Santo Domingo

[MamaGuevos]

To me a non-pro (non-prostitute) is a chick that does not fuck for money. So it sounds weird for you to say you are looking for chicks that don't fuck for money so that you can pay them for sex.

I do not believe I said that I was looking for chicas who don't fuck for money so that I can pay them for sex. I have the same definition of non-pro as you. And non-pros are usually willing to fuck you for a very long time without asking for money if they believe your are interested in the long game ("largo plaza" No matter what the status of a girl I have sex with, I always give them a regalo (present), and they never turn me down, presumably because of the way I give them the money. I never say, "here is 2500 DOP for the anal sex", but rather something like, "here is some money for your taxi. I added a little extra so you could buy some flowers for your mother" or something similar to that. If the chica has children, I always give them something extra to buy the kids a toy.

No I live in Thailand, but I do know DR like the back of my hand. I look back and am amazed at how I used to get around the place before GPS was a normal thing.

While the geography of the DR has not changed, the sex scene has changed in many ways. As I mentioned, I have been there about 50 times in 15 years. As far as I can tell, the street scene has dwindled, the "massage" places are mostly out of business (but this happened a decade ago) and the paid sex industry is mostly online.

It seems to me like you enjoy criticizing others. I am looking for advice, and all you have told me is that almost every chica on the island is available if I throw money at her (in a manner that was clearly critical). I am totally aware that with patience, most young Dominican women will be happy to become a sex partner- even with a senior citizen like me- if we pay the bills. I know that women are not going shopping at Galleria 360 to get picked up by a gringo. I am simply asking where the best places to try and pick up a young chica. Each mall, restaurant, bar, etc has different clientele. Some are easier for gringos like me than others, and I simply do NOT know the best ones.

You are not inexperienced in the DR so what kind of disadvantage are you believing not living there puts you in? I have never lived there nor felt I was at some type of disadvantage because I did not. And this is especially true if you plan on using money to get what you want. I don't think those type of chicks care about where you live as much as they care about the money that you give. But you are experienced and know this already. Usually people with a well-established pipeline of chicks do not come asking where to get more chicks. They would just get them from the same place their well-established pipeline came from.

I belong to this site so that I can learn new and fun ways to meet cute women, and I know that there are members who are more knowledgeable than I or have a different set of experiences that they can share. I seek to tap their brains. I have literally answered a hundred PMs from members and given them advice about how to pick up girls using my approach. These guys all knew how to find Casa Theresa without my help, but were looking for something different. I have always given them concrete suggestions, not advice to the effect that you will find that almost every girl will fuck you if you put enough money on the table.

I think you have been away from the DR for too much time to really know the scene, but if you have any special insight that I have not appreciated, it would be great for me (as well as others) if you shared it on the ISG.

[MamaGuevos]

And of course the old word of mouth. You say you are already plugged in with chicks that will introduce you to other chicks. Why not continue to use them?///////Usually people with a well-established pipeline of chicks do not come asking where to get more chicks. They would just get them from the same place their well-established pipeline came from.

I am looking to meet girls outside of my usual pipeline for two reasons. First, I like variety. My current pipeline (in San Pedro de Marcoris) can provide me with more girls than I could possibly have sex with, but the chicas are remarkably similar in most respects, especially age (they are starting to average almost 30 years old, not a bad age, but it used to be more like 20-22). Second, and most importantly, they all seem to know each other. As a result, I occasionally get an outraged message (or call) from one girl complaining that I am seeing her cousin when I should have been spending my time with her! I am not certain that these girls are all true cousins, but they seem to think that they are one family. There seems to be almost no way to be with one of these girls without many others in their peer group knowing about my activities.

[SubCmdr]

You will always do better sourcing your pussy on your own. No matter how you choose to do it. The better your Spanish, the more options you have open to you. Money can only take you so far. Sometimes you even need a referral to get an agency to deal with you where they charge 150 - 300 hour.

[Mr Enternational]

But those places are managed by huslers. Only spend money on your drink and the $100 for the girl you like. And use uber if you take a girl home. Don't use those cab drivers outside.

After paying $10 for 1 drink and $100 for a girl, you might as well use the taxis outside. They will come out to be less of a rip off than the other 2.

[SubCmdr]

As SubCmdr mentioned to me, I should vetted her better at a nearby place and started with 2 k pesos + 500 if I like her, instead of going off her price. Most important, never let anyone control any situation.

I've been talking to chicas online in the Dominican Republic for close to 8 years. One of the things I don't need is pretend girl friends. I've always had real ones. When I am looking for strange, Tinder never seems to run short and unlike others I do not avoid them. I have not found them to be hard core. One main reason, hard core girls want to fuck now. I'm always on the long game. Hard core girls do not want to talk to you normally. You know, good morning, how are your feeling? Have you ate?(small talk). So my vetting is done strictly online now. After chatting with so many chicas my experience tells me when I need to put someone on the shelf. Scammers become evident. This is a right now culture. So, in the words of someone else "to each their own".

But when I was new to all this in the Dominican Republic, I did exactly as I suggested. New girls got invited to a coffee, lunch or a drink. Then the assessment could be made in person. As I got more comfortable I dropped that and started inviting girls directly to my apartment. Built up quite a reputation I might add. Dominicans watch you do everything and then they talk about it amongst themselves.

Now, I don't invite girls to my apartment if they are not one of my girlfriends. I pick them up and take them to a cabana. I vet on my way there. I have been sitting in the garage of the cabana negotiating with a girl who did not want just 1500 DOP. She insisted on 3000 DOP. I told her I would back my vehicle out right now and take her back home. She was like wait wait. I told her I would give her 2000 DOP. We had a great session and she had a body on her. Was this last minute negotiation a problem? Not for me. I was happy with the session. And she told me to hit her back anytime I wanted to see here again.

It is sex for money. I don't complicate that with the search for GFE. Why? Cause I don't need to pay for GFE. I got real GFE and it winds of costing me a plenty in time and money.

Hang tough Cam442. It is going to get better. Glad I could help a brother out.

[Durandpaul]

This V chica from who was asking from Tinder who previously wanted 5 k passages me again. She was messaging me constantly since I landed. I told her what I wanted for 4 k / hour and she agreed to it all. I decided to use my place a hotel palacio for the late morning activities instead of my nice Airbnb.

Long story short, I got hit was every trick in the book by her. She ask for money for taxi, wants Leche 5 min in. Did not do what we agreed on. Takes a 10 min shower after being there for 20 min. Then wants to go get something to eat after. Mind you, this V had some top notch performance with smiles and giggles throughout. I said no and told her she can go. If your new, use my post as a lesson like me. As SubCmdr mentioned to me, I shoulda vetted her better at a nearby place and started with 2 k pesos + 500 if I like her, instead of going off her price. Most important, never let anyone control any situation.

Went to get something to eat and started exploring as a tourist in the colonial zone. I felt like I needed to slow down on the mongering for the rest of the day. How these Dominicans drive is the biggest culture shock to me LOL. After a few hours, I went back to my Airbnb. Idk what the desk guy seen when he looked at me but he reminded me there was a gym on the 10th floor. Worked out for 2 hours while vibing to some music. Enjoyed some ribs and presidente then went to my balcony to chill. The change of pace felt really nice.

Defintitely try to negotiate more with thr goal to pay only half or 2/3 for their ask prices.

I suggest you also try to visit oasis or foxis mainly to see the quality for girls that ask $100 for an hour. You are already paying close to that so doesn't hurt to check them out and maybe you can try a girl there. But those places are managed by huslers. Only spend money on your drink and the $100 for the girl you like. And use uber if you take a girl home. Don't use those cab drivers outside.

Also try GBP. The rooms are dumps, but you can also seat at the bar. The objective here is for you to see decent to nice girls that charge 2500 pesos for two girls. I think one girl is 1500 pesos for 30 min. Those girls have energy try to get you to nut fast but will usually not rush you or have bad attitude.

On sokkha website, send messages to most of girls you like, and just start to negotiate and ask for pictures and location. There are many full service massage places in santo domingo este where you can pay 2000 to 2500 pesos.

[OldKool]

Can happen to anyone. Tinder girls can be hardcore so you have to be careful. Most hardcore girls will say what ever is required to get your money and do as little as possible. The Cupid girls try to hide if they are pros and will play it a little straight a bit and provide a different experoence. I stay away from tinder and call out services. Not sure how to Vet girls on the call out services. Vetting is something that's makes a huge difference.

This V chica from who was asking from Tinder who previously wanted 5 k passages me again. She was messaging me constantly since I landed. I told her what I wanted for 4 k / hour and she agreed to it all. I decided to use my place a hotel palacio for the late morning activities instead of my nice Airbnb.

Long story short, I got hit was every trick in the book by her. She ask for money for taxi, wants Leche 5 min in. Did not do what we agreed on. Takes a 10 min shower after being there for 20 min. Then wants to go get something to eat after. Mind you, this V had some top notch performance with smiles and giggles throughout. I said no and told her she can go. If your new, use my post as a lesson like me. As SubCmdr mentioned to me, I shoulda vetted her better at a nearby place and started with 2 k pesos + 500 if I like her, instead of going off her price. Most important, never let anyone control any situation.

Went to get something to eat and started exploring as a tourist in the colonial zone. I felt like I needed to slow down on the mongering for the rest of the day. How these Dominicans drive is the biggest culture shock to me LOL. After a few hours, I went back to my Airbnb. Idk what the desk guy seen when he looked at me but he reminded me there was a gym on the 10th floor. Worked out for 2 hours while vibing to some music. Enjoyed some ribs and presidente then went to my balcony to chill. The change of pace felt really nice.

[Cam442]

This V chica from who was asking from Tinder who previously wanted 5 k passages me again. She was messaging me constantly since I landed. I told her what I wanted for 4 k / hour and she agreed to it all. I decided to use my place a hotel palacio for the late morning activities instead of my nice Airbnb.

Long story short, I got hit was every trick in the book by her. She ask for money for taxi, wants Leche 5 min in. Did not do what we agreed on. Takes a 10 min shower after being there for 20 min. Then wants to go get something to eat after. Mind you, this V had some top notch performance with smiles and giggles throughout. I said no and told her she can go. If your new, use my post as a lesson like me. As SubCmdr mentioned to me, I shoulda vetted her better at a nearby place and started with 2 k pesos + 500 if I like her, instead of going off her price. Most important, never let anyone control any situation.

Went to get something to eat and started exploring as a tourist in the colonial zone. I felt like I needed to slow down on the mongering for the rest of the day. How these Dominicans drive is the biggest culture shock to me LOL. After a few hours, I went back to my Airbnb. Idk what the desk guy seen when he looked at me but he reminded me there was a gym on the 10th floor. Worked out for 2 hours while vibing to some music. Enjoyed some ribs and presidente then went to my balcony to chill. The change of pace felt really nice.

[Cam442]

I woke up feeling refreshed. Went to colonial zone to explore and get breakfast while casually combing through my list of contacts I gathered from tinder beforehand. A lot of top diamond chicks in my list are falling through because they want 150-300 $. Not going to lie, might take one up towards the end of stay.

After a while, my phone started getting too low so I took a Uber back to my Airbnb. First Uber driver that was committed to having a conversation with me haha (decided not to where a mask this time). I'm getting used to using the translator app, but dam. You guys make it sound easy LOL. He ended up having good conversation and he gave me some advice on the women. He ended up taking me to bluemall, told me where to geto go and waited outside for me. Came back and gave him 500 pesos total for all the help and drive. He said he can drive me to any casa and wait for me. We exchange numbers.

I switched things up and started looking through Skokka at Airbnb. Went for a massage 4 hand erotic massage with hair removal. I decided to walk there because it was 10 min away. Greeted by chicas at front. One lightskinned with a big ass for her size and a natural dark skinned. Gave me a shot and they delivered on what they promised. Ended up giving me a handjob during the session a realized I forgot to ask about how I was going to bust a load LOL. 1 hour 25 min experience for 7500 pesos.

Walk back and ordered UberEATS. Idk what is, but every place I ordered from so was either not really good or the portion is smaller than you expect. Ordered empanadas and they had the tiniest bit of meat paste in bite sized shell.

Chicas hitting me up, none giving me a reasonable price. They want more than the pros with none of the additions. Negotiated with a pro from Chiviricas. She wanted 4500 + additional for taxi; a hour massage / bbj / FS with condom. I ended up passing. I was too tired to negotiate further and didn't feel like it was worth risking my Airbnb stay.

I went down to the front desk guy and ask him what he would do if I bring a chica here. He said if she my friend then he just bring her up. That's it, LOL. This can be very good or very bad (Host told me they must be announced to them 24 hours before arrival with ID and full name. Only then the front will be able to let them in and allow up. This was added in the massages and wasn't stated in the posted ad.) I have a angel and devil talking in my ear on what I should do.

[MamaGuevos]

There are still a couple of hookers to pick up on El Conde.

There are always hookers on El Conde. I am not looking for hookers, but non (or semi_ pros. Most Dominicanas are interested in men with money, but only a few actually ask for money up front. Some are playing the long game, and not a day goes by when I don't get a WhatsApp from a Dominicana asking me to send a Western Union / Moneygram from the USA because of a sudden unexpected financial emergency. I only give in when I expect to get paid back with some hot sex on my next trip (I usually trade small gifts for promises of trios. This has proved to work well).

But I am looking to meet new non pros. My established ones are fun, but I like the chase. I do not like bars as new venues because I cannot hear the chicas speak Spanish over the sound of the music and I do not dance, which frankly is a huge disadvantage in a bar.

Of course, I can always meet chicas online-this is easy and 99% successful (advice to the newbie, if you really want to get laid on your first trip, go to Badoo, Tagged or Dominican Cupid and arrange a few dates. Start your conversations with respect but when you agree on a time and place, don't forget to remind the chica to bring a toothbrush and a bikini for the first date. They will figure out what that means without having to say, "I want to see you naked and fuck on our first date."

[Mr Enternational]

I have read and digested Mr Enternational's criticism of the nave gringo (me) who (according to Mr E) believes there are a horde of chicas looking for guys like me for paid sex. I am not actually nave, nor inexperienced in the DR. I have been to Santo Domingo at least 50 times, always on business, and have a well-established pipeline of chicas I can tap into if I get lonely. These girls are all non pros from San Pedro de Marcoris (and a few from Sto Domingo), and they always have willing friends to introduce to me.

It looks like you are using Trip's definition of non-pro. To me a non-pro (non-prostitute) is a chick that does not fuck for money. So it sounds weird for you to say you are looking for chicks that don't fuck for money so that you can pay them for sex. But the game is online now. Tinder, Cupid, Skokka. And of course the old word of mouth. You say you are already plugged in with chicks that will introduce you to other chicks. Why not continue to use them?

But, I do not live in the DR, which puts me at a disadvantage. I assume Mr E lives there and knows the territory like the back of his hand. (an aside: Mr E, is this true? Do you live in the DR?

No I live in Thailand, but I do know DR like the back of my hand. I look back and am amazed at how I used to get around the place before GPS was a normal thing.

You are not inexperienced in the DR so what kind of disadvantage are you believing not living there puts you in? I have never lived there nor felt I was at some type of disadvantage because I did not. And this is especially true if you plan on using money to get what you want. I don't think those type of chicks care about where you live as much as they care about the money that you give. But you are experienced and know this already.

Most importantly, where would you go for a daytime pickup of a non pro in Sto Domingo

Again, if you are talking about some place where a bunch of chicks that are supposedly not hookers are gathering waiting on tricks (or non-tricks rather) to come pick them up then that place does not exist. If you are talking about seeing a chick and saying Hello, I would like to get to know you, let's exchange phone numbers, then literally everywhere. Usually people with a well-established pipeline of chicks do not come asking where to get more chicks. They would just get them from the same place their well-established pipeline came from.

[MamaGuevos]

I have read and digested Mr Enternational's criticism of the naïve gringo (me) who (according to Mr E) believes there are a horde of chicas looking for guys like me for paid sex. I am not actually naïve, nor inexperienced in the DR. I have been to Santo Domingo at least 50 times, always on business, and have a well-established pipeline of chicas I can tap into if I get lonely. These girls are all non pros from San Pedro de Marcoris (and a few from Sto Domingo), and they always have willing friends to introduce to me. But typical of my gender, I am always looking for something new.

I am interested in non-pros, and would like to try and hookup with someone on my own. I am not certain if I "have game", but I am willing to take no for an answer and try again until I have success. I am never rude to chicas, so I am never ashamed of my actions.

But, I do not live in the DR, which puts me at a disadvantage. I assume Mr E lives there and knows the territory like the back of his hand. (an aside: Mr E, is this true? Do you live in the DR? If so, where?

Most importantly, where would you go for a daytime pickup of a non pro in Sto Domingo?

[Mr Enternational]

Started unpacking everything then ABRA FUCKING CADABRA my wallet ends up appearing in a random pouch compartment that I no memory or knowledge putting it in.

LOL. It is always the last place you put it.

[Mr Enternational]

It used to be pretty easy to pick up a chica on El Conde.

There are still a couple of hookers to pick up on El Conde.

[MamaGuevos]

This place does not exist. Why do foreigners think there are just pools of women in foreign countries hanging out at malls waiting to be swept off their feet (or paid) by gringos? What you saw is just what there is. Normal people out shopping and going to the movies and shit. It is the same as home. Are you home walking into a mall and getting chicks to follow you home for free or for money? If not, then do not expect it anywhere else. Of course you can meet chicks and exchange numbers in hopes of getting to know each other or whatever. But nobody is following you back to your hotel to fuck. Get those fantasies out of your head.

*Only exceptions are in Philippines. Robinsons in Manila and Ayala in Cebu there were actual hookers hanging out in designated areas to be picked up by foreigners. But as far as going to pick up a normal girl that place does not exist.

It used to be pretty easy to pick up a chica on El Conde. Not as many girls had phiones back then, so there were different logistics to take into account. I assumed the girls were the same, but the location had changed. I guess times have changed (as they always will).

That being said, I have left my WhatsApp on a card with the check after a nice meal a few times, and about 15% of the time, I get a call from a waitress. I don't ask them to come to my place to fuck, but rather to go out for a drink. That approach wouldn't work well in the USA either, but it does in the DR (correct me if I am wrong! There are lots of similarities between the DR and home, but it is still 10,000 times easier to meet a non-pro girl for sexual congress in the DR than NYC, LA or Chicago.