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  1. #32685

    Information is indeed King

    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    I never believe that shit. I always assume that everyone on this site are just banging WG.
    Excellent life report below Oakie!

    I, and although I cannot speak for them, other readers appreciate the insights into your pussy operations. I live on the South Coast, East Side. So when I traveled to Sosua, I fucked when I wanted. I did not worry about the background of the girl involved. One was from the street, one from a bar and the other a waitress in a restaurant that I met after her shift. They all received DOP from me. Cash. Efectivo. You know, the suggestion that all the experts suggest. I choose not to reinvent the wheel.

    My income is limited also. But I stacked, wrapped and invested my flow well during a brief period of working. That is what allows me to own a vehicle. So I am good money wise. I spend my money how I like. But I choose not to spend the majority of it on girls (of any type of designation or description). Like you, I do not have to. The money I do spend (at home) is much less than the money I have to spend when I travel. And both are not even close to what travelers report they are paying.

    Sousa, Puerto Plata, Cabarete, Nagua, Boca Chica, San Pedro, San Cristobal, Bani, La Vega, Bonao, Moca, Santiago, Higuey, Hato Mayor, Boca de Yuma are just some of the places off the top of my head I have visited since living on the island. Barahona and Punta Cana have always been two of my favorite beach spots on the island. You see, I have put a few kilometers on the Gran Jefe Mobile since I got it!

    Barter: exchange (goods or services) for other goods or services without using money.

    "My contribution is picking up tabs for birthday parties, bars / restaurants, and the odd visit to the supermarket" - Oakie.

    My guess is that you pay cash for all the things in the above list. Me too! I stick with cash. Not really down on the barter game. I'm a business man. And I keep my transactions at arm length using money. I have a group a regulars. Details of my operations can be found all over the forum and in my user blog. So, I will not repeat them here in the Sosua Forum. But a review of my blog will give insight into my pussy operations on the South coast that I have been running on the South Coast since I moved onto the island.

    True game broken down to it's most simply element is giving a girl your "non-sexual" attention in return for them to give you there "sexual attention". That is how you get pure free pussy. Some post up in here they run game of that type. Others operate pure play for pay. Some do a combination of both. But I do not look down on others for how they get their pussy.

    "No need to start a meter running, and tick off a menu before you bed down with a chica. " - Oakie.

    You are right, have figured it out. But I knew how I wanted to run my operations since day one moving to the island. I have never had a complaint about starting a meter running or tick off a menu. Even with prostitutes. Never been my style. But you know that, since you have read all my posts carefully and demonstrated your knowledge of them by making several quotes without the need to even refer to the original text.

    But since we are correcting, I'll state that you took my quote below out of context. Here is the context of what I said:

    Quote Originally Posted by SubCmdr  [View Original Post]
    I can't agree with you there. I have yet to meet a girl smarter than I am or quite honestly a man either. But maybe it is just that I have a overly positive opinion about my own mental abilities. LOL!
    And here is a Man in the arena that understood it:

    Quote Originally Posted by Tempoecorto  [View Original Post]
    Jajaja. Nothing like a little sense of humor. Even when it is self-elevating rather than self deprecating.
    Just one more quote from you to close things out:

    Quote Originally Posted by Oakie  [View Original Post]
    Tipping and gifting policy has been hotly debated here for years, and some posts are just thinly veiled knocks at other posters who have an opposite view on the issue.
    Nah, brother. Nothing is thinly veiled with you. You talk a good talk when it comes to diplomacy. But if you could play basketball or tennis you would understand that when you are responding to me your elbows are sharp under the basket while we are gaining position for the rebound. And you are hitting straight serves to the body.

    We all in for the pussy. We don't love the girls! Vive Republica Dominicana! What a country! I shall now return to my regularly scheduled enjoyment of life. LOL!

  2. #32684
    Quote Originally Posted by SubCmdr  [View Original Post]
    Most interesting that we have individuals that say this:

    Have anything at all to say about the prostitution market that would not be strictly an opinion. Did I get it straight this time?.
    Yep you clarified your misquote of my post.

    Remember, The Man in the Arena once said, "If I post up something that is not accurate then I should be corrected (but that never happens). Why? I keep my game tight and my information accurate".

    As for info on the SP situation here, check back on my posts.

    Have you ever heard of bartering? It's something similar to shacking up with a GF or a wife. You provide certain incentives, and if you're lucky, they return in kind! No need to start a meter running, and tick off a menu before you bed down with a chica.

    We have a close group of chicas in our social circle. Almost all have some kind of job, bartending, serving, selling clothes, nail salon, or otherwise making ends meet. They almost all moonlight by selling sex to ex pats regulars and generous tourists, so they don't look to me for any regular income. My contribution is picking up tabs for birthday parties, bars / restaurants, and the odd visit to the supermarket.

    I'm on a limited, but manageable income, so I monitor my expenses on a daily basis, and once I hit my budget I cool off for a while.

    In return I'm surrounded by beautiful chicas, who I can party with almost at will. If I do indulge, I hand over a propina, that doesn't demean her worth. But still "Dominican pricing" LOL.

    For my first 7 years of visiting here I fucked scores of hookers, and enjoyed every minute it. But as I said, once you get organized here, there's no need to go to clubs, casas or massage parlors, negotiate with street hoes. Or pay for manicures, pedicures, laundry and good old home cooking!

    I would imagine you have figured it all out by now, since you claim, speaking of quotes, "I have yet to meet a girl smarter than I am or quite honestly a man either."

    Good for you, Einstein! LOL.

    But, we all decide to pay for pussy in our own way.

  3. #32683
    Quote Originally Posted by Oakie  [View Original Post]
    As an example, one of our prolific posters here who constantly decries "critics" is probably one of the most critical posters we have, LOL. But Trip Reports, not opinions, are King here, and I thank you once again for yours!
    Most interesting that we have individuals that say this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Oakie  [View Original Post]
    Just for the record, I posted as how "I haven't picked up a hooker here in 6 years". Likewise I haven't actually "negotiated" a price for pussy, either. When you live here, you operate differently. But everybody knows we all pay for pussy, one way or the other, and I'm getting lots. But let's keep it straight, eh?
    Have anything at all to say about the prostitution market that would not be strictly an opinion. Did I get it straight this time? This is an excellent example of why men in the arena do not pay any attention to critics. Years of posting here you will not find a single negative word from me about a trip report that anyone has posted. Unfortunately, I cannot file a trip report. Unless I fire up one of my vehicles and get on the road. And when I do that I have filed trip reports to various places that I have visited on the island. I live here (different part of the island). But I file life reports all the time about my observations and experiences here in the Dominican Republic. The interpersonal dynamics you see in the various posts. Well they are never going to change. But my opinions of things, well they do change. Some feel like disagreement when it comes to opinions should not happen. I am open to all views. But you do not have to be critical of another person to disagree with them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xpartan  [View Original Post]
    SubCmdr: Brothers. I don't expect everyone to agree with everything I say. Your views are fine and solid, so while I'll probably stick to my MO, it was interesting to see other POVs from 2 vets who actually live in the country. Just 2 clarifications to make sure other fellas don't get it wrong.
    2. I certainly didn't pay 1,000 DOP in 2019. I think it was 2014-2016 or something. From 2018 onward it was 1,500-2,500, IIRC.
    Monger on!
    It's all good Brother. Honestly, I do not learn much when I log in here. It is mostly for entertainment. My apologies if my aggressive writing style gave offence. It was not my intention. The prices you gave in your update were appreciated. Factual information from "boots on the ground" experiences are useful. Opinions, well everyone has those.

  4. #32682
    Quote Originally Posted by Xpartan  [View Original Post]
    Oakie and SubCmdr: Brothers. I don't expect everyone to agree with everything I say. Your views are fine and solid, so while I'll probably stick to my MO, it was interesting to see other POVs from 2 vets who actually live in the country. Just 2 clarifications to make sure other fellas don't get it wrong.

    1. Look I'm not a total dick. LOL. I do tip waiters, maids / housekeepers, drivers (unless we agreed on a firm price beforehand), and other service stuff. I believe in subsidizing low-wage employees who go out of their way to serve me. WG's are a different matter, but I'm not going into that again.

    2. I certainly didn't pay 1,000 DOP in 2019. I think it was 2014-2016 or something. From 2018 onward it was 1,500-2,500, IIRC.

    Monger on!
    Relax XPartan, nothing personal against you.

    Tipping and gifting policy has been hotly debated here for years, and some posts are just thinly veiled knocks at other posters who have an opposite view on the issue.

    As an example, one of our prolific posters here who constantly decries "critics" is probably one of the most critical posters we have, LOL.

    But Trip Reports, not opinions, are King here, and I thank you once again for yours!

    Also thanks for clearing up your stated "no tipping policy".

    Peace!

  5. #32681

    To be honest, I come here to learn, not teach or preach. LOL

    Oakie and SubCmdr: Brothers. I don't expect everyone to agree with everything I say. Your views are fine and solid, so while I'll probably stick to my MO, it was interesting to see other POVs from 2 vets who actually live in the country. Just 2 clarifications to make sure other fellas don't get it wrong.

    1. Look I'm not a total dick. LOL. I do tip waiters, maids / housekeepers, drivers (unless we agreed on a firm price beforehand), and other service stuff. I believe in subsidizing low-wage employees who go out of their way to serve me. WG's are a different matter, but I'm not going into that again.

    2. I certainly didn't pay 1,000 DOP in 2019. I think it was 2014-2016 or something. From 2018 onward it was 1,500-2,500, IIRC.

    Monger on!

  6. #32680
    Have any of the experts thought that the poster may not intend to give gifts to prostitutes? Nah, that would require out of the box thinking. If you want to give a prostitute something, give her a tip.

    If you want to give an girl you do not consider a prostitute a gift give her something small, inexpensive and useful she cannot get her hands on easily here in the Dominican Republic. But what do I know. I am not a expert on prostitutes like our frequent visitors or those who live in puta pueblos but do not frequent prostitutes but can tell you all about them. I live here. LOL!

    Quote Originally Posted by PilotPete  [View Original Post]
    What are popular small gifts for the lady's? I brought a few small vibrators and sets of panties to Colombia and that was popular but even basic vibrators aren't cheap. Ideas?

  7. #32679
    Quote Originally Posted by TomJackin  [View Original Post]
    Pesos are the ideal gift.
    They just don't get it. Say I did not bring any pesos, but I brought these vibrators and panties and see how far that gets you. No need to bring gifts to a horehouse.

  8. #32678
    Quote Originally Posted by PilotPete  [View Original Post]
    What are popular small gifts for the lady's? Ideas?
    Pesos are the ideal gift.

  9. #32677
    Quote Originally Posted by SavePros321  [View Original Post]
    That video is hilarious. A bunch of broke dudes all crammed in one spot trying to save a buck. Their stimulus check could only cover the plane ticket, lmao! This is the quintessential "Weekend Baller"!
    LOL!

    But the USA Weekend warriors are a staple of the local economy here. They are still showing up, albeit in lesser numbers right now.

    The locals here only complain there's not enough of them these days to keep the hotels and bars filled up.

    Most complaints about them come from other mongers who blame them for spoiling the market. Likewise they complain about high "asking prices".

    But who pays hookers, market vendors or used car salesmen their initial asking prices anyway?

  10. #32676

    Gifts

    What are popular small gifts for the lady's? I brought a few small vibrators and sets of panties to Colombia and that was popular but even basic vibrators aren't cheap. Ideas?

  11. #32675

    Not a report or guide that informs readers concisely about a complex issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Xpartan  [View Original Post]
    I'm confused.
    That is ok. Many are.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xpartan  [View Original Post]
    1. What does my splurging on a villa or condo have to do with the price of a pussy? How does it affect anyone or anything except my wallet?
    The answer to both of of your questions is what you do with your money does not affect what anyone else does or the prices in any other market.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xpartan  [View Original Post]
    2. "One person does not make a market. " Fine. How many do? I just shared my thoughts as respectfully as I could. You don't believe that overpaying for pussy leads to higher prices. I do, I've seen it.
    It takes more than one person to make a market. Unless you are trading stocks and have been given "market maker" status. Do you have market maker status in the Sosua pussy market of the Dominican Republic? You have seen prices go up. You cannot say that has to do with others over paying for pussy. See my answer to your first question. And feel free to address the overall inflation of goods and services in the Dominican Republic from 2008 until 2021. You know over the last few years: 13.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xpartan  [View Original Post]
    3. I personally paid 800 pesos for ST in 2008 or 2009. I admit, I was a little liberal with "a few years ago" bit. However, a 1,000 DOP was indeed a few years ago. I paid that. Me.
    One person does not make a market. We have agreement on that. My numbers were from a trip to Sosua around 2015/2016. I am not accusing you of lying on your dick. But your clarification of the time frames helps. You have proven my point. According to you I paid 1500 DOP for a ST in 2015/2016. And then you still paid 1000 DOP in 2019. My over payment for pussy did not affect your market one bit now did it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Xpartan  [View Original Post]
    4. Are you seriously telling me that 5,000 DOP for ST is the new normal? Well, I haven't been to the DR in a couple of years, but since you live there you tell me. If not, then what are we arguing about?
    I do not know what the market in Sosua for prostitutes is at the moment. I have only made one trip there. I live in the Dominican Republic, yes. But I live on the South Coast. East Side. And the last time I paid for a prostitute in early 2020 it was 1200 DOP for a short time. And even now I can pay 1500 DOP for a short time. So no, I am not telling you that 5,000 DOP for ST is the new normal on the South Coast on East Side!

    Quote Originally Posted by Xpartan  [View Original Post]
    I don't. It's just that my comment surely didn't warrant a white paper on political economy, LOL.
    I am not trying to nullify anything that you said Brother. We are both putting the facts related to our experiences out there. White Paper or no, you are still able to fuck who you like, where you like, how you like and pay what you like! As can I. And what I pay will not affect what you pay and what you pay will not affect what I pay.

    I do not have the exact number of the number of prostitutes in Sosua or the number of Sexual Tourists making deals with them. There is not centralized market. So we are left with the reports that Brothers file up in here. And I thank all that file trip reports! And if I see something I have a question about it then I am going to ask. And for your information, I write dark papers. Always have. Always will.

    Glad you enjoyed my work. Your serve!

  12. #32674
    Quote Originally Posted by JimJames  [View Original Post]
    That video is hilarious. A bunch of broke dudes all crammed in one spot trying to save a buck. Their stimulus check could only cover the plane ticket, lmao! This is the quintessential "Weekend Baller"!

  13. #32673
    Quote Originally Posted by Xpartan  [View Original Post]
    1. When I encounter a great performer, I try to build relationships. It doesn't always work, but in my humble experience gifts work better than cash for that purpose.

    2. Oakie, I can assure you I'm not unionized, LOL. Plus I don't "chauffeur" them, and I book villas for myself, not them. Let's drop the hyperbole.

    3. I don't make rules, only suggestions.

    Peace.
    Peace, amigo.

    But a couple things.

    Service providers offer everything from a GFE fantasy, to a cheap quickie. Does a steakhouse spoil the market for McDonalds? Or vice versa?

    If a monger comes to Sosua for cheap and plentiful pussy, maybe he should be figuring in the cost of his travel and accommodation into the mix?

    As for tipping, Sosua runs on propinas and they are expected from tourists. It's a fact of life.

    I tip the housekeeper, get extra towels and stuff, and the chico who hauls the 5 gallon agua up to my room from across the street. He seems to always know when I'm about to run out.

    The bar / restaurant owners here pay servers as little as 200 pesos a shift. They have to make it up by being nice to you.

    And it's not wise to disappoint a server who brings you your food, prepared in a back room. LOL.

  14. #32672

    That's a bit perplexing

    Quote Originally Posted by SubCmdr  [View Original Post]
    First you wrote the above statement. Then you wrote the one below:
    I'm confused.

    1. What does my splurging on a villa or condo have to do with the price of a pussy? How does it affect anyone or anything except my wallet?

    2. "One person does not make a market. " Fine. How many do? I just shared my thoughts as respectfully as I could. You don't believe that overpaying for pussy leads to higher prices. I do, I've seen it.

    3. I personally paid 800 pesos for ST in 2008 or 2009. I admit, I was a little liberal with "a few years ago" bit. However, a 1,000 DOP was indeed a few years ago. I paid that. Me.

    4. Are you seriously telling me that 5,000 DOP for ST is the new normal? Well, I haven't been to the DR in a couple of years, but since you live there you tell me. If not, then what are we arguing about?

    Quote Originally Posted by SubCmdr  [View Original Post]
    Do not take it personally.
    I don't. It's just that my comment surely didn't warrant a white paper on political economy, LOL.

    Quote Originally Posted by Oakie
    Perhaps somebody could explain how taking out a girl and buying her or her family something nice or bringing gifts from the States, or splurging on a 3 day vacation, somehow equates with a "no tipping" policy.

    The monger union here seem to have no difficulty giving the chicas, fake hair, perfume, dresses, chauffeuring them to dinners in good restaurants, private villa accommodation, but then claim that giving a chica a propina for great mind blowing service is somehow "spoiling the market".

    Sounds more like rules for thee but not for me.
    1. When I encounter a great performer, I try to build relationships. It doesn't always work, but in my humble experience gifts work better than cash for that purpose.

    2. Oakie, I can assure you I'm not unionized, LOL. Plus I don't "chauffeur" them, and I book villas for myself, not them. Let's drop the hyperbole.

    3. I don't make rules, only suggestions.

    Peace.

  15. #32671

    The best hair is actually real

    My understanding is the best gifts are actually real human hair. The girls have it weaved into the hair they actually grow on their heads to add length and body. Now there is actual fake hair which is synthetic. But the girls that purchase in the market that I know, they know the difference.

    Quote Originally Posted by Oakie  [View Original Post]
    Just for the record, I posted as how "I haven't picked up a hooker here in 6 years". Likewise I haven't actually "negotiated" a price for pussy, either.
    But everybody knows we all pay for pussy, one way or the other, and I'm getting lots.
    No need to brag on your dick my man. You referred to your sexual partners as "service providers" in another post. So excuse me for the confusion.

    The only posts I read about people coming to the Dominican Republic and not being happy seem to wind up here in the Sosua section. The complaints are universally about the quality or prices of the pussy they seek. Seems strange to me in a country where prostitution is legal and sexual exchange between men and girls is baked into the culture.

    Everyone that I know seems to get all the pussy they want in the Dominican Republic. Those are reports I get from people with "boots on the ground". I do not make a distinction between "prostitutes" and "all other girls". If individuals negotiate prices up front, gives afterwards, or wines and dines before there most certainly an exchange of some kind going on there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Oakie  [View Original Post]
    When you live here, you operate differently.
    And that my man is something we can agree on. Been doing it differently for years and writing about it all over this forum. Even in Sosua during my one trip I had a great time. In Sosua I don't need to make myself feel better by saying something like "I haven't picked up a hooker". I don't live in Sosua so I have not problem with "prostitutes". One that I met she was new and I actually met her on the street, got her number and she came by the next afternoon. She was a lot of fun and a sweetheart. I had one other that we made a deal in a bar. The rest there was no money discussed. I just gave afterwards and the girls were appreciative. But who am I to tell any man how to spend his time off purpose or his money? I don't. If you like it I love it!

    Is that keeping it straight enough for ya?

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