's a fact. When you overpay she'll think you're stupid and therefore you don't deserve to be taking care of properly. She'll try to press you like hell and end the meeting as soon as she can. That's how they act and not only in DR. I've been in Colombia, Brazil, Paraguay, Peru, Thailand, Philippines, Cambodia, Vietnam, Morocco, Tanzania, Kenya, Burma, all over Europe and it's always the same story. Overpaying won't get you better sex and actually It's probably going to be quite the opposite. And the fact that you can afford to pay 200 Usd for a pack of m&m's will only make you stupid if you pay that amount. It won't taste any better than the 2 Usd pack. You will only blow it for the others who can't pay that price. You are killing the scene. If you look at Sosua now, you have to pay more for awful sex most of the time. That's the only thing you get when people overpay. Do what you want anyway, but for me, I don't think I'll be back anytime soon here.
    What's the problem with you Americans? You pay a lot of money for 20 minutes of ficky ficky bullshit. You don't know anything else. It is a dream for you? Have you ever been to another country? Sorry but this whole discussion is bullshit.

  9. #33150
    Quote Originally Posted by SamSam2004  [View Original Post]
    Maybe some of you don't care about the money, all right. But do you care about the performance of the girl? Because let me tell you something very true that many long time mongers can confirm: The more you pay, the less the girl is going to respect you and take care of your needs. That's a fact. When you overpay she'll think you're stupid and therefore you don't deserve to be taking care of properly. She'll try to press you like hell and end the meeting as soon as she can. That's how they act and not only in DR. I've been in Colombia, Brazil, Paraguay, Peru, Thailand, Philippines, Cambodia, Vietnam, Morocco, Tanzania, Kenya, Burma, all over Europe and it's always the same story. Overpaying won't get you better sex and actually It's probably going to be quite the opposite. And the fact that you can afford to pay 200 Usd for a pack of m&m's will only make you stupid if you pay that amount. It won't taste any better than the 2 Usd pack. You will only blow it for the others who can't pay that price. You are killing the scene. If you look at Sosua now, you have to pay more for awful sex most of the time. That's the only thing you get when people overpay. Do what you want anyway, but for me, I don't think I'll be back anytime soon here.
    Don't let the door hit ya! LOL.

    You said:

    "On la Clisante between 2:00 pm and 7:00 I took 3 girls for 1500 on Short time. On tinder I sent the same message to all the girls I matched: 1000 for short time, 2000 for the whole night with 2 shots. If you live after the first time I pay you only 1000 and same thing if you live before 8:00 am. Some chicas sent smileys, some tried to bargain which I have automatically rejected, and some accepted. They weren't the pretty ones of course, but I only took these ones."

    Let me get this straight.

    You found pussy, didn't overpay, and you say they respected you.

    So, what's your beef?

    Most of us can find ugly girls to fuck, for free back home. No need to spend $thousands on airlines and hotels.

    The beauty of Sosua (and other sex tourist spots) is that you can find young, beautiful chicas, that would not look out of place in a beauty contest, or on a fashion show runway, or on TV, belting out her latest hit.

    Now you won't get a P4P WG for your 1000,1500, 2000, unless she's drunk, or desperate for a fix. You can't get steak at hamburger prices.

    And as an expat here, I can tell you that $80, $100 and even $200 hookers do give good service, although we don't pay those "monger prices". We hang with them and party with them as friends. Some I've known for years.

    But you wouldn't know, because you say you wouldn't pay those prices.

  10. #33149
    Maybe some of you don't care about the money, all right. But do you care about the performance of the girl? Because let me tell you something very true that many long time mongers can confirm: The more you pay, the less the girl is going to respect you and take care of your needs. That's a fact. When you overpay she'll think you're stupid and therefore you don't deserve to be taking care of properly. She'll try to press you like hell and end the meeting as soon as she can. That's how they act and not only in DR. I've been in Colombia, Brazil, Paraguay, Peru, Thailand, Philippines, Cambodia, Vietnam, Morocco, Tanzania, Kenya, Burma, all over Europe and it's always the same story. Overpaying won't get you better sex and actually It's probably going to be quite the opposite. And the fact that you can afford to pay 200 Usd for a pack of m&m's will only make you stupid if you pay that amount. It won't taste any better than the 2 Usd pack. You will only blow it for the others who can't pay that price. You are killing the scene. If you look at Sosua now, you have to pay more for awful sex most of the time. That's the only thing you get when people overpay. Do what you want anyway, but for me, I don't think I'll be back anytime soon here.

  11. #33148

    New dynamics

    What you have here is a generation change. I guess I'm the bridge but I was broke in on the old school so that's how I operate. In the mid 2000's it was a different time and a different attitude. Guys kept secrets and operated within guidelines. My dad and uncles would come to the DR and it would be a secret. Usually the excuses such as to play golf or get their teeth fixed and it wasn't no internet or social media, so the secret was safe.

    Now we have the new generation that don't operate within these guidelines. It's every man for themselves and do what you want. Old vets have heard " mind your own business old school and it's my money not yours". The internet and social media has made it a free fall. With that the girls have changed from GFE to hourly fucks. Before the girls didn't have phones but now it's as normal as high top tennis shoes. Also mongers have become lazy because the internet has given everyone instant access.

    I'm stuck in the old way and I even have changed with the times. I have never paid 100 usd for an hour but I have paid 80 usd for TLN which includes morning fun. I have learned to mind my own business and let the new guys do what.

    They want. No more taking guys under my wing and trying to school them to the old ways because times have changed and they don't care.

    I guess I'm an old dinosaur in a new mans game LOL.

  12. #33147

    You got it

    Quote Originally Posted by Oakie  [View Original Post]
    I have this vision of a guy from sex prison coming to Sosua, and sees the girl of his dreams. Right on the next bar stool. No cab ride across town, no fake photograph on some dating site, no showing up with her mother and brothers. She'll go for $80 dollars.

    His buddy tells him not to go for it cause he'll "spoil the market" for all the other mongers! He'll tell him about all the cheap pussy he had in 2009.

    Does he pull the trigger and risk humiliation by the monger crowd, and disappointing his buddy, or does he get exactly what he came for, maybe a memorable fuck he'll remember for a lifetime?

    Turns out his "price control police union" buddies are getting ripped off royally by the cheap hoes. According to all reports posted here!

    500,1000, or 1500, is a rip off if you are not getting what you really want!

    LOL.
    The " let make a stand" movement and not pay more than 1500 peso doesn't make sense. I will go further the guy left the sex prison for a 7 days trip. He spent $1500 on airfare and hotel. His food and drinks budget is $200. He plans to see 3 girls a day with a budget of $200 (one all night at 100 and 2 short term at 50) for $1400 total for girls. Some girls at Bailes are the girls he has been thinking about while in the sex prison but since he has no street smart he decides to go with the dusty girls. At the german bar or those that grab your dick while you walk through the streets aka the bottom tier. He pays 1500 pesos, and only spent $ 700 on his budget for girls. Meaning he is going back to the US with $700.

    He didn't get what he wanted, still horny back in the sex prison he decides to go on a date with an entitled dusty girl.

    He spent $150 on the date, then she wants $500 to help on a her car note. After spending the whole 700, she gives him sum but entitled dusty now want her rent paid next month. LOL.

    Going for lower quality is being weak, same as not negotiating to get close to the true price you can pay based on the number of days you have on the ground. First thing to do day one is to get as many numbers as possible then start negotiating. At some point you have to trust yourself that you have negotiating enough with a girl to either pass or pull the trigger. And just know that Mr Expact would get the same girl way cheaper than you because he has time on his side.

  13. #33146
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    I am no expat. I
    I don't just go where sex tourism is tolerated and sex tourists are fleeced. I do not mind paying for pussy, but I am not going to be as happy as you are being gringo taxed for it. 3000 and 3500 is not a bargain in the Domimican Republic; it is a total sham!
    Our hobby is their hustle. Chicas don't need a reason to overprice you. If she can get away with charging you $2000 she would do it. Do US dollar becoming stronger has nothing to do with Chicas asking for more or how much you pay in the US for the same thing. It's about can she hustle you out of more money. I can afford to give a Chica $100 per session. However I understand this game and local market value. Many of us with a better understanding of this game can operate better.

    I did have a chica tell me that the dollar is stronger so she has to charge more. I told her the flights or more so I have to give less. Do you think she cared how much I paid for my flight or how much prices have increased? The look on her face was dumbfounded. Whoever told her her reason was justified didn't prepare her for someone with a common sense rebuttal. I try stay out of the interactions of others who are not looking for information. But that Individualism is the reason why it's now a sellers market.

  14. #33145

    My 2 cents

    If I may time in and give my opinion on Sosua been coming since 2013 and now live here. As someone that remember when rumbas use to be back at 1500 and dlatin club the Sosua now and way different in quality back then even early hours you had 7's 8's chicas out so much so that vets use to tell me to wait and not be so thirsty because I wouldn't be able to take a real dime at night and I blow my load so early. The reason a lot has changed is because the dudes changed back in 2013 the guys coming where mongers who went other places like Brazil etc and the were seasoned mongers nowadays the guys coming are mostly newbie never been out the country first time mongering and a 4 looks like a dime to them so when a rat say 100 dollars they jump at it because it steal where they come from. Back then the newbie to Sosua weren't newbie to mongering is what I'm trying to say. Then the guys were either ex military frat guys or some type of professional now not so much you couldn't there weren't many just regular dudes only certain dudes even knew about it.

    The police and social media is another big one dimes have instagram tinder etc they don't need to all the way to Sosua to find a date. I myself don't even take girls off the street only use tinder had a girl show up and she had her own car you won't see her in Rumbas or baliees. Now I fiind the quality in Sosua to be low but when I'm around guy who come once a year they think it great I think going forward Sosua is going to be a newbie mongering location some vets will still come because they have friends here but it not at the top of the list. Another thing I've noticed about town is a lot of guys are only here because Asia is closed or was and when it does open they will leave I know that is why I'm here waiting for the PI or (Thailand I know Thailand is open now but need it to be a bit easier.)

  15. #33144
    I have this vision of a guy from sex prison coming to Sosua, and sees the girl of his dreams. Right on the next bar stool. No cab ride across town, no fake photograph on some dating site, no showing up with her mother and brothers. She'll go for $80 dollars.

    His buddy tells him not to go for it cause he'll "spoil the market" for all the other mongers! He'll tell him about all the cheap pussy he had in 2009.

    Does he pull the trigger and risk humiliation by the monger crowd, and disappointing his buddy, or does he get exactly what he came for, maybe a memorable fuck he'll remember for a lifetime?

    Turns out his "price control police union" buddies are getting ripped off royally by the cheap hoes. According to all reports posted here!

    500,1000, or 1500, is a rip off if you are not getting what you really want!

    LOL.

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