Santo Domingo

[Charles Pooter]

Now keep in mind that we're having a discussion on food costs here on the island. I'm sure they have other needs such as toiletries, spices, electric bill, netflix, and more importantly daily transportation. So I'm still curious to learn how they can manage to get by on 1500 monthly budget.

I would hardly class Netflix as a family necessity. "Toiletries" sounds a bit posh, unless you mean cleaning materials, laundry and personal hygiene requirements. "Spices" is another odd suggestion. Surely they would be included in "food costs"?

I would estimate a single person needs at least 10,000 pesos a month to survive, and add 5000 for a partner or other person in the household, and 3000 for each additional person thereafter. So a family of four would need at least 21,000 a month to survive. That money could be earned, donated by friends, family or charities, state benefits (of which there are few in the DR), stolen (in cash or equivalents such as stolen electricity) or remittances from abroad.

Anyone living on less would deteriorate physically and probably mentally as well, and die prematurely.

[Oakie]

I'm curious to know how they manage to get by with 1500 pesos "monthly" budget for food. Most chicas don't live alone, they have atleast one kid and other family members living together. So imo the 1500 would get used up very fast even on basic necessities. ............

You make good points, Remy.

Now keep in mind that we're having a discussion on food costs here on the island. I'm sure they have other needs such as toiletries, spices, electric bill, netflix, and more importantly daily transportation. So I'm still curious to learn how they can manage to get by on 1500 monthly budget.

This subject interests me too. I think the discussion started with the statement that "1200 DOP will buy groceries for a family of four for a week. ", then it went to "My Chica told me that a family could live on 1200 DOP per month" so the basic premise is contradictory.

In any event $22 dollars spent on food ifor a family of four is likely to represent only a small portion of living expenses, maybe 10 to 20%. Rent, clothing, water, electricity, phone, toiletries, laundry items, personal grooming, babysitting. Transportation, etc, take up the rest, like it does on household budgets the world over.

And most chica's you'll be meeting in SD, BC or Sosua would spend that amount and more in order to plow their trade!

[SubCmdr]

I cannot speak for StrawHat but I have always known (even though others challenged me) that 1200 DOP a week as a weekly food budget (4800 DOP a week) was enough for a Dominican family to get by on. I did not say it was enough for eating everyday in a restaurant like one of the off islanders living here for a week like a millionaire. Individuals reading my posts need to remember I actually live here. For quite a few years now. Not to many others posting regularly can say this. And not many my many detractors can actually say that either.

I personally doubt that any family can get along entirely and take care of all their household needs with just 1200 DOP a week covering all basic necessities. Nacional as others have noted is a high end supermarket. Locals shop there. Those who have more money than average and access to transportation. I shop there when I am close. You can find a lot of imported items that are more specialized. You usually do not find Nacional's located in less affluent areas. Nor do you find tennis clubs with 250,000 DOP initial memberships in less affluent area. But one exists. I ball on a budget here so I did not join.

How do they get by and cover all basic needs? There is a lot sharing that goes on. Some go without. There may be more than one income earner in the household. If a chica lives alone she may have another income source she is not disclosing to you (think: Western Union Novio). But I find it most interesting that people have chosen to concentrate on food. I also pointed out that you can get your dick sucked and fuck for 1200 DOP. So think about that! One hour of work can feed your family for a week here in Republica Dominicana. Never in my entire life of working did I every have a job that paid like that. I have had some good paying jobs in my day!

People are always telling stories here about chicas lying. A chica once met me and sucked and fucked me for 1500 DOP. She told me that she needed diapers for her child. We did the deed (fully documented in another part of the forum). I dropped her off at the pick up spot. Waited a minute and then decided that I need a few things out of the grocery store. As I was entering the store who did I see leaving. My lovely blonde hottie. She held up her bag displaying the big package of Pampers she had bought. Smiled and gave me a high five as we passed each other.

[Remy316]

OK back to the 1200 DOP monthly food budget. My Chica told me that a family could live on 1200 DOP per month but she prefers 1500 DOP. Then she asked why I would ask, I said just curious. But then I started doing some math in my proper head and realized I give her enough to buy food for the year and in return she gives me as many orgasms as this body can produce (plus one or two extra LOL) in a week. So a week of of orgasms for a year of food. Fair to me!

Now I'm on a mission to feed more beautiful Dominican Women! Hahaha.

Just finished breakfast, having a cigar on the terrace (across from the La Sirena) with zumo de naranja (OK, I used the translator for the "zumo de" but I knew the naranja part).

Strawhat.

Very interesting! I see this topic is till ongoing. Glad you're having a good time here Strawhat.

I'm curious to know how they manage to get by with 1500 pesos "monthly" budget for food. Most chicas don't live alone, they have atleast one kid and other family members living together. So imo the 1500 would get used up very fast even on basic necessities. Here's why I say that:

I've been here few times mostly for work and some fun, but I'm still a novice compared to other veterans posting on this board. I was at the Nacional supermarket last week and I did do some research just for my curiosity. Although Nacional is high end supermarket, the price of two dozen eggs was high, vegetables and bread alone was going for over 600 to 800. A big sack of rice was not available so I could not check on the price of rice and beans. And the meat section was no less then 400 to 500 for average portions of carne. Milk is only available here as pre-packaged containers with longer shelf life, they don't sell fresh milk anymore since May, and the cost of packaged milk was average, about 300 o 400 pesos for 1 L container. Now most dominicans like to drink lot of sodas and juices, I did not check prices on it but I'm sure it wasn't cheap. Lastly, I went to the hot food section and the food quality was disappointing but it cost me close to 500 for a ravioli, mixed vegetables and coke. I know I was not in the same place where the locals would shop but their prices for similar items can't be that much different wherever they may shop.

Now keep in mind that we're having a discussion on food costs here on the island. I'm sure they have other needs such as toiletries, spices, electric bill, netflix, and more importantly daily transportation. So I'm still curious to learn how they can manage to get by on 1500 monthly budget.

[StrawHat]

Well that was not the answer I expected but very appropriate. But to clear up one point I bet you have been on a sub before hahaha.

Strawhat.

I was not StrawHat. My service to my country of origin was in what would be considered civil service. But highly specialized nonetheless.

My user name was taken from two sources. Number one: According to The Making of Star Trek (p. 256), the Romulan rank of sub-commander is fully equal to a Federation Starfleet captain. Number two: In my country of origin I was big into the BDSM world. I am a command and control DOM. Which means that I prefer a submissive that wants to obey my orders without me having to resort to punishment. If a Sub wants pain as her reward, I am skilled at applying that for her. Totally consensual. I was Mr. Grey before it got trendy. But no shades of grey with me brother. LOL! So, in my local circles I was called SubCommander also.

Enjoy your shopping trip. I am interested in reading your report. It will me more interesting to me than a report on the individual sex acts you perform with your Latina hottie. After all that is par for the course in Republica Dominicana.

[StrawHat]

OK back to the 1200 DOP monthly food budget. My Chica told me that a family could live on 1200 DOP per month but she prefers 1500 DOP. Then she asked why I would ask, I said just curious. But then I started doing some math in my proper head and realized I give her enough to buy food for the year and in return she gives me as many orgasms as this body can produce (plus one or two extra LOL) in a week. So a week of of orgasms for a year of food. Fair to me!

Now I'm on a mission to feed more beautiful Dominican Women! Hahaha.

Just finished breakfast, having a cigar on the terrace (across from the La Sirena) with zumo de naranja (OK, I used the translator for the "zumo de" but I knew the naranja part).

Strawhat.

[Darelax]

Just arrived today at the airport, automatic temp scan then the random Covid testing line on the left. I stayed to the right and the person in front and behind me were pulled for the test. I definitely look like a tourist but the two pulled looked Dominican to me. I knew about the random test from this forum which started after my visit last month. I feel fine and would not have traveled if I thought I was sick but the "what if" thought was in the back of my mind.

Now I'm sitting on the hotel terrace smoking a cigar and drinking a Presidente. Tomorrow morning my Latina shows up! But the La Sirena is directly across the street so we will go look at what 1200 pesos will buy. So SubCommander were you ever on subs?

Strawhat.

Elon Musk after four PCR tests doesn't know if he have COVID. He reported that he did four tests (two came back negative and two came back positive). Same test, same clinic.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/13/w...esnt-know.html

[SubCmdr]

Now I'm sitting on the hotel terrace smoking a cigar and drinking a Presidente. Tomorrow morning my Latina shows up! But the La Sirena is directly across the street so we will go look at what 1200 pesos will buy. So SubCommander were you ever on subs?
Strawhat.

I was not StrawHat. My service to my country of origin was in what would be considered civil service. But highly specialized nonetheless.

My user name was taken from two sources. Number one: According to The Making of Star Trek (p. 256), the Romulan rank of sub-commander is fully equal to a Federation Starfleet captain. Number two: In my country of origin I was big into the BDSM world. I am a command and control DOM. Which means that I prefer a submissive that wants to obey my orders without me having to resort to punishment. If a Sub wants pain as her reward, I am skilled at applying that for her. Totally consensual. I was Mr. Grey before it got trendy. But no shades of grey with me brother. LOL! So, in my local circles I was called SubCommander also.

Enjoy your shopping trip. I am interested in reading your report. It will me more interesting to me than a report on the individual sex acts you perform with your Latina hottie. After all that is par for the course in Republica Dominicana.

[Darelax]

Now I'm sitting on the hotel terrace smoking a cigar and drinking a Presidente.

Strawhat.

You are so lucky guy! Enjoy!

[SubCmdr]

Even in the 24/7 zones the electric will go out.

It is a crying shame that on a island with solar, wind and wave energy available that the lights ever go off at all.

Most "Torres" in these zones have a planta though. I have modems, computers, routers, switches, cable box, Apple TV etc all hooked up to UPS. When power goes out, I lose lights for maybe a minute or two, but the UPS keeps me online.

For those who do not live in the "nose in the air at a angle they risk drowning in the rain" or those of who do not live in building with full plantas. We get by with inverters, generators and just toughing it out in the dark. My full sin wave inverter had a alarm that let me know the power was out. My refurbished modified sin wave inverter doesn't make a sound but you can hear the sound of the fans running when the power goes out. But, it is a beast! Of course with inverters you need batteries. Batteries need to be maintained and replaced over the years. But it is better than sitting in the dark.

Doesn't make it any more palatable that I have to build a back up system to function day to day not just in emergency situations. One of the things I hate the most about living in Republica Dominicana is the lack of basic infrastructure. I will not comment on why I feel this is. But the phrase: "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing" applies here.

[StrawHat]

Just arrived today at the airport, automatic temp scan then the random Covid testing line on the left. I stayed to the right and the person in front and behind me were pulled for the test. I definitely look like a tourist but the two pulled looked Dominican to me. I knew about the random test from this forum which started after my visit last month. I feel fine and would not have traveled if I thought I was sick but the "what if" thought was in the back of my mind.

Now I'm sitting on the hotel terrace smoking a cigar and drinking a Presidente. Tomorrow morning my Latina shows up! But the La Sirena is directly across the street so we will go look at what 1200 pesos will buy. So SubCommander were you ever on subs?

Strawhat.

[Prtyr2]

This is all very good information and thanks for sharing your personal experiences on this board.

1200 is nothing. Its just 22 dollars, barely enough for one day expense for them. I come to the capital on my business and fun trips regularly but now wanting to switch to non pros. Most of them, almost all are only interested in money compensation cause the economy and jobs have tanked so much and the chicas are so desperate now. I have seen video chats of their empty fridge from at least three random chicas. And I know its real cause everything is so messed up during the curfew last few months. Even the cops are looking to target Americans so I hope everyone stays vigilant and avoid trouble if you plan on visiting.

Back to the point, the chicas are getting desperate and agitated for money, they have to buy food, pay rent, do their fuckin hair and nails LOL, but from what I seen they don't budge on compensation requests. They're not interested in small change cause their list is too big. And the biggest problem that I hear from others is the constant pressure for requests for money transfer before the meeting which everyone should avoid and not fall in that trap. And like you said, there are others that just want to dine and wine and just be seen out there with foreigners, but either way you pay for it somehow. A lot of pussy here but it ain't going for free for sure. I'll be returning next week in the capital for three weeks this time and will provide another update soon after. My greatest disadvantage is I barely speak few sentences in Spanish and not enough to engage in conversations.

Dominican business logic is if there is less demand and less customers, raise prices. Hotels and restaurants also do it.

[Prtyr2]

It has not always been like that. Utilities were public before privatization. In the past, outages were a pain, services goes out several times a day in all the city. Now that it is private outages are zoned. People in zone A gets electricpower 24 hours a day, people where most people do not pay their bills gets 2-4 hours per day. She had a 2 yr. Old so she has the milk all the time in the freezer to keep it cold. Dominican Republic is in many ways similar to my country.

Even in the 24/7 zones the electric will go out. Often when Edesur owes the power generators. Most "Torres" in these zones have a planta though. I have modems, computers, routers, switches, cable box, Apple TV etc all hooked up to UPS. When power goes out, I lose lights for maybe a minute or two, but the UPS keeps me online. Sort of miss the old days when if power went out we would go to a bar with a generator!

[Alex Deuce]

It is a cultural thing, very common in latin countries. In Puerto Rico (my country) it is customary to offer food and or drinks to visits all the time.

I have been to all 50 states and at least two countries in every continent and have never not been offered at least a water when entering a person's home.

[MamaGuevos]

I missed the signifigence of length of time it took you to get into the panties of a girl and the quality of the girl.

Nothing allows for anyone to vouch for what a girl is doing when she is not with you. Unless you are going to put a body camera on her that she can't remove or turn off and a GPS tracker on her ankle. No one owns the pussy but her. It is always your turn. Never your pussy. LOL!

What the fuck do I know gentlemen? I only live here!

I agree.

I really do not care what my chicas do when I am not in the Dominican Republic. I just want them to be very pretty, very willing to have sex whenever and however I like it, free of disease and to give me the type of GF experience that suits my fantasy. I give them money but never negotiate on price (in fact, 99% of the time, I don't even talk about payment). If a hardcore pro behaves like a naïve non-pro and fools me, I am happy in my ignorance.

I have waited for a girl to sleep with me on the second and rarely, the third date, but after that I move on. Two years to get into her panties? This must have been love. Most of us operate on lust.