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  1. #17490
    Quote Originally Posted by Jim0129  [View Original Post]
    According to the article, one of the owners and the manager were charged with human trafficking, it says that the investigation started in the state of Sonora and it lead them to adelitas.

    I'm guessing that they crossed the line into pimping, you see, in Mexico prostitution is legal but pimping is not, in other words, you can sell your own body but no one can make money or sell somebody's else's body, that's why prostitution is legal but pornography is not.

    At the end, HK, Adela's and the sort are just bars selling drinks, whatever deal is made between the patrons of the bar is between them and the bar shouldn't get involved, now these businesses have been dancing dances around this thin line for decades selling all the "accesories" around the prostitution deal.

    I am guessing, but they probably did some kind of recruiting or advertising in Sonora for new talent, and if they made the mistake of for example, paying the travel expenses for the new girls and giving them free lodge, which they do, then they are f**ked.
    This was always my understanding. My 1st year was like 8 yrs ago. And back then their was certainly a bigger separation between hotel, and the clubs. The girls were relaxed, happy to see you, happy to go to your hotel, full of joy, it was no hassle to walk I to Cascadas or Adelitas hotel get a room and nobody was bothering us. I never had a girl use a alarm and I never had a knock. But now its not the case. Just another reason I would not be surprised to see the whole industry come to an end at some point. At least the public version ther3's always gona be escorts.

  2. #17489

    Pornography

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim0129  [View Original Post]
    that's why prostitution is legal but pornography is not..
    Does this have anything to do with cam models? I notice 95% of the Latina cam models are Colombian. I never see Mexican chicas on something like chaturbate. But one of the Tijuana born escorts did tell me she tried cam modeling before.

  3. #17488
    Quote Originally Posted by Jackie888  [View Original Post]
    Yup. If you go to other Mexico Cities that does not have a zona norte such as Mexico City, what you will find is that there is prostitution spread out all over the city with very little monitoring. And the result is that you have chicas working right outside of more respectable businesses. Nothing wrong with the chicas, but you also have a lot of parasites that follow them like pimps. And the next thing you know, you have a lot of criminality involved. Same here in the states. You cannot really ban the practice.

    So I think that Tijuana has it right in that they have limited prostitution (and pimps) to a geographical area, and they are able to manage it with taxes and licenses and other means.

    Therefore, I don't think the Zona Norte will go away.
    That's what Amsterdamn did a long time ago!

    I just heard from a wait staff in Plano sports bar I like to go to that in Ireland they tolerate the putas! See tons of green eyed red haired gals in certain locals in northern Ireland looking for some CA$H!

  4. #17487
    Quote Originally Posted by ABAJoeSmith123  [View Original Post]
    Seems like hk monopoly is here. Adelitas is likely gone for good now.

    https://es-us.noticias.yahoo.com/fis...033000863.html
    According to the article, one of the owners and the manager were charged with human trafficking, it says that the investigation started in the state of Sonora and it lead them to adelitas.

    I'm guessing that they crossed the line into pimping, you see, in Mexico prostitution is legal but pimping is not, in other words, you can sell your own body but no one can make money or sell somebody's else's body, that's why prostitution is legal but pornography is not.

    At the end, HK, Adela's and the sort are just bars selling drinks, whatever deal is made between the patrons of the bar is between them and the bar shouldn't get involved, now these businesses have been dancing dances around this thin line for decades selling all the "accesories" around the prostitution deal.

    I am guessing, but they probably did some kind of recruiting or advertising in Sonora for new talent, and if they made the mistake of for example, paying the travel expenses for the new girls and giving them free lodge, which they do, then they are f**ked.

  5. #17486
    Quote Originally Posted by Jackie888  [View Original Post]
    Isn't Woke about race theory? I'm unsure if they give a shit about prostitution.
    The term can apply to societal / cultural issues in general though, yes, it is most frequently applied specifically to race (though that's not how it was applied here).

  6. #17485
    Quote Originally Posted by BrotherMouzone  [View Original Post]
    Social culture in the USA Is COMPLETELY different than it is in Mexico my man, don't see the Zona Norte bars shutting down anytime soon (at least as a whole, though do agree that Adelitas is in a bit of danger now). "Woke" politicians don't have nearly the same influence in Mexico that they have in the USA, especially when you have so many non-"woke" politicians in MX that can be paid off. I mean you have a church smack dab in the middle of Adelitas and HK that still operates three days a week and has actually been in continuous operation for over 75 years. You think that would fly in the USA? (LOL).

    The fact that in Mexico, unlike the USA, this is all perfectly legal also obviously helps tremendously. Bottom line. As long as this stuff is all legal and as long as these bars have the $$$ to pay the right people off, Zona Norte isn't shutting down any time soon. IMO it would take something completely out there like a mass shooting for them to even consider it. Based on what I've seen the mistreatment of women certainly isn't going to lead to a shutdown.
    Isn't Woke about race theory? I'm unsure if they give a shit about prostitution.

  7. #17484
    Quote Originally Posted by StRobert  [View Original Post]
    42nd Street in NYC were the shops with porn magazines and "peep shows" where for 25 cents / 1 min. You could watch porn movies or live naked dancers. There was also a live sex show on the corner of 42nd Street and 8th Avenue. That's all. Because prostitution in NYC was illegal. Meanwhile in Tijuana you have a "zone of tolerance" (Zona Norte) where prostitution is legal. The "tolerance zone" is a good system not only in Tijuana but in many cities around the world where the city government wants to keep legal prostitution in one concentrated place.
    Yup. If you go to other Mexico Cities that does not have a zona norte such as Mexico City, what you will find is that there is prostitution spread out all over the city with very little monitoring. And the result is that you have chicas working right outside of more respectable businesses. Nothing wrong with the chicas, but you also have a lot of parasites that follow them like pimps. And the next thing you know, you have a lot of criminality involved. Same here in the states. You cannot really ban the practice.

    So I think that Tijuana has it right in that they have limited prostitution (and pimps) to a geographical area, and they are able to manage it with taxes and licenses and other means.

    Therefore, I don't think the Zona Norte will go away.

  8. #17483
    Quote Originally Posted by Dogers69  [View Original Post]
    I always said, at some point, all these bars will close down. Between rising real estate, redeployment of the old decrepit zona buildings, and a woke politician, that's all it takes. Nyc used to have 42nd st. One mayor put an end to that. You guys would have had a field day with all the dozens sex stores and woman to play with for 3 dollars. They all smelled like bleach.
    42nd Street in NYC were the shops with porn magazines and "peep shows" where for 25 cents / 1 min. You could watch porn movies or live naked dancers. There was also a live sex show on the corner of 42nd Street and 8th Avenue. That's all. Because prostitution in NYC was illegal. Meanwhile in Tijuana you have a "zone of tolerance" (Zona Norte) where prostitution is legal. The "tolerance zone" is a good system not only in Tijuana but in many cities around the world where the city government wants to keep legal prostitution in one concentrated place.

  9. #17482
    Quote Originally Posted by Dogers69  [View Original Post]
    I always said, at some point, all these bars will close down. Between rising real estate, redeployment of the old decrepit zona buildings, and a woke politician, that's all it takes. Nyc used to have 42nd st. One mayor put an end to that. You guys would have had a field day with all the dozens sex stores and woman to play with for 3 dollars. They all smelled like bleach.
    Social culture in the USA Is COMPLETELY different than it is in Mexico my man, don't see the Zona Norte bars shutting down anytime soon (at least as a whole, though do agree that Adelitas is in a bit of danger now). "Woke" politicians don't have nearly the same influence in Mexico that they have in the USA, especially when you have so many non-"woke" politicians in MX that can be paid off. I mean you have a church smack dab in the middle of Adelitas and HK that still operates three days a week and has actually been in continuous operation for over 75 years. You think that would fly in the USA? (LOL).

    The fact that in Mexico, unlike the USA, this is all perfectly legal also obviously helps tremendously. Bottom line. As long as this stuff is all legal and as long as these bars have the $$$ to pay the right people off, Zona Norte isn't shutting down any time soon. IMO it would take something completely out there like a mass shooting for them to even consider it. Based on what I've seen the mistreatment of women certainly isn't going to lead to a shutdown.

  10. #17481
    Quote Originally Posted by Dogers69  [View Original Post]
    I always said, at some point, all these bars will close down. Between rising real estate, redeployment of the old decrepit zona buildings, and a woke politician, that's all it takes. Nyc used to have 42nd st. One mayor put an end to that. You guys would have had a field day with all the dozens sex stores and woman to play with for 3 dollars. They all smelled like bleach.
    Not in our life time.

    I don't think nyc compares to Tijuanas playground. That area in nyc during that time just seemed like a nasty area to be around for scum, cum stained theater seats, viewing booths, and smelly sex shows. No thanks.

    Tijuana zona Rosa is here to stay for many more years to come.

  11. #17480

    Would be fun to meet

    Darkmoon,

    Glad you found the infos helpful.

    Welcome to hang out with us when you are here. A couple guys we hang out with are nice, fun, upright gentlemen, a hoot to party with. Their Intel's are precious.

  12. #17479
    Quote Originally Posted by BrotherMouzone  [View Original Post]
    We'll see. Adelitas has been around for 60+ years and paying off the right people in Mexico typically cures all ills. But unlike many of the other closures (which to my understanding were generally handled by local authorities), it seems you have the Mexican federal government involved this time. So we'll see. Would be a shame as I actually prefer Adelitas laid-back bar atmosphere to the nightclub atmosphere in HK, even if the women aren't as high-quality.
    I always said, at some point, all these bars will close down. Between rising real estate, redeployment of the old decrepit zona buildings, and a woke politician, that's all it takes. Nyc used to have 42nd st. One mayor put an end to that. You guys would have had a field day with all the dozens sex stores and woman to play with for 3 dollars. They all smelled like bleach.

  13. #17478
    Quote Originally Posted by ABAJoeSmith123  [View Original Post]
    Seems like hk monopoly is here. Adelitas is likely gone for good now.

    https://es-us.noticias.yahoo.com/fis...033000863.html
    We'll see. Adelitas has been around for 60+ years and paying off the right people in Mexico typically cures all ills. But unlike many of the other closures (which to my understanding were generally handled by local authorities), it seems you have the Mexican federal government involved this time. So we'll see. Would be a shame as I actually prefer Adelitas laid-back bar atmosphere to the nightclub atmosphere in HK, even if the women aren't as high-quality.

  14. #17477

    The morditas

    ABAJoe Smith,

    Some minor girls in Sonora ratted out Adelitas' owner? Just prove how good HK; s propaganda and recruiting department is for spreading enough bullshit to get hot girls from all over Mexico to come to HK to work.

    But there are no legal problems in Mexico that cannot be fixed by greasing the right slime balls. Everyone has to take a mordita bite out of the system, just like the Italian Mafia.

    Adelitas will reopen soon, albeit with older, fatter and uglier women.

  15. #17476
    Quote Originally Posted by BrotherMouzone  [View Original Post]
    Living on the East Coast my whole life the spring weather in Southern California / Tijuana was something that surprised me when I first started going down there. Assumed (maybe just from TV or whatever) that it was always sunny and warm down there around that time. Was borderline shocked hanging out in LA and other parts of Southern Cal in May and needing a jacket a bunch of nights because it was so chilly. I guess that has to do at least in part with the proximity to the ocean.
    To the west of the Rocky Mountains, summer can be hot during the day but cools down at night. The closer you are to the ocean the temperature is cooler because the breeze blows from the ocean except for the Santa Ana wind. There is generally no oppressive humidity. The water in the ocean is cool because of the current from Alaska. To the east of the Rocky Mountains, in summer, the day and night can be hot and the humidity can be oppressive. OMG I remember those hot and humid nights in Chicago and New York with no air condition.

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