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  1. #25065
    Quote Originally Posted by Frannie  [View Original Post]
    As usual, I cannot disagree more with this poster. Mongering will not teach you what being a man is about in any way that I can think of.
    I could not agree more with you. I started around 33 as work took me to various continents but I cannot imagine a normal young person looking for paid sex, indeed it might screw up a man's perspective by looking at women as objects.

  2. #25064
    Quote Originally Posted by Oakie  [View Original Post]
    Don't let the lack of Spanish deter you from at least visiting Sosua. A monger and a puta can always communicate. That language is universal, LOL. You hold up two fingers, she holds up three, and it's fun figuring out the saw off, over a beer.

    I was like you when I started, no Spanish, but from that first beer, I knew I was where I wanted to be.

    I could be wrong but I doubt many guys would go to Blackbeards, after seeing Sosua.
    Anyone who makes the effort can pick up a useful amount of Spanish in a few weeks of study. The language has many words similar to English, so what you need is same basic phraseology to join up the dots and a bit of common vocabulary.

    Words like policia, taxi, hospital, clinica, antibiotic, dentista, doctora aeropuerto, platano, pi-pi, ca-ca, ficky-ficky, banco, supermercado. pharmacia, restaurante, pizza, are not worth bothering with as they are obvious.

    Learn the numbers and most common colors like red, blue, green, yellow, orange, black, white, pink.

    Learn the basic form of the 20 most common verbs and their opposites, like stop-go, come-go, drive-walk-run, eat-drink, go to bed-get up, cost-pay, give-take, love-hate, live-die, be, have, hurt.

    Learn a dozen of the most common adjectives their opposites, like hot-cold, fast-slow, good-bad, tired, drunk, left-right.

    Learn common converstational words like yes-no, good morning--good night, thank you, excuse me, I would like. , how much is?, hungry, thirsty, where is the bathroom, how are you, I have no money. Fuck off.

    Learn a few words for common foods, like potatoes, pork, chicken, beef, salad, ice cream, beer, wine, coffee, tea, rice, bread, cheese, milk (very important), fried.

    Now you are good to go. If you just learn 5 words per day for two months, then you have 300 words and that is plenty to get by.

  3. #25063
    Quote Originally Posted by Oakie  [View Original Post]
    I could be wrong but I doubt many guys would go to Blackbeards, after seeing Sosua.
    Very wrong. I never stayed at Blackbeards again after getting to know my way around Puerto Plata (it was a good mongering area for learners in those days). But Sosua is not for everyone. Many guys prefer to return to Blackbeards or Field of Dreams (before the latter went south).

    Many first-timers have a bad experience in Sosua through bad luck or naivety and it puts them off the DR for life. A member of my family, an eight-trip Thailand vet, hated it. He had no Spanish. He moved to Blackbeards for the last four days of his two weeks and loved it. He blamed me for not booking him there for the whole two weeks. He will never come back to the DR.

  4. #25062
    Quote Originally Posted by ForceSteeler  [View Original Post]
    Well I started mongering at 25 Years old and its the best decision of my life. It really taught me what being a man is about. I also suggest getting all the fucking out of your system that way when you ready to get married and settle down, You won't care about cheating as much like that. I would have hate finding out about mongering at the age of 50. You will be more depressed and have regrets that you did not find out about the lifestyle sooner.
    As usual, I cannot disagree more with this poster. Mongering will not teach you what being a man is about in any way that I can think of.

    I did not discover mongering until I was over 50, and I am very glad that I did not, and I am not in the slightest bit depressed, nor do I have any regrets, because mongering can easily become like an addiction and divert your mental and financial resources from other career goals and other forms of personal and intellectual development. For example you will probably give up on the idea of traveling to all kinds of interesting places overseas that are not mongering destinations. For a few years mongering was a ruling passion in my life, but now it is much less so and it something I can take or leave, just like getting a massage or a haircut or a pedicure, which is the way I like it.

    The advantages of mongering are: 1. Having sex with much younger women than you could have for free. 2. Having sex with more beautiful women than you could have for free. 3. Being able to fulfil some sexual fantasies that you would find very hard to get on for free, for example threesomes with two women and you.

    I cannot think of any really good reasons why I would recommend a young person in their 20's to take up mongering, unless perhaps they had some kind of handicap that stopped them from having normal relationships without paying, or were on the way to becoming 40-year-old virgins and wanted to find out how to relate to women in a sexual way.

    In addition, for a younger man traveling to the DR would open up a huge range of attractive Dominican and Haitian women with whom there is a possibility of legitimate long term relationships outside the scope of mongering, or paying women for sex acts.

    Essential reading for younger, or older, mongers (I know no one will pay attention to this, but putting it here anyway).

    1. My Secret Life by Paul Theroux. A semifictional novel about the author's sex life from his teen years onwards, including a fascinatingly hilarious section about mongering in Africa as a young Peace Corps volunteer, and having sex with a young female leper in a leper colony in the same room as her blind grandmother, confronting his wife's lover and spraying him with a water pistol full of [CodeWord109], plus numerous other sexual encounters. The book is available from Amazon, of course.

    2. Porn. A totally brilliant and hilarious 49 minute documentary on YouTube made by Louis Theroux (son of Paul Theroux) about the making of porno movies in which Theroux himself plays a part in a porn movie. This movie should be of massive interest to any young would-be monger, as it explodes many of the myths of pornography and demonstrates that even the actors in pornography do not have "porn star experience" sex. Just Google "Porn Louis Theroux YouTube" if you want to see it.

  5. #25061
    Quote Originally Posted by NewbieMonger23  [View Original Post]
    I appreciate the feedback I consider myself cautious and for my first trip honestly would probably not venture into Sosua not knowing Spanish. 10 days seems like a lot but honestly the way I see it if their are at least 20 girls having 2 a day for 10 days sounds like a lot of fun to me! Hopefully seeing fellow mongers and having a good time. Working hard most of the year I don't really see the point going all the way to the DR for only 3-4 days. Would 10 days really be too much? What's the average length of your guys trips to the DR?
    Don't let the lack of Spanish deter you from at least visiting Sosua. A monger and a puta can always communicate. That language is universal, LOL. You hold up two fingers, she holds up three, and it's fun figuring out the saw off, over a beer.

    I was like you when I started, no Spanish, but from that first beer, I knew I was where I wanted to be.

    I could be wrong but I doubt many guys would go to Blackbeards, after seeing Sosua.

  6. #25060
    Quote Originally Posted by Frannie  [View Original Post]
    Two trips of four days might be better than one trip of ten days and the overall cost about the same.
    Eight days for the price of ten? Great idea, Frannie. Maybe makes sense if popping over from Miami, but from Canada not.

    My first ever DR trip I spent two weeks at Blackbeards. Could cheerfully have stayed another two, but the money ran out.

    Never stayed there in the nine years since, because once I learned a bit of Spanish (still don't know a helluva lot more, I am ashamed to say) I could enjoy a more varied and adventurous time free-range, but I still think it is a great place to start.

  7. #25059
    Quote Originally Posted by NewbieMonger23  [View Original Post]
    My budget is not tight I could bring 3000 I said 2500 because I thought 180 a day would be plenty. Around 50 for ST and 80 LT still leaves me with 50 dollars for food and drink. Remaining 700 is hotel for the trip. Only bummer is I'm in Canada and our dollar was on par with the USA J
    Are you estimating here in US or Can $?

    If US $3000 that's US $300 per day:

    US $70 for room.

    US $50 for food and drink (ample for you as you don't drink much, but not really enough to buy chicas food or drinks each day).

    US $70 for TLN (toda la noche = all night. You may not want to do that. I love it but many guys don't).

    US $40 for ST (short time. Usually one cum or up to 2 hours).

    That leaves US $70 for other expenses such as taxis and excursions. Or you may prefer to stay on campus and do another ST or a blowjob in the jacuzzi (US $12).

    I would recommend that you spend one day (midday to early evening) in Sosua to check the place out for a possible future holiday. See if you can find guys to share a taxi, as taxis charge per mile not per person.

    Try to get talking to other guests there. That was a big part of my first trip.

    Also you could spend one afternoon in Puerto Plata on the Malecon. (Would be glad to meet up given enough notice and assuming I am still alive by winter). To be honest, there is not much to see here, but it would make a break from Barba Negra.

    I assume you are talking US $. If you mean Can $3000 you will have to cut right back, and Can $2500 would not be doable.

    Quote Originally Posted by NewbieMonger23  [View Original Post]
    I'm in Canada.
    I know some Canadians learn French. Do you speak any French? If so, this opens up further options for you. You have said that you are OK with black girls. If you speak some French you could get along with Haitian girls. Many of us ex-pats have learned to prefer them. As a rule they are sweeter-natured and less demanding. But no haitianas inside Blackbeards (as far as I know) and if there were they would be same price and same "professional" attitude as the dominicanas there.

    In your circumstances I still recommend Blackbeards. It is ideal for a first trip. After your first trip you will be eager for a quick return to the DR. That second trip you might think about Sosua and the haitiana option so spend a day there to get the feel of the place. You could arrange to meet a board member to show you around. Most of them are "bored" members in the daytime and would be happy to do so.

  8. #25058
    Quote Originally Posted by NewbieMonger23  [View Original Post]
    I appreciate the feedback I consider myself cautious and for my first trip honestly would probably not venture into Sosua not knowing Spanish. 10 days seems like a lot but honestly the way I see it if their are at least 20 girls having 2 a day for 10 days sounds like a lot of fun to me! Hopefully seeing fellow mongers and having a good time. Working hard most of the year I don't really see the point going all the way to the DR for only 3-4 days. Would 10 days really be too much? What's the average length of your guys trips to the DR?
    Two trips of four days might be better than one trip of ten days and the overall cost about the same. Of course this may depend on your ability to get away from work. If you are running a business seven days a week and can only get away for ten days once in the year in the quiet time, then you have no choice. If you are an employee, you can probably get away two times in the year or more. The thing is, if you enjoy your trip, you will probably immediately want to return again, as so many do.

  9. #25057
    Quote Originally Posted by Oakie  [View Original Post]
    A simple question from a newbie has prompted some interesting replies.

    Malaria, HIV and murder! In our sleepy little Sosua?.

    Sosua could be a lot safer than your home town.

    I have been going there for 7 years and know a lot of folks down there and I can tell you their problems are not murder, HIV, or Malaria, LOL.

    Seasoned veteran posters here have been doing it longer and most of the complaints are puta "upselling" and petty theft.

    It happened to me once but only because I took a puta back to my room with absolutely no conversation, because she was so hot! Even at that it was one of my best sessions and only cost me 10 bucks or so to get her to leave.

    Sosua is a tourist area and they are generally safer than the country at large. Countrywide statistics can be misleading. Think Medeilin, Rio and a few other "dangerous places".

    Sometimes there are as many cops on the street in Sosua as putas, Lol
    I appreciate the feedback I consider myself cautious and for my first trip honestly would probably not venture into Sosua not knowing Spanish. 10 days seems like a lot but honestly the way I see it if their are at least 20 girls having 2 a day for 10 days sounds like a lot of fun to me! Hopefully seeing fellow mongers and having a good time. Working hard most of the year I don't really see the point going all the way to the DR for only 3-4 days. Would 10 days really be too much? What's the average length of your guys trips to the DR?

  10. #25056
    Quote Originally Posted by Dickhead  [View Original Post]
    Well, let's see. The murder rate in the DR is about 27 times that of Germany (22.1 vs. 0.8). The DR has malaria, in all areas except Santiago and Santo Domingo, and Germany does not. The DR's HIV rate is seven times that of Germany.
    Shit like that. Hope that was clear enough for you!
    There is Malaria in the DR but not everywhere as you have pointed out. According to the Carter Center, "In 2010, nearly 87,000 cases of malaria were reported on the island of Hispaniola (total population approximately 20 million). Haiti accounted for 97 percent of those cases", which means that 3 percent or 2600 cases of Malaria were reported in the DR in 2010. http://www.cartercenter.org/health/m...ola/index.html Please note that the Hispaniola island is both countries the DR and Haiti combined. There was an increase of incidents of Malaria in the DR after the 2010 earthquake in Haiti, which might have been linked to the massive migration of Haitians to the DR that followed. The numbers have been going down since 2012 due to initiatives to reduce or eliminate malaria, 600 cases in 2013 and 300 were reported in 2014 http://fundacionio.org/viajar/paises...20malaria.html As for the comparison of the murder rate per 100,000 residents between Germany (. 8) vs. Dr (22.1) I would say that it is accurate as per the statistics noted on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._homicide_rate but to put things into perspective and to be fair with the comparison, there are many other countries with a murder rate much higher than the 22.1 DR rate. For example, here is a list of countries that kick the DR in the higher murder rate department:

    Honduras 90.4, Venezuela 53.7, United States Virgin Islands (US) 52.6, Belize 44.7, El Salvador 41.2, Guatemala 39.9, Africa-Lesotho 38, Jamaica 39.3, Africa-Zwaziland 33.8, Saint Kitts and Nevis 33.6, South Africa 31, Colombia 30.8, Brazil 25.2, Bahamas 29.8, Trinidad Tobago 28.3, Africa-Republic of Congo 28.3, USA-Puerto Rico 26.5, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 25.6, and Africa-Rhuwanda 23.1.

    I am pretty sure that most of those countries if not all also have more HIV incidents than the DR too.

    Cerebro.

  11. #25055
    It's always a bit annoying when I read others making it look like DR and other countries in Latin America are places where your chances of being murdered are pretty high compared to Europe. There are stats, both accurate and inaccurate (crime can go unreported and this is not uncommon) but let's be realistic. Bad things can happen to you anywhere, and even more so if you don't use common sense. Sosua is fine if you don't speak Spanish, there are going to be women who don't speak any english but for the most part there are enough english speaking visitors to where many people can speak a few words of english. It's always advised to learn a few basic words in Spanish when going anywhere in Latin America.

    I've been to Barcelona a few times and have always felt like I'd get pick pocketed, I'm generally cautious everywhere I go and do my best not to stand out. Same thing goes in Amsterdam, and in Frankfurt. While these cities are considered "safe" by statistics, crime does exist and bad things can happen. Walk around the red light districts of these cities and you'll see plenty of shady characters, and drugged out thugs walking around looking for easy prey. While the Caribbean and Latin America have illnesses such as Malaria and Chikungaya, you could eat something in Europe or anywhere for that matter that gives you food poisoning etc. You could touch something that gives you an illness. Yes, the stats will say that this is a much more common occurrence in Latin America, but it's unrealistic to assume that make it look like "if you go to Sosua, you are 22 x more likely to end up dead. But if you go to Germany, you're going to be screwing girls left and right with no chance of something bad happening. " That type of mindset is no only ignorant, but it's wrong.

    Everyone has their own experiences, and while there are greater risks in certain parts of the world based of statistics. It's stuff that can happen anywhere. Go to shady parts of big cities in the United States and you put yourself in risk for being in the wrong place. Sosua is not big. The DR is not a rich country, you see lots of poverty, and there are always going to be people who want to take advantage of your being there. But use some common sense with the way you present yourself, with the things you do, and you'll have an excellent time. I used to hold myself back from going to certain places because of all those stats, then I decided to take a chance and experience it myself and rely on opinions of those that actually had been to those places. Not everything has been perfect, but I've had much more fun mongering in the caribbean and latin america than in Europe. Experiences will vary.

  12. #25054

    You sound afraid

    Jf you are afraid of your shadow do not go to the DR. It rains there some times. I have been all over the DR. I have never been sick or murdered. Much like every guy on this site.

    I have been to the DR about 15 times and have had no problems other then no leche from to much sex. When were you last in the DR.

    If you are

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickhead  [View Original Post]
    Plus once you have AIDS and malaria, you won't really care if you get murdered. But seriously, I have been travelling and mongering in Latin America for over 40 years and I speak fluent Spanish. This guy does not. So I think safety is not an inappropriate factor for him to consider. Obviously if he just goes to BB for 10 days and doesn't wander around, it will be much less of a factor.

    But that concept fails to excite me. Bear in mind I have not been to Blackbeard's.
    .

  13. #25053

    Relax, enjoy!

    A simple question from a newbie has prompted some interesting replies.

    Malaria, HIV and murder! In our sleepy little Sosua?.

    Sosua could be a lot safer than your home town.

    I have been going there for 7 years and know a lot of folks down there and I can tell you their problems are not murder, HIV, or Malaria, LOL.

    Seasoned veteran posters here have been doing it longer and most of the complaints are puta "upselling" and petty theft.

    It happened to me once but only because I took a puta back to my room with absolutely no conversation, because she was so hot! Even at that it was one of my best sessions and only cost me 10 bucks or so to get her to leave.

    Sosua is a tourist area and they are generally safer than the country at large. Countrywide statistics can be misleading. Think Medeilin, Rio and a few other "dangerous places".

    Sometimes there are as many cops on the street in Sosua as putas, Lol

  14. #25052
    He is in Canada. A trip to Germany would be going into warmer weather. Moreover, the FKKs are heated, he could spend the entire day there; meals are provided. Taxis are heated. His hotel room will be heated. If it is a monger trip and not a sightseeing trip he should be okay. If money is not an issue for him a trip to FKKland is a no brainer.

  15. #25051
    Plus once you have AIDS and malaria, you won't really care if you get murdered. But seriously, I have been travelling and mongering in Latin America for over 40 years and I speak fluent Spanish. This guy does not. So I think safety is not an inappropriate factor for him to consider. Obviously if he just goes to BB for 10 days and doesn't wander around, it will be much less of a factor.

    But that concept fails to excite me. Bear in mind I have not been to Blackbeard's.

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