Hong Kong Club Reports

[BlackThought]

I've done numerous short trips with her since the summer and she is just like a Thai lady when it comes to compensation and says it is "up to me", which annoys me. She doesn't have children and only a poor family that seem to always run to her for support, but now she isn't working, which is another topic I'll share later when I get time. If they don't get the money from you, then they will figure out a way to get "fast money".

Why are you interested in dating a working girl? There's a high probability that they're damaged. I don't think many can work in this field and be unscathed.

[LuvMexicanas]

Dude,

I am a relative noob, just trying to figure out some tactics to negotiate lower rates for longer sessions with the girls. Searched the forum, didn't find any old threads so I asked the question. Relax.

I was not referring to your. Chillax.

[Member #4730]

To be honest, you probably only spent a bit more than had you gone by yourself. I invited a civvie FWB lady friend of mine from GDL to Puerto Vallarta and the additional cost of bringing her along was just a $150 plane ticket, and meals, booze & extras for 1 more person. We were there 5 days, and I think it cost me a total of $500 extra for the whole trip.

As long as you're not covering a day rate, there's a clear expectation that you expect to get laid, and you've taken an HK girl out for a couple of days to Rosarito or Ensenada and see what she's like on a mini-vacation, it's usually a pretty good deal. The ones that are going to be a gigantic money drain and a pain in the ass will show you who they are right away.

I've done numerous short trips with her since the summer and she is just like a Thai lady when it comes to compensation and says it is "up to me", which annoys me. She doesn't have children and only a poor family that seem to always run to her for support, but now she isn't working, which is another topic I'll share later when I get time. If they don't get the money from you, then they will figure out a way to get "fast money".

[Member #4730]

KB, I wouldn't try to second guess your girl and all she has done to dumb guys. I would think of it in this matter. All the workers in the Zona know that most guys show up with a certain amount of money to spend and they figure that if it isn't spent on me it will be spent on someone else. Besides most guys are to drunk or just plain stupid to realize it. Remember in "The Wolf of Wall Street" he talks about taking peoples money because he will spend it better. If a guy is willing to pay for $500 TLN and can't perform why should she offer him a discount? She did her job and the guy isn't going to be on the streets because of it.

You said before that she has been on her own basically since the age of 17 so she does what she has to in order to survive and get what she wants. Now you often think about what makes you different and is she doing the same to you. Well you will never really know and screw up a possible good thing by overthinking it or just go with the flow and be smart enough not to invest your life savings so if it goes south you only lost some money that you would if spent on some other girls and gambling.

When I get more time next week, I'll add more about my crazy adventure. Cultural differences, language barrier, meeting family, checking her cell phone, ultimatums, insecurities, age gap, and the list could go on. You are so correct, I just figured out the past few days it is about survival for them since not many opportunities in Mexico.

I think I tried numerous psychological tests to figure out what her true intentions are and I am getting a better grasp of her thinking. What a wild ride, but fun and interesting. I think she has been in many toxic and bad relationships where she lost faith in men and asked me if I was a good man to which I replied yes. Everyone has a different interpretation of what a good man is and I feel I am genuine and honest in regards to whatever she asks me. Some of her friends tell her she is only with the gringo for the money. Big trip coming up for NYE and hopefully she can transfer schools or I might have to visit Sinaloa.

[BlackThought]

It was for flights, hotel, entertainment, water parks, rental car, etc. She only wanted a pair of Ray Ban sunglasses ($250).

If that's the case, you got a hell of a deal.

You would've had to pay for the hotel, rental car regardless. Paying for Flights, entertainment, water parks etc are expected when you invite a woman to travel with you. I thought she charged you $1 k / night on top of all expenses paid for the vacation.

[ClownDays]

It was for flights, hotel, entertainment, water parks, rental car, etc. She only wanted a pair of Ray Ban sunglasses ($250).

To be honest, you probably only spent a bit more than had you gone by yourself. I invited a civvie FWB lady friend of mine from GDL to Puerto Vallarta and the additional cost of bringing her along was just a $150 plane ticket, and meals, booze & extras for 1 more person. We were there 5 days, and I think it cost me a total of $500 extra for the whole trip.

As long as you're not covering a day rate, there's a clear expectation that you expect to get laid, and you've taken an HK girl out for a couple of days to Rosarito or Ensenada and see what she's like on a mini-vacation, it's usually a pretty good deal. The ones that are going to be a gigantic money drain and a pain in the ass will show you who they are right away.

[Federico69]

Amen. If only I had a dollar for every idiot who cited a ficha quota. Not saying I'd be rich but tacos for a week would be a given. Notice how the poster who started all this nonsense has gone silent.

Dude,

I am a relative noob, just trying to figure out some tactics to negotiate lower rates for longer sessions with the girls. Searched the forum, didn't find any old threads so I asked the question. Relax.

[Sol12]

Yeah it has been a wild roller coaster, but the past 2 months have been the highest of highs and lowest of lows. It is misunderstanding on both parts. They are impoverished and need money for various family issues and we are thinking it is all about the money which offends the ones with a genuine connection. I feel bad for the guys that don't have self control, but then again, they may have a boatload of money. I know the ex HK bargirl I'm dating said one guy from New York paid her $100 for the 30 min. And then an additional $500 for a TLN, but he couldn't perform and was embarrassed so he let her leave.

I can relate to your comment that it is just business to them and weird for some of us johns how they can't have any kind of emotional connection. Also kind of strange dilemma when you hear their stories and how they fleece other guys of their money like charging for more time, etc. It tints the lens in which you may view the lady your seeing as sometimes you may question why me and why her.

KB, I wouldn't try to second guess your girl and all she has done to dumb guys. I would think of it in this matter. All the workers in the Zona know that most guys show up with a certain amount of money to spend and they figure that if it isn't spent on me it will be spent on someone else. Besides most guys are to drunk or just plain stupid to realize it. Remember in "The Wolf of Wall Street" he talks about taking peoples money because he will spend it better. If a guy is willing to pay for $500 TLN and can't perform why should she offer him a discount? She did her job and the guy isn't going to be on the streets because of it.

You said before that she has been on her own basically since the age of 17 so she does what she has to in order to survive and get what she wants. Now you often think about what makes you different and is she doing the same to you. Well you will never really know and screw up a possible good thing by overthinking it or just go with the flow and be smart enough not to invest your life savings so if it goes south you only lost some money that you would if spent on some other girls and gambling.

[Dogers69]

HK was very crowded Friday Saturday night. I thought the place seemed dead last weekend but maybe it had to do with other things or I went to early. Tonight, Saturday, everything was packed. Hong Kong, Tropical, Adelitas. Adelitas was so crowded I could not get seat and left after 10 minutes without buying a drink. I haven't been finding any good girls to buy drinks for, may be time I take a break from going.

[LuvMexicanas]

You have now given the 5,422nd different answer given from the 5,422nd chica asked about how the ficha quota is measured.

If an actual ficha quota existed.

Numerous chicas would report the same formula.

Amen. If only I had a dollar for every idiot who cited a ficha quota. Not saying I'd be rich but tacos for a week would be a given. Notice how the poster who started all this nonsense has gone silent.

[Member #4730]

No shame, I get it, sometimes the chemistry is so spot on that you just enjoy their company. I just can't justify $1 k / day when most go for $100/ session, I rather session with 10 diff girls. If I was really wealthy then yeah, I'll spend $1 k / day with my ATFs.

It was for flights, hotel, entertainment, water parks, rental car, etc. She only wanted a pair of Ray Ban sunglasses ($250).

[Member #4730]

I got crazy in the past when I was making good money, not baller status but. Descent. It is funny when your broke you find out how many of them girls are your friends. In my experience not too many women will hang around a poor guy. One chica I knew forget everyone who helped her not that she hooked up with her latest sugar daddy, living the "high" life of drugs and alcohol and fake superficial Instagram life at her beautiful condo overlooking the golf course. Her new man is blowing 1000's of dollar per month keeping her happy as she flaunts it to us ex Johns on her Instagram LOL. Always there's always someone with more money out there. As my Korean friend once said, she is a gold digger.

Yeah it has been a wild roller coaster, but the past 2 months have been the highest of highs and lowest of lows. It is misunderstanding on both parts. They are impoverished and need money for various family issues and we are thinking it is all about the money which offends the ones with a genuine connection. I feel bad for the guys that don't have self control, but then again, they may have a boatload of money. I know the ex HK bargirl I'm dating said one guy from New York paid her $100 for the 30 min. And then an additional $500 for a TLN, but he couldn't perform and was embarrassed so he let her leave.

I can relate to your comment that it is just business to them and weird for some of us johns how they can't have any kind of emotional connection. Also kind of strange dilemma when you hear their stories and how they fleece other guys of their money like charging for more time, etc. It tints the lens in which you may view the lady your seeing as sometimes you may question why me and why her.

[Maelstrom]

Hope you're enjoying Medellin, looks like you're running into fishy pussy there as well which is surprising as Colombians stay on top of hygiene. That board loves el centro chicas that go for 30 k COP ($8 usd) and will give you hell if you pay a penny more for fucking up the market LOL. The chicas in el centro are pretty ugly and the better looking ones at parque Lleras charges 200-300 k ($50-80) for an hour. The ones in gusto night club would charge $200 USD for an hour, and they're on par with HK club talent in terms of looks.

After seeing the talent at HK club and getting TLN for $300 with a 8+ (looks) and 9+ (performance), I'm perfectly fine with just sticking with Tijuana. Flights from California to Colombia are 10 hours. The chicas in Colombia generally don't speak English either, and I hate using google translate.

The Centro guys only that sub = the street girl only guys on Tijuana sub. I did see a few head turners when I was walking around Botero park few weeks back they were all Venezuelan. Glad you are enjoying HK.

[Cocr Brotheler]

Not a big amount of dinero but happened to me both times I checked out last week. First time felt like I was short changed but refund already mixed into the rest of my bills. Think they shorted me $4-$5 from what I remembered at checkout and I didn't even have mini bar in my room on 4th floor.

When I checked out the 2nd time they definitely short changed me $4-$5 but I was already outside waiting for the shuttle back. Figured they would tell me they needed it to pay for cleaning the room or that I took something which I didn't. It just gets too exhausting to challenge it all. At every level of the transactions they are trying to clip you.

Then at the alley OXXO earlier in the week I bought a glass bottled beer one evening early. After I paid for it with receipt in hand the male employee said I needed to pay 7 pesos additional for the bottle since the purchase only included the liquid. I showed the receipt he just handed me and said in Spanish then why wasn't the 7 pesos charged before I paid? WTF? WTF? I said Ok then I will return the unopened beer but he didn't want to do that. We went back and forth several times as the que of others waiting to pay backed up. Finally he just said I bring the bottle back next visit (which I did but he wasn't working). It is not like 7 pesos is a lot to me but how it was presented and not charged with the original purchase.

Was he correct or just trying to pull one over on me? Bet he was surprised when a sober gringo speaking passable Spanish in an argumentative manner contested him. Hey if he pulled out a gun or threatened to call police I would of paid hehehe.

[SeaBeeJoe]

No shame, I get it, sometimes the chemistry is so spot on that you just enjoy their company. I just can't justify $1 k / day when most go for $100/ session, I rather session with 10 diff girls. If I was really wealthy then yeah, I'll spend $1 k / day with my ATFs.

If I was. Real wealthy I would just enjoy my own company, I would never pay 1 k a day for anyone even if I was a billionaire. Rich people are rich because they make sound money choices.