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  1. #16020
    Quote Originally Posted by Aviator400  [View Original Post]
    Looks like you are right. This from Wikipedia:

    Healthcare in Mexico is provided by public institutions run by government departments, private hospitals and clinics, and private physicians. It is largely characterized by a special combination of coverage mainly based on the employment status of the people. Every Mexican citizen is guaranteed no cost access to healthcare and medicine according to the Mexican constitution and made a reality with the "Institute of Health for Well-being. ".

    Not sure why her bills show payments. And in one case she had to have a friend front her money. Might have to delve into this a little deeper. Thanks for pointing it out.
    Free health care may be just some BS with very limited medical and prescription coverage. Most citizens might have to op for private pay care to just to get some reliable care.

    Maybe a visit to the free health care hospital would provide some answers!

  2. #16019
    Quote Originally Posted by Aviator400  [View Original Post]
    Looks like you are right. This from Wikipedia:

    Healthcare in Mexico is provided by public institutions run by government departments, private hospitals and clinics, and private physicians. It is largely characterized by a special combination of coverage mainly based on the employment status of the people. Every Mexican citizen is guaranteed no cost access to healthcare and medicine according to the Mexican constitution and made a reality with the "Institute of Health for Well-being. ".

    Not sure why her bills show payments. And in one case she had to have a friend front her money. Might have to delve into this a little deeper. Thanks for pointing it out.
    My first thought was maybe she was just working you for money like they do. But maybe she is not a Mexican citizen?

  3. #16018

    Mexican Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackie888  [View Original Post]
    What's the story about the medical bills in Mexico? I was under the impression that Mexico has universal health care. They have their own version of Obamacare, a very low cost insurance. But if you have very low taxable income, it is free. So in theory, your gal who works on a pure cash basis, she is entitle to free medical care. Unless of course, she is unaware since many of these chicas are kind of clueless on the medical care they are entitled to if they filed their paperwork.
    Looks like you are right. This from Wikipedia:

    Healthcare in Mexico is provided by public institutions run by government departments, private hospitals and clinics, and private physicians. It is largely characterized by a special combination of coverage mainly based on the employment status of the people. Every Mexican citizen is guaranteed no cost access to healthcare and medicine according to the Mexican constitution and made a reality with the "Institute of Health for Well-being. ".

    Not sure why her bills show payments. And in one case she had to have a friend front her money. Might have to delve into this a little deeper. Thanks for pointing it out.

  4. #16017
    Quote Originally Posted by Aviator400  [View Original Post]
    A couple of points based on conversations I have had with trusted BGs.

    O ATFs have said that they could make $500/ night. However, they don't like the night shift, because most guys are there to party and get drunk, not arriba.

    O She works six days a week 10-12 hours a day and has little time for outside interests. If she doesn't work those kinds of hours, management threatens to terminate her.

    O She is almost always broke, in part due to bad money management and due to illnesses. (She has a heart condition that was undiagnosed for a long time that caused her to miss a lot of work. She is now on meds.).

    O There is no medical insurance in Mexico and several girls have shown me bills in the thousands of dollars for medical care.

    O She has had multiple surgeries, primarily to address cosmetic issues, but also had some medical problems that required surgical intervention..
    What's the story about the medical bills in Mexico? I was under the impression that Mexico has universal health care. They have their own version of Obamacare, a very low cost insurance. But if you have very low taxable income, it is free. So in theory, your gal who works on a pure cash basis, she is entitle to free medical care. Unless of course, she is unaware since many of these chicas are kind of clueless on the medical care they are entitled to if they filed their paperwork.

  5. #16016

    Since we are still on the topic of money

    A couple of points based on conversations I have had with trusted BGs.

    O ATFs have said that they could make $500/ night. However, they don't like the night shift, because most guys are there to party and get drunk, not arriba.

    O She works six days a week 10-12 hours a day and has little time for outside interests. If she doesn't work those kinds of hours, management threatens to terminate her.

    O She is almost always broke, in part due to bad money management and due to illnesses. (She has a heart condition that was undiagnosed for a long time that caused her to miss a lot of work. She is now on meds.).

    O There is no medical insurance in Mexico and several girls have shown me bills in the thousands of dollars for medical care.

    O She has had multiple surgeries, primarily to address cosmetic issues, but also had some medical problems that required surgical intervention.

    O She hates her work as a puta. She was trafficked as a teen and really doesn't know much else. Never received much in the way of education.

    O She is now pushing 30, but doesn't see leaving the profession for at least 10 years. (However, I think some of them will age out or burn out before then.).

    O She officially lives in a studio apartment in another town. HK rents rooms to the dancers for $20/ night, so she will spend a few days in town working and then journey home.

    O She has been robbed multiple times on the street, at home, in the hotel, in the club.

    O She has been assaulted multiple times. A few of those times she was hospitalized.

    O She has been insulted many times due to her profession. (When most of us are insulted, we just tell the insultor to FO, but over time it wears on a person.).

    O She has been beaten by a novio so badly that she was hospitalized. She feels lonely and wants a romantic relationship.

    O She works in an environment where all the other girls all see her as competition. All of the staff want to fuck her for free or are profiting from her. (She said that a manager will not allow her to work the day shift, because she makes too much money for him selling drinks.).

    So, we will never know exactly what the girls make, but considering what they have to go through to make that money.

  6. #16015

    Good luck

    Quote Originally Posted by BigMagick  [View Original Post]
    A buddy of mine got me into this life style because he was dating american strippers. I saw the behind the scenes of american strippers and some of them can make 1 k or more in a night and without having sex! Now this is in america. I don't know how many of these type of guys are willing to go down to Tijuana but maybe a zona girl making 500+ a night isn't so crazy.

    I think a part of why we can't settle this debate is because we are looking at it from a mans perspective. I know if I could make 1 k a day I would work 7 days a week but girls don't think like that. They want to do the bare minimum so they can spend the rest of the time lounging around and going on trips.

    Just right now a few of the girls I know are taking the summer off to do nothing, well nothing but party all night and sleep all day.

    I compare bar girls to real estate agents all the time. Some agents barely scrape by 40-50 k a year and some make multiple six figures. Some agents are just born natural salesmen and some just work really hard.

    I think the same can be said about working girls. Some are just born naturally beautiful and with good personality and some just work really hard at it while the rest just kind of scrape.

    So yes some are making big money and some are barely making enough because like everything else in life, you get what you put into it.

    I swear I'm going to get one of the top girls to tell me the truth one day and also get the truth from one of the lower tier girls. I will come back and report my findings LOL.
    I agree with most girls are lazy part. That's why a place like HK has to force them to go dance or not let them just be in some guys room getting high the whole shift. The one thing you failed to mention also is that most girls are young and have never had money before so when they make so much money so fast it's easy for them to spend it unwisely like on expensive cloths, bags or trips. I look at it the same way as poor guys that are athletes and come into a ton of money so they are immature and just buy ridiculous things.

    BTW good luck on finding out the truth with the money.

  7. #16014
    Quote Originally Posted by BigMagick  [View Original Post]
    A buddy of mine got me into this life style because he was dating american strippers. I saw the behind the scenes of american strippers and some of them can make 1 k or more in a night and without having sex! Now this is in america. I don't know how many of these type of guys are willing to go down to Tijuana but maybe a zona girl making 500+ a night isn't so crazy.

    I think a part of why we can't settle this debate is because we are looking at it from a mans perspective. I know if I could make 1 k a day I would work 7 days a week but girls don't think like that. They want to do the bare minimum so they can spend the rest of the time lounging around and going on trips.

    Just right now a few of the girls I know are taking the summer off to do nothing, well nothing but party all night and sleep all day.

    I compare bar girls to real estate agents all the time. Some agents barely scrape by 40-50 k a year and some make multiple six figures. Some agents are just born natural salesmen and some just work really hard.

    I think the same can be said about working girls. Some are just born naturally beautiful and with good personality and some just work really hard at it while the rest just kind of scrape.

    So yes some are making big money and some are barely making enough because like everything else in life, you get what you put into it.

    I swear I'm going to get one of the top girls to tell me the truth one day and also get the truth from one of the lower tier girls. I will come back and report my findings LOL.
    Guys on the forum tend to fuck up by taking what a girl makes per day on her best day and scaling it up to 300 working days because they work 300 days in the US. You need to ask what a girl in fact brought home the prior year after all of her fucking work expenses, assuming of course that she actually knows since she is on a cash basis and probably do not keep books on herself.

  8. #16013

    Since we are still on the topic of money

    A buddy of mine got me into this life style because he was dating american strippers. I saw the behind the scenes of american strippers and some of them can make 1 k or more in a night and without having sex! Now this is in america. I don't know how many of these type of guys are willing to go down to Tijuana but maybe a zona girl making 500+ a night isn't so crazy.

    I think a part of why we can't settle this debate is because we are looking at it from a mans perspective. I know if I could make 1 k a day I would work 7 days a week but girls don't think like that. They want to do the bare minimum so they can spend the rest of the time lounging around and going on trips.

    Just right now a few of the girls I know are taking the summer off to do nothing, well nothing but party all night and sleep all day.

    I compare bar girls to real estate agents all the time. Some agents barely scrape by 40-50 k a year and some make multiple six figures. Some agents are just born natural salesmen and some just work really hard.

    I think the same can be said about working girls. Some are just born naturally beautiful and with good personality and some just work really hard at it while the rest just kind of scrape.

    So yes some are making big money and some are barely making enough because like everything else in life, you get what you put into it.

    I swear I'm going to get one of the top girls to tell me the truth one day and also get the truth from one of the lower tier girls. I will come back and report my findings LOL.

  9. #16012
    Just got back. Not much going on tonight. Seemed like an average Tuesday night. Didn't end up finding any of the girls I was hoping to run into.

    Went to Adelitas for a while, was approached by a very sweet girl. Not the stripper or bar girl type at all. Cute looking, early to mid 20's. Said it was her first week on the job and I believed her. I didn't even buy her a drink or anything and she talked to me for a while. Unfortunately she was covered in glitter from head to toe. I hate that. It got all over my clothes and she wasn't even on me that much. If she didn't have the glitter all over I probably would have taken her upstairs since she had the whole cute new to the game aura about her. Just ended up tipping her a few bucks. About a half hour later some guy that looked like Steve Kerr took her to a booth, probably ended up taking her upstairs.

  10. #16011
    Quote Originally Posted by BaxterSlade  [View Original Post]
    Man you got lucky, my guess is more than half the time guys send money in advance they get ghosted when its time for the meetup.
    Yeah, believe me I was fully aware of the possibility of getting ghosted but decided to go with my gut instinct that she wouldn't pull that with me. She seems to be an extremely honest person with zero filter. Nonetheless I still took the risk hoping this goodwill on my part would be compensated with a reward. I had sent the money from my "executive account" for all my Mad Men fans, so if I lost it, no biggie.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slicknaz  [View Original Post]
    I am in the area for a few more days and might be interested in making one more trip before heading back home, if you would like to do a little meetup trip shoot me a message and maybe we can link up for a few drinks and laughs.
    I'm going back around 7 pm later on probably. Don't know if I'm going to drive into Mexico or park somewhere near the border and walk over yet. I'll probably make another trip on Thursday as well.

    Hopefully I can find one of the girls from the foam show I mentioned from Sunday night. Also going to look for that girl from Adelitas that a monger wouldn't let go of because she sets off my GFE spidey senses LOL.

  11. #16010
    Quote Originally Posted by LuvMexicanas  [View Original Post]
    How is that possible? You previously argued that hot Hong Kong chicas make $5,000 some weeks. Let's be conservative and say she makes that 12 out of 52 weeks. That's $60,000 just those weeks alone on top of what she makes without hitting $5,000 during the other weeks she elects to work. How could her apartment be so ghetto if she's making all that cheddar?
    The thing about Mexico that some of us forget is that there's.

    A) Pretty much zero social safety net.

    And.

    B) If a girl turns to SW, there's a better than even money chance that they're supporting kids, probably parents / grandparents, possibly siblings, and nieces / nephews.

    If they're sensible, they're saving their shekels too, with an eye to when they just can't do SW anymore, whether because their looks have gone and / or either their physical or mental health can't take it anymore. I've met more than one that planned to open a business in their hometown at some point. Yes, US $50 k a year can make a nice life in Mexico, but a couple years at that kind of money can set up a person for life if they're resourceful.

  12. #16009

    One more trip

    Quote Originally Posted by Nothing24  [View Original Post]
    First time doing it but I sent a HK girl $100 via Western Union a couple days ago. She hit me up with the "sick daughter" schtick. Could have been true or maybe she just wanted some money to party. Either way we have had a pretty good rapport going and she provides GFE for me, except for intercourse which has always been covered. Anyway, we had already agreed to meet up on Sunday so she said if I did her the favor of sending her the money so she could take her daughter to the doctor I wouldn't have to pay for our next session and she would give me extra time as well. Since we've had a good thing going I said what the hell and sent it to her. It did cross my mind that she wouldn't come through on her promises but I sent it anyways.

    Sunday she responded to my text for our session right away and said she would be waiting for me. We met up and to my surprise this time treated me to BBFSCIP. The crazy part was I didn't even realize she inserted me bareback until a couple minutes in LOL. Everything just went by so quickly and we started going at it immediately, lost track of everything caught up in the moment. Since she gave me the full GFE treatment I felt bad not giving her at least a tip so I gave her $20 and she was trying to refuse it saying it was ok and that we already had an agreement on the payment. I told her it was fine and to take it so she can buy herself something for dinner and she reluctantly took it.

    Afterwards I was in the bathroom and I heard a couple guys talking about a foam show going on in the little club Miami area where there was a naked guy eating out some girl. Figured I would take a look and have a few laughs. Sure enough the guy was on the stage with two girls actually and they were all fully naked. Didn't think they would allow that in there but the staff didn't seem to give a damn. One of the girls was jerking him off wanting him to get hard so he could bang the other girl and everyone was yelling. I guess he got a case of performance anxiety and he could not rise to the occasion. He still seemed to be having a blast though. I made sure to remember what these girls looked like because they seemed like a wild pair. Later on I talked to the better looking one and treated her to a ficha where she let me get her with some good FIV action and she wanted me to take her upstairs. I asked if she provided BBBJ and she said she would for $120. Thought about it for a minute but ended up passing..
    I am in the area for a few more days and might be interested in making one more trip before heading back home, if you would like to do a little meetup trip shoot me a message and maybe we can link up for a few drinks and laughs.

  13. #16008
    Quote Originally Posted by LuvMexicanas  [View Original Post]
    That's a lot of speculation. Bottom line, if she made as much as you claim hot Hong Kong chicas make, she wouldn't live in such a place.
    Met a guy on the trolley on the way back to the airport from San Ysido who lives on la Zona with his GF (real GF not a working girl) and pays $350/ mo. For 3/2 apartment. He laments is not in a good area surrounded by "all the working girl houses" but does what he does to survive versus being homeless in San Diego. His GF found it. He goes to work daily in San Diego crossing the border. Kicking myself in the ass for not buying a home in San Diego in 1999 for low $200 K.

  14. #16007
    Quote Originally Posted by Nothing24  [View Original Post]
    First time doing it but I sent a HK girl $100 via Western Union a couple days ago. She hit me up with the "sick daughter" schtick. Could have been true or maybe she just wanted some money to party. Either way we have had a pretty good rapport going and she provides GFE for me, except for intercourse which has always been covered. Anyway, we had already agreed to meet up on Sunday so she said if I did her the favor of sending her the money so she could take her daughter to the doctor I wouldn't have to pay for our next session and she would give me extra time as well. Since we've had a good thing going I said what the hell and sent it to her. It did cross my mind that she wouldn't come through on her promises but I sent it anyways.

    Sunday she responded to my text for our session right away and said she would be waiting for me. We met up and to my surprise this time treated me to BBFSCIP. The crazy part was I didn't even realize she inserted me bareback until a couple minutes in LOL. Everything just went by so quickly and we started going at it immediately, lost track of everything caught up in the moment. Since she gave me the full GFE treatment I felt bad not giving her at least a tip so I gave her $20 and she was trying to refuse it saying it was ok and that we already had an agreement on the payment. I told her it was fine and to take it so she can buy herself something for dinner and she reluctantly took it.
    Man you got lucky, my guess is more than half the time guys send money in advance they get ghosted when its time for the meetup.

  15. #16006

    To big

    Quote Originally Posted by BaxterSlade  [View Original Post]
    Yea the problem with places like HK they think they are to good to take your requests unless they happen to fall into there playlists. However go in those 2nd tier bars and a $1 will get your songs played right away.

    Pre pandemic the Gold Palace DJ would remember all our favorites and just start playing them as soon as we walked in the door.
    I often think of some of the bigger bars in Tijuana like the big casinos in Vegas. The part in the movie "Casino" at the end when he talks about the corporations taking over and the casino not remembering what you drink anymore and taking a week to get room service. It's hard not to take some personal blame for what it has become because a lot of it has to do with all the info on the internet and we all have contributed to that.

    I was actually eating a terrible meal at Azul a few weeks ago and was watching who was going in and out of Gold Palace. Didn't seem to bad but have never bothered trying the place. I really try to avoid the alley.

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