Hong Kong Club Reports

[Artisttyp]

This brings up a great question for me. I NEVER venture into the clubs because invariably I am accosted by a woman that I don't find attractive. Within seconds, a waiter pounces, and the fugly chick sitting next to me orders an $8 drink. I'm put in the awkward position of saying, no so here's my question.

How can I get everyone to fuck off until I find a girl I'm actually interested in?

Easy. You treat hired help like hired help until they get the picture. If they open up a chica drink without your permission get up and walk. Hopefully it comes out of the waiter's salary.

The clubs are not set up for you to enjoy. They are money leeches that look for desperate guys with a weakness of not being able to say NO.

Say NO.

[DannyDavis]

No obligation to buy a drink if you do not sit down with a girl. If you are walking around or just standing in HK, then the waiters cannot force you to buy a drink.

I don't drink alcohol, so I usually avoid buying drinks in HK when I can. I am there for the girls, not the drinks.

This brings up a great question for me. I NEVER venture into the clubs because invariably I am accosted by a woman that I don't find attractive. Within seconds, a waiter pounces, and the fugly chick sitting next to me orders an $8 drink. I'm put in the awkward position of saying, no so here's my question.

How can I get everyone to fuck off until I find a girl I'm actually interested in?

[TomJackin]

No obligation to buy a drink if you do not sit down with a girl. If you are walking around or just standing in HK, then the waiters cannot force you to buy a drink.

Meseros cannot force you to buy a drink, but security and management can. First and foremost, HK is a business. I've seen several times over the years where non buying looky loos were tossed out the club.

I've also seen dudes just buy a bottle of water just to avoid the conflicts. Lately, I've seen this one dude that picks up an empty beer bottle and hangs on to it for dear life.

[UltraHappy]

If Starbucks had two guys arrested for sitting around and not buying drinks in their restaurant, I wonder what will happen to you in the Tijuana clubs? Let us know what happens to you when you copy these guys and do not buy drinks.

P.S. I hear the Tijuana jail is not a classy hotel experience, lots of cockroaches crawling over everything. Let us here at ISG know what it is like when you get out.

No obligation to buy a drink if you do not sit down with a girl. If you are walking around or just standing in HK, then the waiters cannot force you to buy a drink.

I don't drink alcohol, so I usually avoid buying drinks in HK when I can. I am there for the girls, not the drinks.

[Yiruma]

Start off with a tip, then buy her 1 drink and continue, perhaps with a few more trips. They have free lap dance coupons, use them to get a free lap dance -- best way to extend your mileage and will give you enough time and opportunity to see if you want to go arriba!

There are lap dances that are given with a ficha, for example or even just chatting, depending on the girl, in the bars. In my experience, that's not an anything goes situation. I've heard of guys getting a little overzealous and end up being tossed out.

The lap dances I'm talking about are $11 on Monday or Tuesday with a coupon, $22 other days. That'll buy you about 10 minutes in a locked booth with a decent amount of room. I would definitely NOT guarantee an anything goes situation. But I've had all but FS in there. I do not (should not and probably could not) "finish" the deal in there. But as others have said, a great way to interview a chica. A ficha is $9. You'll know MUCH more about her for an additional $2. Some will hard sell you on arriba. The smart ones have an opportunity to prove you can't say no. LOL.

Thanks. Buying the lap dances instead for a few additional dollars definitely seems like the smart way to go.

[Dcrist0527]

Safe to say YMMV.

There are lap dances that are given with a ficha, for example or even just chatting, depending on the girl, in the bars. In my experience, that's not an anything goes situation. I've heard of guys getting a little overzealous and end up being tossed out.

The lap dances I'm talking about are $11 on Monday or Tuesday with a coupon, $22 other days. That'll buy you about 10 minutes in a locked booth with a decent amount of room. I would definitely NOT guarantee an anything goes situation. But I've had all but FS in there. I do not (should not and probably could not) "finish" the deal in there. But as others have said, a great way to interview a chica. A ficha is $9. You'll know MUCH more about her for an additional $2. Some will hard sell you on arriba. The smart ones have an opportunity to prove you can't say no. LOL.

Maybe I'm confused. I saw reports of $20 lapdances not being worth it, but I got a lapdance for free. However, maybe the definition of lapdance varies here! I assumed a lapdance southern California style, ie little to no clothes, nearly full or full touch, but no direct sexual stimulation beyond hands-free rubbing. Is a $20 lapdance here in a VIP room "anything goes", including penetration / BJ / he?

[Travv]

If Starbucks had two guys arrested for sitting around and not buying drinks in their restaurant, I wonder what will happen to you in the Tijuana clubs? Let us know what happens to you when you copy these guys and do not buy drinks.

P.S. I hear the Tijuana jail is not a classy hotel experience, lots of cockroaches crawling over everything. Let us here at ISG know what it is like when you get out.

I assume you are asking if the chica will stay sitting with you and talking with you for an extended period of time without ordering ficha drinks from the bar. Only modest direct tipping to the chica.

The answer is this technique will face difficulties in Tijuana bars. The meseros and bar managers don't want their chicas working while not generating revenue for the bar. Expect a lot of hassle trying to employ this technique in Tijuana.

[Urfikhan]

Tijuana is not the place to go to change the rules and work the system. Just pay the drink price if you want company.

Start off with a tip, then buy her 1 drink and continue, perhaps with a few more trips. They have free lap dance coupons, use them to get a free lap dance -- best way to extend your mileage and will give you enough time and opportunity to see if you want to go arriba!

[Yiruma]

This can be done occasionally but not often and if the waiter sees he will be pissed and take her to a new guy anyway. I'll usually let a girl talk to me for free for 5 minutes then tip her and tell her to go make some money because you get stink eye every ten seconds from the waiters for not buying her a drink.

Perhaps if it included tipping the meseros his $1 when he comes ask for drinks it might work. Everyone wins except the club and they make enough already.

[ScatManDoo]

Is there a way to circumvent buying drinks for the ladies in the clubs?

When I travel to Thailand and frequent the agogo bars, I would decline when the girls ask for lady drinks. Instead, I would reach into my pocket and peel off a 100 Baht note and slip it to her and whisper "No more lady drinks". The girls usually happily accept and don't feel the need to hound me for drinks for awhile since its a win-win for both of us. Would this same technique work in the Tijuana clubs?

I assume you are asking if the chica will stay sitting with you and talking with you for an extended period of time without ordering ficha drinks from the bar. Only modest direct tipping to the chica.

The answer is this technique will face difficulties in Tijuana bars. The meseros and bar managers don't want their chicas working while not generating revenue for the bar. Expect a lot of hassle trying to employ this technique in Tijuana.

[Yiruma]

Is there a way to circumvent buying drinks for the ladies in the clubs?

When I travel to Thailand and frequent the agogo bars, I would decline when the girls ask for lady drinks. Instead, I would reach into my pocket and peel off a 100 Baht note and slip it to her and whisper "No more lady drinks". The girls usually happily accept and don't feel the need to hound me for drinks for awhile since its a win-win for both of us. Would this same technique work in the Tijuana clubs?

[Simmer]

I think that's fairly standard, depending on the girl. From my time spent there, junior stays covered in the bars. Junior comes out to play in the lapdance rooms.

Maybe I'm confused. I saw reports of $20 lapdances not being worth it, but I got a lapdance for free. However, maybe the definition of lapdance varies here! I assumed a lapdance southern California style, ie little to no clothes, nearly full or full touch, but no direct sexual stimulation beyond hands-free rubbing. Is a $20 lapdance here in a VIP room "anything goes", including penetration / BJ / he?

[MexiMonger]

Make your reservation for the type of room as far in advance as possible.

When you check in, make the request while sliding a $5 tip across to the clerk.

Overall, the upper floors are better. Note that the elevator goes just to the 6th floor. If you have any trouble walking or with stairs, you might decline a 7 or 8.

If you ask for a Master or Jacuzzi room in the new section, you will probably get it.

I am guessing, but when they finished the new section (or at least made it habitable) they started using some of the older rooms they let out for the night for short-term rooms.

Hello,

I didn't quite understand.

I have booked a room for 3 nights in September. "Habitacion Doble de lujo" . Will I get a good room?

I have only been to HK once and had one chica upstairs but it was in a very ugly room towards the alley and it also said Cascadas, I paid for half an hour. I'm very afraid they will try and give me one of those and I Also read that this happened to someone here. This would be awful!

Another question: Will alley girls go to Cascadas? Do all Cascadas room have security boxes?

Thank you for your information. I have read a good amount of info in this thread but the information changes as time goes by so I figured I could ask you guys, the experts, for an update.

[SamWise1]

I find it a good test to screen new talent. Poor performance in the lap dance room = poor performance arriba.

This is a YMMV situation in that you can test a girl's limits in private for $11.

Not being a young man and of limited stamina, it is important that I choose wisely.

OTOH, everything that is available arriba I have received in the VIP rooms.

Example: It was mid-afternoon and I had checked out of my room. I was not anxious to return to the hotel short term, so I took a girl to a VIP room, where we did everything we would have in the room.

Another time the girl did not want to go to my room, but the mesero assured me that she was a great time and directed me to a VIP room. I thought it would be a dull experience, but she was great as advertised; her service exceeded expectations. I don't know what her issue was about going to the hotel, but she spent a good amount of time dancing on me to the music, watching the floor activity, and it could be that she did not want someone to know how many times she went arriba. (She was very pretty. Wish I could remember her name).

Exactly my point. Its good way to try the girl out. If she is not giving you access the way you want you can say good bye.

[SamWise1]

I second that, also 7 bucks for one beer? I don't even pay that much for a beer in the US. Some people pay what they are told to pay with no if's, and's or but's. Price sounds very inflated.

I am sorry. I think I paid 4 bucks for regular beer. Not sure how much was in pesos. 7 bucks I paid for one of wiskey I got.

My whole point was I did not want to change to pesos as did not know how much I will spend and did not wanted pesos with me when I go back. I agree I would have spent some more but I did not wanted hassle of changing back and forth for my few days there.