Santo Domingo

[Prtyr2]

unbornson. . .sophias is certainly upscale. I drove past last week during the day and the cars lined up outside were insane. Lamborghini, 2 ferraris, jags and the more pedestrian Beamers and benz. . . ouch. . . .40% luxury tax on top of hefty price tags for those cars.

[Knowledge]

Why do I live in the DR?

I often ask myself why I live here in the DR a 3rd world country?

1) The #1 cause of Death is auto accidents.

2) Dominicans homicide rate is 44 out of 100,000 people compare to NYC which is 11 out of 100,000 people. There were appx 2,500 murders in the DR in 2005 with a population about equivelent to NYC which had under 500 murders.

3) Only 10% of the people graduate High School and only 25% make it out of grade school. Not much intellect across the board and wealthy Dominicans are lighter skinned than darker Dominicans and the upper 70% of the wealth comes from the top 10% of the people. Also the DR pays the least amount of money per Capita per child on education in all of Latina America. It sounds as if the wealthy people don't want the poor people taking any of their money.

4) The average Dominican does not have potable water or a bathroom in their house. It is a fact of life & horrific that, in many barrios more than 50 families share one bathroom.

5) The Meats suck and forget about getting a good hamburger. If you want really good food there are some fine restaurants in Santo Domingo & Las Terranas but you will have to pay for it. When going out to eat the taxes and tips add up to appx 30% and that doesnt include a tip for the waiter. The propina on the bill goes to the restaurant owners mostly.

6) The average Dominican has only 6-8 hrs of electricity a day and Electricity costs double what it costs in the states and Europe. The main reason that there is no electricity in this country is that noone pays everyone taps in on free lines and the corruption adds to the problems.

7) The cost of gasoline is well over $4.00 a gallon approachung $5 USD per galollon. It is for that reason that many people are using Propane Gas which is cheaper but has such horrible fumes that sometimes it ios difficult to breathe if stuck in traffic.

8) Many mosquitos carry malaria so you have to be very careful especially in Higuey, Punta Cana and by the Haitian border.

9) The World factbook says the HIV rate is 2.5% in the DR but a recent study published it at 12%. Think about it the average dominican makes approximately 1300 pesos a week, assuming that he/she fucks 3 times a week. Why would he or she by a 3 pack of condoms which cost 150 pesos more than 10% of his/her weekly income? Now you have to say that if the rate is 12% well whats the hiv rate for *****s between the ages of 18-25? Since they are the ones having the most risky sex its possible it could be as high as 50% pretty fucking scary. Bottom Line is always use a condom.

10) Health Care If you do not have money or insurance and you go to the hospital, the doctors in many cases will not help you without payment There is scarce medicine available at hospitals and you must go to a pharmacy to purchase medication.

11) If you call an ambulance the ambulance may come in 1-3 hours depending on where you are. So, again, I suggest be extremely careful when driving.

12) The theft rate is one of the highest in the world. As in many other latin america countries people have metal gates on there entrance from top to bottom & bars on the windows to prevent theft and break ins.

13) In a recent study, per Capita Dominican women make up the largest percentage of prostitutes gloabally. FYI The top 3 countries with the most prostitutes are as follows, Thailand was #1 they have a population of 65 million people, Brasil 2nd with a 180 million people and the DR third with only 9 million people.

14 Corruption: The police are only paid $25-30 a week so they literally shake down motorists and make arrests so they can take a kick back to let people off. Remember, the policia has to put food on the table for their families too and 35 bucks a week aint gonna cut it.

In most cases the police practically beg you for money to feed their kids or for a beer, when they pull you over. And when I say pull you over, I mean pull you over. They set up roadblocks on any given night throught SD and just stop motorists and ask for money. If you don't give them money they might try to screw with you.

Why I love it here in the DR and why the negatives outweigh the positives:

Dominicans are very proud people and when I ask them why they are so proud of being Dominican 9 out of 10 reply. "I don't know why, just because I'm Dominican".

That's kinda how this topic came up cuz with so many negatives I don't know why I am here? Well maybe I've figured it out a little.

If you make a decent living you can avoid all of the pitfalls above except for the meat, milk and driving.

The women are the friendliest females in the world. Guys are a little bit of a pai in the ass as there are soo many hustlers aka (Tigres) but the women are awesome! Period. Dominican men fuck them, cheat on them, beat them abandon them at alarming rates, so If you treat them well they will appreciate your kindness and treat you like a king. (el rey)

The weather is fabulous & the beaches are amazing.

You feel a sense of freedom living in the D.R. people dont bother you for trivial stupid things.

Despite all the negatives Dominicans are geuinely happy people and I feel much younger living here. If you have a decent pension I think he DR is a perfect place to retire but you must know how to handle the pitfalls.

Santo Domingo was recently rated one of the cheapest & most affordable cities in the world.

I would love to hear your responses.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.

My response is you present a fact based and realistic image of the country. Many residents aren't aware of some of the facts you reported.

I recommend the readers use it as a guide to evaluate the other information you see posted. My opinion is that any other information that doesn't mostly line up with the facts of this post contains some bullshit.

[UnbornSon]

Well I just got back from my first trip to Santo Domingo and I have to admit it exceeded my expectations. Thanks for everyone who leaves great information on this site and specifically to FORD who directly aswered a few extra questions I had!

Ok. We arrived on Thursday (July 6) and basically just ended up getting a taxi. I had tried to find a good driver to be around for the whole weekend but didn't find any real good recommendations [only a couple in past posts]. Anyway a Taxi was better than a Rental Car (after the scams I heard about). So off we were to the Renaissance Jaragua. I know I know. This is not a chica friendly hotel and we decided to go ahead since we got a $75 room rate and I am a Marriott platinum member. I thought I would give it a shot. In the end I won't plan on staying there again because their security is ridiculous and I gave hell to their management. However, there I was able to have at least 1 session in my room and the rest were in Casa's anyway. Before I get to the chica let me add some additional restaurant info. I love good food and boy did I find a great place. If you want to see the hottest (non-working) chick’s in Santo Domingo you have to go to Sophia’s. Now this is an expensive restaurant. I mean Miami prices. I was paying $8-9 a drink and our meal was around $50-75 a person. But this is the kind of place I like and we went there 2 nights out of the 3 we were there. I think I had the best Mojito I have ever had at this place and the Caipirinha are good also. The women are stunningly beautiful here and they almost all speak English (because this is the Elite of Santo Domingo). I was surprised no one else referenced this place but I tell you. It is definitely worth it! As for clubs. Check out Loft! It was really good and those who love the club scene with hot chicks will like it. If you want a little more low key but still a great time try a place called "Trio". There is also another little bar behind Trio and up the stairs that was playing great music and had a fun little crowd.

So lets get to the good stuff. Luckily my friend was acquainted with one of the owners of the Casa Mansion. So we had him pick us up and off we went. There were about 22 girls in the place and I was impressed with the quality. A few 8-9 and most of the rest were around 7’s. I am pretty picky so this is a good number. Anyway I picked up this really cute little spinner who was just awesome. I mean this girl just wanted to keep going and going. I nick named her the Energizer bunny. I am normally not a multi guy but damn if she did not get it out of me and I was even considering a 3rd. I had serious thoughts about taking this girl to my place the next night. She kept saying she wanted it 6 more times. LOL!

On Friday we decided to go with our friend to try a different Casa and also a strip club. We first went to the strip club. I think it was called "Sutra". Not that big but it was pretty nice inside. There were about 15 girls and there were a couple of stunners. Woo man! Me and my friend picked out the 2 hottest ones and decided to go get a dance (1000 pesos for 2 dances, but they are good. You can’t get too much out of it, but a hell of a lot of fun). Anyway they wanted like 7000 to take a girl to a room and we said Hell no. We in stead made plans to meet these 2 girls the next afternoon for lunch and hopefully a little more. After "Sutra" we headed to Casa Pink House. This was recommended by our friend but I really don’t know why. It was no where as good as Mansion but I ended up getting a chick that was about a 7 – 7. 5 It was her lips that did it for me. They just screamed BJ! Luckily the experience was pretty damn good and once again she kept me going for round two and I was loving every minute. [I really love how these Dominican girls get into it! ]

Now Saturday. We get a hold of the 2 girls from "Sutra" and they meet us as our hotel. We went to lunch and had a great time. We then went to the mall where (of course) the girls wanted us to buy them something. One of the girls got her belly button pierced and since I had never seen that before it was pretty classic! Anyway we had a great time and we got them back to our rooms. My friend was in the Garden room and he had an easier time getting her girl to his room. I basically had to sneek my girl into the elevator with me and luckily we managed to get through. This girl is so hot and gives a great GFE experience. We really had a good time and I definitely plan on seeing her again on my next trip. Considering I only spend about 2200 Pesos in the mall it was a great bargain to boot. Saturday night we kept pretty easy since we had already had our fun and we just went back to Sophia’s for a great dinner and ended up at Loft and Trio partying to 5a. M.

Overall a great experience in Santo Domingo. I was very impressed with the beauty of the women and I will definitely be returning. My normal travel destination is Panama City where they have some Hot Columbians working (and I have had a lot of luck with regular Panamanian women) but I think I will have to start splitting up my time!

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.

[Member #2128]

Arrived in SD via guagua from BC and checked into EL CONDE DE PENALBA on the Conde at the end across from the park. $60 USD for a nice air-conditioned room with a park view. Guest friendly, for ST, if not for the whole night. TLN is another $10USD. However, on the first night, the pigeons cooing and squawking on the balcony outside woke me at about 6AM. Damn! Changed to an inner, windowless room for the second night. Much better. Good bathroom and excellent air-conditioning. Bed was queen and comfortable.

First night went to CASA DE MODELOS. Time for the rip-off. I'm no 3000 peso monger! There were about 10 -15 girls, all light skinned Dominicanas, friendly and not aggressive (I had had my fill of that in BC!). The guy in charge, Julio I think, was a cold-hearted bastard, maybe 30 years old, who never met your eye, talked to you looking away, as if you were some kind of pest. He quoted 2700 for the chica, but I insisted on 2500 (another monger from Atlanta on the premises that night told me to ask for it). After a few times, he agreed to 2500. Went with Beatrice, a slim, dark-haired hottie who was friendly and professional without being GFE. She asked for 200 more for taxi and propina for her. I gave her the 200 extra and said "sufficiente". She looked like a Latina Vegas showgirl, with a body to match.

The next night I had written off these 2500 P4P nights. I found my way to the large open air dining area near the Conde area. It was like Europe, very upscale. It's where HARRY'S BAR is located for those who use guidebooks. Had an expensive dinner at a Spanish place, almost $30USD with tip for not the greatest food, but it was pleasant sitting outside and watching the scene unfold around me.

Then.....here's where it gets good (finally). As I'm walking back to my hotel on a semi-quiet steet about a block from the giant food court, I see a young black chica sitting on the wall, looking for something in her purse. She looks familiar. "Carina?" I ask. She looks up. It's the girl I met in the parque in BC. The one who I had the best GFE with while I was there. BINGO! Of course she lives in SD and visits BC when she needs some cash. We chat it up a bit, stop for a cerveza and up to my room. The pussy from BC transplanted nicely to SD the second time around. Same big clit and tight little spinner culo. The stuff dreams are made of! Wet ones!

Feeling lucky and satisfied...it was off on the final leg of the trip to Sosua, the place where all dreams come true...

#2128

[Interdude]

Anyone know somewhere in Lapsus/Remington area thats open before 9?

Those 2 only open at 9pm.

[Verde99]

I have reciently spent four nights in the DR for a first time visit and wish to share the experience. The reports will be divided into four parts as I had rented a car and spent a night each in four different locations. Each part will be posted into the appropriate DR forum section.

In summary we have:
Day 1 - Santo Domingo
Day 2 - Bonao (Other Areas)
Day 3 - Puerto Plata
Day 4 - Boca Chica

Santo Domigo

I tried to follow some good advice found in the forum to change money at the airport by taking a series of right hand turns to end up at the departures area to use the cambio counter there. But, after two delays on my flight from Miami, I did not arrive until shortly after 9PM and the counters were closed.

I had arranged for a rental car to be available the next morning and had prebooked a night at the Hilton. I found a taxi to the Hilton for $35US. I also found that the casino at the Hilton will change any amount of dollars for 32 peso per. The front desk would only agree to change $100. After settling into a very nice room with an ocean view (booked on Orbitz for 120$), I found a taxi and presented the driver with my list made from the forum information.

We went first to Modelos, where I seemed to be the only customer at that time. I ordered a 20cl bottle of JW Black as this was my first stop and needed a few drinks. There were up to 10 chicas and one caught my eye and sat down at the bar with me. I had learned from the forum that negotiations were generally refused, but this being my first stop, I had to try. After some chitchat, I was quoted 2700 from the bartender. I offered the girl 2000. She was visable interested but had to defer to "the man". The man shook his head and refused to budge. I asked for the check, complained about the lack of cooperation on his part, paid and left. His only repsonse was a smug cross-armed stare. The small bottle was 1000. In hindsight, Modelos had the best selection of girls, the least competition, and the best price I would be quoted that night.

I went Theresas which was full of clients and chicas. There were perhaps 6-8 girls not taken. I found a table and selected a girls to talk to. After a couple of beers and conversation, I had my finger on the trigger to pay the waiter a bill for the drinks and 3000 for the girl. For some reason, it occured to me to ask her if she had an ID for the hotel. I guess that at that point I had thought about checking her in and thought to ask her. I turned out that she did not have an ID. I did not quite understand all of ensuing discussion that took place between her and the man collecting the bill. But it ended with him looking at me and shrugging his shoulders. So I paid for the drinks and left.

At this point, I am a bit hazy and cannot swear to exactly where I went next. It was either Cocos or Poblitos. Whichever one it was, it had nothing that attracted me. Whichever one it wasn't, is where I ended up finally. I know this is bad reporting, but I do drink when I am out there in the field.

I am pretty sure that I ended up at Casa Poblitos with a sense of urgency to get back to the hotel. I ended up with the girl in the attached pictures for 3000 and had an enjoyable if not too memorable time back at the Hilton. Sorry for the shoddy memory at the end of this post.

The one thing I do want to comment on with her is that this was the first time that I sought to use a female condom. I had read a bit about them in the forum and had purchased some from a local adult store before I left. They were not available at the two major chain drugstores in my area and I had no time to order online.

I presented the condom in the package to her along with the instruction page so that she could study the pictures. She had never seen this before but she was not resistant to try it. After showering and some foreplay, I inserted the condom into her, trying to use logic and the instructions to get it right. The problem that I had was that upon insterting the small ring, my finger are not long enough to place it deep enough so it seems bunched up. With my penis inside, I still need two hands to make adjustments to the outter ring. I tried to forget about the problems and concentrate on what was sure to be a good sensation. After several minutes of missionary, it was time to change positions. We both looked down to see that I was actually wearing the condom. Its oversized material and semi rigid hoops were in a bunched up wad on the tip of my cock. It looked nothing like the instruction page illustrations. This was enough for her to insist on a traditional condom for continuation. I did not protest and figured that I needed some time to think about what went wrong. More about the female condom in my Bonao report.

The next morning, I enjoyed the views and the coffee at breakfast at the Hyatt. The buffet offerings were cold and uninspired. I took a taxi back to the airport to get my car.

Day 2 with be posted in the Other Areas section.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.

[FlyJets]

I love Dingo,

I went to SDQ for Tues and Weds night last week. I have not been there for a while. It was refreshing to return. My company puts us up in the Jaragua (Not girl friendly). However, we always grab a room at Hotel Villa Italia 1300 pesos $40 (AKA Hamilton) for slaying the ho's. We hit the regular places of ill repute. Casa Modelos, Casa Teresa, Casa Azul aka Rosada, Tabu, and Remington Palace.

Well, the peso has come around some, still not great but, it has come back to earth with the prices. Most of the places quote you at 3000 pesos and charge 150 pesos for beers. However, Remington Palace had prices of 2000 pesos for the evening. Walking into Remington we felt like terds being attacked by flies. It was something I have not seen for a while. Desperation on the grandest scale. It was a bit over whelming but, it was nice. There were about 25 girls in Remington, myself and a buddy. We pulled 2 girls from here and they stayed with us for the evening. Super carinoso and very GFE. I must report SDQ still lives and is worth a couple of days to visit with the girls who have migrated from the farm lands to sell their goods. The colonial zone was full of hot locals looking for some action, however, Spanish was required to pull them. We had some cocktails at Pate's Palo a 400 year old bar. Pricey but some hot locals hanging around. I could have stayed for a week. The place is great and is a must do for all. Suerte and happy hunting!

[Ford]

My response is - well said Sunny, and very well done!!

3) The education system is deplorable. It is likely the single biggest factor in determining why the DR continues to sink economically behind other countries in latin america on both a real and per capita basis.

5) The carne de res sucks! (true) But the mariscos frescos, makes up for this!

12) Rajas (bars) are a way of life in many latin american countries - ever driven thru Costa Rica, Nicaragua? They aren't always indicative of a high crime area. Its a cultural thing, if everybody on the block except you has bars - where's a burglar going to go? Its kind of like keeping up with the Joneses.

All round excellent Sunny!

Yours is a report of distinction!

[Viper Spitz]

Does anyone have experience at the Hotel Napolitano in Santo Domingo?

Do visitors need to register? A visitor's fee? Please e-mail me here with any info.

Thanks in advance and happy mongering!

[James Zz]

In my frequent and extensive trips thru the DR I have noticed that in large measure, the girls are colorblind- they don't see white or black they only see one color - green!

The socioeconomic conditions and the substandard level of education in the country make many of the girls rely on the help and companionship of tourists as a viable and consistent source of income with which they can use to support themselves and their family.

If you want to meet a sexy Dominicana than much more important than the color of your skin is your ability to communicate competently in the Spanish language.

If you can understand and express yourself in the Spanish language then the girls in the DR (regardless of their skin tone or yours) will see you as a potential and viable BF or long term love interest. If you cannot then it makes little difference if you look like Brad Pitt or Denzel Washington - you will be nothing more than a quick "payday" and a one night stand.

Cheers.

Mr Ford. Well said. You summed it up. You would be a interesting person to meet in SDQ. SDQ has so many beautiful women. Good food, night life.

Color, age does not matter. Many of these girls are very intelligent. Many of these "beauties" are the main providers for their families. They build the homes, make the major decisions, provide for the family,extended family and the bario.

Like the old song "girls just want to have fun". DR girls love to have fun.

When they are happy and have fun they make you very very happy.

[Viper Spitz]

Does anyone have experience at the hotel delta in Santo Domingo? www.hoteldelta.com.do

Do visitors need to register there with their cedulas? A visitor's fee? Please e-mail me with any info. Thanks in advance.

[Grand Pollo]

18. No. use rubbers. Make sure they have THEIR cedula. The hotel will.

[Cork Sucker]

just curious,what is lawful agreeable age in DR? Do girls carry "health cards"?

[Grand Pollo]

If you can understand and express yourself in the Spanish language then the girls in the DR (regardless of their skin tone or yours) will see you as a potential and viable BF or long term love interest. If you cannot then it makes little difference if you look like Brad Pitt or Denzel Washington - you will be nothing more than a quick "payday" and a one night stand.

cheers...........

I think you and I share this knowledge but you are flogging a dead horse 99% of the time, Ford. I know 15+ year guys to the DR who know at best, 100 words of Spanish. But they lust after the college girls too (without luck). Money is not everything in LatAm minus street girls and casas/MP's.

The irony? One of the two current regulars speaks fluent English and of course, Spanish. I have to ask her to speak Spanish to me.

[Ford]

In my frequent and extensive trips thru the DR I have noticed that in large measure, the girls are colorblind- they don't see white or black they only see one color - green!

The socioeconomic conditions and the substandard level of education in the country make many of the girls rely on the help and companionship of tourists as a viable and consistent source of income with which they can use to support themselves and their family.

If you want to meet a sexy Dominicana than much more important than the color of your skin is your ability to communicate competently in the Spanish language.

If you can understand and express yourself in the Spanish language then the girls in the DR (regardless of their skin tone or yours) will see you as a potential and viable BF or long term love interest. If you cannot then it makes little difference if you look like Brad Pitt or Denzel Washington - you will be nothing more than a quick "payday" and a one night stand.

cheers...........