Hong Kong Club Reports

[ClamSlammer]

There's a reason why you're in this forum. It's because HK's model works. I wish competition was better. Too. But the problem is that the competition doesn't come close to HK. Sure, if you're looking for cheap drinks or maybe better music, other places might be ok.

No other bar has close to the quantity nor quality that HK does. Adelitas sometimes has a diamond in the rough. But in general, HK's where it's at. And that's what it boils down to, right?

I'm afraid you've completely missed the point. Almost your entire post is spent trying to convince me that HK is the top bar, with the most and highest quality chicas. I agree. No one is disputing that. HK has been wildly successful up until this point, largely because they have the most and hottest chicas.

But that's not the point being discussed here. The debate is, whether HK's annexation of LC will benefit the average monger. It most definitely will not. But you seem to be in favor of it. Your position is in contrary to well-accepted economic theory. No educated economist will agree with you. Less competition is bad for the consumer. Period. Why do you think monopoly's are either illegal or highly regulated?

So with HK / LC "portal" being installed, how does that benefit the monger? Let's see.

1) HK customers no longer must exit, then enter LC to see LC chicas. I can't think of any other benefit.

How about disadvantages?

1) Beer prices doubled at LC.

2) Ficha price increase at LC.

3) Likely increase in arriba prices from LC putas.

4) Potential cover charge at LC.

5) Putas will be harder to track down.

The reason why we all cross the border? To find the puta (s) of our dreams. I'm not driving 3-4 hours round trip for some good music and cheap beer. LOL.

To you, you're driving 4 hours to find hot chicas. Understandable. You don't care about paying a few extra bucks for drinks. But tell me, are the heffers that work at LC all of a sudden going to look like Ariana Grande once they walk through the magic portal? Of course not, they're going to stay the same. The chicas you will find will not get any hotter. So what is the advantage that you perceive?

Sure, homogenization might be bad for consumers. Maybe that'll teach the other shops to step up their game and their girls. If they can't get with the program, they lose customers and money.

I have no idea what you mean here. You're inferring that AB / CC will have to step up their game because they built a portal inside HK / LC? Makes no sense.

BTW, I disagree about homogenization leading to less choice.

This is where I have serious doubts about whether you actually know what the word "homogenization" even means. So here is the official definition:

Ho·mog·e·ni·za·tion "The process of making things uniform or similar."

So homogenization, be definition, means less choice.

[DramaFree11]

There's a reason why you're in this forum. It's because HK's model works. I wish competition was better. Too. But the problem is that the competition doesn't come close to HK. Sure, if you're looking for cheap drinks or maybe better music, other places might be ok.

No other bar has close to the quantity nor quality that HK does. Adelitas sometimes has a diamond in the rough. But in general, HK's where it's at. And that's what it boils down to, right? The reason why we all cross the border? To find the puta (s) of our dreams. I'm not driving 3-4 hours round trip for some good music and cheap beer. LOL.

Sure, homogenization might be bad for consumers. Maybe that'll teach the other shops to step up their game and their girls. If they can't get with the program, they lose customers and money.

BTW, I disagree about homogenization leading to less choice. Giants like Walmart and Target offer lots of choices for cheaper prices than mom and pop shops. It's also more convenient. Same thing with Amazon.

Great post. HK is by far the best. Bigger is better, I can care less about a $1 or 2 more dollars for a drink. There is plenty of ways to save money at HK, just use some common sense. HK will be crazy fun when everything gets back to normal.

[SinfullyKorean]

I can't think of a single case where a reduction of choices and thus a reduction in competition was advantageous to the consumer. The merging companies benefit from economies of scale, thus saving operating costs, which is almost never passed onto the consumer. The HK-LC merger is bad for all mongers. Less choice, less competition = higher prices.

There's a reason why you're in this forum. It's because HK's model works. I wish competition was better. Too. But the problem is that the competition doesn't come close to HK. Sure, if you're looking for cheap drinks or maybe better music, other places might be ok.

No other bar has close to the quantity nor quality that HK does. Adelitas sometimes has a diamond in the rough. But in general, HK's where it's at. And that's what it boils down to, right? The reason why we all cross the border? To find the puta (s) of our dreams. I'm not driving 3-4 hours round trip for some good music and cheap beer. LOL.

Sure, homogenization might be bad for consumers. Maybe that'll teach the other shops to step up their game and their girls. If they can't get with the program, they lose customers and money.

BTW, I disagree about homogenization leading to less choice. Giants like Walmart and Target offer lots of choices for cheaper prices than mom and pop shops. It's also more convenient. Same thing with Amazon.

[Dogers69]

Well, to further support your claim, the bus is only $7 not $20.

I've read other mongers pay 20.7 is what they offer it to me for. Out of respect to Mexicans I don't pay it. Can you imagine a line in nyc where rich Europeans get to cut to get I and subway before you due to buying a pass that people who live there can't afford on a daily basis. You would have complete chaos and violence every minute. But for some reason the southern California people, who cross daily for work, and the Mexican people who have work visas, its not a problem to these people to stand in line watching line cutting for 2 hours. I would say in NYC 99% of the people would be visibly angry. In Mexico its about 1%.

[ClamSlammer]

In a time of covid19 bigger is better. More intimacy in the dark corners.

I would have to respectfully disagree with you here. If you're only considering the Chavelas annex, HK / Chavelas didn't get any bigger. The only difference is an internal passageway. As far was HK's westward expansion, it would have been better served as a separate bar. My main complaint is that I enjoy variety and different options. Now that Chavelas is connected, mongers lose a major option in the Zona. You think $4 beers at Chavelas is bad, wait till you get a load of Chubelas putas demanding $100.

Now, the new westward expansion is well lit. No dark corners to hide in. Plus, the first level are exclusively high top tables. It feels like La Malquerida in there. The tables are much less densely packed into the space than most sections of Zona bars. Notice in the photos I posted, the walls are curtains. That leads me to believe that they are still working on adding more space behind them. It's just going to get too big. And HK doesn't have the customers to support full expansion of the west wing. They shut down the alley side upper level midweek because they're aren't enough customers. So they double the size of the bar? In the middle of a pandemic with no end in sight? Idiocy. Nobody is going to HK midweek just because it got bigger. They will add 0 customers midweek due to their new west wing. If it had been a separate bar, then yes new customers would visit. They would cannibalize their own HK sales, but they would also siphon off a decent number of mongers who would otherwise go to AB, CC and other bars.

Recently, a monger stated that the HK / LC merger will "enrich" mongers. What? How does adding zero chicas and zero capacity along with doubling the cost of a beer "enrich" the monger. Any of you LC regulars feel any richer after paying $4 for a beer you normally paid $2 for? It's the same bar, same chicas, same everything except you don't have to go outside to exit and enter anymore. But now higher drink prices and likely a cover charge looming.

Like I said before, it will suck when you see a passing chica you want to ficha / fuck then later you will have to search a club triple the size in order to find her. At least before they were contained within a specific, manageable area. Now you'll never find them. What's next? A Sky Bridge linking HK to TB?

[OrganicAlo]

On the return trip I saw a crazy long line at 9 pm for the border. Since the pedwest crossing is down. Paid $20 for the van to cross but found it was kinda a scam and just involved sitting in a bus for an hour before they let you out in the same line you could wait in for free.

Well, to further support your claim, the bus is only $7 not $20.

[Necropet]

On the return trip I saw a crazy long line at 9 pm for the border. Since the pedwest crossing is down. Paid $20 for the van to cross but found it was kinda a scam and just involved sitting in a bus for an hour before they let you out in the same line you could wait in for free.

Pedeast is the one where you walk though that long building and it comes out at the trolley, right?

[Habeed]

Hit HK Sunday night. Holy superspreader event, batman. While HK now is about twice the size it was, almost everyone is crammed into the original club footprint. Almost no guys or girls in any of the annexed areas, and some areas were closed off. Almost no one, girls or patrons, was wearing a mask. I wore a decent one but still. Took a couple of chicas. Crystal was hot. Nothing notable BCD other than I found I had to ask several before I found a chica doing BBBJ. And while the service varied, with Crystal i got a solid 20-30min of lap action before taking her BCD, for the paltry price of $20. So there is that, way better value as a strip club than anything stateside.

On the return trip I saw a crazy long line at 9 pm for the border. Since the pedwest crossing is down. Paid $20 for the van to cross but found it was kinda a scam and just involved sitting in a bus for an hour before they let you out in the same line you could wait in for free.

In general the zona felt like nothing had changed except I saw some of the businesses across the street from HK were closed. Also naturally that temperature scanner at the door to HK is fake, it read 36 and 34 celsius for me at different times.

[ClamSlammer]

Attached are photos of the new section, taken on 2nd level with view towards the north. Behind me was a wall and restrooms, no more space nor tables.

[Captain Solo]

Like BigButt I prefer everything big, not the butt, but real estate.

With the passage to Chavelas, HK allows guys to take their drinks and wander across to another bar with its unique decor and flavor, distinct music and entertainment with more room and more girls to peruse. You cannot hear cross music from the other side, and Chavelas girls tend to be fresher and less mercenary than HK's. I am still looking for Estephanie de GDL for a repeat, a very nice, gentle, beautiful girl with a very hot session.

Chavelas charges same prices for drinks as HK, but it did not honor HK's coupons for drinks and Azul's dinner. It would have to accept HK's coupons now or guys will complain to management. It's very nice to have access to more room, more girls and different styles of entertainment. HK's open floor plan will bring more room, more fun and will enrich both mongers and chicas.

[Jman09]

If HK Group wanted to expand so badly, they should have built the new section as a brand new separate bar instead of adding to HK. Big mistake in my opinion. A new nameplate run by HK group with a fresh theme would have generated a lot of interest and enthusiasm. A new section to HK generates adds little to no interest at all. No one gives a fuck how big a club is. Look at Deja Vu, it's the size of a Costco and no one goes there.

That, to me, sounds like what they should have done.

[BigButtDetecto]

Is there any social distancing rules inside the bars? If you buy a girl a drink can she sit next to you like pre COVID? Are masks required to be worn while in the bars by the girls or patrons?

I don't see any specific rule. As long as you pay. I personally wear a N95 to be on the safer side.

[BigButtDetecto]

Hit the Zona Sat night. TB had decent talent, sat and ordered a bucket and watched the fight. Upstairs Tiki Room was open but completely empty. Then moved over to HK. No cover. It was busy and empty at the same time. It wasn't packed like a normal weekend. There was plenty of room to walk around. On the other side of Miami Room, they opened up an entryway into a brand new section. Pretty big. Cavernous. 2 floors. Close to the size of the old HK pre-covid. It was open for business but empty. There was only one table occupied. On the first level there were only hightop tables, no booths. Not the best environment to get lapdances or table action. Upstairs were booths. HK normally closes the upstairs section overlooking the alley bar on weekdays so no way would they open the new section midweek.

Overall, I don't like the expansions including the annexation of Chavelas. Now if you're sitting at HK and a passing puta catches your eye, good luck finding her again in a club now triple the size. I didn't order a beer at LC myself but it's been reported they charge $4 HK prices now. $5 beers /$10 fichas are just around the corner. And later on, is LC is going to charge a $7 cover on weekends? What a sham!

If HK Group wanted to expand so badly, they should have built the new section as a brand new separate bar instead of adding to HK. Big mistake in my opinion. A new nameplate run by HK group with a fresh theme would have generated a lot of interest and enthusiasm. A new section to HK generates adds little to no interest at all. No one gives a fuck how big a club is. Look at Deja Vu, it's the size of a Costco and no one goes there.

In a time of covid19 bigger is better. More intimacy in the dark corners.

[Dcrist0527]

Hit the Zona Sat night. TB had decent talent, sat and ordered a bucket and watched the fight. Upstairs Tiki Room was open but completely empty. Then moved over to HK. No cover. It was busy and empty at the same time. It wasn't packed like a normal weekend. There was plenty of room to walk around. On the other side of Miami Room, they opened up an entryway into a brand new section. Pretty big. Cavernous. 2 floors. Close to the size of the old HK pre-covid. It was open for business but empty. There was only one table occupied. On the first level there were only hightop tables, no booths. Not the best environment to get lapdances or table action. Upstairs were booths. HK normally closes the upstairs section overlooking the alley bar on weekdays so no way would they open the new section midweek.

Overall, I don't like the expansions including the annexation of Chavelas. Now if you're sitting at HK and a passing puta catches your eye, good luck finding her again in a club now triple the size. I didn't order a beer at LC myself but it's been reported they charge $4 HK prices now. $5 beers /$10 fichas are just around the corner. And later on, is LC is going to charge a $7 cover on weekends? What a sham!

If HK Group wanted to expand so badly, they should have built the new section as a brand new separate bar instead of adding to HK. Big mistake in my opinion. A new nameplate run by HK group with a fresh theme would have generated a lot of interest and enthusiasm. A new section to HK generates adds little to no interest at all. No one gives a fuck how big a club is. Look at Deja Vu, it's the size of a Costco and no one goes there.

I got to agree with you. I haven't seen the new expansion yet. Will be there in a couple weeks. A new brand would have been exciting.

But, on the flip side, more room is not a bad thing. Anyone who has struggled to find a table virtually every Friday and Saturday night knows what I'm talking about. You walk around, find a girl, invite her for a ficha and then you are lucky to fit half a cheek on a bench next to someone getting a lap dance. LOL Sounds like they have an opportunity to better utilize the space though.

Question. Is it a finished product? Think they'll continue to improve the area?

[Necropet]

Everytime you offer a drink to the girl she gets a commission on it. That's fichas.

Thanks! I've been to HKTJ once but never really paid attention to this.