Sosua Reports

[Yanqui69]

It'll be interesting to see how it all changes as the Dominican economy improves. Will theere be gainful employment for all who want to work? Will hoes choose to trade the lifestyle for a job? Who knows. We shall see. I think trump is going to hurt the American middle class, which will result in less tourist dollars being spent in all tourist markets. We shall see. But in any case, IMO, its always better to monger discreetly. In any case, therr will always be chicas available for those of who hablo un poquito espaol and are willing to move around. Stay tuned folks! Cuidate.

I wouldn't hold my breath on that account. It would be a blessing for the DR to provide decent employment to those who want it, but that is not likely in the foreseeable future.

I have visited the DR for about 13 years. I have a "novia" that I have known for 7 or 8 years, and she is hugely frustrated with the dysfunction and chronic corruption in the DR. If you have money, you live very well, but for the vast majority, it is hard. Well paying jobs are very scarce. One day, if the living standards improve for all of the population, mongering might become a bit more expensive, but it will be a long wait for that day.

[SubCmdr]

And the money shot is the bountiful supply of beautiful independent young women, plying their trade legally without the hassle of Mamasans and pimps. No bait and switch phony ads, photoshopped pics,. What you see in front of you is what you get, and no car is needed.

That is a very explicit statement outlining the type of girls operating in Sosua and how the are operating. But does that mean there are no other driving forces behind them selling their pussy to you or others?

Just because you have personally never dealt with the individuals who are / may be the driving forces behind the prostitutes you interact with does not mean that the business in and of itself is powered by the overwhelming desire to sell you and others their pussy. It should be noted that I have not dealt with anyone in front of any prostitute in any country where I've had the opportunity to buy pussy. That does not mean that there was not someone that was behind the scenes driving the action or waiting to receive the money. And haven't seen where you have addressed that particular issue. So I did. Not being critical, just kicking a little knowledge to others about behind the scenes action. As for the best way to get laid (in Sosua or any other place), I've always felt that is best left to the individual monger and would never tell another man how to spend is money or what type of girl he should be attractive to.

Sosua is not the only place in the Dominican Republic where there are streetwalkers or girls hanging out in bars waiting to sell you pussy. And there are many places in Santo Domingo that provide access to prostitutes where you don't need a car. You can get there via moto, transporte publico or taxi. The demise of any business operating on the edge of legality can hardly be traced to a report on ISG. In most cases it involves failure to handle their business with their local authorities or mistreating the girls to the point of crossing that bright line into illegality. Although I have not read Dominican Law in Spanish or passed the tests needed to practice law in the Dominican Republic, I have read the news stories about the demise of locations and I've never seen where they have been tipped off by a post here in ISG about what is going on.

Anyone given the opportunity to read a quote from my entire text would see that my point was that the projection that prostitution is engaged in by the majority of girls in Sosua due to their independent desire and that they simply have made a sensible career choice is to overlook the economic and cultural factors that make the Dominican Republic a ripe local for the buying and selling of pussy. Who was it who said: "Sosua is a open air brothel". Enough said.

The line of discussion started with the following hypothesis (that's a SAT word I haven't used in a long time): "Publicity will ruin Sosua". I don't buy into that statement. Publicity is good for business. Sosua is about it's business. Prostitution is business. Is publicity about prostitution in Sosua good for Sosua? I don't know. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not to their own facts.

Now pass me the hooka.

[Oakie]

No pimps and mama sans? OK. But what about the husbands, bothers and uncles, mothers, sisters and aunts, encouraging, facilitating and enabling them to do what they they do to make some money and help out their respective families. Don't get it twisted.

I don't think I got it "twisted".

All the putas I've interacted with over the last 10 years are freelancers, and I've never had to deal with their husbands, brothers, uncles, mothers, sisters and aunts.

That sounds like a complicated way of getting laid in Sosua. But to each his own, LOL!

And I'm not for censorship.

Just a little discretion about some places that are skirting the law by providing hookers to tourists on premises, and excercising a degree of control over them and the prices thay can charge, which is technically illegal.

We've had folks on here naming the managers, detailing exactly what the house cut vs the chica's take is in these places.

I've never used an incall, or a take out, myself in Sosua, but Passions and CMP were a convenient and fun venue for many mongers.

Be a shame to lose some of the others.

[SubCmdr]

I agreed with your earlier comment about publicity.

Large numbers of mongers being indiscreet along with the explosive growth of (regular) tourism are two of the largest factors I see driving the current current changes in Sousa. Even looking at it from the outside (which I am and prefer to do) all you have to do is follow the money to figure out who has the real political pull in that local jurisdiction. Sousa is no secret in the Dominican Republic or the world. But no Dominican (male or female) wants their nose rubbed in it and a large number of the girls roaming the streets and hanging out in the bars and nightclubs of Sousa are not from the area. And they do not want others know that they are in Sosua doing what they do. So, if the Dominicans themselves respect this then as guests in their country it might behave us to do the same.

Even here on ISG we can discuss our personal experiences without the necessity of posting details (menus, prices, and take out fees and the names of the managers and operators of the establishments that serve the mongers well, but are technically on the periphery of illegallity.

I'm not sure if I would want to engage in self censorship. But prudence in posting details that identify individuals is certainly something that I agree with. The back channel is excellent for the exchange of information in more detail. But, if some one has opened a legal business and has targeted mongers along with the girls who serve them as part of their business model, I would argue they have already put themselves out there. They are have entered the public sphere in full view and should be subject to public reports in forums such as these.

No pimps and mama sans? OK. But what about the husbands, bothers and uncles, mothers, sisters and aunts, encouraging, facilitating and enabling them to do what they they do to make some money and help out their respective families. Don't get it twisted. Comparisons to the mouse house except for adults aside it's just another business. And from the reports I've received business is good.

[Oakie]

It'll be interesting to see how it all changes as the Dominican economy improves. Will theere be gainful employment for all who want to work? Will hoes choose to trade the lifestyle for a job? Who knows. We shall see. I think trump is going to hurt the American middle class, which will result in less tourist dollars being spent in all tourist markets. We shall see. But in any case, IMO, its always better to monger discreetly. In any case, therr will always be chicas available for those of who hablo un poquito espaol and are willing to move around. Stay tuned folks! Cuidate.

The Dominican Republic is the Caribbean's most popular tourist spot. It saw further growth in the first few months of 2018, with a healthy 60% of that growth from the USA And Canada.

Regardless of who gets the credit, the American economy is growing fast, with low unemployment and a booming stock market, and it is those factors that affect American tourism numbers.

It is one reason why the putas are able to ask those exorbitant prices, and sometimes getting them. Sosua is putting some of those dollars to work, with newly paved streets, sidewalks, tree planting and plans to re-shape the main drag to be more tourist friendly. Hotels are following the lead and are renovating and adding rooms.

How this all will affect mongers, is another story, but it remains a beautiful, welcoming, nearby, cheap and safe destination destination for North Americans. No drug wars, civil unrest, or terrorism threats.

And the money shot is the bountiful supply of beautiful independent young women, plying their trade legally without the hassle of Mamasans and pimps. No bait and switch phony ads, photoshopped pics,. What you see in front of you is what you get, and no car is needed.

I agreed with your earlier comment about publicity. Even here on ISG we can discuss our personal experiences without the necessity of posting details (menus, prices, and take out fees and the names of the managers and operators of the establishments that serve the mongers well, but are technically on the periphery of illegallity.

As long as prostitution is legal here, they'll always be mongers.

[Brother P]

As long as the law of the land allows for prostitution nothing in the Dominican Republic will change in that regard. The more sophisticated among us might want to pay attention to the current macro issues affecting the current economy (GDP growing at between 5 to 6 percent annually is just one example). That is going to affect the prices and attitudes on the street for the average sexual tourist and sexpat much more than books written by obscure people about subjects most people consider to be unsavory and on the fringe.

As the Dominican Republic becomes more affluent (and if you happen to venture outside of the popular puta pueblos you will see this happening on a macro and micro economic scale) it is going to have a profound effect on the culture we currently enjoy in this country.

It'll be interesting to see how it all changes as the Dominican economy improves. Will theere be gainful employment for all who want to work? Will hoes choose to trade the lifestyle for a job? Who knows. We shall see. I think trump is going to hurt the American middle class, which will result in less tourist dollars being spent in all tourist markets. We shall see. But in any case, IMO, its always better to monger discreetly. In any case, therr will always be chicas available for those of who hablo un poquito español and are willing to move around. Stay tuned folks! Cuidate.

[Negro562]

Why would we want to read and support a book about Sosua? Who wants to read a book about another Cuba Dave writing about sex and mongering adventure mistakes, to give the world a misconception that we are all are alike? F** that book! And why are you doing a sales promotion here?

Because you are a sucka and I can do whatever I want.

[Roanoker]

It sounds to me like this is a book about a real life crime that was committed in Sosua a couple years back. Not a book about mongering.

It was a bizarre crime worthy of Hollywood.

I knew Denny years ago and he is a guy who has assimilated into the Dominican culture and spent a good amount of his life living there.

I would think this would be a fascinating look into this story.

If anything is going to ruin mongering in Sosua for us, it will be all the morons going down there who have no couth, or respect for the people who have to live in that country.

I hope the book comes to fruition. Because to me the country is a much more interesting place than just somewhere for me to drag my dick through.

[SubCmdr]

As long as the law of the land allows for prostitution nothing in the Dominican Republic will change in that regard. The more sophisticated among us might want to pay attention to the current macro issues affecting the current economy (GDP growing at between 5 to 6 percent annually is just one example). That is going to affect the prices and attitudes on the street for the average sexual tourist and sexpat much more than books written by obscure people about subjects most people consider to be unsavory and on the fringe.

As the Dominican Republic becomes more affluent (and if you happen to venture outside of the popular puta pueblos you will see this happening on a macro and micro economic scale) it is going to have a profound effect on the culture we currently enjoy in this country.

[Negro562]

Hello, Sosua world. My boy Denny asked me to come and tell all you travelers that he just finishing up his first novel about life in Sosua. If you recall, he was the person who spearheaded the effort to expose the murder of an American businessman, who was killed and relieved of his properties by a Dominican woman and here fake tough guy American boyfriend. He exposed it on different forums and they were eventually arrested and convicted of killing the guy.

Well, he wrote a book about his efforts called Sanding the Wood. He is currently doing a fundraiser on kickstarter to raise funds for marketing and promotion of the book. I have had a chance to read it and it is dead on, as far as life in Sosua. I guess he really knows that place, seeing how long he was there working with the guy that was killed.

Denny said he is dropping the book in June, so I might come back and post about it again. This book really opened my eyes to a lot of things, both go and bad, that are going on in Sosua. I laughed and I felt his pain while reading the book. I don't know if he is a good writer, but he tells a good story, so I encourage all to check it out. It's a good Dominican Republic read.

Well, happy mongering and I'm out!

[Oakie]

I remember that scam. They burned a lot of people with the timeshare game. Bellamar and Victoria House tried to do the same cam. Once a salesman knocked on my door to schedule me an appointment.

I'm always surprised that folks are still being conned by the time share touts with the clipboards.

There's a now a whole industry dedicated to getting you out of these crazy deals.

But I still see a lot of newbie couples on their first day, sitting down with these touts and being conned by the promise of a free trip and a free lunch.

Human nature!

[Ipanema Carioca]

On my first visit to Sosua my 2 brothers and me stayed at the Sosua Bay Hotel as it was known in 2009 we also bought into the time share. The place was very nice with five star dining, snacks 24/7, nightly shows in the open air theater, it was really nice. An Italian dude owned it at the time and subsequently was run out of town for who knows what. We used to enter with the ladies on the "beach walk" side (opposite end of the property from Victoria House) kept the girls out of sight from the regulars family tourist thing and out of the main lobby. When the Italian owner left things stared heading south. It became the Hotel Azul and now I guess the Bellamar. SAVE YOUR MONEY! There are better places to stay in Sosua. I personally got burned pretty good all the way around and will not stay again time share or not.

Peace,

I remember that scam. They burned a lot of people with the timeshare game. Bellamar and Victoria House tried to do the same cam. Once a salesman knocked on my door to schedule me an appointment.

[AllTooHorny]

Although Portuguese is the official language many people do speak Spanish also. Mainly because all the surrounding countries are Spanish speaking. Spanish is a good language to learn.

Still, though, surely Gertsch700 was not thinking that many people might know Spanish. He was in the grip of the unusually common misconception that the primary language of Brazil is Spanish. In any case, Spanish is spoken by many people in the US, too. But that's not a reason for a Spanish-learning tourist to visit the US. The vast majority of Americans are English-only speakers. The same is true of Portuguese in Brazil.

[Mr Gogo]

On my first visit to Sosua my 2 brothers and me stayed at the Sosua Bay Hotel as it was known in 2009 we also bought into the time share. The place was very nice with five star dining, snacks 24/7, nightly shows in the open air theater, it was really nice. An Italian dude owned it at the time and subsequently was run out of town for who knows what. We used to enter with the ladies on the "beach walk" side (opposite end of the property from Victoria House) kept the girls out of sight from the regulars family tourist thing and out of the main lobby. When the Italian owner left things stared heading south. It became the Hotel Azul and now I guess the Bellamar. SAVE YOUR MONEY! There are better places to stay in Sosua. I personally got burned pretty good all the way around and will not stay again time share or not.

Peace,

That Italian dude was Armando. He got tied up in a lawsuit that last I heard is still ongoing. He subcontracted it out to certain entities and the quality went down. He also owned Classics till a couple years ago and after one disco. He was deported but came back a few times. Meanwhile the property was decaying. It still has one of the nicest double pools overlooking the bay.

[Sammon]

There is no Spanish in Brazil; so I recommend Colombia. I really like Cartagena!

Although Portuguese is the official language many people do speak Spanish also. Mainly because all the surrounding countries are Spanish speaking. Spanish is a good language to learn.