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  1. #14491

    A Rose by any other name?

    Quote Originally Posted by CharlesPooter  [View Original Post]

    ....I agree with Oakie that there is a difference, and semi-pros are usually a more rewarding experience. I also agree that they have, or at least consider themselves to have, a slightly higher social standing....

    ....Any girl who goes out in the evening looking to gain money from sex, I call a puta. I reserve "semi-pro" for the girl going about her usual routine, not out looking for paid sex, but who can be picked up and fucked, yet fully expects payment at the end. Fine distinctions and grey areas maybe, but there is still a difference that is recognized by the local population.
    As a guy who lives in Sosua (Most of the time. Right now I'm back in TO to take care of a little business, family stuff like weddings, and Father's Day) I am almost exclusively fucking semis.

    The differences are real and not imagined in the social pecking order.

    In Sosua the reality is that semis are typically bar, hotel and retail store staff. They have a regular job and therefore have some social skills, personal hygiene and grooming, can show up on time, and can be trusted around money and food.

    That's a big difference from your average strip strolling "pros", right there!

    In their jobs with the public, they are constantly being hit upon by tourists and regular visitors. They all want to fuck that new young beautiful bartender or server. store clerk or bank teller. The guys all want to know if she's putting out, or wifed up.

    She can basically pick and choose her clients, like that nice, clean old guy, who has a nice local apartment and a little money to spend, or the buff good looking young buck who comes in regularly with his pals. There's an element of familiarity and connection that builds up over a little time.

    As OldKool says, that's not something the occasional visitor or weekend warrior has the time or the inclination to develop.

    One big falacy here that a lot of guys tell me is that his chica is not a pro, she's a "student". Some say they need a little "help" to start a small business.

    There's an awful lot of chicas here that are, or have been, "students" at one time or another, seeking skills to get a decent job, and you will find a lot of guys "helping" her with her "tuition fees", and feeling good about it! But it's still the same old game.

    As usual IMHO, and YMMV.

  2. #14490

    Having a flocl of Semi pros is a necessity

    If you have a lst of semi pros you do not need Sosua. I like the service you get with the semi pros. The are not in a huryy and they provide consistent GFE. I bring toys, olls and lube. I love when a girl wous ask if I bought a toy. If I lived full time in the DR I do not think I would need to many pros. Old guys like me can pull attractive women with very little effort. Dominican women are attacted to men with money in their pockets However when you are on a one week vacation you have no time seduce non pros and that is the beauty of Sosua. You can right to business as soon as you unpack your luggage.

    Quote Originally Posted by CharlesPooter  [View Original Post]
    I take a position somewhere between Mr Enternational and Oakie.

    I agree with Oakie that there is a difference, and semi-pros are usually a more rewarding experience. I also agree that they have, or at least consider themselves to have, a slightly higher social standing.

    My long-term girlfriend worked in a pool-hall, setting up the tables and serving drinks. Working hours were from 4 pm to 2 am (at which time it could be dangerous for them getting home, and my girl was once mugged at gun- and knife-point and robbed of her ID, which cost a packet to put right.) For this they were paid the princely sum of 4000 pesos per month. As the clientele was 95% Dominican, what tips she got only covered her moto to and from work and a meal from a street-vendor. The only reason the girls worked there was the occasional chance to go with a customer to the nearby hotel for a an hour or two at 1500 pesos. I would agree with Mr Enternational in calling her a puta but she would be genuinely offended at that job-description and so would her employers.

    Any girl who goes out in the evening looking to gain money from sex, I call a puta. I reserve "semi-pro" for the girl going about her usual routine, not out looking for paid sex, but who can be picked up and fucked, yet fully expects payment at the end. Fine distinctions and grey areas maybe, but there is still a difference that is recognized by the local population.

  3. #14489
    Quote Originally Posted by Oakie  [View Original Post]

    In Sosua, the term "semi pro" usually means she has a day job, and moonlights.

    They do have a higher social standing in the local scene, odd as that may seem! They look down on full time street walkers.

    They generally make for better GFE, for those who want that sort of thing!
    I take a position somewhere between Mr Enternational and Oakie.

    I agree with Oakie that there is a difference, and semi-pros are usually a more rewarding experience. I also agree that they have, or at least consider themselves to have, a slightly higher social standing.

    My long-term girlfriend worked in a pool-hall, setting up the tables and serving drinks. Working hours were from 4 pm to 2 am (at which time it could be dangerous for them getting home, and my girl was once mugged at gun- and knife-point and robbed of her ID, which cost a packet to put right.) For this they were paid the princely sum of 4000 pesos per month. As the clientele was 95% Dominican, what tips she got only covered her moto to and from work and a meal from a street-vendor. The only reason the girls worked there was the occasional chance to go with a customer to the nearby hotel for a an hour or two at 1500 pesos. I would agree with Mr Enternational in calling her a puta but she would be genuinely offended at that job-description and so would her employers.

    Any girl who goes out in the evening looking to gain money from sex, I call a puta. I reserve "semi-pro" for the girl going about her usual routine, not out looking for paid sex, but who can be picked up and fucked, yet fully expects payment at the end. Fine distinctions and grey areas maybe, but there is still a difference that is recognized by the local population.

  4. #14488
    Quote Originally Posted by NamasteParis  [View Original Post]
    You could have more than 5% chance if you do some homework one month before, which means DominicanCupid research. Some work that you should not need if you go straight to Sosua.
    NamasteParis is quite correct. What I wrote was stupid, the result of a senile brain-fart. Although Njoean197 was quite clear, I someow misread "semi-pros"as "non-pros' and my comment applied to non-pros only. Apologies to all.

  5. #14487
    Quote Originally Posted by Njoean197  [View Original Post]
    I also want to check out the bars and clubs and get some dancing in with some local chicas if possible. Maybe do some stuff during the day with them as well. You can only spend so many nights at Classicos in Sosua. I wanted to try something different. Based off your recommendation, I m very hesitant to try SD till I speak Spanish better. Not worth the risk.
    SD it's hard to conquer when you don't know the layout. You not going to figure it out on a short vacation. The areas too big. And you're going to need transportation unless you concentrate in an area conveniently located near your hotel and access to chicas. This will limit your concentration of Chicas.

    Go back to the Su. If you want a change of pace go to Cabarete or Puerto Plata for a day or two. Both of these places are about 20 minutes from the Su. Both of them offer a different change of pace yet the same rat race. Let the Su be your base.

    I don't know how much time you have but, on a short vacation you don't have time for bullshit. SD Takes a better understanding. Dominican Cupid has been successful. Just remember not to put all your eggs in one basket. A lot of guys waste hours of preparation and talking to Chica prior to coming only for the Chica to be a no-show. It's like you spent hours and days conversing on WhatsApp and once you arrive in the country she's nowhere to be found. If you go DC route; You should Schedule 10 chicas a day to meet. Don't feel bad if you don't fit all of them in your schedule. Take the first one that comes on time. Sometimes on short vacation you just don't have time to conquer so big of an area.

    I would've suggest Boca Chica but if you're used to the Su. Boca can disappoint you.

  6. #14486
    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge  [View Original Post]
    However you define "semi-pro" or "pro" there is more of it in Santo Domingo than there is in Sosua. I know there are skilled providers in both places who will convince a new visitor they found whatever they've been fantasizing about in the lead up to their trip.
    All women want something from you, even if it's only your time, or your dick, or your money.

    In Sosua, the term "semi pro" usually means she has a day job, and moonlights.

    They do have a higher social standing in the local scene, odd as that may seem! They look down on full time street walkers.

    They generally make for better GFE, for those who want that sort of thing!

  7. #14485
    Quote Originally Posted by Stykler  [View Original Post]
    Yeah, that really makes everyone safer! Not.
    It makes ME safer, that's all I need to worry about.

  8. #14484
    Quote Originally Posted by Manizales911  [View Original Post]
    In addition, in the USA One can go out and easily and legally purchase a firearm or twenty if one chooses to do so.
    Yeah, that really makes everyone safer! Not.

  9. #14483
    However you define "semi-pro" or "pro" there is more of it in Santo Domingo than there is in Sosua. I know there are skilled providers in both places who will convince a new visitor they found whatever they've been fantasizing about in the lead up to their trip.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    What is the difference? The way I look at it is that I am either paying or not paying. So the semi-pro argument has always been lost with me. I am not going to put in all kind of legwork looking for a chick that I have to pay anyway. For me, paid chicks are a spur of the moment thing.

    And how would you know a pro from a semi-pro? All you know is what she tells you. (How much of a semi-pro is she if she is coming over for only half a day to let a total stranger have his way with her?) So just go back to Sosua and imagine all the girls telling you it is their first time doing this because they ran out of money to pay this semester at the university.

  10. #14482
    I also want to check out the bars and clubs and get some dancing in with some local chicas if possible. Maybe do some stuff during the day with them as well. You can only spend so many nights at Classicos in Sosua. I wanted to try something different. Based off your recommendation, I m very hesitant to try SD till I speak Spanish better. Not worth the risk.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    What is the difference? The way I look at it is that I am either paying or not paying. So the semi-pro argument has always been lost with me. I am not going to put in all kind of legwork looking for a chick that I have to pay anyway. For me, paid chicks are a spur of the moment thing.

    And how would you know a pro from a semi-pro? All you know is what she tells you. (How much of a semi-pro is she if she is coming over for only half a day to let a total stranger have his way with her?) So just go back to Sosua and imagine all the girls telling you it is their first time doing this because they ran out of money to pay this semester at the university.

  11. #14481
    You will have no more trouble finding girls in Santo Domingo than you would have in Sosua. You will have more variety and quality in Santo Domingo. Once the sun is low (beginning about 4 PM) the Conde is similar to Sosua in terms of concentration of willing providers in an open air setting. It is the place where you will need the least amount of Spanish and the least amount of effort to get girls. Just like Sosua.

    As for GFE, my opinion is you are less likely to have anything along those lines in Sosua where 90%+ of the women you will meet are focused on getting your money and getting away from you as soon as possible to get somebody else's money. Let us know how you make out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Njoean197  [View Original Post]
    Sorry if I am out of line asking this in the wrong forum, but I am new here. I was wondering if someone could help me to decide where I should go for a short mongering vacation in the Dominican Republic. I have been to Sosua and it was very good. A little sketchy at times and the girls could have been a bit cleaner but I loved it for its convenience and abundance of women at cheap prices compared to the USA I am in my mid thirties, Caucasian, in decent shape, good job, I can pull regular American girls out of the bars sometimes, my game is decent enough, very poor Spanish skills. I really would like to visit Santo Domingo and try and see if I can snag some semi-pros or regular Dominicans. Also meet at least one girl for regular GFE while I am there. Will I be able to do this without knowing much Spanish and being a bit older? I want to spend 4-5 days and shoot for two girls a day. This was obviously guaranteed in Sosua, but I hear I may be out of luck in SD. If my chances of scoring semi-pros is 50/50 I the rather just go back to Sosua, but if its higher than that, I would like to take my chances and check SD out. If anyone with experience could help me out, I would greatly appreciate it!

  12. #14480
    Quote Originally Posted by Njoean197  [View Original Post]
    If my chances of scoring semi-pros is 50/50 I the rather just go back to Sosua, but if its higher than that, I would like to take my chances and check SD out. If anyone with experience could help me out, I would greatly appreciate it!
    What is the difference? The way I look at it is that I am either paying or not paying. So the semi-pro argument has always been lost with me. I am not going to put in all kind of legwork looking for a chick that I have to pay anyway. For me, paid chicks are a spur of the moment thing.

    And how would you know a pro from a semi-pro? All you know is what she tells you. (How much of a semi-pro is she if she is coming over for only half a day to let a total stranger have his way with her?) So just go back to Sosua and imagine all the girls telling you it is their first time doing this because they ran out of money to pay this semester at the university.

  13. #14479
    Quote Originally Posted by CharlesPooter  [View Original Post]
    Mid-thirties? You are a mere boy. I am guessing average age of visiting mongers in the DR is mid-fifties.

    On such a short trip and with little Spanish, your chances are less than 5% (unless you are prepared to spend three times what it would cost you for P4P in Sosua. Or unless you look like Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise when they were in their mid-thirties).
    You could have more than 5% chance if you do some homework one month before, which means DominicanCupid research. Some work that you should not need if you go straight to Sosua.

  14. #14478
    Quote Originally Posted by Njoean197  [View Original Post]
    Will I be able to do this ... being a bit older?
    Mid-thirties? You are a mere boy. I am guessing average age of visiting mongers in the DR is mid-fifties.

    Quote Originally Posted by Njoean197  [View Original Post]
    If my chances of scoring semi-pros is 50/50 I the rather just go back to Sosua, but if its higher than that ...
    On such a short trip and with little Spanish, your chances are less than 5% (unless you are prepared to spend three times what it would cost you for P4P in Sosua. Or unless you look like Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise when they were in their mid-thirties).

  15. #14477
    Quote Originally Posted by RebelMonger  [View Original Post]
    I've lived here in USA for many years and never had any problem with crime.
    Neither have I for the most part, hell I can't remember the last time I locked my door I'm not even sure that I have a key. The simple proof of the safety in most of the USA Vs. Most third world countries is the bars on every single window and door of almost every single home and business, you don't see that in any area of the USA Except the more dangerous parts of the inner cities, there is a reason for that. In addition, in the USA One can go out and easily and legally purchase a firearm or twenty if one chooses to do so.

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