Santo Domingo

[Coolie High]

I mostly agree with this, taken from another site.

"Relationships between Dominican men and women seem strange and unfair to us, but it is their society and that's' how it works, like it or not. Men have the upper hand in all walks of life in the DR. Women have achieved many great things in the DR, but what is most important is how you assimilate your values while visiting and dating in the DR while easing up on the 'everyone is equal' concept that you were raised with.

Let those who date and have relationships with Dominicans tell you that you cannot take your western sensibilities and transfer them to the DR. Many men feel that showering Dominican girlfriends with gifts and doing everything for them and their family is a foolproof way to win their hearts, but that may work against you, as these women are not accustomed to dating this type of man.

A Dominican woman relies on the man to make the decisions-this may seem like weakness on their part but that is how it is. You may feel you are liberating her from this type of machismo, but in reality it may come across as weakness and reinforces the stereotype that western men are pushovers and let their women dominate them. They will resent you for showing weakness and not keeping a firm hand in the relationship because that is how they were raised. This may seem provincial to us, but it is the reality.

This does not mean that you have to be abusive and outwardly promiscuous. There is a middle ground that you have to come to grips with that may be alien to you. Learn it and you will have a much easier time."

Yeah like I said, if your not an ALPHA-male take charge type of guy stay the fuck out of DR. These honeys will test you at every turn. So since Carrib shared his story of honeys testing you ill share mine. Prime example is the current situation I'm dealing with my girl Sade from my report.

So where talking, saying how much we love each other, calling each other esposa / esposo etc and guess what she ask me for money for food. I pulled a Jimmy Swaggert (I HAVE SIN) and sent her my first ever WU payment. Cost me around 3000pesos (please have mercy my fellow monger brethren for I know I have sin LOL)

Anyway time goes by and she gets bold and ask me to help pay her rent. Which is $250 dollars. This what I text her.

(use google translate if necessary)

CH:NO lo puedo, mi amor! Tenemos habla sobre dinero antes de cuando me en Sosua. No voy enviar dinero cuando tienes sexo con otro hombres. Que necesita para parada trabajando Classicos and encontra trabajo real.

Sade:mi amor que lo que tu me dise llo no he ido mas a declasico why tu lo sabe.

CH:cuando vuelvo, voy dar dinero.

Sade. K amor pero tusabe que tongo que pagar la casa, teamo mucho.

CH:Me sabes, mi amor. No toma fotos con gringo and usar condon cada vez con sexo. Comprende? Te amo tambien.

Soo time goes by I don't hear from her like when I sent her that WU money LOL and she finally texts me. I text he back, ask her how is she and the kids. She gets bold again and instead of asking me for rent money she goes and tries to ask me for money to buy food which in her mind work last time. I didn't even respond back.

She's mad but she'll get over it. We'll see each other again and we'll play the I Love you game all over. Keep your monger game strong gents

[BoricuaOnline]

One thing to remember is that once a chica starts disrespecting you, you need to walk away or do something to regain the power in the relationship. Personally, acting like a Dominican and beating her ass wasn't an option, it was best to cut her ass off. .

I mostly agree with this, taken from another site.

"Relationships between Dominican men and women seem strange and unfair to us, but it is their society and that's' how it works, like it or not. Men have the upper hand in all walks of life in the DR. Women have achieved many great things in the DR, but what is most important is how you assimilate your values while visiting and dating in the DR while easing up on the 'everyone is equal' concept that you were raised with.

Let those who date and have relationships with Dominicans tell you that you cannot take your western sensibilities and transfer them to the DR. Many men feel that showering Dominican girlfriends with gifts and doing everything for them and their family is a foolproof way to win their hearts, but that may work against you, as these women are not accustomed to dating this type of man.

A Dominican woman relies on the man to make the decisions-this may seem like weakness on their part but that is how it is. You may feel you are liberating her from this type of machismo, but in reality it may come across as weakness and reinforces the stereotype that western men are pushovers and let their women dominate them. They will resent you for showing weakness and not keeping a firm hand in the relationship because that is how they were raised. This may seem provincial to us, but it is the reality.

This does not mean that you have to be abusive and outwardly promiscuous. There is a middle ground that you have to come to grips with that may be alien to you. Learn it and you will have a much easier time."

[Jaosousa]

I am scheduling my final trip of the year. Priceline has some great packages. The problem is are the hotels chica friendly, Europa looks good is it chica friendly, Hodelpa Caribe Colonial

Priceline I used one time and never again, for an All Inclusive Hotel in Samana, near Las Terrenas, DR. I prepaid Priceline, got to the hotel and the hotel had nothing from priceline showing I paid. I had to pay again and straighten out the billing when I returned to the states. Some travel sites for hotels in Santo Domingo don't show you the price with the 26% in taxes, some sites only give the total price including the 26% in hotel taxes info towards the end of the booking process (All Inclusive Hotels in DR don't charge the 26% in taxes).

Europa I was told charges a guest fee, when you enter with chicas. Boricua Online has stated that Hotel Napolitano is chica friendly with no guest fee. Hotel Mercure has a guest fee. Hotel Palacio has a guest fee. Hotel Venezia some times has a guest fee.

Hotel El Embajador was multiple chica friendly when I stayed there years ago, with no extra guest fee. Dominican Fiesta Hotel might be guest friendly. Hotel Barcelo is chica friendly if the chica is not dark skin, otherwise a high fee. Clarion is guest friendly if the chicas look decent, but you might get stopped at the Clarion.

Hodelpa Caribe Colonial Hotel, I stayed at one time, checked in with the GF, so I don't know their pro guest chica policy. Small rooms, A / C was not overly strong, small elevator, breakfast included was OK, small parking lot for cars, good location around the corner from the Hard Rock Cafe.

Before my last trip, before booking a package deal on Orbitz, I had some friends in Santo Domingo call various hotels in Santo Domingo and ask them about their guest policies.

Before you book a hotel, you may want to send that hotel an email and ask them what is their guest policy. I was told guests could visit me at the Barcelo (on the phone) , most had no problem visiting, but a few at night, some workers at the Barcelo had a problem with and said I would have to pay a high fee to allow them in. If you send an email asking about the rules and regs, you may want to ask about any fees for visitors. (reglas=rules, gratis=free, precio=price, visitantes=visitors). Cual es la regla por visitantes de quiren visitarme en el hotel? =What is the rule for visitors who want to visit me in the hotel? (my Spanish is not perfect). Gratis? =Free, Precio? =Price, Permitan? =Allowed, No Permitan? =Not Allowed. Having something in writing from the hotel, might help, if you encounter some security guard or other hotel worker at night who busts your balls about allowing in some chica. If you have an email from the hotel spelling out the rules and a worker at the hotel doesn't adhere to those rules, you can turn around and bust the balls of the hotel for not adhering to the email they sent you.

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[OldKool]

I am scheduling my final trip of the year. Priceline has some great packages. The problem is are the hotels chica friendly, Europa looks good is it chica friendly, Hodelpa Caribe Colonial

[OldKool]

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Excellent advise. You have to understand the relationship. We love the sex and attention they love the money and if you get real lucky she will also like the sex. I am parting ways with my first novia. I am sure I made every mistake possible. You pay for your education. I am closing the relationship tonite. However I am leaving the door open for futur pops with her the sex is great. These girls are not falling in love with our great looks. Dominican men like their women are above average when it comes to appearance. The women like our wealth and how we carry that. If you have some personality it is possible to have a good relationship GFE. My Novia gave my old ass a very interesting year in what had been a boring existance. Who Knew. I now understand why some guys preferr wilding. It is no strings which has its advantages. You pay for GFE one way or the other but at the end of the day it is what you want.

QUOTE=Mardonius; 1205379][/QUOTE]I would say you can have the girlfriend in the DR and be realistic at the same time and you set it how its going to be. There is a advantage to having the see.

Hica there anxiously waiting to get on all four (LOL) when you come every two month because its familarity, but at the same time its not old because you are not hitting it enough for it to become old and stale.

Of course with that the chica is going to want some help and what I would do if it came to that was tell chica I give you a certain amount each month it could be 60 or 70 USA dollars or whatever you not the chica feel is enough that is still a lot of money for most of these chicas and tell that is all you are getting from me. I will tell her I do not care what you do with if you can give it to family or your dominican man whatever I do not care just when I come there you need to be all about me bottomline. I also would tell her that I do not want to hear about crisis or family members getting sick and other bs that is all you are getting and the minute you start asking for anything above what I said its over deal off.

I actually did that with a mexican chica about 9 to 10 yrs ago and it worked perfect the chica was happy and content with that and she was smart enough to not mess it up with any begging above what I said I was going to do. I really stressed that I did not want to hear her ask for anything more than that and I think she got my point. Did she have a man of course but she really took care of me and I never asked her did she have a man or men and She eventually got married to another American, but I still hear from her every once in awile. Now I do not know if that would work in the DR and with every chica but if I ever get one that I wanted to be my so called number 1 DR chica that is how it would have to go.[/QUOTE]

[Jaosousa]

No arguement here you are correct it is too much especially when you really do not have to and I am glad after that first and only casa chica I found that out.

Being buzzed from alcohol late at night, factored in me paying $100. The first chica at 305 endeared herself to me while I sat with her on the sofa in 305 late one night (after many beers). There were three 25 year old white guys in 305 that night. One of those guys danced with and felt up just about every chica in the place. The three white guys were in a group. One of the white guys was drop dead drunk and eventually laid on a sofa and went to sleep. I was sitting at the sofa with the chica, she was massaging my leg and my junk. She was calm and nice, not pushy, pleasant chica, so I said fuck it, paid the $100 and took her to the hotel barcelo, she stayed till the next afternoon and was fun, long nice nipples, nice lips.

The second chica was in Sky High, I was just drunk that night (vodka, red wine, beer and maybe shots of tequila). The chicas are attractive and know how to get me going.

Sabor has mongered in many places and he was impressed with some of the chicas in the casas.

[Mardonius]

I just cut loose my novia. Had her for year. Helped her get on her feet and she still lied to me. When I discovered lies she out acted Elizeeth Taylor with her outrage. [ It was difficult for me because I really like the little puta.

QUOTE=Carrib; 1205027]One thing to remember is that once a chica starts disrespecting you, you need to walk away or do something to regain the power in the relationship. Personally, acting like a Dominican and beating her ass wasn't an option, it was best to cut her ass off. They are indeed complicated (funny she called me complicated as well haha) creatures who see nothing wrong with some of these actions. In DR it is normal to settle debts and favors with sex and worse, some Dominican dudes will pimp their novias to gringos, friends, and their bosses. So when you send your sweetie Western Union money, you could be supporting her Dominican chulo instead. I suspected as much with my ex, she has money coming in monthly from the father of her daughter, he pays for the house. I know that she worked at least 4 promo jobs in August, at 4-5K a pop, thats another 16-20K pesos. I went to her house didn't see any expensive items and very little clothes, so where was the money going? She's either a degenerate gambler or giving all or most of her money to her chulo.

We also need to be realistic, unless you can fly to DR at least once a month to see her, you should expect that your novia is fucking others while you are gone. I tried to see her once a month, but mostly I wanted to get a good sense before I got in too deep emotionally and perhaps financially. It is best to encourage an open relationship, you can see other women while she is allowed to roam free while you are gone. It also lightens the load, someone else can take care of her ass while you are gone and she will not feel the need to lie and deceive you.

Lastly, they EXPECT you to be a dog and have multiple women, yes they'll get jealous, throw fits but it is part of the game and their cultural upbringing. For the most part, they don't want to lose face to another chica. Each time you lose one or let one go, there's another just around the corner waiting to step in. On the subject of money, whereas it isn't advisable to simply send funds monthly (she survived 20 plus years before she met you, she will find a way) it is though customary to help defray her expenses associated with seeing you: her taxi / bus funds, hair salon, feeding her and a gift as a token of your appreciation should be standard.

Happy hunting gents.

[/QUOTE]I would say you can have the girlfriend in the DR and be realistic at the same time and you set it how its going to be. There is a advantage to having the chica there anxiously waiting to get on all four (LOL) when you come every two month because its familarity, but at the same time its not old because you are not hitting it enough for it to become old and stale.

Of course with that the chica is going to want some help and what I would do if it came to that was tell chica I give you a certain amount each month it could be 60 or 70 USA dollars or whatever you not the chica feel is enough that is still a lot of money for most of these chicas and tell that is all you are getting from me. I will tell her I do not care what you do with if you can give it to family or your dominican man whatever I do not care just when I come there you need to be all about me bottomline. I also would tell her that I do not want to hear about crisis or family members getting sick and other bs that is all you are getting and the minute you start asking for anything above what I said its over deal off.

I actually did that with a mexican chica about 9 to 10 yrs ago and it worked perfect the chica was happy and content with that and she was smart enough to not mess it up with any begging above what I said I was going to do. I really stressed that I did not want to hear her ask for anything more than that and I think she got my point. Did she have a man of course but she really took care of me and I never asked her did she have a man or men and She eventually got married to another American, but I still hear from her every once in awile. Now I do not know if that would work in the DR and with every chica but if I ever get one that I wanted to be my so called number 1 DR chica that is how it would have to go.

[Mardonius]

Paying US$100 for TLN is too much money, period. Forget the US comparison rate, because you are not in the US. A friend of mine that I met only makes about US$100 per month working for Politur. I give her RD$1, 000 when she visits. She gets to be treated well, gets to use HOT water to shower, and sleeps in a warm bed off the floor. I have seen her house and met the family. You do not have to use the casas, just go to a store on The Conde, start talking, and invite the girl for dinner.

No arguement here you are correct it is too much especially when you really do not have to and I am glad after that first and only casa chica I found that out.

[OldKool]

I just cut loose my novia. Had her for year. Helped her get on her feet and she still lied to me. When I discovered lies she out acted Elizeeth Taylor with her outrage. [ It was difficult for me because I really like the little puta.

QUOTE=Carrib; 1205027]One thing to remember is that once a chica starts disrespecting you, you need to walk away or do something to regain the power in the relationship. Personally, acting like a Dominican and beating her ass wasn't an option, it was best to cut her ass off. They are indeed complicated (funny she called me complicated as well haha) creatures who see nothing wrong with some of these actions. In DR it is normal to settle debts and favors with sex and worse, some Dominican dudes will pimp their novias to gringos, friends, and their bosses. So when you send your sweetie Western Union money, you could be supporting her Dominican chulo instead. I suspected as much with my ex, she has money coming in monthly from the father of her daughter, he pays for the house. I know that she worked at least 4 promo jobs in August, at 4-5K a pop, thats another 16-20K pesos. I went to her house didn't see any expensive items and very little clothes, so where was the money going? She's either a degenerate gambler or giving all or most of her money to her chulo.

We also need to be realistic, unless you can fly to DR at least once a month to see her, you should expect that your novia is fucking others while you are gone. I tried to see her once a month, but mostly I wanted to get a good sense before I got in too deep emotionally and perhaps financially. It is best to encourage an open relationship, you can see other women while she is allowed to roam free while you are gone. It also lightens the load, someone else can take care of her ass while you are gone and she will not feel the need to lie and deceive you.

Lastly, they EXPECT you to be a dog and have multiple women, yes they'll get jealous, throw fits but it is part of the game and their cultural upbringing. For the most part, they don't want to lose face to another chica. Each time you lose one or let one go, there's another just around the corner waiting to step in. On the subject of money, whereas it isn't advisable to simply send funds monthly (she survived 20 plus years before she met you, she will find a way) it is though customary to help defray her expenses associated with seeing you: her taxi / bus funds, hair salon, feeding her and a gift as a token of your appreciation should be standard.

Happy hunting gents.[/QUOTE]

[Jaosousa]

I'm arriving on Sunday at 12 pm in sd. Is everything open on sundays or is it closed? My main concern would be at night trying to get a chica at a bar or strip joint. If everything is closed what are my options on getting a chica? Also, should I bring condoms from the us or can I buy them in sd. I'd rather buy them in sd but if they arent like US comdoms ill just buy them here. Is BBBJ and greek the standard or do most girls not provide this service in the DR?

The casas will be open Sunday. GBP is closed Sunday. Should be freelancers and streetwalkers out and about everyday.

Sunday is nice and quiet in Santo Domingo, with much less traffic.

You will be staying at Jaguar, you can take a stroll on Sunday afternoon after you check-in. With your back to the front door of the Jaguar, walk to your left (south, towards the Sea) , after about two blocks you will come to avenida independencia, to your left on the corner will be manolos restaurant, across the street will be the rear entrance to the Marriott Jaragua Hotel and Casino. Make a right on Independencia and walk about a block and you will come to Lapsus. Continue past Lapsus (walking west) and at the next street make a left and walk down the block and you will come to La Parada.

At Manolos you can make a left and walk east about 3-4 blocks to get to casas on avenida pasteur. 305 is on independencia 1/2 block east of pasteur. If you continue walking east on independencia eventually you will reach zona colonial.

[Grandnash84]

I'm arriving on Sunday at 12 pm in sd. Is everything open on sundays or is it closed? My main concern would be at night trying to get a chica at a bar or strip joint. If everything is closed what are my options on getting a chica? Also, should I bring condoms from the us or can I buy them in sd. I'd rather buy them in sd but if they arent like US comdoms ill just buy them here. Is BBBJ and greek the standard or do most girls not provide this service in the DR?

[Revere]

I agree with what you said carrib, but what sucks is you have to be mean and tough. Unfortunately when you are that way with a chica she now respects you. There was an article in the New York Post yesterday and it talked about why a girl who liked bad boys and the reason it gave was that her father was a softie and in her dreams growing she craved a tough, arrogant man. So, I guess with a lot of these chicas either there is no father around or if he is there he might not be doing much so they want someone who is tough talking making plans even though in most cases they are full of sh*t, which I suspect a lot of the guys over there fall under that category. Of course, that explains being nice and really caring for her might backfire. So, you are right you just got to walk away and keep it moving. The funny thing is I have done that now with a few girls in DR and all them are saying they are sorry begging for one more chance. Go figure!

[Carrib]

I agree with all your points. To be honest, I think on a lot of occasions the chicas actually really like you, but whether semi. Pro, pro they do not have anything they can fall back on. What I mean, I really believe carrib is that she really wanted to help you get money and the only way she knew how to help is f-k another tourist. So, what we think is bad is normal for them. Again, most of these girls have been having sex since they were very young so it is not as much a big deal for them as it is for us. Think of it a lot of their boyfriends except what they do for money. Would you ever except A women helping with the bills sleeping with other guys. We would not, but a lot of guys over there do. It's strange, but accepted. Now, there are good girls there too who would never do it, but others who would. One last point, I hung out with a girl who was a semi pro, but when I asked if you made a mistake and slept with a guy you did not really like and got pregnant would she have the baby. She said she could never kill another life. So, these girls are mad complicated they can mix sex, money and there catholic roots all together. Again, I still think they are hoping that you will take them out of there for a better life. Again, men still rule there and it has always been that way there. Even with your yelling and all they still are better treated by us then most Of the men over there. We would never think of hitting them, but those guys over there would not hesitate.

One thing to remember is that once a chica starts disrespecting you, you need to walk away or do something to regain the power in the relationship. Personally, acting like a Dominican and beating her ass wasn't an option, it was best to cut her ass off. They are indeed complicated (funny she called me complicated as well haha) creatures who see nothing wrong with some of these actions. In DR it is normal to settle debts and favors with sex and worse, some Dominican dudes will pimp their novias to gringos, friends, and their bosses. So when you send your sweetie Western Union money, you could be supporting her Dominican chulo instead. I suspected as much with my ex, she has money coming in monthly from the father of her daughter, he pays for the house. I know that she worked at least 4 promo jobs in August, at 4-5K a pop, thats another 16-20K pesos. I went to her house didn't see any expensive items and very little clothes, so where was the money going? She's either a degenerate gambler or giving all or most of her money to her chulo.

We also need to be realistic, unless you can fly to DR at least once a month to see her, you should expect that your novia is fucking others while you are gone. I tried to see her once a month, but mostly I wanted to get a good sense before I got in too deep emotionally and perhaps financially. It is best to encourage an open relationship, you can see other women while she is allowed to roam free while you are gone. It also lightens the load, someone else can take care of her ass while you are gone and she will not feel the need to lie and deceive you.

Lastly, they EXPECT you to be a dog and have multiple women, yes they'll get jealous, throw fits but it is part of the game and their cultural upbringing. For the most part, they don't want to lose face to another chica. Each time you lose one or let one go, there's another just around the corner waiting to step in. On the subject of money, whereas it isn't advisable to simply send funds monthly (she survived 20 plus years before she met you, she will find a way) it is though customary to help defray her expenses associated with seeing you: her taxi / bus funds, hair salon, feeding her and a gift as a token of your appreciation should be standard.

Happy hunting gents.

[Professor 1]

I feel now when I am in the DR if I am going to put out a 100 bucks the chica needs to stay all night if I feel she is really worth the 100. I know there are times that I do not want a chica all night than if so I do not want to pay 100 bucks. The casa have their place because it still a bargain compare to what you would get back home and I would say it is less work you just pick who you want and that is that.

Paying US$100 for TLN is too much money, period. Forget the US comparison rate, because you are not in the US. A friend of mine that I met only makes about US$100 per month working for Politur. I give her RD$1, 000 when she visits. She gets to be treated well, gets to use HOT water to shower, and sleeps in a warm bed off the floor. I have seen her house and met the family. You do not have to use the casas, just go to a store on The Conde, start talking, and invite the girl for dinner.

[Knowledge]

It covers all the bases you are looking for. It is about 4 blocks from your hotel. The food is decent. There is a cab driver I use who is very good named Santana. You can find him parked on the corner.

Villar is popular and opens early. THey used to be 24/7 a few years ago but I'm pretty sure they are open by 6 for the commuter crowd and the casino people. They use good food handling techniques. Manolos is also very popular. The neigborhood would not be the same without them.