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  1. #31740

    Never be the same.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sammon  [View Original Post]
    Whatever the outcome of the election Sosua I believe will never be the same. It was essentially a brothel town to start with many brothels all over the place. Then it became kind of different with bars and discoes. Still the girls came hoping to make money. Street walkers and beach walkers during daytime plied their trade.

    This does not distract the family tourists who tend to ignore everything. In Thailand prostitution and go go bars are in your face wherever you go. Bars are full of girls even on islands plying their trade. Did not affect the tourism at all and in fact increasing.

    But at the same time in Sosua once the changes take place it is very hard to come back to previous time. All businesses are scared and will not invest. Maintenance of bars and hotels will not take place. Everybody will just try to survive.

    Almost every town has a Main Street where everything happens and people feel comfortable in that area. Moving to separate entertainment area will not entice people to go there.

    I remember here in USA there were many many strip bars all over the place. Slowly it was curtailed and restricted to zoning to remote places. Initially all moved but very few survived. Nowadays you will be hard pressed to find a decent one. I liked it when they brought in beautiful Russian girls.
    I agree that it will never be the same. Clearly they want it quiet and more discreet. I'm ok with that. I can clearly see their point.

    I just don't want to much separation. The Europeans are not the only people who enjoy a nice meal and glass of wine in a quiet downtown. Downtown should be for everyone who can relax, move respectfully and enjoy it. Peace.

  2. #31739
    Quote Originally Posted by OldKool  [View Original Post]
    I was there 2 weeks ago and viewed 1st hand the new setup. I thought it was a great setup. Everyone had what they wanted. The streets were not over flowing with putas. Couples and families could walk the streets. The establishments that catered to Europeans were doing a brisk business and I was having a ball on the other end of town. I hope the mayor wins because her solution works for me and for everyone else.
    It's purely cosmetic at this point. The hookers are still around, just dispersed over a wider area. But Sosua is not that big so they are all still relatively close to your hotel.

    The hardcore hookers are still here, some of whom I have known for 10 years. It's still easy to pick up a chica, or even a SUV load to party with. Smart phones have replaced the "stroll".

    As long as prostitution is legal in Sosua, and solicitation is not a crime, and mongers (the real problem) and their money, are welcomed, the party will continue.

    Another big test is here SuperBowl weekend. Ahnvee is promising a party to end all parties, sounds like orgy central.

    We'll see if it gets shut down, at some point.

    Interesting, but still fun times for the punters!

  3. #31738

    Not so sure

    I was there 2 weeks ago and viewed 1st hand the new setup. I thought it was a great setup. Everyone had what they wanted. The streets were not over flowing with putas. Couples and families could walk the streets. The establishments that catered to Europeans were doing a brisk business and I was having a ball on the other end of town. I hope the mayor wins because her solution works for me and for everyone else.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sammon  [View Original Post]
    Whatever the outcome of the election Sosua I believe will never be the same. It was essentially a brothel town to start with many brothels all over the place. Then it became kind of different with bars and discoes. Still the girls came hoping to make money. Street walkers and beach walkers during daytime plied their trade.

    This does not distract the family tourists who tend to ignore everything. In Thailand prostitution and go go bars are in your face wherever you go. Bars are full of girls even on islands plying their trade. Did not affect the tourism at all and in fact increasing.

    But at the same time in Sosua once the changes take place it is very hard to come back to previous time. All businesses are scared and will not invest. Maintenance of bars and hotels will not take place. Everybody will just try to survive.

    Almost every town has a Main Street where everything happens and people feel comfortable in that area. Moving to separate entertainment area will not entice people to go there.

    I remember here in USA there were many many strip bars all over the place. Slowly it was curtailed and restricted to zoning to remote places. Initially all moved but very few survived. Nowadays you will be hard pressed to find a decent one. I liked it when they brought in beautiful Russian girls.

  4. #31737
    Whatever the outcome of the election Sosua I believe will never be the same. It was essentially a brothel town to start with many brothels all over the place. Then it became kind of different with bars and discoes. Still the girls came hoping to make money. Street walkers and beach walkers during daytime plied their trade.

    This does not distract the family tourists who tend to ignore everything. In Thailand prostitution and go go bars are in your face wherever you go. Bars are full of girls even on islands plying their trade. Did not affect the tourism at all and in fact increasing.

    But at the same time in Sosua once the changes take place it is very hard to come back to previous time. All businesses are scared and will not invest. Maintenance of bars and hotels will not take place. Everybody will just try to survive.

    Almost every town has a Main Street where everything happens and people feel comfortable in that area. Moving to separate entertainment area will not entice people to go there.

    I remember here in USA there were many many strip bars all over the place. Slowly it was curtailed and restricted to zoning to remote places. Initially all moved but very few survived. Nowadays you will be hard pressed to find a decent one. I liked it when they brought in beautiful Russian girls.

  5. #31736
    Quote Originally Posted by Quagmire1974  [View Original Post]
    Very respectfully, there's only one reason why all of the closed bars are suddenly being allowed to reopen:

    https://www.sosuanews.com/index.php?id=5803&article=1

    Keep the bars closed when all of that Superbowl money is coming into town, and you send a lot of angry people to the polls. Allow the bars to reopen, with the owners making that Superbowl money, and a lot less people will be inclined to go to the polls and vote the current politicians out of office.

    Personally, I think Sosua Mayor Ilana Neumann is finished. She only got 41 or 42 percent of the vote the last time the Mayoral election was held a couple of years ago, but won because she got the most votes out of the 4 or 5 candidates who ran for Mayor. Now, Mayor Neumann is only up against Wily Olivences, who got the second most votes the last time the Mayoral election was held.

    The people of Sosua have a choice: Either stay with Mayor Neumann's shit show, or go with someone who might actually inject renewed life into a failing tourist town. What will the people decide? We will know in a little over two weeks.
    No real argument there.

    It is a political circus that sees old Rumba opening one day, closed that same evening, reopened in the morning and, as of yesterday, closed again, LOL.

    I've also pointed out a couple of times in recent posts, (see below) that some resolution to the mixed up policy should occur after the February election.

    My reports on bar closings and reopenings, comes directly from observation on the ground.

    My understanding of why, and what leverage is being used politically on the closed businesses comes first hand from a major player in the business (who shall be nameless) and who has been attending these meetings for a couple of years now. The reference to the demand that they operate as "restaurants" only, is part of the ongoing negotiations to clean up the downtown and the promises that were made to the bar owners!

    Take it or leave it!

  6. #31735
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    So the owners of these bars are locals that are allowed to vote? And if they are, there are what? all of 6 bars that had to close? So 6 votes are going to swing the polls the other way?
    My friend, I know you're a lot smarter than that comment. Let's take a look at what happened in November 2019:

    https://www.sosuanews.com/index.php?id=5734&article=1

    As the article points out, closing the bars doesn't affect only the owners. It also affects maintenance staff, security staff, cleaning staff, taxi / motoconcho staff, fashion stores, beauty / massage salons, and as you and I both know, the WGs. In my opinion, Mayor Ilana Neumann and her ilk were so rattled by the protest that they cooked this up only 24 hours later:

    https://www.sosuanews.com/index.php?id=5736&article=1

    You know as well as I do that closing the bars and keeping them closed affects hundreds of people, not just 6. And with the Mayoral election being between only Ilana Neumann and Wily Olivences, hundreds of votes can easily be the deciding factor between who wins and who loses.

    The question at this point is, are the people of Sosua happy with Neumann and her policies, or are they fed up and ready for a change? If they're happy and motivated to vote, you can expect Neumann to win. If they're fed up and motivated to vote, you can expect Olivences to win. And as I said in my original comment:

    Quote Originally Posted by Quagmire1974  [View Original Post]
    What will the people decide? We will know in a little over two weeks.
    That's my two cents. Hopefully, you won't think I was trying to troll or insult you. There's already enough of that on ISG and I try not to add to it.

  7. #31734
    Quote Originally Posted by Quagmire1974  [View Original Post]
    Keep the bars closed when all of that Superbowl money is coming into town, and you send a lot of angry people to the polls. Allow the bars to reopen, with the owners making that Superbowl money, and a lot less people will be inclined to go to the polls and vote the current politicians out of office.
    So the owners of these bars are locals that are allowed to vote? And if they are, there are what? all of 6 bars that had to close? So 6 votes are going to swing the polls the other way?

  8. #31733

    The power vs the people!

    Quote Originally Posted by Quagmire1974  [View Original Post]
    Very respectfully, there's only one reason why all of the closed bars are suddenly being allowed to reopen:

    https://www.sosuanews.com/index.php?id=5803&article=1

    Keep the bars closed when all of that Superbowl money is coming into town, and you send a lot of angry people to the polls. Allow the bars to reopen, with the owners making that Superbowl money, and a lot less people will be inclined to go to the polls and vote the current politicians out of office.

    Personally, I think Sosua Mayor Ilana Neumann is finished. She only got 41 or 42 percent of the vote the last time the Mayoral election was held a couple of years ago, but won because she got the most votes out of the 4 or 5 candidates who ran for Mayor. Now, Mayor Neumann is only up against Wily Olivences, who got the second most votes the last time the Mayoral election was held.

    The people of Sosua have a choice: Either stay with Mayor Neumann's shit show, or go with someone who might actually inject renewed life into a failing tourist town. What will the people decide? We will know in a little over two weeks.
    Willie appears to have FAR more support than illiana.

    The only problem is. Santo Domingo wants her in office doing what she is doing. This came from the outgoing president, she didn't do all this alone or without support. So we'll see who really runs things, the people, or the power. Stay tuned folks! Peace.

  9. #31732

    RE: Latest from the Street

    Quote Originally Posted by Oakie  [View Original Post]
    They promised that closed "restaurants" on Pedro could re-open if they behaved like restaurants and not hooker joints.
    Very respectfully, there's only one reason why all of the closed bars are suddenly being allowed to reopen:

    https://www.sosuanews.com/index.php?id=5803&article=1

    Keep the bars closed when all of that Superbowl money is coming into town, and you send a lot of angry people to the polls. Allow the bars to reopen, with the owners making that Superbowl money, and a lot less people will be inclined to go to the polls and vote the current politicians out of office.

    Personally, I think Sosua Mayor Ilana Neumann is finished. She only got 41 or 42 percent of the vote the last time the Mayoral election was held a couple of years ago, but won because she got the most votes out of the 4 or 5 candidates who ran for Mayor. Now, Mayor Neumann is only up against Wily Olivences, who got the second most votes the last time the Mayoral election was held.

    The people of Sosua have a choice: Either stay with Mayor Neumann's shit show, or go with someone who might actually inject renewed life into a failing tourist town. What will the people decide? We will know in a little over two weeks.

  10. #31731
    Quote Originally Posted by Newb20  [View Original Post]
    As a newbie to Sosua - Both asked for 3,000 pesos for short time. One only offered an hour for that. The other I can't remember if it was 1 or 2 hours. One girl was about a 7 to 7.5. The other was an 8 to me. I offered both girls 2,500 and they both accepted.
    Some of those Haitian girls looking pretty hot from 20 feet away. LOL.
    Man sounds like you're getting the hang of it. A little homework pays off.

    If you don't establish BBBJ at the very beginning don't expect to Chica to throw it in extra. The reason she establish a time with you is because she's not trying to give me more than what you agreed on.

    Be careful with those Haitians. Especially if you're Caucasian. I heard chocolate is Addictive.

  11. #31730

    Newbie's thoughts so far

    As a newbie to Sosua I can say that there is enough info in the threads already for newbies to get their feet wet. That's not to say you might not have a poor experience. But that is how we learn. I've had a few poor experiences already here but mostly because I was doing "quick picks" off the street.

    I've also been to anhvee twice. Picked a Dominican both times. (not on purpose. Just worked out that way) Both asked for 3,000 pesos for short time. One only offered an hour for that. The other I can't remember if it was 1 or 2 hours. One girl was about a 7 to 7.5. The other was an 8 to me. I offered both girls 2,500 and they both accepted. Both experiences were pretty good but nothing outstanding. But I think that is somewhat the nature of a first time fuck during a one hour session for a newbie. Which could be anywhere not just the. Are.

    A lot of these girls look hot from 15 to 20 feet away and when I get within 5 feet I see that they are maybe 7 or less. I don't grade inflate. And of course everybody taste varies! As a newbie I find it a bit challenging to "pre qualify" them before making a final deal. I'm sure that is part art and part science.

    All girls so far that I have been with have not been willing to do BBBJ only CBJ. So, will see how it goes. May do one more pick off the street. Some of those Haitian girls looking pretty hot from 20 feet away. LOL.

  12. #31729
    Quote Originally Posted by Adinga  [View Original Post]
    The former chef from the New Garden has his own Italian restaurant on the beach in Cabarete. Its outstanding and affordable.

    Sorry I don't have the name.
    It is called: Beach Side Italian Restaurant Cabarete, part of the Viva Wyndham set up.

  13. #31728

    Latest from the Street

    The political circus continues.

    The pressure to open up for the rest of high season, starting off with SuperBowl weekend continues.

    Good tourist money is being wasted!

    They promised that closed "restaurants" on Pedro could re-open if they behaved like restaurants and not hooker joints.

    So we have King's (old Rumba) given permission by a highly placed official to re-open Wednesday morning, which they did! But then the Mayor came out and closed it up because they hadn't been issued the proper Official Notice to post on the door, so she ordered it closed last night! Lol. The Official Notice was supposed to be delivered this afternoon so they could re-open at 4 pm today. Hopefully it arrived in time.

    El Flo got their Official Notice to re-open so they were good to go today, but the guy not could move his computers back in and set up on time.

    Such is the state of the union here, but as I said before, they want that high season money coming back in, before it's too late!

    It could be almost business as usual for Superbowl, with Classico open again, but a couple of bar lessees already walked away from the shit after the last closings, and the building owners are scrambling to get new lessees in place. But with the new clubs opening up town, and new local bars discoverd, the choices may actually improve. Some may not go back to the old sweatshop places!

    As I also said, the situation won't really settle down until after the February election, when we'll all find out who's actually in charge!

    In the meantime folks are still finding ways to have a good time here.

    Life goes on!

  14. #31727
    Good day Gents, I'm making my way back to Sosua next week, first time in two years.

    Where is the best exchange rate you guys have seen? And what are they giving in recent days?

    Also where anyone has a Viagra spot in town?

    I'm excited to head back, despite the changes, I have no doubts there is still a lot of fun to be had!

  15. #31726
    The former chef from the New Garden has his own Italian restaurant on the beach in Cabarete. Its outstanding and affordable.

    Sorry I don't have the name.

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