Santo Domingo

[Tempoecorto]

4. in advertising or in speech-giving, the most important thing is "to know your target audience". do i want to fuck intelligent women? so that after heavy banging we can smoke cigarettes and talk about sartre and existentialism? oh yes you bet. (by the way, kudos to tempoecorto. how in the world did you meet a dominican woman who later went to the book fair? even american women don't read books, not to mention go to a book fair.) however, once i decided to lock up my "dates" prior to my travel, thus got locked in with cupid dot com. my target audience is mostly uneducated women who want money! i just got home now after going to a chamber music recital tonight. do you think any cupid chicas want me to explain my preference for period instruments? not likely!

whoa. what next, a post-coital conversation on monet or simone de beauvoir or perhaps even antonio stradivari? lol.

i have decided long back i enjoy sex with women with whom i have some chemistry. language comes handy in that. one reason why i really did not care for asia during my long stint there was the linguistic barrier. outside of singapore, no one can speak english well and i could not speak thai or bahasa. chemistry as it so happens in my case, begins with having some brain (mine included.). one indicator for that for me is the language skills of people i chat with. at this point of time, i can fairly quickly make a judgement by seeing things such as spelling and usage of atypical words by a woman (dominicans often have very poor spelling). just to give an example, today a woman i just started chatting with, asked me what i was looking for. i said: "beauty and brain". she came back with "si hay muchas aqui con cabezas vacias" (empty-head). it turned out she is well into her degree. whether she will be finish that is another story but my point was that her quick retort was an indicator that she has potential. from my sneaky perspective, lol.

do i not then enjoy the quickies with whoever? you bet! but over a period of two years or so, the long term contacts are always those that have survived that test of chemistry. do these smart women expect more out of the interaction? sure they do. we all crave for some stability in an uncertain world and theirs is a lot more than mine but i have been upfront. no empty promises but that of here and now. if they do not accept it, i still respect that and go my own way and so the success rate is not high. i know a young woman almost done with her law degree at a top catholic university there and she writes almost fluent english (her speaking is not good enough) and actually did discuss socrates with me. she expected more and i told her i cannot promise that and so, so far we have not shared a bed. perhaps never will but she would chat me up on whatsapp every now and then with her existential angst that are hard for me to resolve even though i sure wished i could.

[OldKool]

I enjoy SD but it can not touch Sosua for sport fucking and not much to do in SD during the week You need to have your stuff together in SD not for rookys. There are plenty of SWs and girls in SD. E no longer has a monger card. This forum is dedicated to fucking putas and any loose booty hanging around. If your 40 plus ass is waiting for 20 something well educated girls to fuck you get a comfortable chair. You going to be waiting a long time.

For your first time you did great. What you did was skip little league and play pony league. Everything is a lot faster in SD. I do Sosua and SD on my trips.

[QUOTE=Parkinsons; 1431241]I respect your thinking. I don't see contradictions in it. Some have equated your not giving non-pros money as unsympathetic, but I don't think so. In a way you're giving them actual respect as independent women, not relying on men to get money. I get that.

All this recent self-congratulation "we are a dying breed because we respect women" is as hollow as saying "we support this and that charity because we're doing it for the children". I think we all respect women here (I haven't read any posts advocating beating women, so far). A man doesn't get a lot of pussies without the women feeling that he treats them well. Any more sanctimonious and I'm going to read about "beauty is only skin-deep","I like my chicas for their personality and attitude on life, regardless of their looks".

I am an agnostic in whether to give or not to give money / gifts to chicas. I'm a beginner in mongering in DR, and I'm fine tuning my game as I am developing it myself. My thought process, going into my last trip, was this:

1. My days off from work were limited. My trip was only 5 days / 4 nights. As much as I'd like to waltz in a local joint in SD and charm a different woman into bed every night, I could not affoUOTE]

[Parkinsons]

i still stick to there being no reason to give them gifts. if a chick is going to like me then she is going to like me for me. i don't feel the need to lure anyone with gifts.

granted. the real reason a hooker is with you is for money. but every female is not a hooker.

my girl has a college degree and a job. maybe if you are with a hoodrat, then they will be with you for money. but i don't roll like that.

i respect your thinking. i don't see contradictions in it. some have equated your not giving non-pros money as unsympathetic, but i don't think so. in a way you're giving them actual respect as independent women, not relying on men to get money. i get that.

all this recent self-congratulation "we are a dying breed because we respect women" is as hollow as saying "we support this and that charity because we're doing it for the children". i think we all respect women here (i haven't read any posts advocating beating women, so far). a man doesn't get a lot of pussies without the women feeling that he treats them well. any more sanctimonious and i'm going to read about "beauty is only skin-deep","i like my chicas for their personality and attitude on life, regardless of their looks".

i am an agnostic in whether to give or not to give money / gifts to chicas. i'm a pragmatist. i'm a beginner in mongering in dr, and i'm fine tuning my game as i am developing it myself. my thought process, going into my last trip, was this:

1. my days off from work were limited. my trip was only 5 days / 4 nights. as much as i'd like to waltz in a local joint in sd and charm a different woman into bed every night, i could not afford to play around with the low probability of success. let's say i came up empty after chasing girls all morning and afternoon, my only resort for the remainder of that day is to go to a casa or wait till 3am when a chick gets off work from a casa. i would've wasted a whole damn day! once i identified my need for solid "dates", i looked towards cupid dot com for solutions.

2. on cupid dot com i did look for chicks who would like me for who i am. not for lack of trying, i started one and a half month prior to my trip. i chronicled my attempt here in the sd thread. i met a few with whom i had good conversation and / or "mutual admiration" (or so i thought) ; but they all fizzled out. i then was awaken to the realization that cupid dot com is just a marketplace where foreign men make offer and dominican women try to win the bid. by then my trip was fast approaching and i knew i had to come up with a different strategy over the "slow talk and relationship building".

3. i just cut to the chase and sent messages to the ones i wanted, even the ones i have spoken to before but really didn't get anywhere, with the message being "hey i'm coming to town let me know if you want me to pick up something for you from the us". bingo! i got a lot more responses; if a girl is interested in my offer, only then did i do the relationship building thing; or more precisely, ironing out our deal / dates. i don't prefer this, but such is the nature of the women on cupid dot com. some of you are going to say no they are all not like that. sure, but that would be the exception, not the rule.

4. in advertising or in speech-giving, the most important thing is "to know your target audience". do i want to fuck intelligent women? so that after heavy banging we can smoke cigarettes and talk about sartre and existentialism? oh yes you bet. (by the way, kudos to tempoecorto. how in the world did you meet a dominican woman who later went to the book fair? even american women don't read books, not to mention go to a book fair.) however, once i decided to lock up my "dates" prior to my travel, thus got locked in with cupid dot com. my target audience is mostly uneducated women who want money! i just got home now after going to a chamber music recital tonight. do you think any cupid chicas want me to explain my preference for period instruments? not likely! for my next trip, hopefully it will be a longer trip, and my spanish much improved, so i can confidently take a chance on making impromptu conquests, and pick targets that are not only limited to uneducated women. (but only for the purpose of avoiding the continued harassment of rfm. if a woman is hot and good in bed, i don't really care if she has a ged or a master's degree.)

(edited to add one more point)
5. speaking of target audience - some dude who posted a month ago boasted about his good looks and ability to pick up free pussies and proclaimed p4p is for losers. i found it incredulous at the time more so because of his odious put-down of fellow mongers who participate in p4p. now that i've given it some more thoughts, i think his experience was entirely possible, although not necessarily because of his own talent. he spoke of picking up chicks at the discos/clubs in the tourist area - is it possible that the women who hang out there do so specifically for the purpose of romancing foreign men? for example, i have heard that japanese women who have fetish for american men (particularly black men) will hang out at the clubs near american bases. it was then, easy pickings for american servicemen. in other words, that dude found the right place where his target audience is actually clamoring for guys like him. or conversely, he is their target. for my next trip, i want to try out my ability in settings where i am completely disadvantaged, just to test my game - for example, those street parties on avenida espana where only locals participate and there are equal number of young dominican men and young dominican women. if i could walk away with a hot young dominican women then i think my game is complete.

pictured below are cupid chica 1 on the beach (san cristobal chica who dipped on me) and fully-clothed cupid chica 2 (who in fact was the online chica's twin sister, later revealed).

[BoricuaOnline]

i am having a tough time finding a hotel or hotel condo in santo domingo that has in room jacuzzi, guest friendly, high speed internet in room preferably wired, i noticed wired works better than wifi on very high bandwidth type usage like skype, and fitness center. working distance to restaurants. i am open to it being a hotel or apartment. i have scan the forum and nothing is a complete match. any help will be appreciated.

hotel bq is guest friendly and have a few rooms with a private terrace / balcony equipped with jacuzzi. many cabanas (short term rental motels) in the city have in room jacuzzis.

[Cagep1967]

i am having a tough time finding a hotel or hotel condo in santo domingo that has in room jacuzzi, guest friendly, high speed internet in room preferably wired, i noticed wired works better than wifi on very high bandwidth type usage like skype, and fitness center. working distance to restaurants. i am open to it being a hotel or apartment. i have scan the forum and nothing is a complete match. any help will be appreciated.

hotel bq on sarasota, has rooms with jacuzzi's, good wifi don't think wired, guest friendly, work out room, restaurants nearby, good breakfast included. used to have a girl stroll outside. also a small roof pool and jacuzzi, with a very trendy bar and good view of the city.

[Lopkx]

i am having a tough time finding a hotel or hotel condo in santo domingo that has in room jacuzzi, guest friendly, high speed internet in room preferably wired, i noticed wired works better than wifi on very high bandwidth type usage like skype, and fitness center. working distance to restaurants. i am open to it being a hotel or apartment. i have scan the forum and nothing is a complete match. any help will be appreciated.

[Charles Pooter]

A guy will come out to the farm with a pick up truck and pay about 5 pesos each for the mangoes.

They are currently selling them off the back of trucks in Pto Pta at 12 for 50 pesos, so yours must be larger ones!

[Tempoecorto]

We had our first valentines day and she bought me a coffee cup (I drink a lot of coffee) and a picture frame with a picture of the 2 of us together. Probably cost her 200 pesos. I actually wept.

That was touching. Both her gesture and your reaction!

To me, giving is more fun and indeed am not at all comfortable with people buying me gifts. And more so from people who can ill afford. Recently a woman I know in the DR told me, she bought me a book at a book fair. I appreciated the gesture but not the paying part. She barely earns a living.

[Mr Gogo]

My main girl, who I've been with for the last 4 1/2 years. When I met her she was cleaning houses for 10K per month (her sister is the head of the house for a very rich family).

We had our first valentines day and she bought me a coffee cup (I drink a lot of coffee) and a picture frame with a picture of the 2 of us together. Probably cost her 200 pesos. I actually wept.

I am not comfortable with people buying me gifts, my girl puts great thought into hers.

My mother came to visit and became "friends" with the neighbors, each bought her a gift (small decoration for the house) , when she could not carry them back in her luggage, she was ready to throw them away. I hit the roof. With this money, I'm sure they could feed their family for 1 day or more, and they decided to spend it to buy you a gift.

I never take advantage of someone poor. I respect everyone. (unless they demonstrate to me that they do not deserve my respect)

Bravo Cape, you get back the Karma you give. I was telling Frannie a few days ago, that the transition is almost complete. The game has gotten dirty. Its a business transaction with hardcore players.

I told Frannie we were a dying breed, people who craved a positive experience from basic human respect. My grandad owned a strip club so I'm always going to have passion for the ladys who sell sex and fantasy.

[Cagep1967]

I could never let a poor girl spend her hard earned money on me. I have several no pro girls in the DR. They make on average 6k p a month. Do your girls think they are girl friend or potential husband, Are you being honest with them or using them. Just curious.

My main girl, who I've been with for the last 4 1/2 years. When I met her she was cleaning houses for 10K per month (her sister is the head of the house for a very rich family).

We had our first valentines day and she bought me a coffee cup (I drink a lot of coffee) and a picture frame with a picture of the 2 of us together. Probably cost her 200 pesos. I actually wept.

I am not comfortable with people buying me gifts, my girl puts great thought into hers.

My mother came to visit and became "friends" with the neighbors, each bought her a gift (small decoration for the house) , when she could not carry them back in her luggage, she was ready to throw them away. I hit the roof. With this money, I'm sure they could feed their family for 1 day or more, and they decided to spend it to buy you a gift.

I never take advantage of someone poor. I respect everyone. (unless they demonstrate to me that they do not deserve my respect)

[Frannie]

Granted. The real reason a hooker Is with you is for money. But every female is not a hooker. I went to my girlfriend's house in Higuey for 3 days two weeks ago. After I picked up my rental car I went to Wendy's 240 pesos. I picked up a chick on the street who had gotten off work at a resort and went to her house (see report) 500 pesos. I put 1500 pesos in gas in the rental car on the way back to the airport. My rental car was $62. And that is all the money I spent on my trip.

MI told her aunt that from now on I will be buying my mangoes at the store. I see why they are so expensive.

A guy will come out to the farm with a pick up truck and pay about 5 pesos each for the mangoes.

I am still rather sceptical about these claims. I doubt whether this professional woman makes much money by US standards even if she is a doctor, dentist, or lawyer. Possibly she is looking for someone to sponsor her for a fiancee visa to the US where she could make much more money. Or maybe she is a nymphomaniac and also has a string of local guys whom she takes to the cabanas at her expense. Or maybe Mr. Enternational has movie star looks that just make normal women lose their senses!

What does she say her long term ambitions are?

[OldKool]

I could never let a poor girl spend her hard earned money on me. I have several no pro girls in the DR. They make on average 6k p a month. Do your girls think they are girl friend or potential husband, Are you being honest with them or using them. Just curious.

Granted. The real reason a hooker Is with you is for money. But every female is not a hooker. I went to my girlfriend's house in Higuey for 3 days two weeks ago. After I picked up my rental car I went to Wendy's 240 pesos. I picked up a chick on the street who had gotten off work at a resort and went to her house (see report) 500 pesos. I put 1500 pesos in gas in the rental car on the way back to the airport. My rental car was $62. And that is all the money I spent on my trip.

My girl bought food and cooked, bought liquor and made drinks, and paid I guess 2000 pesos for a cabana (there was a sign on the wall that said 1000 pesos / 4 hours and we were there overnight). I begged her to stay at the house the first night but she insisted on a cabana. She had me stop at the ATM on the way. When we got there and walked in the Jacuzzi was filled with water and flowers. She said there is your hot water. There were also flowers all over the bed. The next day we went to her aunt's house in the country / mountains. We crossed a creek and barbed wire to get to a field to gather a sack of about 80 pounds of mangoes and had to drag those beotches back. I told her aunt that from now on I will be buying my mangoes at the store. I see why they are so expensive. She said the country life ain't so easy is it. Then the night before I left we were fucking and she picked up her phone. I'm thinking she is about to send some texts, but starts taking pictures her ass off. I was like you damn freak!

My girl has a college degree and a job. Maybe if you are with a hoodrat, then they will be with you for money. But I don't roll like that.

[Mr Enternational]

What gets me are guys that complain about hardened Putas but are the main hardening agents.

Amen to that. They claim they are running away from the bs in their home countries, just to go elsewhere and create the same bs they claim they are trying to get away from.

[Mr Enternational]

Your funny. Gifts are nice but the real reason the chicas are with you is for the money. If you think that are with you for you then you are fooling yourself. Time to wake up and smell the coffee.

Granted. The real reason a hooker Is with you is for money. But every female is not a hooker. I went to my girlfriend's house in Higuey for 3 days two weeks ago. After I picked up my rental car I went to Wendy's 240 pesos. I picked up a chick on the street who had gotten off work at a resort and went to her house (see report) 500 pesos. I put 1500 pesos in gas in the rental car on the way back to the airport. My rental car was $62. And that is all the money I spent on my trip.

My girl bought food and cooked, bought liquor and made drinks, and paid I guess 2000 pesos for a cabana (there was a sign on the wall that said 1000 pesos / 4 hours and we were there overnight). I begged her to stay at the house the first night but she insisted on a cabana. She had me stop at the ATM on the way. When we got there and walked in the Jacuzzi was filled with water and flowers. She said there is your hot water. There were also flowers all over the bed. The next day we went to her aunt's house in the country / mountains. We crossed a creek and barbed wire to get to a field to gather a sack of about 80 pounds of mangoes and had to drag those beotches back. I told her aunt that from now on I will be buying my mangoes at the store. I see why they are so expensive. She said the country life ain't so easy is it. Then the night before I left we were fucking and she picked up her phone. I'm thinking she is about to send some texts, but starts taking pictures her ass off. I was like you damn freak!

My girl has a college degree and a job. Maybe if you are with a hoodrat, then they will be with you for money. But I don't roll like that.

[Alex Deuce]

Great story. If I am supposed to meet up with a chick then we usually plan when and where beforehand. I would have even paid for her taxi from the bus station to the hotel I am staying in, rather than go through all the trouble searching and fighting traffic trying to get there to pick her up. After I have seen that she is willing to do her part then I will go to the ends of the earth traveling to her town or whatnot. I tell them that I am a tourist, this is your country not mine, and I don't speak the language well. So it is easier for you to come to me.

I wouldn't speculate on the reason she left though. Why does everyone here swear that every chica has a boyfriend or pimp? Anybody can walk into a casa or get a girl to come to them and fuck. Boring. But to rent a car and drive all around to unknown places, going through unexpected shit like that is what it's all about. That is what stories are made of. I still stick to there being no reason to give them gifts. If a chick is going to like me then she is going to like me for me. I don't feel the need to lure anyone with gifts.

What I have found is that most don't have a bf or pimp. Hence part of the financial issue. If they do. 8-10 times they are trying to leave him and the situation as all they are doing is leeching. Most of the time its them, their moms, kids and a few siblings grinding it out looking for assistance in any form available like most struggling persons.

What gets me are guys that complain about hardened Putas but are the main hardening agents.