Sosua Reports

[Oakie]

Seriously. Have you ever seen a rap video? Or more so a rap video that was made in a strip club in Atlanta? You think those video chicks come from outer space? No. They come right out of the strip clubs. Blue Flame, Magic City, Follies, Strokers, Tease. Those are the same girls that you can get to come by for a party. What quality you consider them to be is a personal issue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyX8LxUrq-c

OK.

Just send 'em over to my place Mr E.

Let's see. I'll take the one on the left and the one in the middle, one row back!

I ask again, with all that pussy around you all the time, why hang around Sosua, a place you hate, and a mongering board that has shit advice you don't need?

Weird shit!

[JjBee62]

Utter baloney. For a start most of the activities you mention would not be legal in the US, like the fuck parties you mention. Secondly, if a lot of the guys who go to Sosua are in relationships, it would be impossible to conceal their absence for multiple days from home, work, child custody arrangements, and so on.

People who live in beach places rarely go to other beach places for vacations. I lived for many years in Bermuda, so I know what I am talking about.

The Sugarbabies Web site is just a front for a prostitution Web site, just as Ashley Madison was, and there are illegal prostitutes on sites like Facebook. Are you really that naive?

Yes, people can get laid where they live, sometimes they can get serial partners, but easily getting 18 and 19 year-old students for $200 or $300 per month pocket money is a total fantasy.

You would be amazed at the illegal things that go on. I talked to a guy recently who used to share an apartment with several other guys. Nobody lived there, it was just a convenient place to take strippers, hookers and escorts. I've been to a similar party, except the strippers were escorts and it cost a lot more than $40 to take one to a bedroom.

Having a full-time sugarbaby in the US for $300/ month isn't reasonable, but you can find one to visit twice a month for that. I have a friend who's spending about $800/ month for apartment plus utilities for a college student he sees about 10 times per month. The sugar daddy who took over an ex girlfriend was probably spending about $1500 per month and he was getting about 10 hours / week. I wouldn't know this except there was a 2 month period where she was his sugarbaby and my girlfriend.

[Frannie]

In other words, it's exactly twice as much and not more than twice as much, and you are wrong, so you are bloviating instead of just admitting it.

'An additional $10,350', in addition to the $6,300 + $4,050 = $10,350 the single person can exclude. Sure sounds like twice as much to me, and it does not 'depend on how you look at it.'

You are correct, but I am not trying to write a manual for tax preparers. If you do not itemize deductions and you marry a non working wife, your taxes will be the same as if you had an additional $10,350 deduction. That is all.

[Frannie]

Prostitution is illegal, but parties?

Is it really legal to hold "parties" where men pay $40 to fuck a woman where you live? Not in Florida, it isn't.

[Frannie]

Since when do human beings only participate in things that are legal? Have you ever driven over the speed limit? Did you ever visit the illegal La Passion when it was open in Sosua? Smoked weed? Or even drank when you were in high school? Who says someone needs to conceal their absence in order to get away? Not everyone's partner has a ball and chain on their nutsack. I don't think I have any friends or family whose spouse has put a curfew on them. Utter baloney? Which world are you living in? It certainly is not the real one. I guess I can see why people are calling where they live Sex Prison. Seems they are living day to day with a stick up their ass.

Sex offenses hardly come under the same category as speeding in terms of how they can affect your whole life. Yes, I drank when I was [CodeWord902] and I smoked marijuana (and cigarettes) when I was young and dumb, but I haven't done it for decades. There is a difference between irresponsible adolescents and mature adults who have responsibilities.

The whole point of traveling to the DR is that you can do things legally that would be illegal in the US, thus arbitraging differences in laws. For example, as well as paying for sex, you can also buy prescription drugs like antibiotics, blood pressure medications, or birth control pills without a prescription, thus saving yourself expensive visits to the doctor office, bloodwork, etc.

[JjBee62]

Don't take this the wrong way, but are you a complete fucking idiot? Give that question some serious consideration.

The reason why I didn't get it, is because it doesn't make sense. In essence everything you posted about the mindset of an individual sending money is coming from you, and your opinion of what YOU think is in THEIR heads, not necessarily their reality. And if you know my saying, I always say. YOU CAN ONLY THINK IN ONE HEAD.

Well no shit it's coming from me.

I'm currently friends with 2 different women who have been / are in the types of relationships I have specifically been discussing. Friends as in, they ask me advice, tell me their complaints and problems, sometimes show me the emails and messages, and hang out and drink beer with me when I can visit. There have been other friends, girlfriends and even a sister, who have gone through similar experiences. I'm also casually acquainted with a few men who are currently in, or were recently in these types of arrangements. What I have been saying isn't my opinion, or guesswork, it's a composite of all the sources. In the words of one guy, "I want to be your Superman and save you from Lex Luthor. " Another, who kept promising to divorce his wife and marry the girl, once she let him move her to an apartment convenient to him, "If you are here I will always be there to protect you. " Fairy tales.

1st off, each individual sending money may have reasons you or I have not factored into the equation. The fact that you admit that you do not understand their alleged mindset speaks volumes. If you do not understand it, how can you be so sure of another mans motivation for sending money or his connection to the female? A few personal examples you know does not make it generally the case for every or most men sending money.

Which is why I stated I was discussing only a specific case. Did you not understand, when I described the specific case, that I was not making a general statement? If someone is talking about golf, do you assume that everything they say applies to baseball, rugby and bowling?

As for understanding, this part is probably beyond your grasp. There are people who torture and kill animals because they enjoy it. I understand that it happens, I understand that they enjoy it. What I don't understand is the feeling of enjoying torturing animals. I understand that some men send large amounts of money to women they don't know. I understand some of these men want to marry these women. I don't understand wanting to do these things, but I accept the existence.

Moreover, not all men are sending large amounts like what you described. Suppose a guy is only sending $50 a month? Jumping on a plane every now and then to visit the recipient of his generosity is an expense that seems reasonable. Much more reasonable than getting married just to fulfill some fantasy. What if the guy is already married? Hows he supposed to fulfill his fantasy then?

Is there any other completely unrelated subject you want to bring up? I once knew a guy who was looking for a woman to treat him like a baby, feed him with a bottle, change him and clean his ass. He's just as relevant. You're asking, "what about a guy who meets none of the conditions you specified? Doesn't something different make more sense?

Why yes. It does make more sense to use a tennis ball to play tennis, instead of a bowling ball.

Once again, you're trying to rationalize a delusion. If the guy is already married, and many are, he'll have to figure it out on his own.

All in all, regardless of the explanation, it still doesn't make sense to get married if all one is getting is his supposed fantasy fulfilled. Shit instead of getting married, he can fantasize about being married, being a white knight and all the rest and just send what he wants and don't marry the woman. Pay until he feels like stopping and walk away. When he walks away, THEN he will get something out of that arrangement. RELIEF.

Do you understand addiction? I've never had a problem with it, but I've known sex, alcohol, drug, gambling and religion addicts. The problem with addicts is they can't walk away. Do you understand obsession? An obsessed person is not subject to reason. They can't alter the obsession. A person who is sexually obsessed with goats can't replace the goat with a sheep. Once again you're trying to force rational actions on irrational behavior.

It's one thing to give our opinions on cost vs benefit when talking about marriage. But it is a totally different thing to attempt to project or give our opinions of what other people are supposedly thinking and their motivation, and how we think they may be fulfilled psychologically.

When a guy writes an email to a girl, who he has never met, but who he has sent a lot of money to, saying things like: "I can't live without you", "I can only think about you", "The only thing that will make me happy is to marry you", "I will treat you like a queen", "I can't help myself", etc. , I have a pretty good idea what is going on in his head. What's harder is answering the girl when she asks "how do I get rid of him?

Even harder than that is figuring out why you are so obsessed with what was intended as a sarcastic remark.

[OldKool]

I own properties in the ATL and have visited all those clubs. My favorite would be Pin Ups. The 5 dollar nude lap dance is a thing of beauty. These girls get earn decent money and are hard as bricks. In ATL there more women stripping then teaching school. 150 bucks is where most start the bidding for a very quick and sterile session. These lovely ladies seem to love the thugs and drug dealers who make it rain. Getting a good session from these girls is challenge no matter what you pay. So as an elderly statesman in the real world pulling babes from strip clubs is a poor option.

Seriously. Have you ever seen a rap video? Or more so a rap video that was made in a strip club in Atlanta? You think those video chicks come from outer space? No. They come right out of the strip clubs. Blue Flame, Magic City, Follies, Strokers, Tease. Those are the same girls that you can get to come by for a party. What quality you consider them to be is a personal issue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyX8LxUrq-c

[Mr Enternational]

The quality of women that you get in the US for these types of parties is very low. US hookers are very hardcore. Absolutely no GFE. 25 years ago strip club girls at dives were asking 100 plus dollars at dive clubs for pop and run. DR chicas are way more decent. E is living in an alternate reality.

Seriously. Have you ever seen a rap video? Or more so a rap video that was made in a strip club in Atlanta? You think those video chicks come from outer space? No. They come right out of the strip clubs. Blue Flame, Magic City, Follies, Strokers, Tease. Those are the same girls that you can get to come by for a party. What quality you consider them to be is a personal issue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyX8LxUrq-c

[Mr Enternational]

Utter baloney. For a start most of the activities you mention would not be legal in the US, like the fuck parties you mention. Secondly, if a lot of the guys who go to Sosua are in relationships, it would be impossible to conceal their absence for multiple days from home, work, child custody arrangements, and so on.

Since when do human beings only participate in things that are legal? Have you ever driven over the speed limit? Did you ever visit the illegal La Passion when it was open in Sosua? Smoked weed? Or even drank when you were in high school? Who says someone needs to conceal their absence in order to get away? Not everyone's partner has a ball and chain on their nutsack. I don't think I have any friends or family whose spouse has put a curfew on them. Utter baloney? Which world are you living in? It certainly is not the real one. I guess I can see why people are calling where they live Sex Prison. Seems they are living day to day with a stick up their ass.

[OldKool]

The quality of women that you get in the US for these types of parties is very low. US hookers are very hardcore. Absolutely no GFE. 25 years ago strip club girls at dives were asking 100 plus dollars at dive clubs for pop and run. DR chicas are way more decent. E is living in an alternate reality. All relationships are P4 P when you get down to basics. I prefer to be upfront. Guys come to DR from all over the US because they can not get the quality of women for the price they pay in the DR. Finding and setting up relationships 20 something girls for 50 60 year old men is like finding unicorns. "Good Luck" Sure in my day I could pull a 8 but could never have a 3 some with 2 of them for 80 bucks. NOPE! Us normal guys who have some age have hard time having young women even speaking to you.

Prostitution is illegal, but parties?

[Oakie]

Really? Actually, I used to travel to Canada, before the advent of the internet dating as it is less sexually repressive (legally speaking) compared to my New England. In any case, if it is so easy, why the New York crowd are being bad mouthed for screwing Sosua up by going there in droves? I mean they would be happy to do it in their ghettos, wouldn't they? Reading others' notes, like a recent one of Old Kool, who wonders about the life of a 60 yr old male in the US of A, I do not see anything that corroborates your statement or the way you make it sound: Easy, peasy. Of course, you in person are an exception- I know you get free pussy everywhere but I am speaking of the average Joe.

I'm in Canada. Getting a satisfactory connection by answering a hooker ad in backpage, or going on a "dating" site is hard work. It also takes luck!

The sheer logistics, and time spent arranging, meeting, vetting, no shows, phony photos, smelling bad, finding a spot to do the deed, or finding her spot across town, parking, maybe day time off work and and if you're married, maybe risking your anonymity, not to mention the cost. It's also mostly illegal.

I'ts why guys like to go where they are all reasonably clean, young, good looking, healthy, drug free, and everyone you see is guaranteed to fuck. You can choose to suit your mood, you can do it now or later, they ain't going anywhere, so take your time.

No group of outraged Mothers Against ...... is going to be putting your photo on a "shaming the johns" web site

Stress free for the older guy!

And it's hard for a particularly aggressive chick (and/or her chulo) to try to game a guy that can just jump on a plane and disappear!

And no baggage, except maybe a coffee mug! How to get rid of them and move on, is still a part of the equation, remember?

[Bliadun]

Prostitution is illegal, but parties?

For a start most of the activities you mention would not be legal in the US, like the fuck parties you mention

[Frannie]

You are acting like people can't get laid where they live. What is the big deal with that? You are a man and I am sure there are women where you live. Nature.

Why does the NY crew go to DR? Dude. For fun. Half of the guys are probably in relationships back home anyway so it is not like they are starving for pussy. Why do people from Miami, NY, CA go on vacation to another beach destination? They have beaches right where they live.

Is it only in Atlanta or don't guys in other cities have fuck parties where you invite a bunch a strippers over to someone's house and you can go fuck them in one of the rooms for $40? Even with setups like that people like a change of scenery every now and then.

Then you have to remember different mongers like different kinds of mongering. Some like the free range that Clisante offers. Some like the corral of Blackbeards. Some like the stripper pole bar set up that La Passion had. Some like the hard casas like GBP. Some like street walkers. Some like a disco filled with hookers so they can have the fantasy that they are picking some chick up. Some like to meet chicks online who will accept money for sex. So why guys from the USA NE go to Sosua in droves hve nothing to do with them not being able to find a hole to stick it in back home.

Ask SubCmdr how to meet sugarbabies online. Hell they have an entire website with that exact name. Besides that, go on some other dating sites, facebook, instagram. It is not hard to discern who the chicks are that will go for that type of arrangement. Most of the time they even write it in their profiles. It is not brain surgery.

Utter baloney. For a start most of the activities you mention would not be legal in the US, like the fuck parties you mention. Secondly, if a lot of the guys who go to Sosua are in relationships, it would be impossible to conceal their absence for multiple days from home, work, child custody arrangements, and so on.

People who live in beach places rarely go to other beach places for vacations. I lived for many years in Bermuda, so I know what I am talking about.

The Sugarbabies Web site is just a front for a prostitution Web site, just as Ashley Madison was, and there are illegal prostitutes on sites like Facebook. Are you really that naive?

Yes, people can get laid where they live, sometimes they can get serial partners, but easily getting 18 and 19 year-old students for $200 or $300 per month pocket money is a total fantasy.

[Mr Enternational]

In any case, if it is so easy, why the New York crowd are being bad mouthed for screwing Sosua up by going there in droves? I mean they would be happy to do it in their ghettos, wouldn't they? Reading others' notes, like a recent one of Old Kool, who wonders about the life of a 60 yr old male in the US of A, I do not see anything that corroborates your statement or the way you make it sound: Easy, peasy. Of course, you in person are an exception- I know you get free pussy everywhere but I am speaking of the average Joe.

You are acting like people can't get laid where they live. What is the big deal with that? You are a man and I am sure there are women where you live. Nature.

Why does the NY crew go to DR? Dude. For fun. Half of the guys are probably in relationships back home anyway so it is not like they are starving for pussy. Why do people from Miami, NY, CA go on vacation to another beach destination? They have beaches right where they live.

Is it only in Atlanta or don't guys in other cities have fuck parties where you invite a bunch a strippers over to someone's house and you can go fuck them in one of the rooms for $40? Even with setups like that people like a change of scenery every now and then.

Then you have to remember different mongers like different kinds of mongering. Some like the free range that Clisante offers. Some like the corral of Blackbeards. Some like the stripper pole bar set up that La Passion had. Some like the hard casas like GBP. Some like street walkers. Some like a disco filled with hookers so they can have the fantasy that they are picking some chick up. Some like to meet chicks online who will accept money for sex. So why guys from the USA NE go to Sosua in droves hve nothing to do with them not being able to find a hole to stick it in back home.

Ask SubCmdr how to meet sugarbabies online. Hell they have an entire website with that exact name. Besides that, go on some other dating sites, facebook, instagram. It is not hard to discern who the chicks are that will go for that type of arrangement. Most of the time they even write it in their profiles. It is not brain surgery.

[FleaBag]

I live here. Went to Santiago on Friday morning, got back Friday afternoon about 5:30 pm and there had to be about 10 cops and cesturs looking for chicas. However, they are still being creative in getting in town as Classico and Merengue was full. Still no Rumba. Chicas are now hanging out across the street at Bourbon Street bar.

Nonetheless, the heat is still on and walking the strip is a automatic trip to jail for them.