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  1. #9747

    Dominican Today

    Quote Originally Posted by Frannie  [View Original Post]
    My interpretation is different.

    It seems to me that what they are saying is that pimping is illegal, and that therefore brothels are illegal since there are owners getting a cut of what the girls bring in, paying taxi drivers to bring them in, etc. In an attempt to reduce the numbers of brothels, they are threatening to arrest the customers and charge them with participating in pimping, since if the number of customers (Johns) dries up, the brothels will go out of business (they hope).

    On the other hand, if the girls are self employed, or doing sex for tips without part of the money going to others, then it is perfectly legal to pay for sex.

    The laws in the DR are somewhat similar to the laws in Britain, where prostitution is legal, but brothels are not legal, nor is street walking, but prostitution via, for example, the Internet is OK where the woman is the principal and there is no one else involved. I understand that there are many massage parlor places in Britain that act as de facto brothels, and they may be in a legal gray area, and subject to closure, which seems more similar to what we are seeing in the DR.

    If prostitution per se is now really wholly illegal, then expect to see a complete collapse of the cabana industry and the hotel industry in places like Sosua. I don't think it is going to happen.
    Prosecutor announces shutdown of all brothels.

    All the prostitution centers, including those where women dance in the nude, will be shutdown by the authorities, Prosecutor General Francisco Domínguez Brito announced today.

    The official said that those shutdowns include not just the massage centers but all those where there is prostitution.

    "The Public Prosecutor's Office has instructions at the national level, not only the National District Office, but also the Vice and Illicit Traffic Department. Different offices of the Public Prosecutor have carried out similar raids and we are supporting the work of the entire Public Prosecutor, ' said the official in a press conference.

    Domínguez Brito said the raids resulted not just from the case of the minors but everything related to prostitution.

    He said that there are many people in the country who take advantage of women's poverty to take them to those centers and to abuse them, and as a consequence Dominican Republic is seen as a nation where sexual favors are offered.

    The Prosecutor General said that it is not possible for the country to continue being sold abroad as a sexual destination, reason why all centers of that nature will be closed.

    "Absolutely all, without distinction. Boca Chica has been a priority for the Public Prosecutor. Today Boca Chica is not the same as it was four or five months ago and still there are difficulties, but we are going to follow-up," he said.

    Last Thursday the National District Public Prosecutor's Office closed several massage parlors in the capital.

    According to the National District's Public Prosecutor Office, in the centers shutdown were found drugs, synthetic penises,"erotic chairs" and handcuffs for sadomasochism.

    For his part, National District Public Prosecutor Jose Manuel Hernandez Peguero said that in the "Center of Aesthetics Omi," located in Leonor de Ovando street, in Gazcue, were found some 1.5 pounds marijuana, with Jose Manuel Lopez being arrested in that raid.

    He added that 102 women and 28 men were arrested, with 12 massage parlors shutdown in Gazcue and in the University Zone.

    In those businesses, according to the officials, there was prostitution and drugs and numerous minors were used in unlawful practices. They said that last Thursday night. 102 women arrested and later released without posting bond. 28 men were questioned and others would be indicted.

    Among the massage parlors shut down are the Reyna Cubana, Cisnes Relax Club, Elegante Center and Estefany Club. Also business without signs in Santiago, Leonor de Ovando, Danae, Cervantes, Deligne Brothers, Socorro Sanchez, Independencia and Doctor Delgado streets, all in the Gazcue sector.

  2. #9746
    Quote Originally Posted by OldKool  [View Original Post]
    Brothels and bachata dancing are as dominican as apple pie. Mr E pandering and Pimping are 2 different things.
    Apple pie ain't Dominican!

    Pan·der [pan-der] noun Also, pan·der·er.

    1. A person who furnishes clients for a prostitute or supplies persons for illicit sexual intercourse; procurer; pimp.

    2. A person who caters to or profits from the weaknesses or vices of others.

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/pandering?s=t

    2pander noun.

    Definition of PANDER.

    1a : a go-between in love intrigues.

    b : pimp

    2: someone who caters to or exploits the weaknesses of others

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pander

  3. #9745
    Quote Originally Posted by Revere  [View Original Post]
    Se said she had to become a prostitute to be able to raise her children.

    For Jennifer Paniagua and Cynthia Garrido, the move could actually increase crime, since many of them would have to look to the underworld because of lack of opportunities and jobs.

    "What we'll have to do in a couple of days will be to go out and rob and kill people, because imagine, we can't do nothing else. I will not let my children starve," Paniagua said.
    Or she can register an account on cupid dot com and hustle foreign men for money. Ha.

    Well, now that paying for pussy is out of question, I ought to lose weight, get fit, have plastic surgery, invent a time machine to roll back my age. Then I should be able to truly get some free pussies. But then the women will be buying me drinks and cooking me meals so they can get to my cock. Will that make them "female johns / janes"? I wouldn't want to get any of my free pussies arrested.

  4. #9744

    Threat of crackdown on Johns roils sex workers

    Santo Domingo (eldia. Com. Do).* Justice minister Francisco Dominguez's warning Thursday that johns (men) who seek sex partners in brothels and streets will be caught and booked has roiled the workers who hawk that service at the notorious downtown area of Centro de Los Heroes.

    "There are customers who've called us to tell us that they won't come. Most of them tell us that it's better in some other place. This has been slow here today, not one customer has been here, and all those who pass say the same thing,"said Carla Matos. 23, who like other sexual workers rebukes the measure citing the children they raise as the result of their work.

    Se said she had to become a prostitute to be able to raise her children.

    For Jennifer Paniagua and Cynthia Garrido, the move could actually increase crime, since many of them would have to look to the underworld because of lack of opportunities and jobs.

    "What we'll have to do in a couple of days will be to go out and rob and kill people, because imagine, we can't do nothing else. I will not let my children starve," Paniagua said.

  5. #9743
    Quote Originally Posted by Frannie  [View Original Post]
    My interpretation is different.

    It seems to me that what they are saying is that pimping is illegal, and that therefore brothels are illegal since there are owners getting a cut of what the girls bring in, paying taxi drivers to bring them in, etc. In an attempt to reduce the numbers of brothels, they are threatening to arrest the customers and charge them with participating in pimping, since if the number of customers (Johns) dries up, the brothels will go out of business (they hope).

    On the other hand, if the girls are self employed, or doing sex for tips without part of the money going to others, then it is perfectly legal to pay for sex.

    The laws in the DR are somewhat similar to the laws in Britain, where prostitution is legal, but brothels are not legal, nor is street walking, but prostitution via, for example, the Internet is OK where the woman is the principal and there is no one else involved. I understand that there are many massage parlor places in Britain that act as de facto brothels, and they may be in a legal gray area, and subject to closure, which seems more similar to what we are seeing in the DR.

    If prostitution per se is now really wholly illegal, then expect to see a complete collapse of the cabana industry and the hotel industry in places like Sosua. I don't think it is going to happen.
    Is GBP (Gimnasio Bar Privado) a brothel? What about Slip on me? I went to both. Slip on me was like a real massage, and Gimnasio Bar Privado had a bar? Are those Brothels? If not, can you name the brothels on the Malecon they are referring to? I must have missed the brothels when I was there or didn't know them by name!

    Thanks!

  6. #9742
    Quote Originally Posted by Frannie  [View Original Post]
    My interpretation is different.

    It seems to me that what they are saying is that pimping is illegal, and that therefore brothels are illegal since there are owners getting a cut of what the girls bring in, paying taxi drivers to bring them in, etc. In an attempt to reduce the numbers of brothels, they are threatening to arrest the customers and charge them with participating in pimping, since if the number of customers (Johns) dries up, the brothels will go out of business (they hope).

    On the other hand, if the girls are self employed, or doing sex for tips without part of the money going to others, then it is perfectly legal to pay for sex.

    The laws in the DR are somewhat similar to the laws in Britain, where prostitution is legal, but brothels are not legal, nor is street walking, but prostitution via, for example, the Internet is OK where the woman is the principal and there is no one else involved. I understand that there are many massage parlor places in Britain that act as de facto brothels, and they may be in a legal gray area, and subject to closure, which seems more similar to what we are seeing in the DR.

    If prostitution per se is now really wholly illegal, then expect to see a complete collapse of the cabana industry and the hotel industry in places like Sosua. I don't think it is going to happen.
    Frannie. You know better than I. I believe you. You have provided excellent information to the forum. I'm sure if it is different, reports will soon come in to this forum ISG or DR1.

  7. #9741
    Quote Originally Posted by Princzz  [View Original Post]
    It appears you can no longer even PAY for pussy in Santo Domingo or you will go to jail! It is funny that they are focusing on the tourist areas in the Malecon / Gazcue. They must want to clean that area up for the anglos, especially since they stated that will be first. Now, those who must pay for pussy monger will go to jail according to the Attorney General! Mongers beware! Prostitution is now illegal as of May 9, 2013 in All of the Dominican Republic!
    Its a dumb reaction to the Menendez incident. They are embarrassed and want to be seen as doing something. Could be real change coming and used to go after some people that were being protected (casa owners) or simply loud talk. When he did something similar in 2005, it was raids every weekend and paddywagons full of SW's. That slowly recedes in a few weeks.

  8. #9740
    Quote Originally Posted by Princzz  [View Original Post]
    It appears you can no longer even PAY for pussy in Santo Domingo or you will go to jail! It is funny that they are focusing on the tourist areas in the Malecon / Gazcue. They must want to clean that area up for the anglos, especially since they stated that will be first. Now, those who must pay for pussy monger will go to jail according to the Attorney General! Mongers beware! Prostitution is now illegal as of May 9, 2013 in All of the Dominican Republic!
    My interpretation is different.

    It seems to me that what they are saying is that pimping is illegal, and that therefore brothels are illegal since there are owners getting a cut of what the girls bring in, paying taxi drivers to bring them in, etc. In an attempt to reduce the numbers of brothels, they are threatening to arrest the customers and charge them with participating in pimping, since if the number of customers (Johns) dries up, the brothels will go out of business (they hope).

    On the other hand, if the girls are self employed, or doing sex for tips without part of the money going to others, then it is perfectly legal to pay for sex.

    The laws in the DR are somewhat similar to the laws in Britain, where prostitution is legal, but brothels are not legal, nor is street walking, but prostitution via, for example, the Internet is OK where the woman is the principal and there is no one else involved. I understand that there are many massage parlor places in Britain that act as de facto brothels, and they may be in a legal gray area, and subject to closure, which seems more similar to what we are seeing in the DR.

    If prostitution per se is now really wholly illegal, then expect to see a complete collapse of the cabana industry and the hotel industry in places like Sosua. I don't think it is going to happen.

  9. #9739
    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Deuce  [View Original Post]
    Just talked to a friend: As indicated, its him talking at a luncheon. Where he has complete authority to enforce the Pandering law and close Casas, there is no law against solicitation nor his interpretation. They talked if doing this several times but came of it were raids to ensure no minors. At one point, they passed an ordinance stating the girls must perform all monetary transaction but never was enforceable.

    Should make for an interesting summer.
    It appears you can no longer even PAY for pussy in Santo Domingo or you will go to jail! It is funny that they are focusing on the tourist areas in the Malecon / Gazcue. They must want to clean that area up for the anglos, especially since they stated that will be first. Now, those who must pay for pussy monger will go to jail according to the Attorney General! Mongers beware! Prostitution is now illegal as of May 9, 2013 in All of the Dominican Republic!

  10. #9738

    Hard to beleive

    Brothels and bachata dancing are as dominican as apple pie. The life blood of casas are the locals. Dominican have used casas for generations. I doubt this has any teeth but we will see. I do not use casas so this will have very little affect on me. THE PART THAT BLOWS MY MINE is brothels are illegal but they are not shutting them down. They plan to stake out the brothels for customers. Mr E pandering and Pimping are 2 different things.

    Quote Originally Posted by Berthold  [View Original Post]
    What I find strage is that none of the bigger dominican newspapers printed this article such as el nacional, diariolibre, listin diario. In case this is true it is just another great source of income for the policia nacional.

  11. #9737
    Quote Originally Posted by Berthold  [View Original Post]
    What I find strage is that none of the bigger dominican newspapers printed this article such as el nacional, diariolibre, listin diario. In case this is true it is just another great source of income for the policia nacional.
    Just talked to a friend: As indicated, its him talking at a luncheon. Where he has complete authority to enforce the Pandering law and close Casas, there is no law against solicitation nor his interpretation. They talked if doing this several times but came of it were raids to ensure no minors. At one point, they passed an ordinance stating the girls must perform all monetary transaction but never was enforceable.

    Should make for an interesting summer.

  12. #9736
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Enternational  [View Original Post]
    So according to the Attorney General, the top law man in the DR, Old Kool is in actuality a pimp in the eyes of the Dominican government, and therefore finds himself despicable. How do you like them apples? I can't wait to see how this plays out. Looks like you boys had better start looking for some of that free pussy that doesn't exist. LOL
    What I find strage is that none of the bigger dominican newspapers printed this article such as el nacional, diariolibre, listin diario. In case this is true it is just another great source of income for the policia nacional.

  13. #9735

    ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Revere  [View Original Post]
    Guys be careful not sure how this will work?

    Santo Domingo- Any man who goes to brothels in the capital and Santiago for sexual services will be arrested, booked and charged with solicitation, Justice minister Francisco Dominguez warned Wednesday, adding that the measure will begin in five specific points.

    "And men who go to obtain that type of service, for example, we're going to arrest them, those citizens will be charged with pandering, and if they make bail, give them what they want, but they'll be booked with a criminal record and will have to pay bond, and so that will occur at several points," the official said.

    Brothels.

    Dominguez said the first brothels to be staked out are those on the Malecon (Washington Av.) , on the Sarasota, Duarte and Ortega why Gasset, and in Santiago Calle del Sol.

    "He who takes advantage of a woman's poverty, in a position of vulnerability, that's clearly stated as an act of pandering," the official said in an interview by the Corripio Media Group, accompanied by Police chief Jose A. Polanco, Interior and Police minister Jose Ramon Fadul.

    Santo Domingo- Any man who goes to brothels in the capital and Santiago for sexual services will be arrested, booked and charged with solicitation, Justice minister Francisco Dominguez warned Wednesday, adding that the measure will begin in five specific points.

    "And men who go to obtain that type of service, for example, we're going to arrest them, those citizens will be charged with pandering, and if they make bail, give them what they want, but they'll be booked with a criminal record and will have to pay bond, and so that will occur at several points," the official said.
    Soliciting prostitutes outlawed in Dominican Republic.

    Attorney General Francisco Dominguez Brito has announced that soliciting the services of a prostitute in the Dominican Republic is now against the law. The authorities have been tolerant towards prostitution in the past. Dominguez Brito announced that men caught soliciting the services of a prostitute would be arrested and files on them would be recorded in the judiciary.

    Dominguez Brito said that the government would intervene in prostitution centers that are located on George Washington (Malecon) , Sarasota, Duarte, and Ortega why Gasset avenues in Santo Domingo and Calle Del Sol in Santiago."Whoever takes advantage of the poverty of a woman in a situation of vulnerability, the law establishes clearly and rates this as pimping," said Dominguez.

    He made the statement during the Corripio Communications Group Weekly Luncheon event, which was also attended by Major General Jose Armando Polanco Gomez, Minister of Interior and Police Jose Ramon Fadul and deputy minister of Interior and Police Washington Gonzalez.

    Dominguez Brito said they would not be penalizing sex workers, as reported in El Dia. The attorney general said that his office would be sending people to patrol the areas,"so that people know they are there." Dominguez Brito clarified only the clients would be arrested and sent to justice, not the prostitutes.

  14. #9734
    Quote Originally Posted by Love Seeker  [View Original Post]
    Attorney General Francisco Dominguez Brito has announced that soliciting the services of a prostitute in the Dominican Republic is now against the law. "Whoever takes advantage of the poverty of a woman in a situation of vulnerability, the law establishes clearly and rates this as pimping," said Dominguez.
    Quote Originally Posted by OldKool  [View Original Post]
    I find pimps dispicable.
    So according to the Attorney General, the top law man in the DR, Old Kool is in actuality a pimp in the eyes of the Dominican government, and therefore finds himself despicable. How do you like them apples? I can't wait to see how this plays out. Looks like you boys had better start looking for some of that free pussy that doesn't exist. LOL

  15. #9733

    Soliciting prostitutes outlawed in Dominican Republic

    8. Soliciting prostitutes outlawed in Dominican Republic.

    Attorney General Francisco Dominguez Brito has announced that soliciting the services of a prostitute in the Dominican Republic is now against the law. The authorities have been tolerant towards prostitution in the past. Dominguez Brito announced that men caught soliciting the services of a prostitute would be arrested and files on them would be recorded in the judiciary.

    Dominguez Brito said that the government would intervene in prostitution centers that are located on George Washington (Malecon) , Sarasota, Duarte, and Ortega why Gasset avenues in Santo Domingo and Calle Del Sol in Santiago."Whoever takes advantage of the poverty of a woman in a situation of vulnerability, the law establishes clearly and rates this as pimping," said Dominguez.

    He made the statement during the Corripio Communications Group Weekly Luncheon event, which was also attended by Major General Jose Armando Polanco Gomez, Minister of Interior and Police Jose Ramon Fadul and deputy minister of Interior and Police Washington Gonzalez.

    Dominguez Brito said they would not be penalizing sex workers, as reported in El Dia. The attorney general said that his office would be sending people to patrol the areas,"so that people know they are there." Dominguez Brito clarified only the clients would be arrested and sent to justice, not the prostitutes.

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