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  1. #15701

    This isn't the movies like pretty women

    The type of girl who decides to work as a prostitute is or becomes because of the job a women who is undateable. Learned the hard way that these girls are just for fun. Not even bitter but just being real. Even western women are like bar girls now. All they care about is money and looks. The last girl I dated from HK had some serious drug problems and I believe she was a narcissist as well. Love the girl to death but just like maybe some have experienced with certain family members, you can love them but you can't help them. If you want a wife the zona is the wrong place to look.

  2. #15700

    Tijuana, but it all turns on money / not all

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    For the love of money! And it's true too. You can have a good time in Tijuana, but it all turns on money. Your money. From your airfare to get out there to the bus you take from San Diego to the border to the taxi you take from the border to your hotel where you pay for a room to your meals and drinks to tipping meseros to tipping the bartender to tipping the doorman to paying for the short-time room to do the deed in to tipping the cleaning crew. And that's all coming out of you the monger. The Zona de Tolerencia is a whole financial ecosystem driven by you the monger. Now, did I leave anything out? Oh yeah, paying the girl to fuck her LOL!

    https://youtu.be/Z5QLbnfFWg0
    Except if you're going for more than hktj girls. This is for anyone in SoCal who might like MX in general, the country, and the beaches are beautiful! You can purchase the VIP card. Stay on Mondays & Tuesdays. For $9 and have 2 beds in a very nice room. Then head out to the beach. (Puerto Nuevo) LOL or see some amigos. (Jink?) because rooms in Tijuana average $80-100 / night nowadays. You can do a reasonably attractive (daytime) wall girl for under $50. Some of them used to be HKTJ girls. Total cost per night under $100 includes good Mexican food at La Playa. Then repeat every 2/3 weeks. Been doing this on and off for many years. Back when Chicago club was #1. Ahh but then I lived in Baja Norte. I guess the money was also invested in many girls all over MX who were on paid vacations at the HK club. Things have changed. But still not too bad in Tijuana. Many girls think of this as a full time profession and shut down their feelings. After a while. Find someone new & sincere. And have fun in the search. I'm off to Colombia ASAP. LOL.

  3. #15699
    Quote Originally Posted by Hadez  [View Original Post]
    I get how it can seem this way. Can tell you girls feel the exact same way about their clients. The girls think their clients are cold, ruthless and lack a soul. Every girl has the emotional scars to back this up and some have the physical scars.

    It is complex and not going to go into the psychology of it all but it is best to remember it is a business transaction. The girls are people with people emotions. The mongers are people with people emotions. Have fun by all means but remember. It is business.

    Play the O Jays - For the Love of Money.
    Dude,

    I respectfully disagree. While I agree that it is a business transaction, there is no way the girls feel that their clients are ruthless and lack a soul. They know that we gringos are one hundred more times more sincere and honest than their local men. The problem is that they have been jaded and hardened by their local aholes for boyfriends and husbands who have screwed and cheated on them and are in in to win the most money they can out of the gringo.

  4. #15698

    Just curious

    Out of curiosity, does anyone know how much the skyboxes cost?

  5. #15697
    Quote Originally Posted by ABAJoeSmith123  [View Original Post]
    Have any of you ever been fooled or roped into financially supporting an HK chica. How much did you give them? I hooked up with an HK chica a few times and she gives me sob stories of how she needs help with her bills. Never asked for any specific amount of money, but I was just curious what others have given if they actually got fooled into doing these financial donations or if they actually wanted to financially support an HK chica.
    You don't ever give them money, unless it's in exchange for services. If a chica knows she can give you a sob story and you bite, you'll discover just how tragic and full of calamities her life is. You might as well set that money on fire, but if you're okay with that, then it's on you. The amount, honestly, doesn't matter, if she knows she can get $20 out of you, she knows that she can probably get $200 out of you with the right sob story.

  6. #15696

    Some are genuine, some aren't

    Quote Originally Posted by Hadez  [View Original Post]
    I get how it can seem this way. Can tell you girls feel the exact same way about their clients. The girls think their clients are cold, ruthless and lack a soul. Every girl has the emotional scars to back this up and some have the physical scars.

    It is complex and not going to go into the psychology of it all but it is best to remember it is a business transaction. The girls are people with people emotions. The mongers are people with people emotions. Have fun by all means but remember. It is business.

    Play the O Jays - For the Love of Money.
    I hear what you are saying. A lot of the girls are people with genuine emotions and feelings. I've met many like that. However, there are a lot that are ruthless with no emotions also.

    With that Facebook post I referenced, it wasn't a customer that said she had no heart. It was a guy from her hometown that she knows in real life. So, the real people in her life see this girl as heartless.

    There's also another girl that I know well. Her own Mom told her that she has no real feelings toward anyone in her life and that she only loves money. She told her daughter that when she cries, the tears aren't real. They are crocodile tears and it's all an act. This job damages and changes some of these girls forever. Yes, deep down they have feelings, but some have become ruthless predators that have no feelings or remorse when they try to take advantage of customers that treat them well.

  7. #15695
    I get how it can seem this way. Can tell you girls feel the exact same way about their clients. The girls think their clients are cold, ruthless and lack a soul. Every girl has the emotional scars to back this up and some have the physical scars.

    It is complex and not going to go into the psychology of it all but it is best to remember it is a business transaction. The girls are people with people emotions. The mongers are people with people emotions. Have fun by all means but remember. It is business.

    Play the O Jays - For the Love of Money.

    Quote Originally Posted by ElGuerito  [View Original Post]
    This part is so true of the hardened pros in HK. I saw a Facebook post the other day that made me laugh. Some HK girl posted something about how she loves her boyfriend with her whole heart. Nobody liked the post, but one person did comment. They wrote "that's impossible, because you don't have a heart."

    It wasn't a joke either because she didn't laugh about it and it made her sad. I guess the people closest to these girls realize they are cold and ruthless and devoid of empathy, like Riky said.

  8. #15694

    Free money

    If you want to give a girl money for nothing that is up to you. Your money your rules.

    I will say money up front in exchange for something later is the best way to ensure my fun with a hot girl will end. They never pay it back. Most likely you will never see the girl again. If you do see her she will be so busy trying to explain why she can not pay you back all the fun will go away.

    Best to not even go down that road.

    Last time a girl asked me to send her money I said I do not send money. She apologized for asking. I went to Tijuana, we fucked each other's brains out for a few hours and I gave her the money she wanted. We both were happy and no future promises needed.

  9. #15693

    Dire emergencies

    It's up to your judgements of the girls and their circumstances case by case.

    A wingman had a favorite HK girl, repeated sessions with her a few times. Her husband was doing 10 years in Fed Pen in AZ for drug charges. She has to raise 3 kids. One day she ran out of money for food, asked him for a $200 loan. He asked me if he should send her money. I told him $200 was not much, she was his favorite, lived in Tijuana, could always get sessions form her. He sent her the money and she averted a real human crisis. They met up in 2 weeks. She was grateful, gave him the hottest GFEs gratis, went out to dinner, came back saying good byes in front of HK. They were embracing and DF kissing, did not want to let each other go.

    I was really touched that he helped her survive the worst time in her life. The wingman was a very nice, generous young guy, could never say no to bar girls, buying them dozens Tequila shots each sitting. He stopped going to Tijuana. My guess was he went over his head and went broke with Tijuana girls. I would buy him all his drinks in Tijuana just to come back and have fun with the girls and us.

    I have felt a few girls' true desperate needs in cases, sent them money and got back some very sweet GFEs. Also smelled bullshit emergencies from a few hot, fun girls. The girls are young and inexperienced. Just use your judgement but don't treat them too harshly.

  10. #15692

    Too funny!

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottHall  [View Original Post]
    This hobby is probably not for you if you can't handle spending money. Nobody's forcing you to go so why keep complaining about it? Anybody that goes out for nightlife or vacations is going to get gouged no matter where it is. And it's still a far better value than anywhere in the states.
    Hahahaha! Before you give advice, it would really, really help if you knew something about who you're talking to bub. I've fucked more tutes in the ass than most men will get even pussy! And I'm talking over the course of their entire lifetimes! And remember, if I'm getting that booty hole 70% of the time? I'm hitting that chocho 100% of the time! I wasn't complaining about jack. I was participating in the conversation and emphasizing the facts. I'm a seasoned monger who has been around the world and back. Save that advice for someone who needs it bro. Guy going to tell a seasoned pro like me I'm not cut out for the hobby! GTFOH LMAO!

  11. #15691
    Quote Originally Posted by ABAJoeSmith123  [View Original Post]
    What are some of those reasons that you do not give money?
    Because it's our money and they're not family or anything. Why would you just give money to someone? Only a hustler would flat out ask someone for money. No self respecting adult with any pride would ask someone for money. People that need money get jobs and work for it.

    And besides that, aren't we already providing them an income by visiting the zona for their work. Why on earth should you give more?

  12. #15690

    Verdad

    Quote Originally Posted by Hadez  [View Original Post]
    Besides never getting free sex? Do you need more reasons? I mean I got them if you want but that seems good enough for me.
    Exactly. Most of them, even if they say the next time is free or whatever, will change their tune when it comes time to cash in your free sex ticket. Suddenly they'll hem and haw and may offer you a discount, but few will give you sex the next time without you paying them at least something.

    The second they receive that money from you, they will consider it theirs and that they earned it. When they see you again, most will expect you to pay the normal rate.

  13. #15689
    Maybe the best way to handle it when a chica ask for money is to offer to have sex with them in exchange for money. The chica gets the money that she needs in her emergency. And the guy gets the sex that he wants. There is no misunderstanding, no bitterness, no weird expectations, no resentment, no awkward lying. I guess the guys feel funny that they may be taking advantage of a girl under duress. But let's be honest, sex is her daily occupation. She is going to have sex with some one, why not a nice guy like you?

  14. #15688
    Besides never getting free sex? Do you need more reasons? I mean I got them if you want but that seems good enough for me.

    Quote Originally Posted by ABAJoeSmith123  [View Original Post]
    What are some of those reasons that you do not give money?

  15. #15687

    No heart, no soul.

    Quote Originally Posted by RikyMichaels7  [View Original Post]
    Another point I want to make is that if you start giving them money that it will never end, and it will never be enough! Also, many of these women have no clue regarding what it means to be appreciative, courteous, respectful. Or to display genuine empathy. They are void of having souls.
    This part is so true of the hardened pros in HK. I saw a Facebook post the other day that made me laugh. Some HK girl posted something about how she loves her boyfriend with her whole heart. Nobody liked the post, but one person did comment. They wrote "that's impossible, because you don't have a heart."

    It wasn't a joke either because she didn't laugh about it and it made her sad. I guess the people closest to these girls realize they are cold and ruthless and devoid of empathy, like Riky said.

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