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  1. #32592
    Quote Originally Posted by Xpartan  [View Original Post]
    1. When I encounter a great performer, I try to build relationships. It doesn't always work, but in my humble experience gifts work better than cash for that purpose.

    2. Oakie, I can assure you I'm not unionized, LOL. Plus I don't "chauffeur" them, and I book villas for myself, not them. Let's drop the hyperbole.

    3. I don't make rules, only suggestions.

    Peace.
    Peace, amigo.

    But a couple things.

    Service providers offer everything from a GFE fantasy, to a cheap quickie. Does a steakhouse spoil the market for McDonalds? Or vice versa?

    If a monger comes to Sosua for cheap and plentiful pussy, maybe he should be figuring in the cost of his travel and accommodation into the mix?

    As for tipping, Sosua runs on propinas and they are expected from tourists. It's a fact of life.

    I tip the housekeeper, get extra towels and stuff, and the chico who hauls the 5 gallon agua up to my room from across the street. He seems to always know when I'm about to run out.

    The bar / restaurant owners here pay servers as little as 200 pesos a shift. They have to make it up by being nice to you.

    And it's not wise to disappoint a server who brings you your food, prepared in a back room. LOL.

  2. #32591

    That's a bit perplexing

    Quote Originally Posted by SubCmdr  [View Original Post]
    First you wrote the above statement. Then you wrote the one below:
    I'm confused.

    1. What does my splurging on a villa or condo have to do with the price of a pussy? How does it affect anyone or anything except my wallet?

    2. "One person does not make a market. " Fine. How many do? I just shared my thoughts as respectfully as I could. You don't believe that overpaying for pussy leads to higher prices. I do, I've seen it.

    3. I personally paid 800 pesos for ST in 2008 or 2009. I admit, I was a little liberal with "a few years ago" bit. However, a 1,000 DOP was indeed a few years ago. I paid that. Me.

    4. Are you seriously telling me that 5,000 DOP for ST is the new normal? Well, I haven't been to the DR in a couple of years, but since you live there you tell me. If not, then what are we arguing about?

    Quote Originally Posted by SubCmdr  [View Original Post]
    Do not take it personally.
    I don't. It's just that my comment surely didn't warrant a white paper on political economy, LOL.

    Quote Originally Posted by Oakie
    Perhaps somebody could explain how taking out a girl and buying her or her family something nice or bringing gifts from the States, or splurging on a 3 day vacation, somehow equates with a "no tipping" policy.

    The monger union here seem to have no difficulty giving the chicas, fake hair, perfume, dresses, chauffeuring them to dinners in good restaurants, private villa accommodation, but then claim that giving a chica a propina for great mind blowing service is somehow "spoiling the market".

    Sounds more like rules for thee but not for me.
    1. When I encounter a great performer, I try to build relationships. It doesn't always work, but in my humble experience gifts work better than cash for that purpose.

    2. Oakie, I can assure you I'm not unionized, LOL. Plus I don't "chauffeur" them, and I book villas for myself, not them. Let's drop the hyperbole.

    3. I don't make rules, only suggestions.

    Peace.

  3. #32590

    The best hair is actually real

    My understanding is the best gifts are actually real human hair. The girls have it weaved into the hair they actually grow on their heads to add length and body. Now there is actual fake hair which is synthetic. But the girls that purchase in the market that I know, they know the difference.

    Quote Originally Posted by Oakie  [View Original Post]
    Just for the record, I posted as how "I haven't picked up a hooker here in 6 years". Likewise I haven't actually "negotiated" a price for pussy, either.
    But everybody knows we all pay for pussy, one way or the other, and I'm getting lots.
    No need to brag on your dick my man. You referred to your sexual partners as "service providers" in another post. So excuse me for the confusion.

    The only posts I read about people coming to the Dominican Republic and not being happy seem to wind up here in the Sosua section. The complaints are universally about the quality or prices of the pussy they seek. Seems strange to me in a country where prostitution is legal and sexual exchange between men and girls is baked into the culture.

    Everyone that I know seems to get all the pussy they want in the Dominican Republic. Those are reports I get from people with "boots on the ground". I do not make a distinction between "prostitutes" and "all other girls". If individuals negotiate prices up front, gives afterwards, or wines and dines before there most certainly an exchange of some kind going on there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Oakie  [View Original Post]
    When you live here, you operate differently.
    And that my man is something we can agree on. Been doing it differently for years and writing about it all over this forum. Even in Sosua during my one trip I had a great time. In Sosua I don't need to make myself feel better by saying something like "I haven't picked up a hooker". I don't live in Sosua so I have not problem with "prostitutes". One that I met she was new and I actually met her on the street, got her number and she came by the next afternoon. She was a lot of fun and a sweetheart. I had one other that we made a deal in a bar. The rest there was no money discussed. I just gave afterwards and the girls were appreciative. But who am I to tell any man how to spend his time off purpose or his money? I don't. If you like it I love it!

    Is that keeping it straight enough for ya?

  4. #32589
    Quote Originally Posted by SubCmdr  [View Original Post]
    In fact there is a individual who lives in Sosua that posts regularly that has not paid for pussy for six years according to a self report that can be found in the Politics of the Dominican Republic section. Standing ovation and thunderous applause to that guy! LOL!
    Just for the record, I posted as how "I haven't picked up a hooker here in 6 years". Likewise I haven't actually "negotiated" a price for pussy, either. When you live here, you operate differently.

    But everybody knows we all pay for pussy, one way or the other, and I'm getting lots.

    But let's keep it straight, eh?

  5. #32588
    Quote Originally Posted by JimJames  [View Original Post]
    20 guys in a 2 bedroom apartment is a good way of not overpaying. Same goes for renting hoes. Don't overpay.

  6. #32587
    Quote Originally Posted by Xpartan  [View Original Post]
    Thank you for your report!

    Please don't take it the wrong way (it's your money and who has the right to tell you what to do with it, right?) But please understand that many folks here go to their favorite destinations several times a year. So when you arrive for a short visit and pay gringo prices, next time they'll ask for more. Even worse, they'll brag about the overpaying gringo to their girlfriends (perhaps exaggerating a bit too), and now their girlfriends start asking more. It's a vicious cycle. It may not bother you on your 3-day visit, but other mongers who frequent the place. It will throw them off their budget. Just a few years ago, Sosua working girls were charging 800 pesos, then 1,000 pesos, then it was 1,500, then 2,000 and 2,500 and the more they can get away with, the colder and more hardened the service becomes. Asking 5,000 for ST (that's closer to $90 than $80, by the way), man, that chick has some balls on her.

    When I appreciate the service, I may take the girl out and buy her or her kid something nice. I may give her a little gift I bring from the States. But I always negotiate, and I do not tip. Just understand, they ain't going to respect you more for overpaying. If anything, they'll think less of you, not more.

    Again, don't take it personally and I do appreciate your report!
    I think if the pricing has been going the way you say it has the economy for women was fucked long before I arrived, but I apologies on that one. Hopefully I can get accurate pricing info before I leave for my next destination.

  7. #32586
    Quote Originally Posted by Xpartan  [View Original Post]
    Thank you for your report!

    Please don't take it the wrong way (it's your money and who has the right to tell you what to do with it, right?) But please understand that many folks here go to their favorite destinations several times a year. So when you arrive for a short visit and pay gringo prices, next time they'll ask for more. Even worse, they'll brag about the overpaying gringo to their girlfriends (perhaps exaggerating a bit too), and now their girlfriends start asking more. It's a vicious cycle. It may not bother you on your 3-day visit, but other mongers who frequent the place. It will throw them off their budget. Just a few years ago, Sosua working girls were charging 800 pesos, then 1,000 pesos, then it was 1,500, then 2,000 and 2,500 and the more they can get away with, the colder and more hardened the service becomes. Asking 5,000 for ST (that's closer to $90 than $80, by the way), man, that chick has some balls on her.

    When I appreciate the service, I may take the girl out and buy her or her kid something nice. I may give her a little gift I bring from the States. But I always negotiate, and I do not tip. Just understand, they ain't going to respect you more for overpaying. If anything, they'll think less of you, not more.

    Again, don't take it personally and I do appreciate your report!
    Perhaps somebody could explain how taking out a girl and buying her or her family something nice or bringing gifts from the States, or splurging on a 3 day vacation, somehow equates with a "no tipping" policy.

    The monger union here seem to have no difficulty giving the chicas, fake hair, perfume, dresses, chauffeuring them to dinners in good restaurants, private villa accommodation, but then claim that giving a chica a propina for great mind blowing service is somehow "spoiling the market".

    Sounds more like rules for thee but not for me.

    LOL.

  8. #32585

    A different opinion and way of looking at things

    Quote Originally Posted by Xpartan  [View Original Post]
    Maybe it's just me, but I tend to splurge on my short vacations, so a villa with a private pool to play with a chica doesn't sound like a bad idea to me. Also never rented a car in Sosua, cabs are cheap and plentiful, or motoconchos are dirt cheap for more adventurous.
    First you wrote the above statement. Then you wrote the one below:

    Quote Originally Posted by Xpartan  [View Original Post]
    Thank you for your report!

    Please don't take it the wrong way (it's your money and who has the right to tell you what to do with it, right?) But please understand that many folks here go to their favorite destinations several times a year. So when you arrive for a short visit and pay gringo prices, next time they'll ask for more. Even worse, they'll brag about the overpaying gringo to their girlfriends (perhaps exaggerating a bit too), and now their girlfriends start asking more. It's a vicious cycle. It may not bother you on your 3-day visit, but other mongers who frequent the place. It will throw them off their budget. Just a few years ago, Sosua working girls were charging 800 pesos, then 1,000 pesos, then it was 1,500, then 2,000 and 2,500 and the more they can get away with, the colder and more hardened the service becomes. Asking 5,000 for ST (that's closer to $90 than $80, by the way), man, that chick has some balls on her.

    When I appreciate the service, I may take the girl out and buy her or her kid something nice. I may give her a little gift I bring from the States. But I always negotiate, and I do not tip. Just understand, they ain't going to respect you more for overpaying. If anything, they'll think less of you, not more.

    Again, don't take it personally and I do appreciate your report!
    Since we are not taking things the wrong way, let us start with the DOP / USD exchange rate a few years ago compared to now 2021. I'll stipulate to whatever numbers you want to use. But DOP has lost value against the USD. Then add in the factor that the bottom fell out of the overall tourist market (of all types) in 2020. Check out that entire COVID-19 thing. You might have heard about it.

    Those are basic market facts for those who live on the island. If the product is not produced domestically then it has to be flown or shipped in. All the products or inputs to those products are paid for with USD. If the DOP slips against the USD all prices go up. That means that all the expenses of the girls selling pussy goes up. Expenses of a business goes up, customers pay increased prices. Even "dumb girls" understand that basic economic lesson.

    One person does not make a market. If you look at things logically, the girls have control of the market. Individuals are just showing up with a dick, exchanging pesos in one hand a grabbing drink in the other. The market is made by the entire group of participants. So any one individual who does not want to pay market prices does not have to. They can simply choose to not participate in the market or do their own private deals. Anyone who travels here multiple times a year over even just a few years can set up their own private market at whatever prices they choose to pay.

    In fact there is a individual who lives in Sosua that posts regularly that has not paid for pussy for six years according to a self report that can be found in the Politics of the Dominican Republic section. Standing ovation and thunderous applause to that guy! LOL!

    I have taken on the "one person over paying" theory more than once and showed the holes in that particular line of thinking multiple times.

    Please tell me when girls were charging 800 DOP for a ST just a few years ago? Because I have not been there for almost 5 or 6 years. And when I was there 1500 was the price I paid for ST and TLN. And my trip report is there to prove it. You see I have no problem paying for pussy. Or talking about it on ISG. Since we are here to share information on having sex with girls.

    On one hand you argue that is ok to pay what a individual wants to pay, then on the other hand you argue that same individual is harming every one else by paying a amount you choose not to pay. Last time I checked, an asking price was just that. Someone who negotiates pays what they negotiate not what the other party asks. Then you report that you give a tip (even though you do not give tips) by taking a girl out, buying her kid something or bringing a gift from their country of origin. This increase the price that you originally negotiated unless those gifts and treats are free.

    I know a lot of people who travel to Sosua. Of course I do not get into their business (how much they pay). And even if I did, if they like it, then I love it. No one complains to me about the time they have there. I only read about complaints here on ISG. Now, complaints are ok. But it seems a lot more bad stuff is reported on about Sosua in ISG than good stuff. It does not align with the information I am directly from people that I trust about the place.

    Do not take it personally. I appreciate your sharing of information. I hope you appreciate my insights on the points that you made about over payment for pussy in Sosua. Last time I checked prostitution was legal in the entire country of the Dominican Republic. That leaves anyone unhappy with Sosua an entire island to explore if paying for pussy is an activity you seek during the time you allow yourself time off from your purpose. Anyone who finds the market in Sosua unsatisfactory has options, even entire other countries.

    But after all, what do I know. I just live here. But I appreciate the views and opinions of all who don't. LOL!

  9. #32584

    Because not everyone goes for a 3-day vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by Vike604  [View Original Post]
    I paid $2500 for everyone else. I don't have a problem paying a little bit extra if it not only doesn't break 100 and the girl is attractive enough. What's the point of getting worked up over $20-$40 dollars when you're there to have a good time and relax.
    Thank you for your report!

    Please don't take it the wrong way (it's your money and who has the right to tell you what to do with it, right?) But please understand that many folks here go to their favorite destinations several times a year. So when you arrive for a short visit and pay gringo prices, next time they'll ask for more. Even worse, they'll brag about the overpaying gringo to their girlfriends (perhaps exaggerating a bit too), and now their girlfriends start asking more. It's a vicious cycle. It may not bother you on your 3-day visit, but other mongers who frequent the place. It will throw them off their budget. Just a few years ago, Sosua working girls were charging 800 pesos, then 1,000 pesos, then it was 1,500, then 2,000 and 2,500 and the more they can get away with, the colder and more hardened the service becomes. Asking 5,000 for ST (that's closer to $90 than $80, by the way), man, that chick has some balls on her.

    When I appreciate the service, I may take the girl out and buy her or her kid something nice. I may give her a little gift I bring from the States. But I always negotiate, and I do not tip. Just understand, they ain't going to respect you more for overpaying. If anything, they'll think less of you, not more.

    Again, don't take it personally and I do appreciate your report!

  10. #32583

    RE: Watch you manor.

    Quote Originally Posted by JimJames  [View Original Post]
    Check out the bong sitting on the kitchen counter at the 43 second mark of the video. Not sure if it's hookah or weed. If the owner showed up and smelled weed, that might explain why he was pissed and everyone left with their tails tucked between their legs.

  11. #32582
    Quote Originally Posted by DzikaBomba  [View Original Post]
    Now I understand why this Place is what it is. Shitty cold, professional Service and girls quoting crazy amounts of money. No Wonder they are asking 150 $ LT. Because its "only" 150 $ hahahah.

    Really crazy amounts for a country like DR.
    I paid $2500 for everyone else. I don't have a problem paying a little bit extra if it not only doesn't break 100 and the girl is attractive enough. What's the point of getting worked up over $20-$40 dollars when you're there to have a good time and relax.

  12. #32581
    Quote Originally Posted by JimJames  [View Original Post]
    That has to suck. Get kicked out, can't get no pussy, and still have to pay those chicks. I would have kicked their asses out too for not knowing how to keep a clean living space.

  13. #32580
    Quote Originally Posted by Vike604  [View Original Post]
    Paid 5000 DOP. She tried to talk to me in USD and I switched it to DOP... it was still only $80 USD
    Now I understand why this Place is what it is. Shitty cold, professional Service and girls quoting crazy amounts of money. No Wonder they are asking 150 $ LT. Because its "only" 150 $ hahahah.

    Really crazy amounts for a country like DR.

  14. #32579
    Quote Originally Posted by JimJames  [View Original Post]
    Anyone else view the posted video and has questions over the veracity of the location given? Like the owner arriving and speaking nothing but English the entire video.

  15. #32578

    Watch you manor.

    Quote Originally Posted by KobeMyMan  [View Original Post]
    Gents,

    I am visiting Sosua / Puerto Plata in a month for a bachelor party and staying in a villa. Any intel on how the talent is nowadays with covid and what the rates are? Looking for any and all advice. Thanks.
    https://youtu.be/n2hUW36jgw0

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