Santo Domingo

[OldKool]

Workiing girls in the US are very different from the girls we see in the DR. To get the same quality and service would cost a fortune. The DR economy is our friend. It forces nice young ladies to make some tough choices to have some of lifes little perks. I have respect for the girls I deal with. Sex is much better when you fuck some one you like. I do not need numbers at this stage of the game. I want quality sex if possible. This is why casas have no appeal to me. At the end of the day we all ave our own requirements. Youi can get some awesome chicas from the Cupid site. Most girls are open to what ever you want. A quick hookup with benefits or a long time relationship. There are no virgins on the sites so you can shoot your shot.

[GrownMan1]

The only problem discussing those in these types of forum is that most dudes that ask about them or who writes about them aren't all realistic in their expectations. We all know most us here don't live in the DR, most of us go there for a week or maybe two. So it's not enough time to build a relationship with a non-pro, even if you chat online first, if she's willing to talk to you and court you instead of her handsome local guys she's 99% not a real non-pro. You all think a normal non pro college girl in any country, with a bright future, normal parent, living in a normal neighborhood in her early 20's will actually date some of y'all old ass in your 50's and 60's, and then you come here and complain when she wanted money LOL or your date didn't go well?

The real non-pros will not touch most of us truth being told. unless, I repeat unless you're close to her age range, you live there or go there often, speak the language, and she's truly physically attracted to you. No different than normal women in the US.

Happy Hunting.

Man I agree with what you say. I take it that you are around their age, speak their language understandably, and are appealing to young women eyes. I was once like that until I got older. It is said that an older man does with money what a younger man does would love.

My definition is kind of different. I non-pro to me is not chica that does not sell her body for money.

Let me give you an example. My check engine light comes on and I'm taking it to a professional. Someone who works full-time in a profession and has considerable knowledge of the game. Example SW and Casa chicas.

Next we have Shadetree mechanics. They are considered semi pros because they do this but not on a regular basis. However if they have a knowledge of the profession and can perform similar jobs when contacted if they're available and and the price is right. Example waitresses. Tinder chicas.

Then you have people like me. I'm considered a non-pro. Yes I can change a tire, oil, spark plugs and wires. But I'm not a seeking money to do this type of work. However if someone needs this done and I just so happen to need some money I’ll do it! Depending on the car, how much they're paying.

There's another type of person and they not on the P4P scene for any reason. Period. It's like knocking on the door at my mothers house and telling her you need her to check your oil leak. It doesn't matter if you offer her five times the going rate she's not going to do it.

IMHO Many of us are delusional. We come to these countries thinking that these younger women desire us as much as we physically desire them. The only thing I can do with a younger chica is treat her respectfully, give her a little money and send her on her way.
The chicas that don't want to readily leave will show you in their actions. I cannot relate to women in their early 20's and 30's in my own Country. We are not on the same maturity level and I understand that. Its basically physical attraction or money that's going to get Her attention.

Hugh Hefner was able to live his life well because he wasn't delusional. Everybody knew it was the money and nobody was tripping. 🪦.

What was The play maker Deion sanders famous song: Must be the money.

[Turgid]

.... I met a girl once in a brothel in CR who I became friends w, occasionally we wouldn't even exchange money. Then she said she wanted to retire from the biz, cleaned herself up, post an ad on a dating site and an American gringo, black dude went there and married her.....

They have kids?

[MaddTraveler]

Well I'm in my late 60's and I'm headed for the DR to hook up with age twentysomething or thirtysomething max non-pros. My ticket's booked for later this month. I've never really tried linking with non-pros in Latin America. I've successfully done that in SEA. I'll give it a try and see what happens.

Enjoy your vaca old man LOL.

Call it what it is, if she's in her early twenties and willing to date you, first it won't be free meaning she's not a non-pro. Maybe a semi pro aka undercover hoe or a hardcore pro pretending. I too lived in the DR a while, Col, Costa Rica. But you know what, we can all dream and call them what we want. We're entitled to our own perception and delusions and no one cares. I met a girl once in a brothel in CR who I became friends w, occasionally we wouldn't even exchange money. Then she said she wanted to retire from the biz, cleaned herself up, post an ad on a dating site and an American gringo, black dude went there and married her. I'm her on FB and see this dude taking picture w the fam, was all legit and beautiful. Lots of those stories around.

So even though more than half the women from those countries are clean or real non pros, it's scary when you don't live there and trying to date one. Cause you wouldn't have enough time to really know her and her history, at least for me that kinna shit would matter if I want to call someone my real girlfriend or spouse. Ain't no way I'll marry a former WG or porn star although some dude dream of that as she'll come w extra experienced and extra stretched. To each his own. I stretched that girl well and had her goggle some thic seed milk in practice for her wedding night LOL.

Just do you sir!

[Turgid]

.......The real non-pros will not touch most of us truth being told. unless, I repeat unless you're close to her age range, you live there or go there often, speak the language, and she's truly physically attracted to you. ........
Happy Hunting.

Well I'm in my late 60's and I'm headed for the DR to hook up with age twentysomething or thirtysomething max non-pros. My ticket's booked for later this month. I've never really tried linking with non-pros in Latin America. I've successfully done that in SEA. I'll give it a try and see what happens.

[Triple Darknes]

I kind of regret going down this rabbit hole because as you said to the average weekend to week warrior who maybe sneaks a few trips a year none of this matters.

I guess if there were massive interest a subforum could be made to discuss this, but to the vast majority the point is moot. I spent a year in the DR and spent over a year in Colombia. It might be interesting to some that two different plugs are delievering two different girls today but again I've been where I am for over a year.

Trip.

[MaddTraveler]

Like Mr. E says a hooker is what a hooker does, If she accepts money for sex non pro semi or hardcore she is hoe.

The only difference between a hardcore and a semi is that a Hardcore gets entitled and ran through. The funny thing about hoes is the more dick they take the less they want to do. If it's a hoes first time for money generally she'll let you plow every hole in her body but when she knows better she does better. In fact I knew a girl who sold pussy on the side who's cousin got in the game with a dude who tried to pimp her. Her first client came in and promptly stuck his dick up her ass. Her cousin who hoe'd part time told her that anal was optional and cost way more money she then called me to retrain her. After she told me the anal story I should've fucked her in the ass.

But I digress my point is unless a girl is specifically instructed on what to do how to handle a client and how much to charge a girl's first client has extreme leverage over her. But other than that she's the same girl and every Hard core started out as a lovely innocent little flower.

If this keeps up I might need a Trip's giude to semi pros subforum.

Hope this helps.

Trip.

This topic brings the most discussions because of one main confusion. You wrote "accepts money" and then you wrote "non non pro semi or hardcore" and that's where you're wrong.

I agree with everything you said except that the definition of a "non pro" is someone who DOES NOT accept money so how is she a "Hoe" as you put it? Maybe in the general definition / context that all women are culpable of manipulating men, always about money incl a girlfriend or wife, I get that. But when talking about actual sex worker, fellas no one can argue that every single woman in the world will have sex for money. The majority will not and they do not.

In fact even in most active countries where prostitution is legal like DR have their majority of women being non-sex workers. Remember DR incl most Latin american countries are super super religious, and Public records suggest DR has 3. 5 Million to maybe 4 Million women, and about 100,000 sex workers, that's only about 2%, or may be 5% for those who does it on the low (This is FACTUAL DATA). So come on, real non-pros do exist, I have met them, dated them, etc. No sex for money, period.

The only problem discussing those in these types of forum is that most dudes that ask about them or who writes about them aren't all realistic in their expectations. We all know most us here don't live in the DR, most of us go there for a week or maybe two. So it's not enough time to build a relationship with a non-pro, even if you chat online first, if she's willing to talk to you and court you instead of her handsome local guys she's 99% not a real non-pro. You all think a normal non pro college girl in any country, with a bright future, normal parent, living in a normal neighborhood in her early 20's will actually date some of y'all old ass in your 50's and 60's, and then you come here and complain when she wanted money LOL or your date didn't go well?

The real non-pros will not touch most of us truth being told. unless, I repeat unless you're close to her age range, you live there or go there often, speak the language, and she's truly physically attracted to you. No different than normal women in the US. Anything else is either about money, about keeping you as a friend or fck buddy in hope you fall for her, get her preggo, maybe a green card one day, maybe marry her, become her sd / SU pappy, her ATM, etc.

Note that I mentioned "normal" because poverty obviously quickly turns many of those normal ones into hookies, to agree w your point above you could be her first, etc. My point is mainly about those who are able to sustain themselves financially enough, eat well, drive cars, live w parents or themselves, university grads, going in politics, celebs, our dumb asses will never see those unless we live there and meet their dating criterias, they don't need our dollars or for us to save them.

Happy Hunting.

[Triple Darknes]

You guys are way ahead of me. I have been concentrating on numbers rather than quality and semis and nons are so time consuming.

Like Mr. E says a hooker is what a hooker does, If she accepts money for sex non pro semi or hardcore SHE IS A HOE.

The only difference between a hardcore and a semi is that a Hardcore gets entitled and ran through. The funny thing about hoes is the more dick they take the less they want to do. If it's a hoes first time for money generally she'll let you plow every hole in her body but when she knows better she does better. In fact I knew a girl who sold pussy on the side who's cousin got in the game with a dude who tried to pimp her. Her first client came in and promptly stuck his dick up her ass. Her cousin who hoe'd part time told her that anal was optional and cost way more money she then called me to retrain her. After she told me the anal story I should've fucked her in the ass.

But I digress my point is unless a girl is specifically instructed on what to do how to handle a client and how much to charge a girl's first client has extreme leverage over her. But other than that she's the same girl and every Hard core started out as a lovely innocent little flower.

If this keeps up I might need a Trip's giude to semi pros subforum.

Hope this helps.

Trip.

[Triple Darknes]

The only plug you introduced me to. You have no problem hitting the help in the massage parlor. I saw the way she tried to protect you and your actions in the room. She really likes you.

Either that or she likes the money I've given her.

[GrownMan1]

Which plug are you talking about? The one you met No can do.

The only plug you introduced me to. You have no problem hitting the help in the massage parlor. I saw the way she tried to protect you and your actions in the room. She really likes you.

[Triple Darknes]

You guys are way ahead of me. I have been concentrating on numbers rather than quality and I suppose one can get better quality with semi and non-pros than with the working girls. The problem is semis and nons are so time consuming.

I think some dudes get so used to dealing with hardcores that they forget that they are women and not robots.

I could go into a deep dive about why hookers tend to use Pimps but the short version is Hoes aren't robots and they need someone to tell them to go out and get clients. If left to her own devices most hardcores unless she's a streetwalker literally fucking to eat that day or a drug addict only looks for clients when she asolutely has to.

In short there's no difference between Hardcores and semi's in that regard. The only real difference is when Hoes are on the prowl they'll let you know wheras the semi will give you a hint.

But again I'm getting ahead of myself here. I fuck semi's and nonpro's becuase that's what I'used to and it keeps me safe. I just considered getting a portable safe because I don't hide my money or valuables at all. It never really occured to me to do so because If I'm fucking a nurse or a waitress I know where they work so it generally wouldn't make sense for her to steal a few bucks from me. Most nonpros don't use condoms so they don't really question it, They literally say "presertivo?" and I say "I can't use them" and they say ÖK' At this point I don't bother to ask for CIP I'll just say I'm coming and the chica just keeps fucking so I let it go. I'm not suggesting that people do what I do but if you raw dogg you should know who you're sleeping with.

To the average traveling monger It's probably better to just go to a Casa but if you use Dating apps the girl could be a semi or a hardcore you'll never know and it doesn't really matter. It's not neccesarily more time consuming to fuck semi's the only time consuming part is developing the monger eye and learning womanese meaning learning to know when I lady is offering sex.

Protip Do you talk to tourists in your town for more than 5 seconds especially ones who barely speak your language? No well why would a Dominican say anything to you unless they were thinking they could get something out of it? Dominicans know exactly what you're there for and if they didn't want anything from you they'd steer clear. If they're being overly nice to you there's a reason for that. You hold a 5 minute convseration with most dominicans man or woman and they'd usually be willing to get a tip to tip you off to some pussy.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[SubCmdr]

You guys are way ahead of me. I have been concentrating on numbers rather than quality and I suppose one can get better quality with semi and non-pros than with the working girls. The problem is semis and nons are so time consuming.

You are correct about both the quality and the time element. But you can fuck both semi and non-pros for the same money as you you would pay a pro. That is the thing that makes the time investment in the the semi's and non-pros worth it to me. Better quality same price. To me that makes for a better value.

Not to say that time is not money. It most certainly is. But I do not have a wheels up clock ticking.

[Turgid]

You guys are way ahead of me. I have been concentrating on numbers rather than quality and I suppose one can get better quality with semi and non-pros than with the working girls. The problem is semis and nons are so time consuming.

[Triple Darknes]

Exactly that's why I said you should have sex with the plug. In behalf of all of us who she has hooked up. Trip I need you to take one for the team! Don't worry I will pay for it just do not give me the details.

Which plug are you talking about? The one you met No can do.

[GrownMan1]

You want to fuck the plug (unless she's unattractive and most women know if there ugly) Women are emotional, Even if they make way more money sending you dozens of chicas they will feel a way if you never fuck them.

Trip.

Exactly that's why I said you should have sex with the plug. In behalf of all of us who she has hooked up. Trip I need you to take one for the team! Don't worry I will pay for it just do not give me the details.