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  1. #29775
    Quote Originally Posted by PuntingGeorge  [View Original Post]
    Dear Mr Gogo, this is what a respectful debate looks like. I've shared my costs, OldKool has shared his with justification, now newbies will have a guide as to what to expect. It's been a few months since I was in the DR, so now, based on the respectfully shared data, I expect to pay more when I next visit. It's also possible that OldKool will think that if the guy on the ground at the moment and a previous visitor have been happy with the service they received at lower prices, it might be worth pushing back a little on price and seeing how it affects the service he receives.

    If I continue paying my prices I doubt OldKool will take offence, if OldKool sticks to his prices I certainly won't take offence.

    OldKool is polite, be like OldKool. (Does anyone get the Bob reference? LOL).
    Dear Mr Punting George,

    IMO I don't think a guy is a good negotiator if he plays hardball and lets the girls he really wants walk away and settles for less with other girls. Its easy to throw a lowball figure out there with a take it or leave it offer, where is the skill in that? A good negotiator will be flexible to get something he really wants.

    No, girls in fantasy island are not the same like TVs at Walmart and Best buy, maybe some guys just view them as a warm, wet hole but to me its the intangibles that add to the equation for me. You applied a 1500 pesos ceiling to Sosua but not to Colombia. Its been posted here many times before that the going rate is 1500-2000 for ST and 2500 to 3500 for LT, so please don't act like you didn't know the basic pricing structure.

    What does offend me is when I see people travel to other countries and don't respect the culture or the info given on this board. We are given this wonderful play land full of beautiful women who offer us what we can't get in our native land at less than the price of a steak dinner.

    The reasons some newbies don't post once there, is because we have already answered all their questions pre-trip and they don't give a damn and are going to do it their way anyhow. We try to give good advice and see guys post like they weren't told anything here. Shit, guys now don't even respect the minimum pricing structure in tourist areas.

    Expats and Dominicans are part of the culture and get pussy very cheap outside of the tourist areas, so if you got a girl for 1000 pesos in Sosua consider yourself lucky, its not the norm. If your goal is to go to Sosua and bang girls for 1000-1500 to feel you are a master negotiator, more power to you. But for me I'm not going to sit in a hotel in Sosua jacking off to porn because I didn't want to pay a girl I really wanted 10 dollars. I guess it boils down to some guys focus on the deal and not the girl, I focus on the girl and remain flexible with the deal.

    In summary, maybe I shouldn't have said people who do things differently are jerks but I just wanted you to understand that IMO by creating a 1500 pesos ceiling and not showing flexibly you might be limiting your options.

  2. #29774
    Quote Originally Posted by OldKool  [View Original Post]
    Do the math 1000 pesos is 20 bucks. Even the Haitian girls are pushing back on 1000 pesos. 1500 during the day can get you some action but you will be viewed as a cheapy cheapy and get cheapy cheapy service. Black Beards ST is 2100 pesos. Do your thing if you can pull it off go for it. However I have been to Sosua about 7 time in the last year. I have done a lot of research if you know what I mean.
    Dear Mr Gogo, this is what a respectful debate looks like. I've shared my costs, OldKool has shared his with justification, now newbies will have a guide as to what to expect. It's been a few months since I was in the DR, so now, based on the respectfully shared data, I expect to pay more when I next visit. It's also possible that OldKool will think that if the guy on the ground at the moment and a previous visitor have been happy with the service they received at lower prices, it might be worth pushing back a little on price and seeing how it affects the service he receives.

    If I continue paying my prices I doubt OldKool will take offence, if OldKool sticks to his prices I certainly won't take offence.

    OldKool is polite, be like OldKool. (Does anyone get the Bob reference? LOL).

  3. #29773
    Quote Originally Posted by MrGogo  [View Original Post]
    Huh man? I just read a report you did in the Colombia section yesterday and you paid 110 usd (220 k cop) for two hours.
    Yep, and if you read the report I just posted you'll see I paid 300 k COP for one hour today. Did you also read the report about me paying 25 k COP? I'm in a new city and trying various locations. You can't compare the main mongering areas of Bogota and Sosua. The former stretches 10 miles North to South across neighborhoods of varying affluence, the latter covers less than a square mile with the only variance being the chica's nationality. BTW, not that it makes a difference but 220 k COP is less than 80 USD.

    Now you say in the DR the ceiling for st is 30 usd (1500 dop). Please explain the price difference?
    Simple market economics. I pay the right price for the product I want in the market where I'm shopping. In Bogota I paid 5,400 COP for 2 apples, 2 pears, 2 bananas and an orange. At home that would have cost me the equivalent of 12,000 COP. Today I paid 4,000 COP an hour to shoot pool. At home I pay more than that for each game. Should I pay the local vendors more because of the cost back home? Should I haggle with the vendors back home because I pay less in developing countries?

    I have been to Colombia and the Dominican republic and found the Colombian girls prettier but the Dominican girls better in bed most times.
    Subjective.

    CBJ is the norm in Colombia but not in the DR.
    That is my experience too.

    Colombian girls rarely spend the night but the DR it can be done easily.
    It's easily done in Bogota too, it's just more expensive. The DR seems to have an unusually narrow gap between the cost of ST and LT. Bogota seems to be an hourly economy. There are significant discounts for longer sessions, but not as significant as in the DR.

    I'm starting to think it's a group of new mongers who search until they find the bottom line and take pride in undercutting it to justify their egos.
    Or, it's a group of mongers who have better negotiating skills than you. Negotiation is not about getting the lowest price, it's about getting to the lowest price which keeps the other party happy. I've found that to be 1,000 - 1,500 on the streets of Sosua, for good looking chicas who perform well, leave happy and message me incessantly to ask when I'm coming back. I'm sorry if you're not able to get the tail you want for the same price.

    We now have a guy in Sosua willing to go home alone before he pays 10 usd over his norm 1500 p. Huh?
    Let's put that into perspective, 10 USD on top of 1,500 DOP is an increase of 33%. If Best Buy was charging $1,200 for a TV which was available at Walmart and Amazon for $900 where would you buy it?

    Guys travel for hours only to be a jerk over 500 p.
    Is the definition of jerk not paying what you're willing to pay, or not having the same criteria as you?

    Whatever happened to a fair deal? What happened to both parties leaving the deal happy?
    On what have you based your assertion that his chicas are leaving unhappy?

    Maybe we need the DR sectioned off; One city with girls that are average with a missing tooth and fucks 5 guys a day that only wants 1 k to 1.5 k pesos and another city with pretty girls who take time to give you a special experience for 1700 to 2000 pesos. But no, you better bet some cheap guys will find their asses to the other city to see how much they can lower the market with their bullshit.
    You're making a lot of assumptions about the chicas I've shagged in Sosua, none of which are correct. Finding your own city where you can go and overpay to feel like you've received a special experience sounds like a good idea. Actually, on second thoughts, stay in Sosua, it's guys like you that keep the chicas well funded, so they're happy with 1,000 - 1,500 when I come to town LOL.

    Bottom line, you're the reason newbies are scared to post. How dare you call someone a jerk for sharing his experience? The point of this forum is for mongers to share their experiences so newbies can arrive with an idea of what to expect and regular visitors can keep each other updated as to changing conditions.

    My success in the DR and now in Bogota owes a significant amount to the mongers who have gone before me and taken the time to post reports, answer my questions and offer guidance. I'd like to think I've since contributed something to the newbies who have come after me. That cycle only continues if people are made to feel comfortable posting.

    Read the posts, thank the poster for his contribution and tell him to have fun. If it doesn't add any new information to what you already know or you're not willing to adapt, then just move on to the next post. If you think he's doing something wrong, offer your perspective on why you think he should do it differently (without using pejoratives like jerk or telling him he's wrong because he doesn't roll like you) and be okay with him choosing to disregard your advice.

  4. #29772
    Quote Originally Posted by MrGogo  [View Original Post]
    Huh man? I just read a report you did in the Colombia section yesterday and you paid 110 usd (220 k cop) for two hours.
    220 COP is about $80.

  5. #29771
    Quote Originally Posted by OldKool  [View Original Post]
    Do the math 1000 pesos is 20 bucks. Even the Haitian girls are pushing back on 1000 pesos. 1500 during the day can get you some action but you will be viewed as a cheapy cheapy and get cheapy cheapy service. Black Beards ST is 2100 pesos. Do your thing if you can pull it off go for it. However I have been to Sosua about 7 time in the last year. I have done a lot of research if you know what I mean.
    You want us to do the math. Why? I am not going to get into the USD verses DOP debate. But the fact is the economy here is in pesos. Therefore you have to do the math in pesos. And someone has already done the math for you previously (in DOP I might add).

    Every girl on the street in Santo Domingo will take 1000 pesos to fuck. Do they fuck better in Sosua than Santo Domingo? I don't have the answer to that question. But if there is such thing as a pussy market then it does not really matter what anyone paid previously. The market participants only care about right now. And right now Mr. Pokeris is fucking ST for 1500 DOP without complaints.

    Now anyone who wants to pay more can pay more. But I don't understand why they would do that. Mr. Pokeris stays focused on the deal not the girl. And has given us all some insight into the market in Sosua right now!

    Just pass me the hooka!

  6. #29770

    Do not want to argue.

    Do the math 1000 pesos is 20 bucks. Even the Haitian girls are pushing back on 1000 pesos. 1500 during the day can get you some action but you will be viewed as a cheapy cheapy and get cheapy cheapy service. Black Beards ST is 2100 pesos. Do your thing if you can pull it off go for it. However I have been to Sosua about 7 time in the last year. I have done a lot of research if you know what I mean.

    Quote Originally Posted by PuntingGeorge  [View Original Post]
    Sorry, I disagree. 1,500 is my ceiling for ST, I often pay 1,000, and usually get excellent service and have the chica asking when she can come back.

  7. #29769
    Quote Originally Posted by PuntingGeorge  [View Original Post]
    Sorry, I disagree. 1,500 is my ceiling for ST, I often pay 1,000, and usually get excellent service and have the chica asking when she can come back.
    Huh man? I just read a report you did in the Colombia section yesterday and you paid 110 usd (220 k cop) for two hours. Now you say in the DR the ceiling for st is 30 usd (1500 dop). Please explain the price difference? I have been to Colombia and the Dominican republic and found the Colombian girls prettier but the Dominican girls better in bed most times. CBJ is the norm in Colombia but not in the DR. Colombian girls rarely spend the night but the DR it can be done easily.

    I'm starting to think it's a group of new mongers who search until they find the bottom line and take pride in undercutting it to justify their egos. We now have a guy in Sosua willing to go home alone before he pays 10 usd over his norm 1500 p. Huh? Guys travel for hours only to be a jerk over 500 p. Whatever happened to a fair deal? What happened to both parties leaving the deal happy?

    Maybe we need the DR sectioned off; One city with girls that are average with a missing tooth and fucks 5 guys a day that only wants 1 k to 1.5 k pesos and another city with pretty girls who take time to give you a special experience for 1700 to 2000 pesos. But no, you better bet some cheap guys will find their asses to the other city to see how much they can lower the market with their bullshit.

  8. #29768
    Quote Originally Posted by PuntingGeorge  [View Original Post]
    Sorry, I disagree. 1,500 is my ceiling for ST, I often pay 1,000, and usually get excellent service and have the chica asking when she can come back.
    I think also 1500 is spot on for good looking girl for short time.

  9. #29767
    Quote Originally Posted by PuntingGeorge  [View Original Post]
    I've had her overnight. Great performer! Another one that claims not be be a street girl and wants to be my girlfriend haha.
    She told me she is living Santo Domingo and come here just for weekend when I ask how much bus ticket cost to Santo Domingo she said she not remember she talks some bullshit but yeah she is great performer and funny girl to spend for short time or little bit longer.

  10. #29766
    Quote Originally Posted by Pokeris  [View Original Post]
    This girl was name charina 20 years old with perfect body big tits beautiful face.
    I've had her overnight. Great performer! Another one that claims not be be a street girl and wants to be my girlfriend haha.

  11. #29765
    Quote Originally Posted by OldKool  [View Original Post]
    1500 pesos is low balling. Some girls will take it but you will get low ball service from them and a unhappy sex partner. I prefer to have a chica in a good mood willing to make me happy. Paying 40 bucks or 2000 pesos is a bargain for good sex. 1500 will limit your options to desperate girls who are often the bad actors. IMHO.
    Sorry, I disagree. 1,500 is my ceiling for ST, I often pay 1,000, and usually get excellent service and have the chica asking when she can come back.

  12. #29764
    Quote Originally Posted by Dickhead  [View Original Post]
    Minimum wage is between 9,360 and 15,400 depending on the size of the company. So that would be about 600 pesos a day for someone working for a medium sized company. Two and a half days' wages for a one hour fuck does not sound like all that much of a 'lowball' to me.
    Of course it is a lowball, compared to back home.

  13. #29763
    Minimum wage is between 9,360 and 15,400 depending on the size of the company. So that would be about 600 pesos a day for someone working for a medium sized company. Two and a half days' wages for a one hour fuck does not sound like all that much of a 'lowball' to me.

    https://dominicantoday.com/dr/povert...rs-in-poverty/

    So if you look at the household budget number of 13,260 pesos, divided by 30 days in a month, that is 442 pesos per day. She can live for well over three days from a one hour fuck.

    I'm just sayin'.

  14. #29762
    Quote Originally Posted by OldKool  [View Original Post]
    1500 pesos is low balling. Some girls will take it but you will get low ball service from them and a unhappy sex partner. I prefer to have a chica in a good mood willing to make me happy. Paying 40 bucks or 2000 pesos is a bargain for good sex. 1500 will limit your options to desperate girls who are often the bad actors. IMHO.
    I have 3 girls already here all they give good service for 1500 pesos after some drama from some of them but nothing wrong with that so why pay more? My all short times not last longer than 1 hour I just talk with them little bit sometimes have some beer fuck them and let them go, so I think is fair price. If you staying with girl like more than 1 so 2000 pesos sounds right also.

  15. #29761

    My perspective.

    1500 pesos is low balling. Some girls will take it but you will get low ball service from them and a unhappy sex partner. I prefer to have a chica in a good mood willing to make me happy. Paying 40 bucks or 2000 pesos is a bargain for good sex. 1500 will limit your options to desperate girls who are often the bad actors. IMHO.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pokeris  [View Original Post]
    Thanks mate I already plan to have today one haitian I will try sosua lighths bar I think all haitians it hanging there.

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