Sosua Reports

[KnickFan]

I don't know about that I have traveled all threw asia and with the younger generation it is defferent from what I have seen in asia. I have lived in Thailand for 10 yrs. And the hip hop culture have spread all over and if you are a young black guy from america you don't even have to pay for the girls in Thailand. Throw on you a throwback jersey, baggy pants, And watch them flock to you.

Now how ridiculous doesthat sound? I am a grown azz 38 year old professional black man. Having to throw on a wannabee thug persona to appease someone's perception of what a black person should look like is demeaning to say the least. It's the same as having to wave the "American" card, these are things done to counter my Black status. "Hey ladies I'm one of the good one's from the USA and eey's a Thug!"

Thank God for MLK, OBAMA ,and HIP HOP!

[Mr Gogo]

There is an outdoor bar on the same street as Classicos. It has wooden doors facing the sidewalk, then you walk along a path for about 25 feet to get to the bar area. The bar has a palm covered roof over it. Last time I was there (about a year ago) they had a stripper pole in the left hand corner of the place on a raised platform. The place had about 4 chicas behind the bar and some other chicas were sitting at the bar. The chica who was running the place is Haitian, with a nice rack. Supposedly they have rooms for massages there. The chicas there were mostly dominican with maybe two Haitian chicas. It is on the same side of the street as Classicos, when walking in the direction of the dive shop from Classicos, but before the dive shop.

Its funny because ive walked by that place 100 times and never went in.I always stick my head in then get out quick.Those big wooden doors always made me feel like it was a trap or something.Like they would close those doors and you would never be seen again.But im hitting sosua this weekend and im definetly going to check it out.

[Ug Man]

Jaosousa Quote:

There is an outdoor bar on the same street as Classicos. It has wooden doors facing the sidewalk, then you walk along a path for about 25 feet to get to the bar area. The bar has a palm covered roof over it. Last time I was there (about a year ago) they had a stripper pole in the left hand corner of the place on a raised platform. The place had about 4 chicas behind the bar and some other chicas were sitting at the bar. The chica who was running the place is Haitian, with a nice rack. Supposedly they have rooms for massages there. The chicas there were mostly dominican with maybe two Haitian chicas. It is on the same side of the street as Classicos, when walking in the direction of the dive shop from Classicos, but before the dive shop.

I think Jaosousa is talking about the hideaway. It was a massage place like he decribes, maybe 2 years ago? Now it's just a regular bar, I think Canadian owned. It was for sale recently, maybe still is. I came accross a link to the realtor about a month ago. I did take a girl out of there once, though not a Haitian.

[Uzinuzin]

I don't know about that. I have been all threw asia and I live in Thailand going on for 8 yrs. The hip hop culture has spread all over and if your a "young" black guy from america you don't have to pay a dime for a women in Thailand. Throw on you a sports jersey and baggy pants and watch them flock to you. I have seen this in Thailand, Singapore and I don't to even start on Japan.

Not sure how you came to be that popular in Thailand - they are generally very racist, even the slightest shade of darker colour gives them a feel of superiority. Their whole class system is based on various shade of their skins, girls from Isaan are generally a bit darker and they are so much discreminated against.
For WG in parlours, they are usuallyu priced based on, first colour then age.

[Jaosousa]

I used to ask "Tu eres haitiana?" but sometimes the chica would react badly if she was Dominican, as if I were insulting her. So now I ask "Ou pale Kreyol?".

There is an outdoor bar on the same street as Classicos. It has wooden doors facing the sidewalk, then you walk along a path for about 25 feet to get to the bar area. The bar has a palm covered roof over it. Last time I was there (about a year ago) they had a stripper pole in the left hand corner of the place on a raised platform. The place had about 4 chicas behind the bar and some other chicas were sitting at the bar. The chica who was running the place is Haitian, with a nice rack. Supposedly they have rooms for massages there. The chicas there were mostly dominican with maybe two Haitian chicas. It is on the same side of the street as Classicos, when walking in the direction of the dive shop from Classicos, but before the dive shop.

[Charles Pooter]

Learn a little Creole, or some words in French, if they understand Creole or French, they could be Haitian.

To say how are you, hello in Creole, using phonetics: Sac Pasay Nahbulay. Or in French something like (comment allez vous) pronounced some thing like: commay allay vou.

Tres bien merci, petit petit

As some of you may have noticed, I am now living permanently in the DR and I generally prefer to spend my limited time, pesos and sperm on haitianas rather than dominicanas. I can usually spot which is which, but many first-generation and some second-generation dominicanas look totally Haitian. I used to ask "Tu eres haitiana?" but sometimes the chica would react badly if she was Dominican, as if I were insulting her. So now I ask "Ou pale Kreyol?". If they are Dominican or out of touch with their Haitian roots they don't react or just think I am garbling something in Spanish. If they are still in touch enough to know some Kreyol then they are unlikely to be offended. And if they are Haitian their faces light up and I am off and running.

It is a sad situation but Knick Fan is totally correct in his analysis.

[Dirty228]

I don't know about that. I have been all threw asia and I live in Thailand going on for 8 yrs. The hip hop culture has spread all over and if your a "young" black guy from america you don't have to pay a dime for a women in Thailand. Throw on you a sports jersey and baggy pants and watch them flock to you. I have seen this in Thailand, Singapore and I don't to even start on Japan.

[Dirty228]

You are getting attacked for the Mannequin analogy but you speak the truth. Basically anywhere non white folks have been colonized or enslaved a color caste system has been set up. The Ironic thing is, the BLACKER the country the stronger the antiblack sentiment. Why is that? Because the blacker you are the more you want to distance your self from that. They are taught to hate anything alluding to their African roots. The rest of Latin America and also PR looks down own DOminicans because on average THEY are the Blackest.

Argentineans are held in highest esteem because they are the WHITEST. They are at the top of the hierarchy in terms of perceived wealth and beauty among Spanish speaking people on that side of the world. So you pointed out Mannequins and in Merxico Brazil and the other countries turn on the TV and count the # of Blacks you see. Do a google search on blanqueamiento.

It's the old divide and conquer strategy in full effect. Black slaves outnumbered their masters so they had to figure out a way to keep them from uniting. It mostly worked since most of the formerly conquered are still mentally enslaved, still deny or distance themselves from their African heritage.

Although Haiti was one of the few exceptions. First free former slave republic. They did it the old fashioned way and have been paying the price ever since.

So really DR is a text book example but really in Latin America to the Philippines to Brazil to the USA the lighter (or whiter) you are the better you will get treated. It; s a GLOBAL thing, sad to say.

Black men get the best treatment in the whitest (Germany, Iceland, Estonia) of countries were they are rare and therefore exotic, but in the dark countries you better be carrying that "American" card, but even then you will be 2nd choice to your whiter American Com padre.

I don't know about that I have traveled all threw asia and with the younger generation it is defferent from what I have seen in asia. I have lived in Thailand for 10 yrs. And the hip hop culture have spread all over and if you are a young black guy from america you don't even have to pay for the girls in Thailand. Throw on you a throwback jersey, baggy pants, And watch them flock to you.

[KnickFan]

LBW: I'm a white guy but I lived in the capitol city of Santo Domingo for 6 months several years ago on official business. They don't like Haitians down there plain and simple and Dominican culture is obsessed with the light skin black vs dark skin black thing if you can believe it. I could give a class on this topic so I'll just leave it with 3 common observations:

1) I challenge you to find any dark skinned mannequins in store front windows when you're out shopping down there. The mannequins are almost always white as rice. Check it out!

2) Employment want ads in the local papers there often post job openings for high public visibility such as bank tellers, secretaries, slaes clerks in expensive stores, etc with the words, "buen presencia" or 'good presence'. This is code speak for light skin people only need apply for these positions and everybody knows this.

3) National ID cards or 'ceduals' specify your race just as they often do here in the USA "B" for white, "M" for brown skin, "I" for indian? And "N" for negro (naygrow)or black. Here's the problem with the Indian thing. They were all wiped out by various European white man diseases as well as their failure to adapt to slavery and were exterminated by the 1600's. So. If your baby is born is just a bit too dark skinned you can pay a bribe to have the child classified as Indian. There are NO indians down there, trust me. Now, how fucked up is that.

Go to Amazon and see if you can get a used copy of the book: "Why the Cocks Fight" by a female author with a funny last name like Wunk or something like that. This is an excellent resource on the history of the 2 countries that share the same island and the reasons for their (Dominican) fixation with race and skin color. I'm glad I read it when I did as it really helped me out alot to understand this culture.

Act and walk like an American and keep some sort of document to that effect and they should leave you alone. And leave the expensive gold jewelry and man accessories at home, PLEASE.

Take care.

You are getting attacked for the Mannequin analogy but you speak the truth. Basically anywhere non white folks have been colonized or enslaved a color caste system has been set up. The Ironic thing is, the BLACKER the country the stronger the antiblack sentiment. Why is that? Because the blacker you are the more you want to distance your self from that. They are taught to hate anything alluding to their African roots. The rest of Latin America and also PR looks down own DOminicans because on average THEY are the Blackest.

Argentineans are held in highest esteem because they are the WHITEST. They are at the top of the hierarchy in terms of perceived wealth and beauty among Spanish speaking people on that side of the world. So you pointed out Mannequins and in Merxico Brazil and the other countries turn on the TV and count the # of Blacks you see. Do a google search on
blanqueamiento.

It's the old divide and conquer strategy in full effect. Black slaves outnumbered their masters so they had to figure out a way to keep them from uniting. It mostly worked since most of the formerly conquered are still mentally enslaved, still deny or distance themselves from their African heritage.

Although Haiti was one of the few exceptions. First free former slave republic. They did it the old fashioned way and have been paying the price ever since...


So really DR is a text book example but really in Latin America to the Philippines to Brazil to the USA the lighter (or whiter) you are the better you will get treated. It;s a GLOBAL thing, sad to say.

Black men get the best treatment in the whitest (Germany, Iceland,Estonia) of countries were they are rare and therefore exotic, but in the dark countries you better be carrying that "American" card , but even then you will be 2nd choice to your whiter American Com padre.

[Jaosousa]

Learn a little Creole, or some words in French, if they understand Creole or French, they could be Haitian.

To say how are you, hello in Creole, using phonetics: Sac Pasay Nahbulay. Or in French something like (comment allez vous) pronounced some thing like: commay allay vou.

Tres bien merci, petit petit

To be honest, I mean perfectly honest, I would not know what a Haitian chick looked like if she walked up and slapped me in the face.

I was actually thinking of posting this question: How can you tell which chicas are Haitian? I hear that you guys are meeting Haitian women in Sosua, but how is it you know that she is Haitian beforehand?

I cannot distinguish Haitian women from Dominicanas on sight alone. Or maybe it's just that I haven't been there enough?

BUT SERIOUSLY: I could care less if she was Haitian, Dominican, or a Vietnamese-Dominican-Haitian chica...

I just come for the sex

[SavePros321]

I would like to know if the chicas at BB doing BBBJ? Yes or no

Please reply back ASAP, I'll be there end of Jan 2010.

Thanks

When I was there I was with at least 7 different chicas and only one would not do BBBJ.

[Manizales911]

I would like to know if the chicas at BB doing BBBJ? Yes or no

Please reply back ASAP, I'll be there end of Jan 2010.

Thanks

Some do,some don't. My experience has been that it is about 50/50. Ask them up front before you take them to your room if it is really important to you.

[Mr Gogo]

I would like to know if the chicas at BB doing BBBJ? Yes or no

Please reply back ASAP, I'll be there end of Jan 2010.

Thanks

When you said asap I thought you were going next weekend. Most BB chicks do CBJ, so negoitiate before hand if you want BBBJ.

[Manizales911]

To be honest, I mean perfectly honest, I would not know what a Haitian chick looked like if she walked up and slapped me in the face.

I was actually thinking of posting this question: How can you tell which chicas are Haitian? I hear that you guys are meeting Haitian women in Sosua, but how is it you know that she is Haitian beforehand?

I cannot distinguish Haitian women from Dominicanas on sight alone. Or maybe it's just that I haven't been there enough?

BUT SERIOUSLY: I could care less if she was Haitian, Dominican, or a Vietnamese-Dominican-Haitian chica...

I just come for the sex

I agree, I don't care if she's a damn eskimo,if she looks decent and can suck a golf ball through a garden hose I could care less where she's from.

[Frannie]

To be honest, I mean perfectly honest, I would not know what a Haitian chick looked like if she walked up and slapped me in the face.

I was actually thinking of posting this question: How can you tell which chicas are Haitian? I hear that you guys are meeting Haitian women in Sosua, but how is it you know that she is Haitian beforehand?

I cannot distinguish Haitian women from Dominicanas on sight alone. Or maybe it's just that I haven't been there enough?

BUT SERIOUSLY: I could care less if she was Haitian, Dominican, or a Vietnamese-Dominican-Haitian chica...

I just come for the sex

Well, many Haitianas do have a different, more African look. They speak Spanish, if at all, with a Frenchified lilt, and they tend to hang together in pairs or groups, so they are pretty easy to spot in Sosua. Additionally they rarely wear expensive hair weaves. They often have natural hair or wear cheap wigs. OK, you will obviously find the odd exception who breaks all these rules, but not many.