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  1. #25005

    Be careful / be smart

    Head out about 930 last night. Stroll the strip, still slow. Head to Rumba. Get a beer, and sit and watch Canadian foitball on the big screen. Plenty of chicas, but very few even worth looking at. Finish my beer, its now after 1100. Head down towards Classicos. Quality of girls is much better. At one point, I see some police. Girls go scattering into the bars, like roaches when you turn on a light. I'm leaning against the wall, taking in the sights. A chica approaches, who I already turned down. She's trying, one more time, and is rubbing up against me. I have my guard up, with my left hand in my peso pocket.

    She leaves, and I'm immediately groped, aggressively, by a sloppy chica. She's not dressed up, and has a beer belly most of my friends would not be seen in. I push her away, and she comes back at me, sticking her butt in my crotch. I push her off, and she gets mad. I go to check my peso pocket, and its empty. I accuse her, and she says it was the girl before me.

    So, what do I do? I can't prove it was her. There was the girl, right before her, but my hand stayed in my pocket the entire time. The girl who probably took it, looks rough, I'm in a foreign country, and speak very little Spanish. I decide to cut my losses, and get out of there.

    It wasn't much money, but was more than I should have had on me. Chica money could have stayed in the room. It happened in a split second, never saw it coming. Never felt it happened. She was a pro. The grope distracted me, followed by the scuffle to change the topic. Most probably dontbnoticenthe money missing that quick. She attacked right after the first girl, to use her as an alibi. Doubt they were together, since first girl approached in Rumba earlier.

  2. #25004

    In Praise of Older Men

    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    I'm going to have to call nonsense on this one too.

    The DR pros, like other pros, prefer older men to younger men for some very good reasons. First, an older man is more likely to be considerate, a younger man is generally out to get what he wants and doesn't care about making it a better experience for the pro. This may seem like nothing, but if the girl is too sore to walk after 15 minutes of dry jackhammer action, she's not going to be making any money for the next 3 days.

    Next, the older men are more likely to be respectful, such as during the initial meeting, or when dickering over the price. Just because a girl is selling herself doesn't mean she doesn't have feelings. Given the choice she'd rather go with the guy who treats her nice, rather than the guy who treats her like a piece of meat.

    The older guys are more appreciative, less rushed, less demanding, and less likely to treat them like a pro.

    These same qualities also work well with non-pros, especially outside the US, where an older man with a younger woman is more widely accepted.
    I wrote almost exactly your post about a year ago, but I don't find what Forcesteeler said contradicted our views. It actually augments them.

    Because there are as many reasons why some chicas will prefer an older man, as there are chicas.

  3. #25003

    Everything comes with a price

    Quote Originally Posted by Combo  [View Original Post]
    There's definitely such a thing as free (unless you count time spent on the encounter as a cost). When I was 35 and younger, I got lots of girls for free in the USA And I'm sure many of my monger brothers on here did the same. Girls like to fuck also and if they find a guy attractive for whatever reason, many will fuck just for the enjoyment of it.

    Don't tell me you never went on Spring Break and fucked a chick or two from across the country, both parties knowing nothing would come of it.

    Alas, if you're my age (51), the only girls you can get for free in the USA are about 40 year old and up. That's where this mongering thing comes into play!
    If I take a girl out on a date and spend on gas for the car, for the meal at the restaurant, I will add the money spent to the earnings I could have made working instead of spending time with her. Even if I don't take her out and she comes over to my place the time I would spend with her is worth something to me for my time is money. If I make her my GF or worse my wife then we're talking major expense, more so than p4 p. As Charlie Sheen says "I don't pay hookers for sex, I pay them to leave". Nothing worth having is free.

  4. #25002
    Quote Originally Posted by Tempoecorto  [View Original Post]
    Free? Really? Is there such a thing?

    BTW, as far as this forum is concerned, getting it for free is only one man's prerogative!
    There's definitely such a thing as free (unless you count time spent on the encounter as a cost). When I was 35 and younger, I got lots of girls for free in the USA And I'm sure many of my monger brothers on here did the same. Girls like to fuck also and if they find a guy attractive for whatever reason, many will fuck just for the enjoyment of it.

    Don't tell me you never went on Spring Break and fucked a chick or two from across the country, both parties knowing nothing would come of it.

    Alas, if you're my age (51), the only girls you can get for free in the USA are about 40 year old and up. That's where this mongering thing comes into play!

  5. #25001
    Quote Originally Posted by ForceSteeler  [View Original Post]
    .....where a guy that is 25-29 Years old or younger can get it for free...
    Free? Really? Is there such a thing?

    BTW, as far as this forum is concerned, getting it for free is only one man's prerogative!

  6. #25000
    Quote Originally Posted by AthTrainer  [View Original Post]
    Started my evening at Rumbas, again. A little more crowded than Tues night. Quantity but not quality. A petite chica stops by, wearing a hat. Like her look, and attitude. Friendly and playful, and just a little English. Ordered a sm beer. She had 2 friends, who left after we started talking. The one looked prettier in the face, and younger.

    Back to the room, still good attitude, and still looked good with her clothes off. We did a little of pretty much everything, no rush. No upsell when done. Did ask for moto money. No biggie. Asked about return visit jn the am. Arranged for 1130.

    She showed up after 1200. Not a surprise. Still wearing that hat, and still looked good in daylight. Back in the room, a little faster pace than the night before. I wasnt feellng it, but she was a trooper, and go the job done. Did ask for a tip. I gave her moto money, and she was ok. Talked about tonight. I was uncomittal, and she was good. Need some change, if I'm going to leche tonight.
    Thanks for the current reports.

    (I can almost smell it)

  7. #24999
    Quote Originally Posted by ForceSteeler  [View Original Post]
    I have been mongering for 5 Years and I'm a young guy (32 Years old) and most hookers prefer older men like 50 Years+. They like older men because it's a better chance of having a relationship or aka Western Union Novio. Younger crowd are usually sport fuckers and it's much harder to extract money because most young guys are not established like older men. Now if your trying to get a Non-Pro or trying to get pussy for free, Then these kind of girls prefer a more younger guy. A Non-Pro in the Dominican Republic does not want to walk around with a 50 year old Gringo as most people will think she is a hooker. She would prefer someone close to her age to kinda blend in and not get stares when she walks through the mall. But even older guys 50+ year still have a chance, you just have to tailor your game into which you don't make a Non-Pro feel like a hooker. I know I just contradicted myself but the main thing is if your a older guy expect to spend money where a guy that is 25-29 Years old or younger can get it for free.
    Another post hits the spot!

    Signed.

    An older guy.

  8. #24998
    Quote Originally Posted by OldKool  [View Original Post]
    When you find a winner repeating is a great thing. Sometimes we are so anxious for numbers we sacrifice quality. I bet you will will have a ball on round 2. Thanks for the reports tske pictures.
    Started my evening at Rumbas, again. A little more crowded than Tues night. Quantity but not quality. A petite chica stops by, wearing a hat. Like her look, and attitude. Friendly and playful, and just a little English. Ordered a sm beer. She had 2 friends, who left after we started talking. The one looked prettier in the face, and younger.

    Back to the room, still good attitude, and still looked good with her clothes off. We did a little of pretty much everything, no rush. No upsell when done. Did ask for moto money. No biggie. Asked about return visit jn the am. Arranged for 1130.

    She showed up after 1200. Not a surprise. Still wearing that hat, and still looked good in daylight. Back in the room, a little faster pace than the night before. I wasnt feellng it, but she was a trooper, and go the job done. Did ask for a tip. I gave her moto money, and she was ok. Talked about tonight. I was uncomittal, and she was good. Need some change, if I'm going to leche tonight.

  9. #24997
    Quote Originally Posted by ForceSteeler  [View Original Post]
    I have been mongering for 5 Years and I'm a young guy (32 Years old) and most hookers prefer older men like 50 Years+. They like older men because it's a better chance of having a relationship or aka Western Union Novio. Younger crowd are usually sport fuckers and it's much harder to extract money because most young guys are not established like older men. Now if your trying to get a Non-Pro or trying to get pussy for free, Then these kind of girls prefer a more younger guy. A Non-Pro in the Dominican Republic does not want to walk around with a 50 year old Gringo as most people will think she is a hooker. She would prefer someone close to her age to kinda blend in and not get stares when she walks through the mall. But even older guys 50+ year still have a chance, you just have to tailor your game into which you don't make a Non-Pro feel like a hooker. I know I just contradicted myself but the main thing is if your a older guy expect to spend money where a guy that is 25-29 Years old or younger can get it for free.
    I'm going to have to call nonsense on this one too.

    The DR pros, like other pros, prefer older men to younger men for some very good reasons. First, an older man is more likely to be considerate, a younger man is generally out to get what he wants and doesn't care about making it a better experience for the pro. This may seem like nothing, but if the girl is too sore to walk after 15 minutes of dry jackhammer action, she's not going to be making any money for the next 3 days.

    Next, the older men are more likely to be respectful, such as during the initial meeting, or when dickering over the price. Just because a girl is selling herself doesn't mean she doesn't have feelings. Given the choice she'd rather go with the guy who treats her nice, rather than the guy who treats her like a piece of meat.

    The older guys are more appreciative, less rushed, less demanding, and less likely to treat them like a pro.

    These same qualities also work well with non-pros, especially outside the US, where an older man with a younger woman is more widely accepted.

  10. #24996
    Quote Originally Posted by AColonizer  [View Original Post]
    I don't trust anything about prostitutes, no groaning voice no muscle contractions, that's just an acting. I say, I saw too many unimaginable frauds and scams: in fact a prostitute understands the type of man in front of her and she acts the role of the poor little girl. The real story is the opposite and it has lasted millennia and it always works with butter-hearted men.
    There are a few physiological reactions that a woman, prostitute or not, can't fake, same as a man can't fake an erection. The difference between an aroused and an un aroused pussy is quite obvious, and the former is a helluva lot more enjoyable.

  11. #24995
    Quote Originally Posted by AColonizer  [View Original Post]
    I don't trust anything about prostitutes, no groaning voice no muscle contractions, that's just an acting. I say, I saw too many unimaginable frauds and scams: in fact a prostitute understands the type of man in front of her and she acts the role of the poor little girl. The real story is the opposite and it has lasted millennia and it always works with butter-hearted men.
    I see your point. With ANY woman, you never know what really satisfies her until you've known her long enough to have "the talk," where you really discuss what you and she like and don't like. Until then, unless you are inside her when she climaxes, you never really know where she is. Unless she starfishes, then you know.

    Not that it matters. As long as her performance convinces you in the moment, for STRs, that's all that really matters. Basing your satisfaction by trying to gauge whether SHE is really being genuine in this or that is an exercise in futility. If she is not your girlfriend, then why do you care?

  12. #24994

    Smart move

    When you find a winner repeating is a great thing. Sometimes we are so anxious for numbers we sacrifice quality. I bet you will will have a ball on round 2. Thanks for the reports tske pictures.

    Quote Originally Posted by AthTrainer  [View Original Post]
    I agree. Attitude is more important than looks. My first impression of this girl was she had both. As the night went on, I learned better. The girl I found lat night had great attitude and good look. She was as good in the room as she was at the bar. She's suppose to come back this am for sum more.

  13. #24993
    Quote Originally Posted by OldKool  [View Original Post]
    We are often so sex starved and deperate we accept anything the girls do. However I have learned that no, matter how pretty the girl is iff her attitude sucks the sex will suffer. I will take a decent looking girl over a 10 if her attitude is bad. If the girl is not enjoying the session with me I feel cheated.
    I agree. Attitude is more important than looks. My first impression of this girl was she had both. As the night went on, I learned better. The girl I found lat night had great attitude and good look. She was as good in the room as she was at the bar. She's suppose to come back this am for sum more.

  14. #24992

    10's R US!

    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    I, therefore, see it as my task to get the girl to enjoy the session. .
    Negotiate the price AFTER you've fucked them!

    You should get a major discount LOL.

    But I share your love of 10's. In my old age I can still get 6's for free at home, but I'm not interested. To get a 10 P4P here, it always took some effort to search, set up, was expensive, hit and miss, and the good ones didn't stick around.

    But I got lucky and stopped going to DR for 2 years because I found my dream girl (yes another one) right here. A beautiful Japanese part time student and independent stripper (yes, really!), who drove her own car (and sometimes even cooked for me). It was a "you help me, I help you" (no meter running) deal and just like my DR regular we both enjoyed the deal.

    After I had that for over a year I was totally spoiled. I figured I could now die happy.

    Being young, she moved on and I moved back to DR.

  15. #24991
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Usually a hooker will enjoy the session if you are young and handsome. However, I am no Brad Pitt, more like an Ernest Borgnine. I, therefore, see it as my task to get the girl to enjoy the session. Recently (in SEA where I am now), I encountered a starfish among starfishes; after taking off her clothes she lay flat on her back on the bed with her eyes closed. When asked she said she does not do BJ and when I tried to go down on her she refused. What was a guy to do? Acknowledging that there was a risk of throwing away money here I continued to try to make a session out of the encounter especially as she was so hot with silky smooth skin, beautiful face, slim body. Caressing and kissing that body from head to toe secured my hard on. I entered her in mish then after ten minutes side spoon entry with her left leg up in the air all with minimal reaction on her part. However, when I proceeded to doggy she could not hold back and her moans and groans were genuine. I like it when I make a starfish cry out as I know she has no intention of pleasing me and the noise is not fake. Mission accomplished.
    Great job, Turgid! Remember: we are not here to look good for women; women are here to look good for us.

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