Sosua Reports

[Surfer500]

SavePros 321,

If I have offended you I apologize. If you have been reading my reports since my visits in December and earlier this month you would of noticed that several of my reports have been "color-full" and nothing to do with the color of someone's skin. It's not the color of someones skin that matters, but what's below the skin that matters.

[Surfer500]

If you want to be treated well you need to be respectful. DR putas are not the same as American Hos. I like you love the cupid and semi pros they bring a level of affection that is very refreshing and worth the effort and money it may cost. Waking up next to lovely young lady who has not sucked 5 or 6 other dicks that week is a good thing. Kissing a women who kisses you back with passion. You got to learn some Spanish and enjoy latin dancing and food. Hey but sport fucking 19 year old pussy in Sosua is real cool and should not be taken for granite.

Haven 123 & Old Kool where all on the same page regarding the dating site girls / semi-pro's and the sport fucking available from the Strip. Live long and prosper!

[Bravo]

The times I stopped my car to allow a pedestrian or another motorist to have the right a way. I have seen people hesitate to move because they don't expect anyone to do that.

One of the hardest things I have dealing with here is that pedestrians don't have the right of way here and you will just get run over! A few days ago a Dominican in a car stopped to let me cross the street. I came up to him and thanked him for being so considerate. What a breath of fresh air.

I've never seen a race of people more nonchalant about crossing the street than Dominicans in Sosua! They will step out into the road without even thinking of looking to see if a car is coming or not! Its no surprise that so many are killed every year from auto / moto accidents

[Frannie]

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i still think that once you believe you can change people's behavior, that is the first step towards being captain save a hoe. never mind if you are a behaviorist or a cognitive therapist.

/quote]perhaps he is trying to change: his message was a lot better this morning when he did not opine on women.

some people have a one pony trick and so their message is a "cut and paste" every day. for such people, paraphrasing oscar wilde,"the worse thing than being talked about is not being talked about at all".

well oscar wilde surely knew a thing or two about mongering. he said "true friends stab you in the front."

he also said "women are made to be loved, not understood."

[Frannie]

If you've been paying attention, I have brought to the surface statements you wrote about 6 months ago, to illustrate a point with another poster. And it appears that it may be appropriate to address it again. What you say here with Mr E, basically contradicts what you said in October in regards to dealing with chicas and behavior.

Have another look to see what I mean. You had already indicated that chicas have to be trained like dogs. And you indicated a rather simple process in accomplishing that.

Look here is the thing about dogs. I used to work as a weekend administrator at a large hospital and was responsible for scheduling and managing about 300 employees on the typical weekend or holiday-doctors, nurses, techs, kitchen staff, cleaners, security-everybody.

It was important that people showed up for work, preferably on time so that the previous shift could go home, to manage overtime costs, to meet statutory requirement such as Medicare rules, and to provide effective quality care to patients and their families.

Employees would come up with all sorts of spurious reasons why they were late or absent and most of it would be lies. That is just normal human behavior, and one has to manage it, no matter how angry one would like to become.

For example a $30 per hour nurse calls and says she is taking sick leave on a public holiday, but you know perfectly well that she works part time for an agency that pays $90 per hour for working on holidays in some other hospital. So today she is getting $30 per hour from you, plus $90 per hour from someone else.

You have an employee who calls and says he / she ate something at McDonalds last night and have been having diarrhea and vomiting all night. You say fine, you will call the Public Health Department to report this and they will probably come to interview the employee about this outbreak of food poisoning. Half an hour later the employee calls to say they took some pills and are feeling better already and maybe it was the home brewed beer, not McDonalds.

You have an employee who you know is a heavy drinker who calls at 5:00 a. M. And says his / her car will not start and it is being towed. Yeah, right.

People do this all the time, even responsible employees in what you may regard as the best health care system in the world. It is not worth losing any sleep over, and you just have to treat them like dogs. Don't pay any attention to what they say, just focus on the behavior (absenteeism) and managing the consequences (gaps in scheduled services).

You are on vacation and a prostitute calls to say she is running late for an appointment. You suspect she is "cheating" on you. Get over it! Tell her you are amused at her presumption and ask if the sex was good with the other guy. Make her suck your dick while she tells you about it. Make her say "Papi only your guevo makes me feel good" while you tell her "Mami, no other woman makes me hard like you do" It is all lies, but it is all good fun.

[Tempoecorto]

Fuck it it had to be sad cause all the right thinking folk are applauding.

Kudos that you are not and there are others. I too am tired of the "complain, repeat" routine.

[Tempoecorto]

i still think that once you believe you can change people's behavior, that is the first step towards being captain save a hoe. never mind if you are a behaviorist or a cognitive therapist.

perhaps he is trying to change: his message was a lot better this morning when he did not opine on women.

some people have a one pony trick and so their message is a "cut and paste" every day. for such people, paraphrasing oscar wilde,"the worse thing than being talked about is not being talked about at all".

[Phuquer]

Some of us have said many times "It doesn't get any better than this", especially at the playa enjoying the view, the clear water, shooting the breeze, having a nice meal, girl watching and / or hunting, or taking a nap. The simple pleasure of life. Nothing extravagant. You don't have to drive your luxury car like you would back at home, no need to wear expensive clothes, or impress people with "your stuff". You can be as simplistic as you want. And the best part is, many of us are enjoying the beautiful weather after escaping all the cold weather and snow back where it is cold.

Other than that. My Montellano chica and I spent a good night together.

Thank you for your post (and the start of getting this thread back on track). I am heading to Sosua in a couple of weeks and looking forward to having a great time, meeting new friends, and seeing what this place is all about.

[Frannie]

if you've been paying attention, i have brought to the surface statements you wrote about 6 months ago, to illustrate a point with another poster. and it appears that it may be appropriate to address it again. what you say here with mr e, basically contradicts what you said in october in regards to dealing with chicas and behavior.

have another look to see what i mean. you had already indicated that chicas have to be trained like dogs. and you indicated a rather simple process in accomplishing that.

now frannie, this is one of the reasons i think you choose certain posts to respond to. argue just to be argumentative. if a person has a pov, that pov should be consistent wherever it applies. not just to make statements to illustrate you disagree with a poster when in reality you don't. especially if you believe what you write.

now above you told mr e that thinking you can change them (chica behavior) is the 1st step on the pathway to being the "captain save-a-hoe" that so many of you fear becoming. but yet back in october you broke down just how chicas should be treated and trained. you even went on to give a brief process of how it can be accomplished. you said you have to be confident, unambiguous, and in charge and you will be fine. it's not rocket science according to you. you don't have to beat them, just make it clear that you mean what you say, and say what you mean.

now frannie if you meant what you said and said what you mean, in that statement just a short while ago, in regards to training chicas, why would you counter mr e now implying a problem with being able to influence a change in chicas behavior? that somehow a dude is on the pathway to becoming a "captain save-a-hoe" just by thinking he can change them? thats a significant contradiction on your part. or perhaps i am reading it all wrong? that the only reason you made that statement was to suggest that mr e's perspective somehow makes him inclusive of one subject to being a csah? because that is what your response to him seems to represent, moreso than a legit disagreement. especially if one is to believe that you meant what you said back in october. please advise if i got it all wrong.

yes, but if you read carefully what i wrote before i said that with regard to lateness, you will see that i say first make a reasonable allowance for contingencies. i would say you did not do this, especially as she did call to say she was running late. ok, she said five minutes and showed up twenty five minutes later, but a lot of these chicas have little sense of time. people are no different in the us.

in my employment i would often get phone calls from employees who said they were running late. if i asked them how late, they would perhaps say 15 minutes and then show up half an hour later, because people habitually underestimate how long it takes to get their stuff together, set the burglar alarm, get their car loaded, started and backed out, arrive at destination, find a parking spot, park, walk to building where they work, open the door, remember they left their time card in the car, go back and get it, and so on. if they arrived half an hour late instead of 15 minutes, i would not then tell them to go home again.

if a chica said she was coming in five minutes, and she was in la union (for example) , she probably meant she was leaving the house in five minutes, so by the time she had walked down to the carretera, waited for a carro with an empty seat, rode to sosua, exited the taxi, crossed the road, spoken to an acquaintance she saw, and so on, probably 25 minutes had gone by. that would be allowing for contingencies. also remember that your spanish is not 100% perfect, so you might have missed the fine distinctions between ahora and ahorita and ahora mismo, for example. if a chica says she is leaving the house ahorita, it is far from clear if she is on the way out the door, or needs to take a shower first.

anyway you didn't make a reasonable allowance for contingencies.

secondly, i love dogs, and treat them with great affection, but i don't ask them for their opinions. that is what i mean by treating them like dogs. in the original discussion i think someone was talking about a chica using his ipad to skype her male friends during a paid date, or something like that. no i would not tolerate that, but a bit different from showing up a bit late, when clearly the chica had been spending time fixing herself up to look good, for whatever reason.

this girl is a prostitute who showed up a bit late for a prearranged 10:00 pm date, which is about par for the course. it was not like you had to leave at 11:00 pm to go to the airport to catch your flight home, in which case you might well want to grab another chica if she did not show up.

it sounds like you had a bit of a crush on this chica and were just bent out of shape when it became apparent that to her you were just another tourist client.

maybe she did intend to look for another client later, or maybe she was just trying to make a good impression on you. we shall never know. who cares? move on.

regarding mr. e, i am not sure what point you are making, but if his friend called a women whom he knew lived 1/2 hour away and told her to be there in 10 minutes or not to bother, then either she is not at home, but close by, or she doesn't come. it appears that she was lying about her gps data, but these chicas lie all the time for various reasons. do you really want a chica to say "right now i am fucking someone else, but as soon as i have finished and washed up i will be with you"?

it is like these people who act like they are really shocked that president clinton lied about getting his dick sucked by monica lewinsky."oh, i could not vote for him because he lied about lewinsky!" do you think you would ever hear people saying "well i disagree with clinton on his economic and foreign policy, and he was responsible for genocide in bosnia, and i think what he did to haiti over the rice farmers was criminal, but since he told the truth about monica sucking his dick, i will vote for him again!"

i still think that once you believe you can change people's behavior, that is the first step towards being captain save a hoe. never mind if you are a behaviorist or a cognitive therapist.

my recommendation would be to not become so emotionally involved over issues like lateness. if they show up on time that is nice, but if not then go your own way. it is your vacation.

[Wrx2005]

In the past month I have watched many guys come and go. I have had the pleasure of meeting many new guys, as well as socialize with quite a few guys I always see. I have had some interesting grown folks type of discussions with these men. In some cases many of the men were all much older than me. So it has been interesting listening to how different guys of various ages perceive and enjoy the DR, and Sosua in particular.

A lot of these men do not go to Rumba, D'Latins or any of the clubs. They have their own way of enjoying what the Dr (and Sosua) has to offer. For the most part, many if not most just enjoy sitting down and talking about anything that comes up. One can learn a lot when you have good social circles. And these guys and myself are appreciative of the beauty this country and particularly the north coast has to offer.

Some of us have said many times "It doesn't get any better than this", especially at the playa enjoying the view, the clear water, shooting the breeze, having a nice meal, girl watching and / or hunting, or taking a nap. The simple pleasure of life. Nothing extravagant. You don't have to drive your luxury car like you would back at home, no need to wear expensive clothes, or impress people with "your stuff". You can be as simplistic as you want. And the best part is, many of us are enjoying the beautiful weather after escaping all the cold weather and snow back where it is cold.

Other than that. My Montellano chica and I spent a good night together.

[Wrx2005]

I tried for 2 months to ignore you but beating the same dam drum. Girl show up 45 minutes late looking great says she can 3 hours because she has issue with her bambino. You with your magical powers read her mind and determine she wants to get another trick for night. So you show her by sending her packing with no money. For two months I tried to ignore your post. You manage to find every scammer in DR. You are a scam magnet. I like many other posters finds your assertions silly, wrong and winney. Somethings border on paranoia. We are all out to get you. I am not looking forward to the book you use to defend your stupidity. Fuck it it had to be sad cause all the right thinking folk are applauding.

It's called being there. I was the one relating to this chica, and therefore I am the one with a better perspective on what this chicas objective was that night. Moreover, Frannie made a statement that may be correct. He said she may have been late because she may have been with someone prior to getting to my place. That is entirely plausible. I think I recall he was in accord that she was aiming to be with another client that night as well. And I kinda suspect that, moreso than her being late leaving her house.

Now smart man. It is expected that you'll have a problem with whatever I post, and put a negative spin on it. But your own comrade gave a speculative opinion on the chicas potential reason for being late. You going to say to him, that he has magical powers to read that chicas mind too? Of course not. You would never say that to him even if you disagreed with him. In either case, mine or Frannie, it is experience, ours and the experience of others that allows us to calculate ones potential motives. But the most significant perspective you should have observed, is that no one is under any obligation to accept an offer, or inconsiderate behavior if they choose not to.

[Wrx2005]

Thinking that you can change them is the first step on the pathway to being the "Captain Save-a-Hoe" that so many of you fear becoming.

If you've been paying attention, I have brought to the surface statements you wrote about 6 months ago, to illustrate a point with another poster. And it appears that it may be appropriate to address it again. What you say here with Mr E, basically contradicts what you said in October in regards to dealing with chicas and behavior.

Have another look to see what I mean. You had already indicated that chicas have to be trained like dogs. And you indicated a rather simple process in accomplishing that.

My experience is that you have to treat them like dogs. I love dogs to death, but you must establish complete dominance before you give them any liberties, always give clear and unambiguous signals, and make sure that they are 100% loyal to you before you give them any liberties, otherwise they will try to take the lead, Or, I love dogs, but when you are training them they have to first learn who is in charge before they are ready to learn. Once that is established they do fine. However if you don't show them who is in charge, then they get ideas above their station and think that they must be in charge.

It is the same with these chicas. You just have to be confident, unambiguous and in charge and you will do fine. It is not rocket science. You don't have to beat them with a stick, just make it clear that you mean what you say and say what you mean.

Now Frannie, this is one of the reasons I think you choose certain posts to respond to. Argue just to be argumentative. If a person has a POV, that POV should be consistent wherever it applies. Not just to make statements to illustrate you disagree with a poster when in reality you don't. Especially if you believe what you write.

Now above you told Mr E that thinking you can change them (chica behavior) is the 1st step on the pathway to being the "Captain Save-a-Hoe" that so many of you fear becoming. But yet back in October you broke down just how chicas should be treated and trained. You even went on to give a brief process of how it can be accomplished. You said you have to be confident, unambiguous, and in charge and you will be fine. It's not rocket science according to you. You don't have to beat them, just make it clear that you mean what you say, and say what you mean.

Now Frannie if you meant what you said and said what you mean, in that statement just a short while ago, in regards to training chicas, why would you counter Mr E now implying a problem with being able to influence a change in chicas behavior? That somehow a dude is on the pathway to becoming a "Captain Save-a-Hoe" just by thinking he can change them? Thats a significant contradiction on your part. Or perhaps I am reading it all wrong? That the only reason you made that statement was to suggest that Mr E's perspective somehow makes him inclusive of one subject to being a CSaH? Because that is what your response to him seems to represent, moreso than a legit disagreement. Especially if one is to believe that you meant what you said back in October. Please advise if I got it all wrong.

[OldKool]

If you want to be treated well you need to be respectful. DR putas are not the same as American Hos. I like you love the cupid and semi pros they bring a level of affection that is very refreshing and worth the effort and money it may cost. Waking up next to lovely young lady who has not sucked 5 or 6 other dicks that week is a good thing. Kissing a women who kisses you back with passion. You got to learn some Spanish and enjoy latin dancing and food. Hey but sport fucking 19 year old pussy in Sosua is real cool and should not be taken for granite. Much love bro you can be my wing anytime.

You know, Oldkool, I am really surprised that many guys either don't get what you say, or worse just don't give a Fuck (pun intended). Whatever. Life's a ***** (pun maybe intended!) as they say! Anyways, I prefer the semi pros and those from Cupid. Works for me. So far! Never a 100 percent, but say 2 out of 3. It is a LOT of work though. And I do end up spending more. And have no regrets about that whatsoever!

[OldKool]

I tried for 2 months to ignore you but beating the same dam drum. Girl show up 45 minutes late looking great says she can 3 hours because she has issue with her bambino. You with your magical powers read her mind and determine she wants to get another trick for night. So you show her by sending her packing with no money. For two months I tried to ignore your post. You manage to find every scammer in DR. You are a scam magnet. I like many other posters finds your assertions silly, wrong and winney. Somethings border on paranoia. We are all out to get you. I am not looking forward to the book you use to defend your stupidity. Fuck it it had to be sad cause all the right thinking folk are applauding.

If you substitute your generalizations and your reference to chicas as "bitches" with the words I use, like some chicas, enough chicas, or the chicas the info applies to, then you might get out of that haterade route you are wallowing in. If you can't seem to do that like your buddies, you might as well take a seat in the corner with the rest of the "I can't seem to articulate what others post the way it was conveyed" circus clowns.

[GrownMan1]

My buddy and I are departing today for the US. I've been here three weeks and my buddy one week. I have mixed emotions about this place and am not sure when I'll return and how long I will stay next time. I spent time at the beach every day which included snorkeling, ocean swimming, and surfing. If this place didn't have all the [CodeWord119] I could of never stayed here for three weeks, it would of just been too much. If someone is coming here to bang the Chicas only, I could see being depleted after 3 or 4 days.

My buddy has had quite an experience. He temporarily went black after spending time in the Voodo Lounge (Bar Central). Initially he had some good encounters with the Haitians and then some bad ones so stayed away from them for the rest of the trip.

Tell your buddy; I would love to heard what happen.