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  1. #16707

    Context matters

    I kind of regret going down this rabbit hole because as you said to the average weekend to week warrior who maybe sneaks a few trips a year none of this matters.

    I guess if there were massive interest a subforum could be made to discuss this, but to the vast majority the point is moot. I spent a year in the DR and spent over a year in Colombia. It might be interesting to some that two different plugs are delievering two different girls today but again I've been where I am for over a year.

    Trip.

  2. #16706

    Nahhh.

    Quote Originally Posted by TripleDarknes  [View Original Post]
    Like Mr. E says a hooker is what a hooker does, If she accepts money for sex non pro semi or hardcore she is hoe.

    The only difference between a hardcore and a semi is that a Hardcore gets entitled and ran through. The funny thing about hoes is the more dick they take the less they want to do. If it's a hoes first time for money generally she'll let you plow every hole in her body but when she knows better she does better. In fact I knew a girl who sold pussy on the side who's cousin got in the game with a dude who tried to pimp her. Her first client came in and promptly stuck his dick up her ass. Her cousin who hoe'd part time told her that anal was optional and cost way more money she then called me to retrain her. After she told me the anal story I should've fucked her in the ass.

    But I digress my point is unless a girl is specifically instructed on what to do how to handle a client and how much to charge a girl's first client has extreme leverage over her. But other than that she's the same girl and every Hard core started out as a lovely innocent little flower.

    If this keeps up I might need a Trip's giude to semi pros subforum.

    Hope this helps.

    Trip.
    This topic brings the most discussions because of one main confusion. You wrote "accepts money" and then you wrote "non non pro semi or hardcore" and that's where you're wrong.

    I agree with everything you said except that the definition of a "non pro" is someone who DOES NOT accept money so how is she a "Hoe" as you put it? Maybe in the general definition / context that all women are culpable of manipulating men, always about money incl a girlfriend or wife, I get that. But when talking about actual sex worker, fellas no one can argue that every single woman in the world will have sex for money. The majority will not and they do not.

    In fact even in most active countries where prostitution is legal like DR have their majority of women being non-sex workers. Remember DR incl most Latin american countries are super super religious, and Public records suggest DR has 3. 5 Million to maybe 4 Million women, and about 100,000 sex workers, that's only about 2%, or may be 5% for those who does it on the low (This is FACTUAL DATA). So come on, real non-pros do exist, I have met them, dated them, etc. No sex for money, period.

    The only problem discussing those in these types of forum is that most dudes that ask about them or who writes about them aren't all realistic in their expectations. We all know most us here don't live in the DR, most of us go there for a week or maybe two. So it's not enough time to build a relationship with a non-pro, even if you chat online first, if she's willing to talk to you and court you instead of her handsome local guys she's 99% not a real non-pro. You all think a normal non pro college girl in any country, with a bright future, normal parent, living in a normal neighborhood in her early 20's will actually date some of y'all old ass in your 50's and 60's, and then you come here and complain when she wanted money LOL or your date didn't go well?

    The real non-pros will not touch most of us truth being told. unless, I repeat unless you're close to her age range, you live there or go there often, speak the language, and she's truly physically attracted to you. No different than normal women in the US. Anything else is either about money, about keeping you as a friend or fck buddy in hope you fall for her, get her preggo, maybe a green card one day, maybe marry her, become her sd / SU pappy, her ATM, etc.

    Note that I mentioned "normal" because poverty obviously quickly turns many of those normal ones into hookies, to agree w your point above you could be her first, etc. My point is mainly about those who are able to sustain themselves financially enough, eat well, drive cars, live w parents or themselves, university grads, going in politics, celebs, our dumb asses will never see those unless we live there and meet their dating criterias, they don't need our dollars or for us to save them.

    Happy Hunting.

  3. #16705

    The name of the game is the same.

    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    You guys are way ahead of me. I have been concentrating on numbers rather than quality and semis and nons are so time consuming.
    Like Mr. E says a hooker is what a hooker does, If she accepts money for sex non pro semi or hardcore SHE IS A HOE.

    The only difference between a hardcore and a semi is that a Hardcore gets entitled and ran through. The funny thing about hoes is the more dick they take the less they want to do. If it's a hoes first time for money generally she'll let you plow every hole in her body but when she knows better she does better. In fact I knew a girl who sold pussy on the side who's cousin got in the game with a dude who tried to pimp her. Her first client came in and promptly stuck his dick up her ass. Her cousin who hoe'd part time told her that anal was optional and cost way more money she then called me to retrain her. After she told me the anal story I should've fucked her in the ass.

    But I digress my point is unless a girl is specifically instructed on what to do how to handle a client and how much to charge a girl's first client has extreme leverage over her. But other than that she's the same girl and every Hard core started out as a lovely innocent little flower.

    If this keeps up I might need a Trip's giude to semi pros subforum.

    Hope this helps.

    Trip.

  4. #16704

    Must be the Money

    Quote Originally Posted by GrownMan1  [View Original Post]
    The only plug you introduced me to. You have no problem hitting the help in the massage parlor. I saw the way she tried to protect you and your actions in the room. She really likes you.
    Either that or she likes the money I've given her.

  5. #16703
    Quote Originally Posted by TripleDarknes  [View Original Post]
    Which plug are you talking about? The one you met No can do.
    The only plug you introduced me to. You have no problem hitting the help in the massage parlor. I saw the way she tried to protect you and your actions in the room. She really likes you.

  6. #16702

    Going down the monger rabbit hole

    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    You guys are way ahead of me. I have been concentrating on numbers rather than quality and I suppose one can get better quality with semi and non-pros than with the working girls. The problem is semis and nons are so time consuming.
    I think some dudes get so used to dealing with hardcores that they forget that they are women and not robots.

    I could go into a deep dive about why hookers tend to use Pimps but the short version is Hoes aren't robots and they need someone to tell them to go out and get clients. If left to her own devices most hardcores unless she's a streetwalker literally fucking to eat that day or a drug addict only looks for clients when she asolutely has to.

    In short there's no difference between Hardcores and semi's in that regard. The only real difference is when Hoes are on the prowl they'll let you know wheras the semi will give you a hint.

    But again I'm getting ahead of myself here. I fuck semi's and nonpro's becuase that's what I'used to and it keeps me safe. I just considered getting a portable safe because I don't hide my money or valuables at all. It never really occured to me to do so because If I'm fucking a nurse or a waitress I know where they work so it generally wouldn't make sense for her to steal a few bucks from me. Most nonpros don't use condoms so they don't really question it, They literally say "presertivo?" and I say "I can't use them" and they say ÖK' At this point I don't bother to ask for CIP I'll just say I'm coming and the chica just keeps fucking so I let it go. I'm not suggesting that people do what I do but if you raw dogg you should know who you're sleeping with.

    To the average traveling monger It's probably better to just go to a Casa but if you use Dating apps the girl could be a semi or a hardcore you'll never know and it doesn't really matter. It's not neccesarily more time consuming to fuck semi's the only time consuming part is developing the monger eye and learning womanese meaning learning to know when I lady is offering sex.

    Protip Do you talk to tourists in your town for more than 5 seconds especially ones who barely speak your language? No well why would a Dominican say anything to you unless they were thinking they could get something out of it? Dominicans know exactly what you're there for and if they didn't want anything from you they'd steer clear. If they're being overly nice to you there's a reason for that. You hold a 5 minute convseration with most dominicans man or woman and they'd usually be willing to get a tip to tip you off to some pussy.

    Hope this Helps.

    Trip.

  7. #16701

    I stay focused on the numbers and performance also

    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    You guys are way ahead of me. I have been concentrating on numbers rather than quality and I suppose one can get better quality with semi and non-pros than with the working girls. The problem is semis and nons are so time consuming.
    You are correct about both the quality and the time element. But you can fuck both semi and non-pros for the same money as you you would pay a pro. That is the thing that makes the time investment in the the semi's and non-pros worth it to me. Better quality same price. To me that makes for a better value.

    Not to say that time is not money. It most certainly is. But I do not have a wheels up clock ticking.

  8. #16700

    Semi-pros and Non-pros

    You guys are way ahead of me. I have been concentrating on numbers rather than quality and I suppose one can get better quality with semi and non-pros than with the working girls. The problem is semis and nons are so time consuming.

  9. #16699
    Quote Originally Posted by GrownMan1  [View Original Post]
    Exactly that's why I said you should have sex with the plug. In behalf of all of us who she has hooked up. Trip I need you to take one for the team! Don't worry I will pay for it just do not give me the details.
    Which plug are you talking about? The one you met No can do.

  10. #16698
    Quote Originally Posted by TripleDarknes  [View Original Post]
    You want to fuck the plug (unless she's unattractive and most women know if there ugly) Women are emotional, Even if they make way more money sending you dozens of chicas they will feel a way if you never fuck them.

    Trip.
    Exactly that's why I said you should have sex with the plug. In behalf of all of us who she has hooked up. Trip I need you to take one for the team! Don't worry I will pay for it just do not give me the details.

  11. #16697

    Non pros good and bad

    Non pros come with complications. They want to be your girlfriend and that gets old fast. I like the semi pros they know what you want and are happy with some quick cash. Quite a few girls quit Sosua but maintain there sex skills. Some of my best girls use to sling it in Sosua lice in SD but have retired from the life. I am liking the 30 plus girls these days. In most cases the sex is outstanding and they tend not to be as greedy. Sosua is where I do my sport fucking. Every now and then you need a 19 year old and Sosua has them in droves. I have so many solid performers it is hard to break in new girls. Never the less in 4 weeks I will doing my best to find a few good chicas.

  12. #16696

    Plug the Plug

    Quote Originally Posted by Durandpaul  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the insight Triple. For some reasons in DR I always run into a plug who wants to fuck too instead of getting a cut. I usually come to DR every 3 months for like 4 to 5 days. Once I get a plug or bigger network in santo domingo, then sosua will be my second option in DR.
    You want to fuck the plug (unless she's unattractive and most women know if there ugly) Women are emotional, Even if they make way more money sending you dozens of chicas they will feel a way if you never fuck them. And like I said since I fuck raw occasionally unloading my entire DNA sequence in the deepest darkest netherregions of her ass keeps her from sending me a chica who every one in the barrio knows got the clap.

    And if a chick is too ugly to fuck you need to give her plenty of non sexual jobs to do.

    Hope this Helps.

    Trip.

  13. #16695
    Quote Originally Posted by TripleDarknes  [View Original Post]

    I'm not saying that you should give them more than 1500 to 2000 per nut an extra 1500 plus food and paying around 300 pesos and hour for non sexual services like showing you around cooking cleaning in home mani pedis etc. Will go a long way. It's always better to be the anonymous gringo and tip a girl to bring you more girls etc. In fact in a regular neighborhood it can get bad with you running through mothers and daughters sisters and cousins. The best thing you can do in that situation is to either go away for awhile (if you live or stay in the DR) and or send them to your gringo friends.

    But I'm getting ahead of myself here If you come a couple times a year for a week or less then you'll probably stop at fucking two or three of the nail techs because you won't be around enough to fuck the majority of the neighborhood. This only works if you live in the place that your fucking girls. Today I fucked a repeat and I was annoyed she was very good but at this point I don't like to fuck a girl more than a couple of times a year, but I'm saying this with over a year boots on ground in Cali.

    It's a lifestyle.

    Hope this Helps.

    Trip.
    Thanks for the insight Triple. For some reasons in DR I always run into a plug who wants to fuck too instead of getting a cut. I usually come to DR every 3 months for like 4 to 5 days. Once I get a plug or bigger network in santo domingo, then sosua will be my second option in DR.

  14. #16694

    The Sky is the limit

    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    That's amazing! What about the girls who entered the shops to get their nails did?

    You've got me thinking that perhaps I focus too much on working girls. In my next visit to the DR I'm going to check out these salons.
    I personally never thought about going to a salon because I don't get mani pedis and facials (even though I may start just to look more presentable) But absolutely.

    Like I said in a Post on how I got started in Mongering. I fucked single mothers who happened to be at home in the daytime. I was mongering for years before I fucked a professional sex worker who earned her money by fucking exclusively. I learned quite quickly that a lot if not most women fuck occasionally if they needed money at that moment and she trusted you to pay her. Most women have at the very least sucked somebody's dick either to get out of a jam or to get some money and I'm talking about the gynocentric west. Ask any Tow Truck driver If a Tow trucker driver has a contract to remove vehicles from say an apartment complex, I'd assume that he took the job because he's horny because any Tow truck driver will tell you that women will offer to fuck not not have their car towed away.

    Take the example of Durandpaul being in the salon and being accussed of being a sex tourist That was projection they weren't accusing they were asking. I would've said "Hey I come to the DR several times a year and I learned that the DR is a romantic place it's better with a companion, I used to think that the DR was freaky but I understand a woman meeting a gringo and he invited her to a restaurant where he spent 40 dollars on meals and drinks amd her baby is at home hungry or needs medicine that 40 dollars could feed her for a week. I don't fault a woman who would tell a Man to give her the 40 bucks" You say that to almost any woman in the states of the DR and they'll agree with that because that's how women really think and I'm talking about women with good jobs even if they would never do it they wouldn't judge another women for doing it.

    Like I said giving a woman a tip for asking a woman gives her an out because she's not fucking you for money she's just helping you and her friends who need money out. Once word gets back to her that the women she sent you made some money and had a good time she's going to think "why not me" and she'll offer herself to you as well. I've said on this board that I don't use condoms and at this point unless a woman tells me not to I'll just say Ï'm coming and unless she doesn't object I'll cum in pussy. Actual sex workers are the only ones who insist on condoms as we can see with the single mother rate most women actually fuck without condoms so a non pro doesn't have the same objections that a sex worker has. I was told by a friend that I fuck "for free" (I pay for meals) that despite regularly cumming in women not one woman overseas as ever tried to accused me of getting them pregnant. My friend told me Most women just take a plan be pill.

    I've also never had any STD either Veternarians use tracabilty to stop animal outbreaks I do the same. I don't fuck street meat or any actual sex workers at this point but If I caught an STD a quick look through my phone would tell me all of the potential culprits I would just cal all of the women who send me pussy through the big butt delivery service / aka snappy nappy rappi and tell them I'm sick and that every women they sent me should get tested. That's also why I fuck the procurer / Plug or her relatives and close friends because they'd be reluctant to send me a chica they know is sick if they or someone they care about will get a blast from my Yougurt Gun.

    The only downside is that you need to pass off the girls into a network the main reason most women aren't working girls is because of the stigma attached if ther friends and family find out and because if you give a girl 20 to 40 dollars (I almos never pay more no matter what country I'm in) that will help her out in the now but it's not worth fucking someone one time unless she really needed the money to do it one time so you tave to convince the girl that you would either see her regularly or that if she needed a similar amount of money in future that she can get it from you. That's the real selling point, not some horny tourist on his first trip to the DR but for the expat or halpat or someone who came to the same country for people to remember who you are. If a waitress knows your favorite drink then she's a good candidate to fuck. Obviously you'd have to be a millonaire to be there for even ten women so generally I don't fuck the same woman more than twice a year I pass them off to other mongers. That's the main reason I bother to post on this board to pass the pussy, You can change a woman's life if you could give her 5 or 6 ducdes that she can call up to make a quick 30 bucks from. She won't get rich but she will be able to supplement her income. I promise you that the majority of women who work in Zona Colonial have a personal gringo network it's just that you're not in it. In fact the main reason why someone who stays in the Zone doesn't fuck waitresses is because they know not to shit where they eat if you stayed in say Naco they would come.

    Generally speaking If I see her more than twice a year she's doing more for less more non sexual work or offering anal or a threesome with a friend or relative, but even I have a limit I'll just suggest a relative if she sends her sister to me I'll fuck her if she's down to do a threesome with her sister That almost never turns out the way I want it but I'm not turning it down.

    Hope this long ass book helps.

    Trip.

  15. #16693
    Quote Originally Posted by TripleDarknes  [View Original Post]
    ....I must have fucked easily 100 manicurists in Santo Domingo alone during the Pandemic......
    That's amazing! What about the girls who entered the shops to get their nails did?

    You've got me thinking that perhaps I focus too much on working girls. In my next visit to the DR I'm going to check out these salons.

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