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  1. #33114

    Confrontation never a good idea

    When things go south I try to get away as painlessly as posible. Haitian girls are safer then the Dominicans because they never want to involve the police. When it come to the police Haitians they are always wrong. Some Dominican chicas know cops and will call the police who will make you have an expensive bad time. Best defence is try fine the scammers before you take them home. Once you are in their hands the best thing you can do is get them out with as little cost as posible. Fighting with them is a losing propositon. Things can get very ugly quickly. Trust me you do not want to be in that position. I am very careful when it comes to new girls. If I get any hint of a bad character I push away. Never pick a girl when your judgement is inpaired.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Dude that was your own fault. You should have taken her out to dinner and for drinks first.

  2. #33113
    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    As usual your correct. I should of wined and dined her first. Then when she push backed on the shower I should of said I'm going to give you 2,000 pesos more for a total of 4,000 pesos of which she probably would of said okay but it will cost another 3,000 pesos for a total of 5,000 Pesos if you want me to wash my panoche.

    I kick myself for not being the gentlemen that I should of been with her, bowing to her demands, letting her call the shots, telling her it's no problem if she doesn't want to shower and ask her how much more money she wants to lick her sweaty stinky pussy.

    It's almost like a mine field with some of the Chicas working the Strip. Some of them think there so cool. I love the ones that won't quote you a price. It's always, what will you pay me. One of them tried that on me and asked for how long and I told her a "rato" and she kept asking how much I would pay, and I said I don't know, and when I asked again how much, she had we had to negotiate. Dominican logic at it's finest.

    I can only presume that there are a lot of stupid mongers here who are getting totally hosed, with a lot of these girls fleecing them and throwing temper tantrums in the room. The tables need to be turned on them whenever possible, but most guys are to timid and frightened to do so being in a foreign country and most not speaking Spanish.

    And the scene inside Kings and the antics there is amusing, with girls quoting like $ 200 USD for an all nighter. Guys there have shown me the messages they have gotten from some of the girls.

    Way different inside Kings then what goes on on the street.

    And there are some very nasty skanky girls in and around the German bar as well who will do anything you want.
    Sorry to hear about the shower episode. She must be a rarity, as most of these girls opted to take a shower without me even saying anything. Glad you didn't cave on the 2 K pesos when she pulled that bullshit. I think you're absolutely right about guys being too scared to handle their business. If they can't take the time to learn at least some basic Spanish, they certainly won't understand the cultural aspect of machismo. If they perceive a potential client as a weak target, the price goes up. This isn't the US, Canada, or Europe, feminism has no place here, so the man should always control the situation. This was literally my entire "interview" on the strip: Personally, I like big asses and black skin. So, when I saw a girl that met the criteria, the small talk was what's your name, how old are you, and how many kids do you have. Then, I'd ask her to turn around, and grab, squeeze, and shake her ass. If I liked her, I offered 1,500 pesos with room to bargain up to 2 K. If they didn't go for it, I said no and kept searching. Ones that I did bring back, I always mentioned the price we agreed upon to the person at the hotel taking the girl's ID. It was more for a physiological effect in case she wanted to pull anything. Once we got in the room, it was all smiles and fun with a good experience. Afterward, the majority would stay and chat for a little while before leaving. I never went in Kings to get a girl, and from the sound of it, I'm glad I didn't. Thanks for the report.

  3. #33112

    The Strip Is Like A Minefield Buyer Beware

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Dude that was your own fault. You should have taken her out to dinner and for drinks first.
    As usual your correct. I should of wined and dined her first. Then when she push backed on the shower I should of said I'm going to give you 2,000 pesos more for a total of 4,000 pesos of which she probably would of said okay but it will cost another 3,000 pesos for a total of 5,000 Pesos if you want me to wash my panoche.

    I kick myself for not being the gentlemen that I should of been with her, bowing to her demands, letting her call the shots, telling her it's no problem if she doesn't want to shower and ask her how much more money she wants to lick her sweaty stinky pussy.

    It's almost like a mine field with some of the Chicas working the Strip. Some of them think there so cool. I love the ones that won't quote you a price. It's always, what will you pay me. One of them tried that on me and asked for how long and I told her a "rato" and she kept asking how much I would pay, and I said I don't know, and when I asked again how much, she had we had to negotiate. Dominican logic at it's finest.

    I can only presume that there are a lot of stupid mongers here who are getting totally hosed, with a lot of these girls fleecing them and throwing temper tantrums in the room. The tables need to be turned on them whenever possible, but most guys are to timid and frightened to do so being in a foreign country and most not speaking Spanish.

    And the scene inside Kings and the antics there is amusing, with girls quoting like $ 200 USD for an all nighter. Guys there have shown me the messages they have gotten from some of the girls.

    Way different inside Kings then what goes on on the street.

    And there are some very nasty skanky girls in and around the German bar as well who will do anything you want.

  4. #33111
    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    A few nights ago I pulled a cute little spinner, a Haitian, off the Strip named Dafny. What a piece of shit. We agreed to 2,000 Pesos and when we got to the room I told her I was going to shower and that she needed to take a shower as well. She completely refused to take a shower and I pleaded with her to do so explaining to her in Spanish that there was even hot water and she only needed to shower from the neck down and she completely refused, . She demanded that I pay her 2,000 Pesos,
    Dude that was your own fault. You should have taken her out to dinner and for drinks first.

  5. #33110
    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    A few nights ago I pulled a cute little spinner, a Haitian, off the Strip named Dafny. What a piece of shit. We agreed to 2,000 Pesos and when we got to the room I told her I was going to shower and that she needed to take a shower as well. She completely refused to take a shower and I pleaded with her to do so explaining to her in Spanish that there was even hot water and she only needed to shower from the neck down and she completely refused, so I told her she had to leave and her clothes had never even come off. She demanded that I pay her 2,000 Pesos, and I said no, and that she was only getting 500 Pesos, and she still said no, and her clothes never came off.

    I then told her I was going to call the Police and she started to get nervous upon hearing that the police might be involved.

    I then took out a 500 Peso bill, and she said give it to me, and I told her no, that she would get it on the street.

    She finally walked down to reception, security gave me her Cedula, and I walked out onto the street with her Cedula in my hand.
    Kind of goes to my point that the Haitian girls have gotten more business like over the last year, even cheating guys. Luckily you were smart and played your hand right knowing that they don't need trouble with the police. But it also shows that with ugly fat Dominican girls asking and getting 100 usd that the Haitian girls don't want to be short changed. Refusing to take a shower is a new one for me but damn showering used to be mandatory.

  6. #33109

    Stay Away From The Little Haitain Spinner Named Dafny

    Quote Originally Posted by MrGogo  [View Original Post]
    Yes, the Haitian girls have always been the backup plan when Dominicans aren't on my plan. Haitians are more appreciative, less problems and better in bed IMO.

    If you can get them to buy you drinks, make you laugh and less than 2 k, that's a win win. Sounds like you found GFE in Sosua, very rare nowadays. But I have noticed my last couple trips to Sosua, even the Haitian girls becoming more business like.
    A few nights ago I pulled a cute little spinner, a Haitian, off the Strip named Dafny. What a piece of shit. We agreed to 2,000 Pesos and when we got to the room I told her I was going to shower and that she needed to take a shower as well. She completely refused to take a shower and I pleaded with her to do so explaining to her in Spanish that there was even hot water and she only needed to shower from the neck down and she completely refused, so I told her she had to leave and her clothes had never even come off. She demanded that I pay her 2,000 Pesos, and I said no, and that she was only getting 500 Pesos, and she still said no, and her clothes never came off.

    I then told her I was going to call the Police and she started to get nervous upon hearing that the police might be involved.

    I then took out a 500 Peso bill, and she said give it to me, and I told her no, that she would get it on the street.

    She finally walked down to reception, security gave me her Cedula, and I walked out onto the street with her Cedula in my hand.

    She said give me my Cedula, and I said no, she wasn't getting it back, and she started to freak out.

    I than took her Cedula, and the 500 peso bill, and thru it across the street and told her she was a piece of shit, and she picked up her Cedula and 500 Peso bill and scampered off.

    If I hadn't of given her anything there most probably would of been a problem at the Hotel which I didn't want.

    So the following night she was out on the Strip again, and I walked up to her and asked her if she bathed today and she didn't say a word to me.

    I can only imagine how many bad sessions she's delivered to guys with the fucking attitude she had, and how many guys she has taken advantage of, and ripped off in the sense that guys get frightened and just pay up.

  7. #33108

    Don't be that Guy!!

    Quote Originally Posted by MrGogo  [View Original Post]
    One guy in out group paid 3 k pesos for a ten minute blowjob. Another guy paid 250 usd for 3 hours. These are rich guy who don't visit Sosua often and have big money. Overall it was good trip but mostly I spent my time keeping my buddies safe and watching the show.
    Wait a sec. 250 usd for just 3 hours? Were these dudes part of your group? Seriously what's the point of being around an OG Monger that knows the scene and country and NOT listen to their advice. Because I'm pretty sure you gave them the rundown on prices and what to expect etc. Thats the whole point in going down there with season vets, meeting expats in the area etc, you know those who have dealt with the Carribean Madness on the regular and can guide you thru NOT doing anything stupid like paying for a 10 min blowjob for 3000 peso.

    This is the fundamental reason why I pushed to link up with you, Grownman, Oakie and the other monger gents. * So you can keep me from doing something stupid. I've seen it happen to the biggest tycoon sharks in Vegas so it can easily happen to the best of men that's NOT familiar with the Carribean Madness. I can see the whole senario play it now.

    One of the boys from the group was drinking and eating good, hes feeling the music and here comes this sexy hunny that's just his type. From the outside looking in the fellas think this aint nothing but a fucking sea donkey OR at best a basic chic. But to him she's his "exact" type, as hes feeling nice from the good company and weather. He'll probably already have taken his viagra so now its Mr. Nasty time. He don't want to lose this hunny dip as hes now harder then chinese algebra. So what's the cost? She replies 250 United States Dollars (WTF). Now caught in the carribean haze, his thought process is, hell I paid more then that for a regular date with an older upscale fatty in the states and I don't feel like negotiating because I need this nut so fuck it lets do this. He pays the entry fee, gives her 2 pumps and a apology and she walks out less then 3 hours later coming up like fat rat with the look of I got this sucker.

    Crazier part is that the next day dude is happy about his 2 pumps and a apology nut and brags to the gents like yeah I smashed that. Guys in his group tell him you paid WAY to much, this what you shouldve gave her BUT he don't care. Like J. G. Wentworth says, "Its his money", hes on vacation and that 2 min nut was worth it. He'll go on to start thinking about wifing the hoe up and putting her on the western union "sucker", I mean "love" train. You know because down there money will buy her love and loyalty to him as she'll bombard him with endless "Te Quiero" messages and promises that she won't deal with any other gringo or guys while hes away.

    And just like that ALL logic and common sense gets thrown out the window as The Carribean Madness has now taken hold of him.

    So yeah, don't be that guy!!

  8. #33107

    Curious to see what has happened

    I am going back in a couple weeks- based on the continued discussion of rates on here I am assuming that the Hennesy and cola crowd have been working their magic again. Mongering at home has got more expensive too with less selection since COVID started but frankly it's better here than the last few times I went to Sosua. I don't go to Sosua to monger as much as to drink with my friends so I don't chase with the same ardor I used to. I might try the SA or Cupid route this winter. The market will return to normal sooner or later. For now if I run into decent pussy at a decent price I will bite. Otherwise I will let them find me. Or not. Does anyone know if Avianca is still flying to Bogota out of Santo Domingo- one thing seems for sure. If I want to see what has happened I will have to see for myself.

  9. #33106
    Quote Originally Posted by GrownMan1  [View Original Post]
    See what I mean. This is a good example of quality going down yet prices going up. $250 for three hours give me a break. Most of those chicas have more hits on their body than a Mayweather fight. I can't get mad at the chicas. With all the extra expenses they have to pay and all.
    You are probably wondering why I didn't save him from overpaying? I've learned over the last couple years to let a guy pay for his fantasy and let him enjoy it on his terms. Most have more money than time. Most of the overpayers look at me crazy for not doing it.

  10. #33105
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    There are tons of casas that are known for A1 service and tons of guys that have taken chicks to their room after being at a restaurant or bar and gotten robbed or had a scam run on them that say otherwise. You may think you are doing something that is going to get you a better experience, but it is all luck of the draw as to how your experience goes.

    Like when people keep wild animals as pets. They feed them everyday and give them lots of love, but you still hear stories in the news of those mfs ripping their faces off every now and then. Hookers are wild animals, not stuffed animals. Because you fed them and gave them drink, or paid their rent does not mean shit. Proceed with caution.
    I had my first bad experience with a chica my first trip to the DR, near Juan Dolio. I had this cute girl I met at a bar. We had drinks, so appetizers and sat for a couple of hours. Then went to the room, she did a blow job for about 2 minutes then stopped and said she wanted more $$, after already agreeing on a price. She threatened to call the police, I said go ahead. I called the security guard at the hotel, I didn't understand why he didn't drag her ass out. I was pissed at him, and started yelling at him. In hindsight, and after reading the forum, I know that wasn't the thing to do. I gave her about $10 US above what I had already paid and told her to get out, which she did.

    I really only had one other time this happened in the Sue. No drinks, or dinner, just negotiated before going to the room. Her attitude changed when we got to the room, However, I gave it to her in the ass, gave her about $10 extra and told her to get out. I was staying in a small condo complex, and had been friendly with the security staff, so they probably would have thrown her out if I asked.

    As far as overnight, several days, I won't do that at first, rarely do it at all. Only short term at first, then If the attitude is good, I will call for a return, then if I enjoy her time, maybe spend a day or two at the beach. I have a couple on my list if this crazy virus ends. I have been to the DR about 10 times, mostly good fun, the problem chicas have been minimal, I guess I just consider that part of the game.

  11. #33104
    Quote Originally Posted by MrGogo  [View Original Post]
    Most were grouped up, wearing spandex booty shorts and long fake eyelashes. They ranged from the ugly fat girl who wanted 100 usd to cute and nicely shaped who wanted 150 usd. One guy in out group paid 3 k pesos for a ten minute blowjob. Another guy paid 250 usd for 3 hours. These are rich guy who don't visit Sosua often and have big money.
    See what I mean. This is a good example of quality going down yet prices going up. $250 for three hours give me a break. Most of those chicas have more hits on their body than a Mayweather fight. I can't get mad at the chicas. With all the extra expenses they have to pay and all.

  12. #33103
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    There are tons of casas that are known for A1 service and tons of guys that have taken chicks to their room after being at a restaurant or bar and gotten robbed or had a scam run on them that say otherwise. You may think you are doing something that is going to get you a better experience, but it is all luck of the draw as to how your experience goes.

    Like when people keep wild animals as pets. They feed them everyday and give them lots of love, but you still hear stories in the news of those mfs ripping their faces off every now and then. Hookers are wild animals, not stuffed animals. Because you fed them and gave them drink, or paid their rent does not mean shit. Proceed with caution.
    People are different. And this is good. Some people like to spend time with the girls outside the hotel room, some people only like to fu* What is the problem? I never got robbed because I was in a restaurant with a girl LOL.

    When hookers are only "wild animals" for you then you have a problem. You are scared, right? But this girls are just entertainer.

  13. #33102
    Quote Originally Posted by GrownMan1  [View Original Post]
    I think it began strongly enforce about 2016. During that time the current female mayor with backing from the capital; aggressively Increased persecution of the SW. Many locals wanted things to stay the same. That decision cost her The next election. That election took place just prior to the Covid pandemic.

    The new mayor was supposedly in support of the local businesses that did not want the harassment of chicas to continue. It went viral after he won the election chicas were celebrating in the streets. However, once in office nothing changed. The closing of Classico, City lights, Bourbon Street, and Rumbas were all politically targeted for closing. So not only was the chicas being targeted; businesses that catered to that type of crowd in that area were shut down. Rumbas has adapted however they cannot control the harassment of the police.

    Guys like myself and many others who have made it a custom to going to the Sue have learned to adapt. New guys have dealt with was given to them not knowing what they missed. As Gogo stated The police targeted the Chicas and left the tourist alone. Believe it or not this cycle has been working and the Sue has still been a hotspot for P4 P. But the air is slowly deflating..
    Willie the Mayor also owns Classico's last time I checked. There have been rumors for two weeks of Classico's opening but it hasn't happened yet.

    This weekend is Halloween and many events are planned in Sosua so it will be a test. If Classico's doesn't open it probably won't for awhile. Also visited a couple of nice after hour spots in Sosua. Sharks is nice and the Casino was packed.

    Ramona's was packed also Saturday night to celebrate her birthday. My favorite spot is the Treehouse 2, close to kings. Old school r&b DJ, nice looking girls and good food. Last trip there in August pulled a nice one who fit my plan. She was sitting in Tree House 2 at a table by herself, check. I don't like chicas ganged up. She was sipping wine, check. Brown Dominicana dressed professionally, check check. While I was plotting my move my partner snuck over to her but came back after 5 minutes. He said she wanted 3 k TLN, bingo. I said go get her or I will, and he waved his hand like he didn't want her and I pounced. I did my interview to see if she was crazy and we headed to the exit. At the room we had some rum and she took a shower. Sex was average but she had a nice attitude. We had another drink when she said she was hungry and could I give her money for a hamburger. Ok, I get it plus I was tired and tipsy. Here sweetie take the 3 k and go get a hamburger and we will end this, call me tomorrow. She was sweet and cool to hang with but 3 k is my top price, thanks for a good 3 hours. This trip I didn't see any girls who fit my check list. Most were grouped up, wearing spandex booty shorts and long fake eyelashes. They ranged from the ugly fat girl who wanted 100 usd to cute and nicely shaped who wanted 150 usd. One guy in out group paid 3 k pesos for a ten minute blowjob. Another guy paid 250 usd for 3 hours. These are rich guy who don't visit Sosua often and have big money. Overall it was good trip but mostly I spent my time keeping my buddies safe and watching the show.

    I did have something special happen on my last day. A white girl walking her dog. We hung out till 2 am club hopping as she only drank juices. She is my new buddy so I really can't say more. The SU still surprises me sometimes.

  14. #33101
    Quote Originally Posted by MadDin19  [View Original Post]
    Only "ficky ficky" is boring. I can have the same at home. Spending time in a restaurant or a bar with a nice girl before going to my room is better. And you will get a better service.
    There are tons of casas that are known for A1 service and tons of guys that have taken chicks to their room after being at a restaurant or bar and gotten robbed or had a scam run on them that say otherwise. You may think you are doing something that is going to get you a better experience, but it is all luck of the draw as to how your experience goes.

    Like when people keep wild animals as pets. They feed them everyday and give them lots of love, but you still hear stories in the news of those mfs ripping their faces off every now and then. Hookers are wild animals, not stuffed animals. Because you fed them and gave them drink, or paid their rent does not mean shit. Proceed with caution.

  15. #33100
    Quote Originally Posted by IronQuinn  [View Original Post]
    On a couple occasions I sat down with a girl on the beach for lunch. There were never any "sad life stories". We just enjoyed the company, lots of laughs. I usually had a sandwich, and they would have the same, or a fish, never anything extravagant. Afterward, we'd go to the hotel and work off that meal. I never paid more than 2 K pesos, girls usually stayed a little longer after the fact to chat, and talk of money never came up for lost time while eating. So, it comes down to who you're with and your own personality. The hardcore girls are obvious, and easy to stay away from. In fact, on three separate occasions, I had two girls buy me a drink, and one bought me an ice cream at the place on the corner before heading back to the hotel. I didn't have any bad experiences, and the selection was always good. No, there weren't 200 girls on the street at any given time, but you don't need a selection that big to find some great ones. I had a great time while I was there, and I know other first timers would as well. Just have to choose wisely. Stick to the Haitian girls for a much better experience.
    Yes, the Haitian girls have always been the backup plan when Dominicans aren't on my plan. Haitians are more appreciative, less problems and better in bed IMO.

    If you can get them to buy you drinks, make you laugh and less than 2 k, that's a win win. Sounds like you found GFE in Sosua, very rare nowadays. But I have noticed my last couple trips to Sosua, even the Haitian girls becoming more business like.

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