Sosua Reports

[Triple Darknes]

I've learned a lot from Mr. Gogo. He schooled me when I first came to Santo Domingo not knowing a thing and during COVID.

I've also learned that dudes really like South Beach and even when going abroad that they still want the South Beach Las Vegas experience. One could say "why not just go to South Beach or Vegas?" I guess the answer would be they want to be in countries where if the "dimes" that they want decide that 250 USD is not enough that they can bribe their way out of jail.

I say C'est la vie. It's your vacation and your money.

I would say to veterans who would say "the third world is not like the america value doesn't increase with cost" You're just going to have to range out to POP on the malecon, and even out to places like Montellano. The days where a cute girl with a bill would take a quick trip to sosua to resolve the issue is dead. Sure you have so barrio girls from Santo Domingo and Santiago willing to make the trip, If you're lucky you might find a diamond in the rough campo cutie from La Union on Playa Sosua. But thinking that you're going to get a Law student from Santiago on PC or even Bailiee's? Not going to happen. There's more Vennies (and trannies) in Anhvee than there are Santo Domingo "weekend warriors".

Really dudes are paying for the experience of being around women way better looking than the ones that they're around back home and 100 USD for 20 minutes is a small amount to pay for that.

That being said If you're looking for the "finer things in life" and want South South Beach / Liv on Sundays King of Diamond's mondays then I suggest that you go to the Sue on a Major american holiday weekend (except chirstmas and easter) and go to the Casino.

I also suggest that if you really want dimes that you go to the club in the W&P hotel in Santo Domingo, all of the dimes won't be available but that's where the baddest chicks on the island are consistently. #getyourweightup.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[IronQuinn]

Only the low grade hardcore types, who have no regular client base or good referrals, hang out in public, and walk the street. And they find the guys, mostly newbies, who haven't any connections, or the time to set them up.

Earlier this year when I began reading this board for my first trip, I always thought your posts were very informative. Sure, I'd be called a newbie as far as Sosua goes, compared to regulars, but after being there, I have to disagree with the above statement. Now, before some regulars chime in about newbies not knowing how it used to be, hold on. It doesn't take a genius to know what good service it. I already heard it from a regular when I was there. He was a good guy, but busting my balls for only going after street girls, saying they're low quality. Then, he showed me a photo on his phone of one of "his" girls, telling me, that's quality. I saw nothing special about her, and said I wouldn't pay a nickel for her. I think I hurt the poor guy's feelings. The point is, it depends on your style. I picked entirely from the street and beach while I was there, and had great girls, never rushed, and all stayed to chat for a while afterward without asking for ridiculous amounts of 3,000+ pesos. I simply told them what I would pay and that was that. Never once did I ask "how much". I enjoyed walking the streets, messing with the girls every step of the way. It was a good time, a lot of joking and laughing. I'm sure to the regulars, these street girls have a stigma, that's why they stay away. I agree there are hardcore dirtball girls on the strip, but they're easy to spot and avoid. For future newbies reading that above statement, they might get discouraged. When in reality you don't necessarily need a network or to have connections, you just need to have common sense in your selections.

[OldKool]

For us in and out guys your info is useless. *You are satisfied going to low budget casas and playing pimp daddy to *poor local girls who have the misfortune of crossing your path. Most guys here may come once or twice a year. Consequently the price the girls charge is no big deal. This forum is primarily about P4P. Sosua provides great access to Dominican girls. You have the made the point that Sosua is not for you and that is cool. Why you continue to down a place you do not frequent blows my mine. No one on forum wants to hear about your free pussy. I am happy paying for what I want and I am enjoying getting it. I Continue to share meals with chicas and find it enjoyable and a way to achieve mutual respect.

I would rather have a 10 who fucks my brains out than a 7 who is so so in bed. Come to think of it, I would rather have a bunch of better shit than a bunch of worse shit.

You were not saying that when that hood rat was eating off your plate at the restaurant! You should have let her get full so you could get some rapport. That was a funny ass story OK.

Of course, to try to guilt them into paying more. And regular people call the girls cueros. You think they care about that? So why would a guy care about a chick that is trying to get his money calling him cheap? Maybe you have something to prove to the hookers. If you went to the car dealer and they called you cheap, I guess you would buy the most expensive thing on the lot to show them you can afford it.

[Turgid]

So low balling girls will get you respect is BS. If you get a girl to accept a price she is not happy with you are getting a bad fuck. .....

Ever see the girls the cheapie charlies say they get good service from? Normal punters would not go anywhere near them, 5's and below, end of story!

[Sammon]

What's the problem with you Americans? You pay a lot of money for 20 minutes of ficky ficky bullshit. You don't know anything else. It is a dream for you? Have you ever been to another country? Sorry but this whole discussion is bullshit.

Everyone is overthinking mongering situation. Simple thing is go and have fun. One man's 10 is another man's 5. I like to spend time with a girl who I think is attractive enough to keep my dick strong. Irrespective of the agreed amount I tend to overpay if the service is good. There is no set fee.

[Oakie]

We all agree that Sosua has changed. We all agree that the quality of the street meat has declined. Lots of complaints that P4P is not what it used to be. Blame has been put on greedy chicas, police roundups, the mayor closing down the bars, weekend warriors, old guys taking over, young guys taking over, the list is endless.

To me, the reasons are obvious.

There are just as many (probably more) beautiful girls being born in the DR as ever, and a sizeable proportion of them (maybe more) look to the P4 P game, as a legal means of escaping poverty.

What has changed is technology. Now they are connected. Online social media, WhatsApp and other instant communication sites has made it possible for hookers to communicate with their clients by smartphone.

Now through WhatsApp, Scype, etc, they can stay in touch with their favorite clients anywhere in the World, for free!

Back in the day, they had no such convenience, it was all cruising for customers in person, looking to meet on the beaches, bars, clubs and the street.

The quality chicas, GFE types, who were never comfortable flashing their wares for all the Sosua public to see, or arguing that they are not full time SWs, now don't have to, so they don't.

Only the low grade hardcore types, who have no regular client base or good referrals, hang out in public, and walk the street. And they find the guys, mostly newbies, who haven't any connections, or the time to set them up.

This has obviously hurt the casual newbie mongering business, but the guys and gals who are connected, and have referrals, are doing good quality transactions, probably more, and better than ever.

The game has changed, and won't ever be the same!

I'd be surprised if those other oft mentioned sex tourist spots are not going that way too.

Adapt.

[Xpartan]

Maybe some of you don't care about the money, all right. But do you care about the performance of the girl? Because let me tell you something very true that many long time mongers can confirm: The more you pay, the less the girl is going to respect you and take care of your needs.

Slight correction: it's rather the more you OVERpay the less she's going to respect you.

Having said that, I think the budget you set for your vacation was not realistic for Sosua. As you mentioned yourself, the girls you got for your prices weren't pretty. So what's the point flying a few thousands miles to fuck ugly women?

I never try to negotiate the bottom with a girl. If anything, you need to be fair, too.

I remember paying 1,000 pesos for a nice Haitian a long time ago, but she went with us because I was with a buddy, so she got 2 K total for servicing us both.

And did I mention that it was a long time ago?

On the other hand, I won't pay American money in a third-world country. That's ridiculous. I just won't.

But I wouldn't mind paying 2. 5-3 K for a quality fuck. The "quality" part is a bigger problem in Sosua than their asking rates IMHO.

[Mr Enternational]

I woulld rather have a 7 who fucks my brains out over a 10 who is so so in the bed.

I would rather have a 10 who fucks my brains out than a 7 who is so so in bed. Come to think of it, I would rather have a bunch of better shit than a bunch of worse shit.

I try to build a repore with the girls I fuck. I treat them with respect and often like them as people.

You were not saying that when that hood rat was eating off your plate at the restaurant! You should have let her get full so you could get some rapport. That was a funny ass story OK.

The girls call low ballers cheapy cheapys.

Of course, to try to guilt them into paying more. And regular people call the girls cueros. You think they care about that? So why would a guy care about a chick that is trying to get his money calling him cheap? Maybe you have something to prove to the hookers. If you went to the car dealer and they called you cheap, I guess you would buy the most expensive thing on the lot to show them you can afford it.

[Frannie]

I woulld rather have a 7 who fucks my brains out over a 10 who is so so in the bed.

That explains a lot.

[OldKool]

So low balling girls will get you respect is BS. If you get a girl to accept a price she is not happy with you are getting a bad fuck. I have been doing this for 10 years and have seen about everything. I try to build a repore with the girls I fuck. I treat them with respect and often like them as people. I remember whem 1500 was the going rate I also remember penny candy and 10 dollar Converse tennis shoes. I happen to be a Gringo so paying gringo prices does not bother me because I can aff0rd it. Us short term guys do not have time to be tight wodds waiting for the hot girls to lower there prices. There are guys who will pay them and they know it. I like attractive girls who perform. I would rather have a 7 who fucks my brains out over a 10 who is so so in the bed. Girls respond to kindness and it does not make you weak. The girls call low ballers cheapy cheapys. There are some girls who are not nice people but the DR has a lot girls working who are genuinely sweet. The biggest change in Sosua are the guys who are the customers. They are younger have less money and want numbers. They bust a nut and are looking for the next girl. There is nothing wrong with that but the girls have adoted to this style. For us old timers it is frustrating because we experienced the GFE days. However times change and why you have to learn to adapt. I have and I am still having a great time. At the end of the day you know what you can afford to get what you want. Who cares what guy driving Kia thinks about you driving a Porsche it is your money.

[Oakie]

Going for lower quality is being weak, same as not negotiating to get close to the true price you can pay based on the number of days you have on the ground. First thing to do day one is to get as many numbers as possible then start negotiating. At some point you have to trust yourself that you have negotiating enough with a girl to either pass or pull the trigger. And just know that Mr Expact would get the same girl way cheaper than you because he has time on his side.

I doubt MrE gets his P4P pussy cheaper than we who live here. Especially when you factor in his World travel budget, which is not available to most mongers.

We get "friends with benefits", and I can't remember the last time I had to "negotiate" a price for pussy!

[Oakie]

It's like you said, I can get ugly girls in my country for free. And I get pretty ones for between 40 and 70 euros. I don't need to pay a ticket, a hotel and extra expenses for quick bad sex with a girl who has an awful attitude. In other third world countries you can het very good sex with pretty girls for the whole night for less than 40 usd. That's a fact. So DR is over for me. It doesn't worth it. And the funny thing is, that you can F pretty Dominican girls in Germany in the Eros centers in Frankfurt and Berlin for 25 euros. DR is a beautiful country but tve P4P scene sucks big time.

Maybe you should have read the Forum before you wasted your money on the trip. There's no money back guarantee here, and no Complaints Department. It's not Booking dot com, or Trip Advisor.

A quick perusal of the posts here will tell you that mongers who expect a hot international beauty to fuck them for 1000 pesos ($20), or 1500 pesos ($25) are always disappointed, and they are the chronic complainers. It's the guys who shop for quality not price, who are the happy campers down here. Folks tend to get what they pay for. All booze is not the same, all cigars, cars, contractors, and especially all hookers are not the same.

If a guy has game, he can fuck for free just about anywhere in the World if he wants to spend time on traditional dating, and all the bullcrap that goes with that. I've been there, done that, although apart from DR, I've never had the inclination to go to all the other monger heavens that are constantly being flogged in the Sosua Forum, for some weird reason. (Well, I might make an exception for Osaka, LOL.)

Besides Americans and Canadians, there's a large number of Europeans who are regular visitors here. Lots of Scandinavians, Dutch and especially Germans with restaurants that cater to them. German is the second most useful language here. They have no trouble getting laid, LOL.

[SamSam2004]

What's the problem with you Americans? You pay a lot of money for 20 minutes of ficky ficky bullshit. You don't know anything else. It is a dream for you? Have you ever been to another country? Sorry but this whole discussion is bullshit.

Unfortunately it's not the Americans my friend. Many Americans won't agree to overpay but some will. And it's the same thing with Europeans countries and rich middle east ones. Look at what happened to Pattaya. It's exactly the same thing. People don't negotiate and agree to whatever the girls are asking for. You can see it in the prices and feel it in their attitude. They are spoiled, lazy and not caring. Thank god for Africa and some countries in south America. The days of the simps are upon us.

[SamSam2004]

Don't let the door hit ya! LOL.

You said:

"On la Clisante between 2:00 pm and 7:00 I took 3 girls for 1500 on Short time. On tinder I sent the same message to all the girls I matched: 1000 for short time, 2000 for the whole night with 2 shots. If you live after the first time I pay you only 1000 and same thing if you live before 8:00 am. Some chicas sent smileys, some tried to bargain which I have automatically rejected, and some accepted. They weren't the pretty ones of course, but I only took these ones."

Let me get this straight.

You found pussy, didn't overpay, and you say they respected you.

So, what's your beef?

Most of us can find ugly girls to fuck, for free back home. No need to spend $thousands on airlines and hotels..

It's like you said, I can get ugly girls in my country for free. And I get pretty ones for between 40 and 70 euros. I don't need to pay a ticket, a hotel and extra expenses for quick bad sex with a girl who has an awful attitude. In other third world countries you can het very good sex with pretty girls for the whole night for less than 40 usd. That's a fact. So DR is over for me. It doesn't worth it. And the funny thing is, that you can F pretty Dominican girls in Germany in the Eros centers in Frankfurt and Berlin for 25 euros. DR is a beautiful country but tve P4P scene sucks big time.

[MadDin19]

Maybe some of you don't care about the money, all right. But do you care about the performance of the girl? Because let me tell you something very true that many long time mongers can confirm: The more you pay, the less the girl is going to respect you and take care of your needs. That's a fact. When you overpay she'll think you're stupid and therefore you don't deserve to be taking care of properly. She'll try to press you like hell and end the meeting as soon as she can. That's how they act and not only in DR. I've been in Colombia, Brazil, Paraguay, Peru, Thailand, Philippines, Cambodia, Vietnam, Morocco, Tanzania, Kenya, Burma, all over Europe and it's always the same story. Overpaying won't get you better sex and actually It's probably going to be quite the opposite. And the fact that you can afford to pay 200 Usd for a pack of m&m's will only make you stupid if you pay that amount. It won't taste any better than the 2 Usd pack. You will only blow it for the others who can't pay that price. You are killing the scene. If you look at Sosua now, you have to pay more for awful sex most of the time. That's the only thing you get when people overpay. Do what you want anyway, but for me, I don't think I'll be back anytime soon here.

What's the problem with you Americans? You pay a lot of money for 20 minutes of ficky ficky bullshit. You don't know anything else. It is a dream for you? Have you ever been to another country? Sorry but this whole discussion is bullshit.