Santo Domingo

[Remy316]

I ate a steak last night, drank too much wine or just enough I don't remember. Woke up drank a lot of water, then coffee. Sent Chica #2 home, packed and headed to the airport. So I asked my driver who I've used for my three trips what the average monthly spend for food, just food. He thought about it and said 15,000 DOP per month. He said the problem with food prices is that they keep going up. He said staple food products have been increasing in price this year. So, I'm at my gate, ready to go home to rest & recuperate. This may be my last post on food because when I ask I get answers all over the place. My Chica #1 only speaks a little English so perhaps she did not completely understand my question (she answered 1200/ month yes but 1500/ month better). However my next trip I hope to rent a place for the week instead of the hotel. Then I will buy food and cook with my Chica #1 and find out first hand. Bye Santo Domingo till next trip.

Strawhat.

Glad you had a good time Strawhat. I wonder if crossed paths today at the airport LOL. I noticed few other solo travelers at the airport returning home but not many unlike the pre-COVID days.

Thus far my two week experience this time has been pleasant, not so great but not so bad either. Mostly due to the ever changing situation in the world nowadays. Some of the chicas were not very forthcoming due to personal reasons this time. I was also multitasking with my work so I did not put enormous effort in meeting lot of women either.

Strawhat, your chica #1 sounds very similar to my date that skipped on me two weeks ago. She's also living with her mother and sister but I don't think she had any entrepreneur desires in her. She's a nursing student, it would be a coincidence if that was the same chic that you got LOL.

Chica #2 showed me a good time, had couple of dates with her, even introduced me to her bro and her friends. And then she got mad cause I refused to give in to her outrageous demands. So that story ended on bittersweet note. This one also has a 10 year visa but I don't think she'll be coming here to stay any time soon for the lack of funds and a gracious sponsor for her to come and live here the way she wants to enjoy it.

Chica #3 got her at the shopping center and introduced by a bilingual friend. She was a semi pro and not making enough from her day job. This one was quite and lot of fun so I took care of her graciously to keep my place when I return in the future.

A couple of notes from my observation: Nov was very different than July-Aug. The curfew is still there but it has been extended into the late evening hours. There are very loose restrictions now compared to few months ago. All businesses are open as usual. I guess the new president is worried about his country slipping farther down during these uncertain economic times. A lot more people had gotten lay offs or lost their jobs permanently. So many people have fallen behind on their rent payments by few months. Basic costs are increasing at all levels and the gap between rich and poor is also widening here in the capital. But the most unusual and alarming thing that I noticed is that people here are out in public in large numbers during the day. They wear the masks but the logic here is as if the mask will prevent them from getting infected at all costs. I went to the club section in Piantini last Sunday, went to an outdoor club 'Maria' during the day. This place was packed with over 500 young people in mid twenties, all of them in big crowds with bottle service at each table and no face masks at all. No restrictions at the other bar / lounges either. It reminded me of what we hear about the beach parties in Florida that were in the news during this summer. If the health officials don't take things seriously in the DR, this could be another hot zone that could rise at any time. If anyone wants to get in on the action, they should go soon before the lockdowns go in effect next year and take full precautions for yourself while you're down here. Overall, it is still a good place to go for the short timers, but is changing just like everywhere else in the world. Now onto my next adventure to Columbia in Dec with friends, never been there so very excited to see what all the fuss is about.

[StrawHat]

I ate a steak last night, drank too much wine or just enough I don't remember. Woke up drank a lot of water, then coffee. Sent Chica #2 home, packed and headed to the airport. So I asked my driver who I've used for my three trips what the average monthly spend for food, just food. He thought about it and said 15,000 DOP per month. He said the problem with food prices is that they keep going up. He said staple food products have been increasing in price this year. So, I'm at my gate, ready to go home to rest & recuperate. This may be my last post on food because when I ask I get answers all over the place. My Chica #1 only speaks a little English so perhaps she did not completely understand my question (she answered 1200/ month yes but 1500/ month better). However my next trip I hope to rent a place for the week instead of the hotel. Then I will buy food and cook with my Chica #1 and find out first hand. Bye Santo Domingo till next trip.

Strawhat.

I have been dirt poor in my life not that I'm rich now but I'm ok. In my dirt poor days we ate rice, beans and odd pieces of pork to season the food. We ate greens and green beans so I know what living on the cheap is like. This morning I went to La Sirena to buy some supplies (Chica #2 arrives this morning) and I looked around for food prices. A 10 lb bank of rice was 350 DOP and beans were cheap. The had ham hocks & knuckles on the cheap side of the meat market.

So I posed the question to Chica #2 and she spends 5000 DOP per month on just personal products, she estimates her parents spend about 10,000 DOP per month for food. I presume her family does OK money wise.

My Chica #1 (sent home this morning) is dirt poor but she is industrious and hard working. She will be successful in life because of her situation and drive. She told me this our 3rd meeting that she started making and selling candy out of her home (she lives with her mother and sister) using the money I've given her. And hopes to open a small mart in the future. She never asks me for extras but I give her extras due to her effort. She does not spend her money on many personal items. She has a plan it seems..

[Darelax]

Now take look at the receipt below from Bravo and tell me how much was spent on groceries.

Easy. 480.00.

[SubCmdr]

May be easier to ask, but the information provided is like that old saying coding saying: GIGO (garbage in; garbage out). Does not give you any real idea of how much someone is actually spending on food. Groceries: How was it defined? No controls or definitions on the quick and dirty survey that was posted. Interesting, but non definitive.

Been in a modern grocery store lately in the Dominican Republic? They sell everything from vegetables, personal care items, alcohol, paper items, soap and cleaning supplies. Asking someone how much they spend on groceries and in return they tell you how much they spend at the grocery store gives you no better idea of what someone is spending on food unless you look at the receipt.

Comestibles, Congelados, Embutidos, Higiene and Salud, Lactedos, No Comestibles, Otras Carnes, Vegetales.

Now take look at the receipt below from Bravo and tell me how much was spent on groceries.

But what the fuck do I know? I just live here!

[StrawHat]

I have been dirt poor in my life not that I'm rich now but I'm ok. In my dirt poor days we ate rice, beans and odd pieces of pork to season the food. We ate greens and green beans so I know what living on the cheap is like. This morning I went to La Sirena to buy some supplies (Chica #2 arrives this morning) and I looked around for food prices. A 10 lb bank of rice was 350 DOP and beans were cheap. The had ham hocks & knuckles on the cheap side of the meat market.

So I posed the question to Chica #2 and she spends 5000 DOP per month on just personal products, she estimates her parents spend about 10,000 DOP per month for food. I presume her family does OK money wise.

My Chica #1 (sent home this morning) is dirt poor but she is industrious and hard working. She will be successful in life because of her situation and drive. She told me this our 3rd meeting that she started making and selling candy out of her home (she lives with her mother and sister) using the money I've given her. And hopes to open a small mart in the future. She never asks me for extras but I give her extras due to her effort. She does not spend her money on many personal items. She has a plan it seems.

Now I like both Chicas but Chica #1 has earned my upmost respect for her industrious nature. People can sometimes lift themselves out of poverty, hard as it may be those with drive and grit find a way. I see a lot of grit and drive in the Dominican people with whom I interact during my 3 brief visits to the DR. Waiters, cleaning ladies, drivers.

I see the sense of entitlement in some of the younger generations back in the USA. I say younger generations because I'm an old fuck LOL. Most immigrants I see in the USA work there ass off in search of a better life. Venezuelans, Cubans, Brazilians, Colombians, etc.

The more I see of this country (DR) the more I like it!

Now I go back to the room for some more relaxation.

Strawhat.

Very interesting! I see this topic is till ongoing. Glad you're having a good time here Strawhat.

I'm curious to know how they manage to get by with 1500 pesos "monthly" budget for food. Most chicas don't live alone, they have atleast one kid and other family members living together. So imo the 1500 would get used up very fast even on basic necessities. Here's why I say that:

I've been here few times mostly for work and some fun, but I'm still a novice compared to other veterans posting on this board. I was at the Nacional supermarket last week and I did do some research just for my curiosity. Although Nacional is high end supermarket, the price of two dozen eggs was high, vegetables and bread alone was going for over 600 to 800. A big sack of rice was not available so I could not check on the price of rice and beans. And the meat section was no less then 400 to 500 for average portions of carne. Milk is only available here as pre-packaged containers with longer shelf life, they don't sell fresh milk anymore since May, and the cost of packaged milk was average, about 300 o 400 pesos for 1 L container. Now most dominicans like to drink lot of sodas and juices, I did not check prices on it but I'm sure it wasn't cheap. Lastly, I went to the hot food section and the food quality was disappointing but it cost me close to 500 for a ravioli, mixed vegetables and coke. I know I was not in the same place where the locals would shop but their prices for similar items can't be that much different wherever they may shop.

Now keep in mind that we're having a discussion on food costs here on the island. I'm sure they have other needs such as toiletries, spices, electric bill, netflix, and more importantly daily transportation. So I'm still curious to learn how they can manage to get by on 1500 monthly budget.

[BoricuaOnline]

Easier to just ask as I did several people. This is how much they said they spend on groceries per month.

I have asked the same in the past, getting similar number $. You have to add to the equation that, like in my country, colmadones also sell on account so you can get food and pay later. According to WU in 2018 Dominican Republic ranked 9th in money transfer received. Although I find most produce cheap, it has been cheaper in the past. For example, since my first visit in 1998 and for a decade a pound of coffee cost the equivalent of $2, now it cost the double. Avocados, plantain, the cost was the equivalent of 5 cents of a dollar in street markets. Now they cost more since they are very popular export items.

[Mr Enternational]

I'm curious to know how they manage to get by with 1500 pesos "monthly" budget for food. Most chicas don't live alone, they have atleast one kid and other family members living together. So imo the 1500 would get used up very fast even on basic necessities.

Easier to just ask as I did several people. This is how much they said they spend on groceries per month.

Exgirlfriend in Salcedo that I have never given 1 peso to 1 daughter and mom: Entre 16.000 y 18.000 por mes.

Random broad #1: En un mes mas o menos de 25 mil pesos.

Random broad #2: Son como 200 dolar.

Random broad #3 1 son: Slo comida ms oh menos, boy al sper mercdos 2 veces al mes, 15, mil pesos ms oh menos

Chick in San Cristobal 1 daughter: Gasto como 130 dolar algo asi por que la pregunta?

Police chick in Santiago 3 sons: Al rededor de 15,000 a que viene esa pregunta.

Newly college graduate 1 son: Ahora la comida est cara aqu, estoy gastando 10,000 por mes

Lawyer Santo Domingo East 1 son: Casi 10,000 pesos mensual.

Doctor chick in Moca no kids parents: Se gasta 15 mil pesos dos veces al mes

[Charles Pooter]

Now keep in mind that we're having a discussion on food costs here on the island. I'm sure they have other needs such as toiletries, spices, electric bill, netflix, and more importantly daily transportation. So I'm still curious to learn how they can manage to get by on 1500 monthly budget.

I would hardly class Netflix as a family necessity. "Toiletries" sounds a bit posh, unless you mean cleaning materials, laundry and personal hygiene requirements. "Spices" is another odd suggestion. Surely they would be included in "food costs"?

I would estimate a single person needs at least 10,000 pesos a month to survive, and add 5000 for a partner or other person in the household, and 3000 for each additional person thereafter. So a family of four would need at least 21,000 a month to survive. That money could be earned, donated by friends, family or charities, state benefits (of which there are few in the DR), stolen (in cash or equivalents such as stolen electricity) or remittances from abroad.

Anyone living on less would deteriorate physically and probably mentally as well, and die prematurely.

[Oakie]

I'm curious to know how they manage to get by with 1500 pesos "monthly" budget for food. Most chicas don't live alone, they have atleast one kid and other family members living together. So imo the 1500 would get used up very fast even on basic necessities. ............

You make good points, Remy.

Now keep in mind that we're having a discussion on food costs here on the island. I'm sure they have other needs such as toiletries, spices, electric bill, netflix, and more importantly daily transportation. So I'm still curious to learn how they can manage to get by on 1500 monthly budget.

This subject interests me too. I think the discussion started with the statement that "1200 DOP will buy groceries for a family of four for a week. ", then it went to "My Chica told me that a family could live on 1200 DOP per month" so the basic premise is contradictory.

In any event $22 dollars spent on food ifor a family of four is likely to represent only a small portion of living expenses, maybe 10 to 20%. Rent, clothing, water, electricity, phone, toiletries, laundry items, personal grooming, babysitting. Transportation, etc, take up the rest, like it does on household budgets the world over.

And most chica's you'll be meeting in SD, BC or Sosua would spend that amount and more in order to plow their trade!

[SubCmdr]

I cannot speak for StrawHat but I have always known (even though others challenged me) that 1200 DOP a week as a weekly food budget (4800 DOP a week) was enough for a Dominican family to get by on. I did not say it was enough for eating everyday in a restaurant like one of the off islanders living here for a week like a millionaire. Individuals reading my posts need to remember I actually live here. For quite a few years now. Not to many others posting regularly can say this. And not many my many detractors can actually say that either.

I personally doubt that any family can get along entirely and take care of all their household needs with just 1200 DOP a week covering all basic necessities. Nacional as others have noted is a high end supermarket. Locals shop there. Those who have more money than average and access to transportation. I shop there when I am close. You can find a lot of imported items that are more specialized. You usually do not find Nacional's located in less affluent areas. Nor do you find tennis clubs with 250,000 DOP initial memberships in less affluent area. But one exists. I ball on a budget here so I did not join.

How do they get by and cover all basic needs? There is a lot sharing that goes on. Some go without. There may be more than one income earner in the household. If a chica lives alone she may have another income source she is not disclosing to you (think: Western Union Novio). But I find it most interesting that people have chosen to concentrate on food. I also pointed out that you can get your dick sucked and fuck for 1200 DOP. So think about that! One hour of work can feed your family for a week here in Republica Dominicana. Never in my entire life of working did I every have a job that paid like that. I have had some good paying jobs in my day!

People are always telling stories here about chicas lying. A chica once met me and sucked and fucked me for 1500 DOP. She told me that she needed diapers for her child. We did the deed (fully documented in another part of the forum). I dropped her off at the pick up spot. Waited a minute and then decided that I need a few things out of the grocery store. As I was entering the store who did I see leaving. My lovely blonde hottie. She held up her bag displaying the big package of Pampers she had bought. Smiled and gave me a high five as we passed each other.

[Remy316]

OK back to the 1200 DOP monthly food budget. My Chica told me that a family could live on 1200 DOP per month but she prefers 1500 DOP. Then she asked why I would ask, I said just curious. But then I started doing some math in my proper head and realized I give her enough to buy food for the year and in return she gives me as many orgasms as this body can produce (plus one or two extra LOL) in a week. So a week of of orgasms for a year of food. Fair to me!

Now I'm on a mission to feed more beautiful Dominican Women! Hahaha.

Just finished breakfast, having a cigar on the terrace (across from the La Sirena) with zumo de naranja (OK, I used the translator for the "zumo de" but I knew the naranja part).

Strawhat.

Very interesting! I see this topic is till ongoing. Glad you're having a good time here Strawhat.

I'm curious to know how they manage to get by with 1500 pesos "monthly" budget for food. Most chicas don't live alone, they have atleast one kid and other family members living together. So imo the 1500 would get used up very fast even on basic necessities. Here's why I say that:

I've been here few times mostly for work and some fun, but I'm still a novice compared to other veterans posting on this board. I was at the Nacional supermarket last week and I did do some research just for my curiosity. Although Nacional is high end supermarket, the price of two dozen eggs was high, vegetables and bread alone was going for over 600 to 800. A big sack of rice was not available so I could not check on the price of rice and beans. And the meat section was no less then 400 to 500 for average portions of carne. Milk is only available here as pre-packaged containers with longer shelf life, they don't sell fresh milk anymore since May, and the cost of packaged milk was average, about 300 o 400 pesos for 1 L container. Now most dominicans like to drink lot of sodas and juices, I did not check prices on it but I'm sure it wasn't cheap. Lastly, I went to the hot food section and the food quality was disappointing but it cost me close to 500 for a ravioli, mixed vegetables and coke. I know I was not in the same place where the locals would shop but their prices for similar items can't be that much different wherever they may shop.

Now keep in mind that we're having a discussion on food costs here on the island. I'm sure they have other needs such as toiletries, spices, electric bill, netflix, and more importantly daily transportation. So I'm still curious to learn how they can manage to get by on 1500 monthly budget.

[StrawHat]

Well that was not the answer I expected but very appropriate. But to clear up one point I bet you have been on a sub before hahaha.

Strawhat.

I was not StrawHat. My service to my country of origin was in what would be considered civil service. But highly specialized nonetheless.

My user name was taken from two sources. Number one: According to The Making of Star Trek (p. 256), the Romulan rank of sub-commander is fully equal to a Federation Starfleet captain. Number two: In my country of origin I was big into the BDSM world. I am a command and control DOM. Which means that I prefer a submissive that wants to obey my orders without me having to resort to punishment. If a Sub wants pain as her reward, I am skilled at applying that for her. Totally consensual. I was Mr. Grey before it got trendy. But no shades of grey with me brother. LOL! So, in my local circles I was called SubCommander also.

Enjoy your shopping trip. I am interested in reading your report. It will me more interesting to me than a report on the individual sex acts you perform with your Latina hottie. After all that is par for the course in Republica Dominicana.

[StrawHat]

OK back to the 1200 DOP monthly food budget. My Chica told me that a family could live on 1200 DOP per month but she prefers 1500 DOP. Then she asked why I would ask, I said just curious. But then I started doing some math in my proper head and realized I give her enough to buy food for the year and in return she gives me as many orgasms as this body can produce (plus one or two extra LOL) in a week. So a week of of orgasms for a year of food. Fair to me!

Now I'm on a mission to feed more beautiful Dominican Women! Hahaha.

Just finished breakfast, having a cigar on the terrace (across from the La Sirena) with zumo de naranja (OK, I used the translator for the "zumo de" but I knew the naranja part).

Strawhat.

[Darelax]

Just arrived today at the airport, automatic temp scan then the random Covid testing line on the left. I stayed to the right and the person in front and behind me were pulled for the test. I definitely look like a tourist but the two pulled looked Dominican to me. I knew about the random test from this forum which started after my visit last month. I feel fine and would not have traveled if I thought I was sick but the "what if" thought was in the back of my mind.

Now I'm sitting on the hotel terrace smoking a cigar and drinking a Presidente. Tomorrow morning my Latina shows up! But the La Sirena is directly across the street so we will go look at what 1200 pesos will buy. So SubCommander were you ever on subs?

Strawhat.

Elon Musk after four PCR tests doesn't know if he have COVID. He reported that he did four tests (two came back negative and two came back positive). Same test, same clinic.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/13/w...esnt-know.html

[SubCmdr]

Now I'm sitting on the hotel terrace smoking a cigar and drinking a Presidente. Tomorrow morning my Latina shows up! But the La Sirena is directly across the street so we will go look at what 1200 pesos will buy. So SubCommander were you ever on subs?
Strawhat.

I was not StrawHat. My service to my country of origin was in what would be considered civil service. But highly specialized nonetheless.

My user name was taken from two sources. Number one: According to The Making of Star Trek (p. 256), the Romulan rank of sub-commander is fully equal to a Federation Starfleet captain. Number two: In my country of origin I was big into the BDSM world. I am a command and control DOM. Which means that I prefer a submissive that wants to obey my orders without me having to resort to punishment. If a Sub wants pain as her reward, I am skilled at applying that for her. Totally consensual. I was Mr. Grey before it got trendy. But no shades of grey with me brother. LOL! So, in my local circles I was called SubCommander also.

Enjoy your shopping trip. I am interested in reading your report. It will me more interesting to me than a report on the individual sex acts you perform with your Latina hottie. After all that is par for the course in Republica Dominicana.