Sosua Reports

[Tempoecorto]

I am trying to give perspective to those that think there is "all this money" being made by these girls. Anyone who knows Dominican Culture, knows that these girls are supporting way more than just themselves with this activity. And there is a social stigma that comes with it in the higher levels of society.

Bravo! And this is true not only of the DR but all across the globe, reason why I hold those males in low esteem, that start a post / conversation by, for example, wondering, where in (name any country), can one find the "bit*hes".

You get respect by giving respect which goes a long way in determining the quality of your sexcapades.

[Mr Enternational]

The fact is that for most from the "first world", negotiation as a viable option is news. We are acculturated to pay what the price tag says, whether in Amazon or at the local supermarket or at 7-Eleven.

And I would go as far as to say most are even uncomfortable or shameful trying to bargain for a cheaper price.

Funny thing. I went to the jewelry store in the states a couple of weeks ago. I asked to see a necklace. It had $4700 written on the tag. Dude fooled with the calculator and said with the sale price it will be $3940. I said and what is the weight of it? He said 26.4 grams. I said and what is the spot price of 18 K gold today? He did not know so he got the manager and she looked it up online. It was $41/ gram. (Of course I had already looked it up before entering the store.) I said so you are expecting people to pay 4 times what this thing is worth?

She immediately cut the price to $1900. I laughed and exchanged contact info with the manager and left the store. How many people have gone in there and paid the $4700 for $1100 worth of gold? Or better yet jumped at the supposed "discount" price of $3900 which in actuality is over 3 times the value? All I can do is shake my damn head.

[Tempoecorto]

They bottom line is a guy has to know the language, macho culture, and be able to stand his ground.

It really has little to do with knowing the macho culture or language etc. The fact is that for most from the "first world", negotiation as a viable option is news. We are acculturated to pay what the price tag says, whether in Amazon or at the local supermarket or at 7-Eleven. Curiously, the rich have never lost the tradition and the knowledge that no price is the "final price" : indeed in the stock market, there is always an "ask" and a "bid" price and there is a "spread" between the two. So, the weekend "millionaires" should know that it is indeed an attribute of the rich to hear out the ask price and then bid, no matter how large the spread is. Of course, be prepared to walk away, if our smaller brain allows that to happen. Enjoy!

[GrownMan1]

Best move to make is to get her number and then hit her up on a Mon or Tuesday where the weekend warriors are gone and her weekend money earning comeup starts to run low so she's readily happier to drop her prices by 40 percent.

That's the thing Coolie. They were in the Su Monday through Thursday.

One of the vets said he just started dealing with girls he knew from Boca Chica. Those chica were willing to work with him on the 3000 peso deal. Other than that the Chicas were treating everyone like new gringos. Off with their heads!

On a good note, everyone enjoyed themselves. I told them da Su need guys like them. As for me traveling to the Su for those Chicas is equivalent to traveling to Haiti for chocolate. I can find what I’m looking with no problems without stepping in that direction.

[IronQuinn]

Met my boys in Boca Chica. They just came back from the Su. All except one of the four has been to Sosua at least three times. They enjoyed themselves but they said most of the prices were ridiculous. $120 to $200 quotes. They said they were able to get a few 3000 peso hits.

I've been enjoying the SU since my first visit. I always tell them 2 K pesos. Most girls say no, I shrug and start to walk away, then they grab my arm to negotiate. Half the time they agree, other times, I get it for 2500 pesos. A person doesn't have to be a vet to get those prices, they just can't be an idiot. They bottom line is a guy has to know the language, macho culture, and be able to stand his ground. Stick with that and it doesn't matter how many chumps want to blow their money to change the curve. 2 K is still very doable, I'm doing it, and having good times.

[SubCmdr]

But that does not mean that any thing is wrong with it. I frequent the places I like to frequent. Not the ones being shilled by our so called vet up in here who is on my six like a bogey in an air combat movie. Going to break right. LOL!

The world has gone mad that's what's going on. Them lady sharks are sizing dudes up and are eating WELL on those young thundercats that's acting like money aint a thing and those middle age fat guys that could careless in negotiating as they readily accept their terms and conditions just to get 2 pumps in a nice 21 yr old rump shaker. Meanwhile she's out like a theif in the night as she made more money in less then a hour then a normal dominican makes in 2 weeks. If you're an OG and know the language and culture you can still finesse the gem but if you're a newbie to the culture or has never been to the SU before you're basically fucked with getting premium prices. They're noticing guys don't have alot of time to negoiate lower prices because alot are weekend warriors and they for damn sure know that you didn't fly all the way down there for Bailey's pizza.

True that Mr. Coolie. You are a "man in the arena". That is telling like it is and keeping it one-hundred. Having experienced both Sosua and Las Vegas I can confirm everything you say. Those with less experience operating here would do well to read, and pay attention, then put in to play the principles that my fellow "men in the arena" espouse like Mr. Coolie.

BTW where you meet a female at, will also dictate the prices. Reminds me of Vegas. If I meet a honey at the Bellagio or Wynn she's going to start out at quoting premium prices because of the clientele that's staying at the hotel. Meanwhile the same female knows to greatly lower her price if you meet her at circus circus or downtown freemont. The same is in the SU. If you meet a chick a Bailey's, Rumba and the Casino be prepared for them to quote you ridiculous prices and to hold strong on her conviction. ESPECIALLY during the weekend.

I experienced girls doing the same thing that you mentioned. Girls have invited me to their homes in East Las Vegas or have met in an off strip hotel for a fraction of the price they were charging their clientele on the strip.

Best move to make is to get her number and then hit her up on a Mon or Tuesday where the weekend warriors are gone and her weekend money earning comeup starts to run low so she's readily happier to drop her prices by 40 percent.

But the only way you can do that is to be in Sosua on a Sunday, Monday or Tuesday. And for many of the visitors here that simply is not possible. I get told no in my negotiations at least 2 out 3 times. And at times it goes to 9 out of 10. That is with new girls. But I have built a strong bench of girls that know the deal and take what I give them and are happy for it. But I just cannot resist looking for new girls and seeing if I can get one to come on for the team price that allows me to stay under the salary cap. LOL!.

But when making comparisons with regular workers in the Dominican Republic that is where we part ways. The girls I see that are probably commanding those prices are paying for hair, nails, make-up, outfits. They have travel expenses, lodging expenses, dining out expenses. If they get picked up by the local controlling legal authorities they spend a nasty night in jail, and can be fined or extorted (for money and sexual favors). I am not making excuses for the prices they are charging. But they are not normal workers. They are independent contractors. I am trying to give perspective to those that think there is "all this money" being made by these girls. Anyone who knows Dominican Culture, knows that these girls are supporting way more than just themselves with this activity. And there is a social stigma that comes with it in the higher levels of society.

Everyone must do what works for them. And if they like it, I love it. You and I have options and we don't have to pay those asking prices. Girls know this by how we treat them and they respect that. I would like to ask if you are a "veteran"? And if so, do you like the "new Sosua" as some have put it?

[Coolie High]

Met my boys in Boca Chica. They just came back from the Su. All except one of the four has been to Sosua at least three times. They enjoyed themselves but they said most of the prices were ridiculous. $120 to $200 quotes. They said they were able to get a few 3000 peso hits.

The world has gone mad that's what's going on. Them lady sharks are sizing dudes up and are eating WELL on those young thundercats that's acting like money aint a thing and those middle age fat guys that could careless in negotiating as they readily accept their terms and conditions just to get 2 pumps in a nice 21 yr old rump shaker. Meanwhile she's out like a theif in the night as she made more money in less then a hour then a normal dominican makes in 2 weeks. If you're an OG and know the language and culture you can still finesse the gem but if you're a newbie to the culture or has never been to the SU before you're basically fucked with getting premium prices. They're noticing guys don't have alot of time to negoiate lower prices because alot are weekend warriors and they for damn sure know that you didn't fly all the way down there for Bailey's pizza.

BTW where you meet a female at, will also dictate the prices. Reminds me of Vegas. If I meet a honey at the Bellagio or Wynn she's going to start out at quoting premium prices because of the clientele that's staying at the hotel. Meanwhile the same female knows to greatly lower her price if you meet her at circus circus or downtown freemont. The same is in the SU. If you meet a chick a Bailey's, Rumba and the Casino be prepared for them to quote you ridiculous prices and to hold strong on her conviction. ESPECIALLY during the weekend.

Best move to make is to get her number and then hit her up on a Mon or Tuesday where the weekend warriors are gone and her weekend money earning comeup starts to run low so she's readily happier to drop her prices by 40 percent.

[SubCmdr]

Met my boys in Boca Chica. They just came back from the Su. All except one of the four has been to Sosua at least three times. They enjoyed themselves but they said most of the prices were ridiculous. $120 to $200 quotes. They said they were able to get a few 3000 peso hits.

Girls are telling me minimum 4000 DOP and for what I am asking for 7000 DOP. No thank you! The guys I am hanging out with tell me they are consistently giving 5000 DOP.

Is Sosua the best place in the Dominican Republic for me to purchase social / sexual services? No!.

It is a good thing that I have already built a strong bench that I can call up since I am not signing anyone up at the contract amounts the unproven rookies are seeking. But it is a market place and the girls think they can get it (and they are). I need to rethink turning down that offer of 3000 after she lowered it from 4000. I told her how much lower is she going to go and I want her best price. She got mad at me.

[GrownMan1]

Met my boys in Boca Chica. They just came back from the Su. All except one of the four has been to Sosua at least three times. They enjoyed themselves but they said most of the prices were ridiculous. $120 to $200 quotes. They said they were able to get a few 3000 peso hits.

[SubCmdr]

I am glad you enjoyed the food at Pirates Bay, hands down the best Italian eating place with a Chef, straight from Italy. Apart from the food, the view alone is worth the money sitting there day time or night. I believe, it was Subcmdr, who had written about that place and I completely agree. Shame, people sit day in day out in Baylee or some other dumb place, apparently to fish for women in a place called Sosua, jajaja, bursting at the seams with women! Of course, many of the visitors would not know real Italian food, let alone a good pizza, used to as we are in this country with Olive Garden that feigns to be Italian.

Your post is right on time Mr. T. It just so happens that in the middle of this afternoon hunger pains hit me fierce. The crew I am running with was not interested in eating where I wanted to eat. Different tastes for different people. And I am cool with that. I am not one to hang with the group just to feel like I am being included. When I am on a real team that is doing something significant, yes. I will take one for the team in a moment. But hanging out looking for girls who want to sell me social sexual services, nah, I am taking care of my own needs first.

You know where I was headed Mr. T. Put on my eye patch and started walking. Greeted by the wonderful hostess I took my favorite table right on the rail. You know the place you know the view. In fact, you were the one that put me onto it. And I hit the place in that lull between lunch and dinner. I had the place all to myself. Not a single other person dinning in the restaurant.

I sat down and didn't even have to look at the menu I knew what I wanted. Put in my order and then took a few pictures. Settle back down at my table to enjoy the view and ocean breeze and did not have a care on the world. Peace. Surrounded only by my thoughts and endless beauty. My food came out in two parts and I enjoyed the food, the view and the ocean breeze immensely. The Chef came out to greet me. Another warm reunion. It was outstanding.

You and I understand how Sosua is so much more than just the girls. It is about being on another level actually. Everything in life does not have to cater to the base desires of the self styled "veterans" posting about the Dominican Republic (LOL). That is why I think individuals who are only focused on sexual / social services and "hanging out with their boys" that say they don't like the Sosua and have moved on. Except they have not. They continue to spout diatribe that supports their personal paradigms about Sosua. I do not have to agree with all posts that are made. They do not have to agree with mine. I welcome the opportunity to read different opinions. And then after I read them. I go on about the regularly scheduled enjoyment of my life. Because I do not have to spend my life reading about a place I can see with my own two eyes.

You know how I enjoy my rum. I got three new bottles of Dominican rum here in Sosua and I have not been able to crack one open. Been under the weather. But I hit the pharmacy I recommended before. Got me some cold medicine and have been just resting. Unable to enjoy Sosua in the way I normally do. But as long as I can eat. Pirates Bay will be my first option for a great meal.

[Tempoecorto]

A chica and I were eating delicious pizza at Pirate Bay. Thanks to the fellas on the Sosua board for the great pizza recommendation.

I am glad you enjoyed the food at Pirates Bay, hands down the best Italian eating place with a Chef, straight from Italy. Apart from the food, the view alone is worth the money sitting there day time or night. I believe, it was Subcmdr, who had written about that place and I completely agree. Shame, people sit day in day out in Baylee or some other dumb place, apparently to fish for women in a place called Sosua, jajaja, bursting at the seams with women! Of course, many of the visitors would not know real Italian food, let alone a good pizza, used to as we are in this country with Olive Garden that feigns to be Italian.

[Mr Gogo]

Dude just said the veterans don't support the new Sosua. Maybe he couldn't read my reports. I posted yesterday promoting two new businesses in the new Sosua. It's funny how a guy who promotes getting out and doing it yourself had to get invited to Rumbas LOL. He was too scared to go by himself. Airport codes are sometimes used to name the cities like STI tells me they are talking Santiago while MDE to describe Medellin. Not really hard to figure out that POP means Puerto Plata. It's funny how dude has been in Sosua and not one trip report or hanging out having a good time. Only post was having dinner with a vet in Sosua.

[SubCmdr]

I don't go to KFC or McDonald's here in the Dominican Republic where I live nor in the United States of America when I return to handle personal business. Why, because I can get better chicken at a Pica Pollo than I do at KFC. It is higher quality and lower cost. If I want a fast food hamburger I goto Burger King in both here and the Dominican Republic. It should be noted that there is not a KFC, McDonald's or Burger King in Sosua. There is a Pica Pollo though.

You can't miss what you never had. McDonald's and KFC used to be better back in the day. There are people that loved it back then that would not step foot in those places these days. But there are new people that do not know how great it was back in the day that still fill those restaurants up. Then there are people like me that keep chasing the old days. Maybe once a year I go to KFC hoping it tastes as it did back in the day. And once a year I am like yeah this is exactly why I never come to KFC anymore.

[SubCmdr]

Not my type of place. But my friends like it and invited me to join them out. That place was packed with girls. It has a certain ambiance that I am unable to describe using the appropriate language that would be accurate. That is why I think new people should just goto Sosua and experience it for themselves and make that decision on what they like and what they don't like.

You see, when your entire expat life does not revolve about partying with your boys and getting pussy, your eyes can be open to all of the experiences and opportunities provided by living in the Dominican Republic.

If Sousa is worse than the Sosua of old it is the only place that has not improved for the entire time I have been living in the Dominican Republic. By any objective measure almost everything here has improved since I have been here. What is funny is that POP is an airport. Not many girls you can take out. But there are many in Puerto Plata. And Cabarete. And I get them to come to me by finding them on Tinder. My online experiences have been great. No matter where I have been in the country. And I have had great experiences meeting chicas in person here in Sosua. And all over this beautiful country.

The great thing about the entire Dominican Republic is that you can make it into whatever you choose to make it into for yourself. You do not have to listen to anyone else's opinion of this place or that place. You just operate in the manner that best works for you.

Individuals posting on this board that are stuck in the past seem to not notice that progress is being made everywhere. Progress means change. And change is hard for some people. That is ok. Instead of throwing negativity at Sosua and those who like it, I don't understand why they just don't post what is good about where it is they like to hang out. You know "useable intelligence". But they are too busy playing word games with me. While I keep posting up my experiences. Curious how those who claim to disavow all negativity keep reverting to it themselves.

Now don't get me wrong. I do not post about everything I do. I do not post everything about my experiences in campo or the experiences others have shared in campo. I don't speak about everything that I have seen as I have traveled throughout this country. Places that are never even mentioned ever in the Dominican Republic forums.

With "boots on the ground" and with my own eyes. I see hundred girls in just Kings alone. There is a deep bench that I left sitting of over 30-40 girls that have not been invited to table along with many that are just rooming. I passed 20 entering into the place as I was leaving. And one girl I passed tapped me on my shoulder to get my attention as I was leaving. And remember this is just one venue of many that exist to cater to visitors. People are voting with their feet and their money. And many people are choosing to vote for Kings.

Sosua exists now. The many visitors and the girls that show up to entertain them by selling sexual / social services seem to be happy in their symbiotic relationship. I have been reading about the "death of Sosua" for years now in the forum. I have read in the papers here how they plan to clean up Sosua. But gentlemen, I am pleased to report:

It is still here and going strong

In May 2016: the USD / DOP 45. In Augest 2022: USD / DOP 53. In May 2016:1500. In Augest 2022: due to inflation 1500 DOP is now 1864 DOP. In May of 2015:1500 = 33.33 USD (USD / DOP was 45) In Augest 2022:1864 = 35.17 (USD / DOP is 53). Now we are set up for our analysis with hard numbers (not idealized glory days statements).

In real terms even if you factor in inflation your actual increase has been less than 2 USD (for the 1500 equivalent of 1864 DOP today). You read that right gentlemen less than two dollars.

If you say a short time was 1500 in 2016 and a short time is 3000 in 2022. In USD a short time was 33.33 USD and today a short time is 56.60 USD. That is increase of 23.27 USD. If you cannot afford that now then maybe you should not be buying a plane ticket, paying for a hotel and food for your trip. Maybe what you should be doing is staying home and making more money. Check your ISG history and figure out who said "It is not the money it is about respect". The person who said that does not understand Dominican Culture. I know this from experience.

Now I cannot speak the the quality of the experiences that others have had. But mine have not changed one bit since I have been going to Sosua. I always have a good time. And that is all that matter. That I am having a good time. If you look at the line up of girls who sell me social / sexual services, A third are from Puerta Plata. A third are from areas outside of Sosua but close. And a third I grab off the street. And I set up in Sosua and I only have to move via my feet for my entire stay unless I decide to hop on a moto (something I avoid doing as much as possible).

I am going to remind everyone that there are people disparaging Sousa right now that were critical of me because I had lived in the Dominican Republic for two years and had not gone to Sosua. The more time passes the more things change. They are like former smokers who now are the most anti-smoking people that you know. LOL! Everything changes. If those changes are good or bad depends on your perspective.

I made my first trip report to Sosua in this forum on 05/22/2016. It is fortunate that I am a "man in the arena" and I know that the critics don't count. I ignore them.

Shout out to Mr. Tomjackin for single handedly reminding everyone what the Sosua Reports thread is about. Take me off your list my man. LOL

[Mr Gogo]

Who the fuck needs a guide for a five block area with a beach? It's elementary Watson unless you can't make friends. Dudes saying the New Sosua is better than the old Sosua are just late to the game and making up crazy statements just for an argument or attention. You hangout and the game comes to you, no need to be guided around like a lost dog.

Let me see; did the price of pussy go down to make it better? Nope. Did the attitude of the girls change for the better? No. Are there less guys no competition? No. Are there more clubs and venues? No. Girls go from fucking the whole weekend for 40 usd to 80 usd an hour, and it's gotten better?

Look. Sosua is still fun and has a certain appeal for some groups of guys. But for me it's a pass through spot to see the circus and check in with old friends I have known for years. I would suggest to any vet to try POP or Cabarette.

Actually I think Sosua is missing out on a great opportunity right now. Two friends opened up spots in Sosua recently and they are called "VIP" and " Where is brookland at" and they are having trouble getting client's, most guys just go to Ahnvee or Rumbas / Kings. So if you are in the establishment's I appreciate the patronage.

In closing, the streets of Sosua are for weekend warriors and newbies to shop. Most ex pats that live there have regulars and usually shop in the surrounding areas for fresher girls. It cracks me up to see guys that live in the DR only to discover Sosua 7 years later and now preach on the street walkers. I guess it's better late than never.