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  1. #16589
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    You were saying...

    A 48 year old Thai wife arranged to have her 63 year old Danish husband murdered in Thailand for 500,000 baht. Via an older friend it was arranged that a relative would drive into the foreigner as he rode his motorcycle by a field. But despite a serious collision that left a hole in a windshield Mr. Larsen survived with serious injuries. The plot to get 10 million baht in life insurance soon unravelled and three people are in custody.

    https://aseannow.com/topic/1258289-t...t-he-survives/
    I ain't never getting married! Just a divorce and losing my property, income, and pension is enough to keep me single, now throw in this shit, fuck that shit LOL.

  2. #16588

    First time to the are, have questions, would love some pointers

    Greetings ya'll,

    First time to Dominican Republic next week. I'm posting this same thing in a few cities I plan to visit in hopes to get some advice, questions answered, etc. , some in general others about the city, so excuse if seems redundant across forums.

    Background info: I'm from the USA, white guy (if that matters), I fly into Santiago, and will go to Santo Domingo also. I plan to visit one other place, maybe two. Whatever I can do with 2.5 weeks. Don't plan to rent a car (heard they have special tags that police target for bribes, and really, don't' want to worry, be responsible for, or think about a car) but take uber instead, they seem cheap enough there, unless there's good reason not to. New to the the are but not new to international traveling, third world countries, watching my back, etc. Know how to defend myself but prefer to have no reason to and avoid trouble / trouble areas. I speak decent Spanish, getting better but definitely not fluent. I'm not a flashy person, I know I will stick out like a sore thumb but don't plan on walking around with jewelry, a visible wallet, with my phone out, etc.

    Obviously this forum is about mongering, I am not above this and it's a good back up plan but I plan on meeting some civilian girls I've been chatting and tinder and some other apps are popping for me pretty well. Obviously that comes with sorting through working girls, gold diggers, girls wanting assistance, sugar daddy, scammers, etc. Nothing new. Is there a forum or website somewhat like this one more dedicated to meeting regular / civilian girls, traveling as a single guy, etc?

    Is there an area (s) of town where I should particularly stay? Safer, easier to find expats / western travelers, etc?

    An area (s) I definitely need to avoid?

    Do I need to worry about making sure my hotel allows guests? I plan on bringing multiple (one at a time) over, I've heard some weird or conflicting things about this. I haven't had an issue in other places I've traveled, they usually just need to bring ID to leave with front desk.

    Any local attractions I should check out? Good weekend getaway place I can take a chica I fancy? Obviously want to do some fun things besides pursue or entertain women.

    Gracias en avance.

  3. #16587
    Quote Originally Posted by MaddTraveler  [View Original Post]
    Their love isn't real. It could be if you're young or match their age range, you live there, and you know for sure they won't murder you to keep the house and car you just bought to run off with her real boyfriend. I'm not exaggerating, it happens to both men and women gringos even in a gullible and generally safe place like DR. Old 60+ gringo settled w a 20 yr GF, falls in love, she got access to all his money or has gotten enough, then her and BF kills gringo.
    You were saying...

    A 48 year old Thai wife arranged to have her 63 year old Danish husband murdered in Thailand for 500,000 baht. Via an older friend it was arranged that a relative would drive into the foreigner as he rode his motorcycle by a field. But despite a serious collision that left a hole in a windshield Mr. Larsen survived with serious injuries. The plot to get 10 million baht in life insurance soon unravelled and three people are in custody.

    https://aseannow.com/topic/1258289-t...t-he-survives/
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  4. #16586
    Quote Originally Posted by MaddTraveler  [View Original Post]
    I agree w you 100% but also agree w Grownman. Both points are legit and I always say why chose between romantic dates and sport fcking pros in casas? No need since fist you should experience both.
    !
    Cool I wasn't disagreeing with him we all on the same General point. However I will pass on that Wife experience! Whenever a Chicas tries to play my “wife” I have to cut her off the team. LOL GFE is all I need. I want to play honeymoon and not House. Treat me like your boyfriend and not your husband. I don't think I would ever buy a Maserati, but I'll rent one.
    My goal is not to spoil them. But as long as they’re keeping you happy do your thing.

  5. #16585

    Yes, landing at PC is a good option compared to SD

    Quote Originally Posted by FlagRunner77  [View Original Post]
    Ok, I have 1 question!

    Does anyone have any insight on how to get most efficiently (I. E. Inexpensively) from Punta Cana to SD? Flights are super cheap, and direct, from my US starting destination so there is significant benefit in flying there on the outbound flight. But I'm getting taxi quotes of over $100 USD. But somehow its only $30 or $40 from Sosua to SD? What gives?
    From Europe too, direct flights are much cheaper to PC than SD (maybe 300 euros less). That's why I always land at PC, and rent a car. I know renting a car became expansive now but if you have the money, it's the best option to travel around the island (PC. La Romana. Boca Chica. SD - Santiago. Sosua, end then back. Roads are very good. As said before there is also the bus Express Bavaro which is the fastest to go to SD, as it has only one stop at La Romana Casa de Campo, ASAIR. These buses are very modern and clean. Be careful on the highway! They are desert and straight, so don't drive like a rocket as they are some mobile radar controls. I had one at 140 km / h, but as I lived many years in Africa, I was able to handle the situation smoothly.

    I've been to PC 2 months ago, and I can tell you there are plenty of things to do, and a lot of chicas available for not so expansive as people say. Things have changed since few years. Very nice girls can be had for 2500-3000 for a hassle-free very good moment. Go to Corner's bar, or better: Drink Point around 11 pm, especially from Thursday to Saturday. If you are rich, you could book your first night at Tortuga Bay, one of the most exquisite hotel I know on this planet, belonging to the same group than the PC international airport. A hostess will wait for you right at the foot of the airplane, on the tarmac, and will escort you in a golf cart through the police and luggage with a VIP express treatment: in no more than 15 min, you'll be in the hotel mercedes shuttle. There is no chica in this hotel, unless you booked for one in advance. Alas, I used to go there when prices were still decent (few hundreds / night) but now it's about 1 grand / night. If you go to PC, read my recent posts on PC, and go spend the day with your sweetie at Playa Blanca, still in the same area than Tortuga Bay. There is no such atmosphere, white sand and turquoise water beach in the North. PC deserves the first few days (to rest after landing and warm up) and the last few days (with your princess), IMHO.

    Cheers!

  6. #16584

    Real Man in the Arena advice from MaddTraveler

    Quote Originally Posted by MaddTraveler  [View Original Post]
    I agree w you 100% but also agree w Grownman. Both points are legit and I always say why chose between romantic dates and sport fcking pros in casas? No need since fist you should experience both.
    Dead on point! Why should any of us limit ourselves?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaddTraveler  [View Original Post]
    Or what I actually do is I roleplay the romance. Do I need to spell it. Hell call it acting LOL. We've all played women, talk smooth games, and to me it's the same except now you're in semi-pro category and you shouldn't treat those girls romantically and truly falling in love like you do in the states. Their love isn't real. It could be if you're young or match their age range, you live there, and you know for sure they won't murder you to keep the house and car you just bought to run off with her real boyfriend. I'm not exaggerating, it happens to both men and women gringos even in a gullible and generally safe place like DR. Old 60+ gringo settled w a 20 yr GF, falls in love, she got access to all his money or has gotten enough, then her and BF kills gringo. Google those stories.
    You are batting a 1000% here. "Role-play the romance". Yes, I do the same thing. If you want GFE then you need to give BFE. Mongers forget that you are dealing with another human being. The aspects of chemistry and emotional connection apply in all situations. It is natural to feel things. But that does not mean that you have to endanger yourself in any way because of those feelings. That is how I play it with the chicas that I enjoy. Keep them at arms length. Do not let them into your business. Do not allow them to stake a claim using the laws they have available to them. That is why I have an attorney (actually more than one) and I seek council whenever I see a red flag.

    I disagree with you in one area. I believe the risks of loosing your money in a romantic relationship is greater in the United States of America than in the Dominican Republic. I've been through the courts of the United States of America and they do not treat men well. System is a bit different here in the Dominican Republic. But only if you know the laws and have a solid advocate in your corner.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaddTraveler  [View Original Post]
    So while I applaud those who bravely take those girls seriously, I also pity them. Have fun and if you want to go the romantic route, whether serious or roleplaying / fantasizing (cause that shit feels good tbh). Then just keep one eye open, that's all. I use all dating apps, and find most success with SA. That's where I meet the most classic chicas, law / medical students and ain't no pussy feels better than banging all the future young Dr / Lawyers LOL. I choose that approach mainly bc they know it's an arrangement, meaning they don't waste my time and make me wait 2-3 citas, and I also know they're not in casas screwing mult dudes daily and they prefer to go exclusive when they can. I spoil the fuck out of them, romance them, and I get everything I want. Not just full GFE I'm talking real Wife experience). If you know you know!!
    That is what I am talking about. You work it to your advantage. I personally do not see any reason to put yourself in a legal situation with a girl any place in the world where the state where they live can get involved in your affairs. Keep your eyes open. Your head on a swivel and pay attention to the red flags when you see them. By dealing with chicas who have something to loose you afford yourself a higher degree of safety than if you are involving yourself with barrio chicas that have nothing to lose.

  7. #16583

    Agreed

    Quote Originally Posted by SubCmdr  [View Original Post]
    Respect is a key element of most successful relationships. But this talk about not using dating apps in the Dominican Republic. Yeah, maybe if you have done nothing but visit and live in pueblos with girls walking the street. But this is the Santo Domingo forum. So I will challenge anyone to tell me how they roam the capital without the need for any kind of a dating app. Yes, you can make cold approaches if you have a strong command of Spanish. I enjoy day gaming in shopping centers to see what phone numbers I can pull and how things pan out. But I owe many of the highest quality meetings I have had to dating apps and referrals. I have also had some great times in casas also. But then I'm not like the casa hater that likes to remind us each month that he does not like them. LOL!
    I agree w you 100% but also agree w Grownman. Both points are legit and I always say why chose between romantic dates and sport fcking pros in casas? No need since fist you should experience both.

    Or what I actually do is I roleplay the romance. Do I need to spell it. Hell call it acting LOL. We've all played women, talk smooth games, and to me it's the same except now you're in semi-pro category and you shouldn't treat those girls romantically and truly falling in love like you do in the states. Their love isn't real. It could be if you're young or match their age range, you live there, and you know for sure they won't murder you to keep the house and car you just bought to run off with her real boyfriend. I'm not exaggerating, it happens to both men and women gringos even in a gullible and generally safe place like DR. Old 60+ gringo settled w a 20 yr GF, falls in love, she got access to all his money or has gotten enough, then her and BF kills gringo. Google those stories.

    So while I applaud those who bravely take those girls seriously, I also pity them. Have fun and if you want to go the romantic route, whether serious or roleplaying / fantasizing (cause that shit feels good tbh). Then just keep one eye open, that's all. I use all dating apps, and find most success with SA. That's where I meet the most classic chicas, law / medical students and ain't no pussy feels better than banging all the future young Dr / Lawyers LOL. I choose that approach mainly bc they know it's an arrangement, meaning they don't waste my time and make me wait 2-3 citas, and I also know they're not in casas screwing mult dudes daily and they prefer to go exclusive when they can. I spoil the fuck out of them, romance them, and I get everything I want. Not just full GFE I'm talking real Wife experience). If you know you know!!

  8. #16582

    Repect

    Quote Originally Posted by GrownMan1  [View Original Post]
    So can you can imagine my predicament. I love the least because I'm not looking for love. And I have the money. So many times I see guys fall victim because they are looking for love. I have a few friends that have Dominican girlfriends. It's not love that keeps them together but respect. The establishment starts at day one.
    Respect is a key element of most successful relationships. But this talk about not using dating apps in the Dominican Republic. Yeah, maybe if you have done nothing but visit and live in pueblos with girls walking the street. But this is the Santo Domingo forum. So I will challenge anyone to tell me how they roam the capital without the need for any kind of a dating app. Yes, you can make cold approaches if you have a strong command of Spanish. I enjoy day gaming in shopping centers to see what phone numbers I can pull and how things pan out. But I owe many of the highest quality meetings I have had to dating apps and referrals. I have also had some great times in casas also. But then I'm not like the casa hater that likes to remind us each month that he does not like them. LOL!

  9. #16581
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    The one who loves the least may not be the one with the money.
    So can you can imagine my predicament. I love the least because I'm not looking for love. And I have the money. So many times I see guys fall victim because they are looking for love. I have a few friends that have Dominican girlfriends. It's not love that keeps them together but respect. The establishment starts at day one.

  10. #16580
    Quote Originally Posted by NeilGeorge  [View Original Post]
    The one who loves the least has all the control.
    The one who loves the least may not be the one with the money.

  11. #16579
    Quote Originally Posted by NeilGeorge  [View Original Post]
    The one who loves the least has all the control.
    That, and the money.

    Some good advice from the OPs here.

    But the best laid plans.

    Puta's (and that's what we're talking about here) are notoriously unreliable. And so are mongers.

    A guy wants to make sure he 's got everything lined up for his precious vacation. He can spend weeks, even month's, as Grownman says, lining up his pussy contingencies.

    Problem is, if he's new to the scene, he gets here, and especially if it's high season, or the weekend, he can be overwhelmed by the choices to be had in the bars, on the beaches, where everybody is smiling at him. Real iive easy pickings. Just what he's looking for.

    He get's all relaxed, and maybe falls in lust his first night, like I did.

    Suddenly the thought of bringing up that chica, who he's never met, from some town 5 hours away, doesn't seem like a good deal anymore. She might not be compatible, may be late, bring her GF, mother and waste your precious time.

    Out of "obligation" to the pre-arranged deal he may go through with it, but a lot of mongers follow their dick the easy way, and decide to take the bird in hand, over the bird in the Bush. It's a business after all.

    This can lead to problems for the puta who has put in a little time and money herself, to get herself ready for a couple of days vacation. Hair, clothes, babysitting, the usual. And problems for the guy.

    I have never used a dating site in 13 years, no need to in the DR.

    My advice to the newbie, is to come in, check the scene, then make your deals.

    But if you plan to arrive in the summer low season doldrums, dating apps might make more sense.

    As usual, IMHO, and YMMV.

  12. #16578

    What's love got to do got do with it?

    "It's physical. Only logical. You must try to ignore that it means more than that. Oh-oh, what's love got to do, got to do with it?" - Tina Turner.

    "Don't get upset girl, that's how it goes. I don't love you hoes, I'm out the door." - Author: Snoop Dogg.

    Quote Originally Posted by NeilGeorge  [View Original Post]
    The one who loves the least has all the control.

  13. #16577
    Quote Originally Posted by GrownMan1  [View Original Post]
    A beginning relationship is all about control. If you start out dancing to her music she's the DJ. You're just a dancer.
    The one who loves the least has all the control.

  14. #16576
    Quote Originally Posted by SubCmdr  [View Original Post]
    Growman,


    But I guess if I had to give some advice it would be: 1. Make the contact. 2. Take them off Tinder to whatsapp. 3. Tell them what you want in whatsapp .4. Arrange a meeting. For the uninitiated that requires your ass to be here (Boots on the ground). 5. See what happens.

    What you know about rolling down in the deep?
    All five points are on point. To add my man; we have all been there. First vacation out the matrix and you are a little excited. Here in the US we prepare for upcoming events ahead of time. In the DR things are a little different. Chicas do not want to hear you're coming to the country next year. Or you may be willing to meet them six months from now.
    If you're going to use a dating app I suggest a month or two prior to you leaving. Whether she's a prostitute or looking for a serious relationship she needs money. You're talking that far in advance will only increase your chances of her RFM. Trust me it will come continuously. After investing so many hours and days getting to know her you almost feel obligated to help her out. That is the catch!

    Most chicas will say they're looking for a serious relationship. Who wants to be viewed as a puta besides a puta that doesn't care. My suggestion to you is continued your search to be straight up. " Estoy buscando Para Amiga con derecho". I'm looking for friends with benefits. That should be your opening line unless you're looking for something serious. Only the ones that respect you being straight up will respond. This would cut out a lot of bullshit.

    I also add that you should stick to your guns on what you want. Don't let a chica that you think is so attractive but looking for a serious relationship and you are not take up your time. Your vacation time is precious. You don't want to spend your vacation time on dates dating a chica hoping to get some ass. Find the Chica that knows what's up that way you will have perfect understanding.

    A beginning relationship is all about control. If you start out dancing to her music she's the DJ. You're just a dancer.

  15. #16575

    Boots on the Ground

    Quote Originally Posted by True21  [View Original Post]
    Hello,

    I am new to the forum. I have been on the sister forum for a while now but recently decided to think about venturing out of the US. I was RTFF and saw that several people were talking about meeting girls on dating apps. I created an account and started swiping just to see what was out there because I am planning a trip for later this year. I have matched and messaged with quite a few different women and it doesn't seem like any of them are interested in meeting up the way that we are looking for. In fact most of them are acting like they are looking for something more serious. Is this the norm? Are they just putting up a front to not be as obvious? Are they looking for a serious relationship as a ticket to the US? I'm just looking for some insight from some of you on here with a little more experience.

    Thank you.
    Growman,

    I don't even know what to tell this guy. It is like trying to teach a baby how to walk. Some things you just need to learn for yourself. I know you are not an online guy. But I am. Have been ever since I moved onto the island. After I got here, I made my share of in person contacts. But my initial start was on line (Dominican Cupid to be exact). And I still see two of my initial three girls I started with from there.

    But I guess if I had to give some advice it would be: 1. Make the contact. 2. Take them off Tinder to whatsapp. 3. Tell them what you want in whatsapp .4. Arrange a meeting. For the uninitiated that requires your ass to be here (Boots on the ground). 5. See what happens.

    What you know about rolling down in the deep?

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