Hong Kong Club Reports

[Zenduka1]

Why is speaking English a red flag? You'll be able to have more chemistry and talk about things more than just asking what their name is and saying arriba / cuanto cuesta. I think talking to chicas using google translate is sad and pathetic even though that's what you got to do if you don't speak Spanish.

You should really study so you can have acceptable level of communication with Spanish, the rest you can augment with translation using your phone. The girls are way much more understanding that the common person when it comes to this. Red Flags are numerous and speaking English at you is one of them. Besides if you know it you will sound much more attractive to the girls when you try Spanish with a bit of good (not the ugly American) accent no matter how slow you speak. Work on the accent and study descriptive sentences.

My second point is the most important though. If you find a ravishing girl with excellent attitude then consider yourself the luckiest person because it is rare. Forget that, it is hard to find a girl with true and good attitude period. So you got to be selective. If you are likable and are good in selecting carefully you can have a time of your life.

[HK Monger]

Generally speaking if she's fluent in English she's been around too many gringos. And when that happens they tend to develop shark-why habits and their service goes downhill rapidly.

If you want good times, consistently, you have to be able to carry a rudimentary conversation in Spanish.

Exactly. This isn't to say that if a girl speaks English she is necessarily bad. But if you play the law of averages, the ones that speak good english do tend to be more of the "gringo hunter" types. If you go there frequently, I would strongly suggest you beef up your spanish skills, as it opens up a lot more opportunities.

Also, I never found the language barrier to be that much of an issue, even when I spoke no spanish. if you are just there for the night, and you want to bust out google translate, go for it. No one is gong to care.

[Jackie888]

Yep. I know which drivers you are referencing. I dread the old skinny guy driving me. He is hating life and makes sure that everyone around him knows it.

And I hated the fat old grumpy dude who was rude as fuck. He was loathed by other drivers and got his position because he spoke English and was with HK for a long time. The other drivers probably got sick of his shit and push him back down.

[Aviator400]

From the border to the Hotels they never ask but at times they check if you enter either Cas or Rizo.

From the Hotels to the border if they know you are have seen you leave the Hotels and you carry a bag they don't bother. At times they will right your name at other times they either ask a ride card from the Hotels or a VIP card.

It is inconsistent. But their guidelines are consistent. Check!

There are two older drivers I do not like, both are extremely rude, one is an old skinny dude another a former manager demoted for one reason or another. These guys hate you for no reason and when you tip them they will snatch the dollars out of your hand.

Yep. I know which drivers you are referencing. I dread the old skinny guy driving me. He is hating life and makes sure that everyone around him knows it.

[Phordphan]

Why is speaking English a red flag? You'll be able to have more chemistry and talk about things more than just asking what their name is and saying arriba / cuanto cuesta. I think talking to chicas using google translate is sad and pathetic even though that's what you got to do if you don't speak Spanish.

Generally speaking if she's fluent in English she's been around too many gringos. And when that happens they tend to develop shark-why habits and their service goes downhill rapidly.

If you want good times, consistently, you have to be able to carry a rudimentary conversation in Spanish.

[ABAJoeSmith123]

#1. English speaking girls are a thing of red flag in the zona, always.

#2. Always go for a acceptable looks and highly attractive attitude in the moment.

With these you can minimize bad sessions. Select carefully, specifically a girls attitude in the moment, which otherwise you can ruin your trip every time you are down there.

Why is speaking English a red flag? You'll be able to have more chemistry and talk about things more than just asking what their name is and saying arriba / cuanto cuesta. I think talking to chicas using google translate is sad and pathetic even though that's what you got to do if you don't speak Spanish.

[Zenduka1]

2) 1. Strike out: This girl spoke good english (see. Already a bad sign, but no, she did not wear glasses) I asked her how she came to speak english and she said from her job managing a timeshare in playa del carmen, or something like that.

2. Home run: My next session was with a less experienced girl. Her face was about a 7 (Cute, but not too cute. More girl next door looking, rather than model looking. She had kind of a big nose.) but her body was a 10. .

#1. English speaking girls are a thing of red flag in the zona, always.

#2. Always go for a acceptable looks and highly attractive attitude in the moment.

With these you can minimize bad sessions. Select carefully, specifically a girls attitude in the moment, which otherwise you can ruin your trip every time you are down there.

[ABAJoeSmith123]

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[HK Monger]

These are my last three sessions, in order. They happened on different dates. I'm a low volume guy at this point and pretty selective, so sometimes I will go the the club without taking a girl up at all, or I will just go with one girl. (I'm not a guy who likes to kiss and tell so I'm not going to say names, or exact services provided.).

1) Strike out: This girl spoke good english (see. Already a bad sign, but no, she did not wear glasses) I asked her how she came to speak english and she said from her job managing a timeshare in playa del carmen, or something like that. I though that was plausible. She seemed to have a shtick (major red flag), when it came to dealing with customers, of immediately trying to grind on their lap. I really wasn't into the lap dances, though, and she kept doing it, which was kind of awkward. Really, at this point I was still like a newb after not having been in the game for over 4 years. My spidey-sense wasn't working, so I ignored all the warning signs. The main thing was that I potentially thought she could be freaky in bed, so I said, "hey, let's go to the room. " She quoted me $100. I said "OK". I did not have my own room on this visit, so we went to the exorbitantly priced short term room. I think the room manager may have actually laughed in my face as I handed over my life savings for 20 minutes in this small, cramped, dingy, hooker room. When, we got to the room, she immediately asked for the money and I obliged like an idiot. Well, once she got the money, the rules started coming out. "None of this" and "I don't do that". I was about to ask for my money back, but I wasn't really in the mood for a confrontation, so I just went with it. We got down to business but it was just that: all business. A boring session with basically no chemistry.

After this, I realized that I needed to up my game a little bit. This was my second strikeout and I was worried that HK had really started to suck. But maybe I just need a different approach. I bought the VIP card with the intention of getting my own room next time. Not only that, I would get the room at RIzo instead of HK. This would accomplish several things. First, it would remove the time constraint to some degree. Thus far, no one has come knocking on my room at Rizo. Second, it would remove the girls from their element, into a basically neutral site. This would shift the balance of power in my direction. Third, I would be getting away from those greedy HK fuckers, and going over to Rizo, where they are basically totally clueless about running a business (which is why it smells so bad in Tropical) but not as greedy. And yes, people, I know they are run by the same group.

My spidey-sense was starting to kick in at this point as well. My next two sessions would be home runs, as I will talk about in the next part. Need to sleep for now.

2) Home run: My next session was with a less experienced girl. Her face was about a 7 (Cute, but not too cute. More girl next door looking, rather than model looking. She had kind of a big nose.) but her body was a 10. She was all natural, and I can't remember if she had any tattoos. If she did, they were not prominent. She was probably early twenties, if that. She spoke no english and did not wear glasses. Apparently, she was from some town near Mexico City, and would be returning there soon. She didn't seem like much of a party girl when I asked her about nightlife and stuff in Tijuana. She was friendly, though, and had this kind of, "I'm just happy to be here" smile on her face. After a few drinks, I invited her to the room. I explained that I can't escort her through Chevelas because I have bad blood with the bartender who works there (I stole his girlfriend, back in the day), and he will make trouble for me if he sees me. It took a minute for her to understand what I was talking about, as it is kind of a weird request, but finally she got it. I gave her a dollar for the robe guy and said I would meet her right outside the door. Once she comes out, we walk across the street to Rizo, and in about 2 minutes we are in my room, which I had gotten for the night.

Another good thing about having your own room is the ability to control the ambiance. I actually don't like those "mood" lights (yes, another pet peeve), so I just turn on the bathroom light instead. I feel like the mood lights are still too bright and encourage the girls to put on a show, rather than have an intimate experience, which is the opposite of what I am aiming for. It's darker and more intimate with just the bathroom light on. Once the mood is set, we get down to business pretty quickly. This girl has NO restrictions, and is basically giving me a GFE. We finish, and then we are laying besides each other talking for a bit. I realize she isn't getting up to get cleaned up, so at one point I say, "I'm not sure if I can go another round so soon. " She is like, "why not?" So that was my queue to try again. I was surprised that I could go for another round so quickly after the first one, but I managed (I'm not 20 anymore, LOL). After we finish again, I begin to worry that the girl intends to stay all night, so I say that, unfortunately, I have to go to work tomorrow and I need to head out soon (which, in fact, was the truth). She goes into the shower to clean up. This girl literally took the longest shower ever. I was sitting on the bed saying to myself, "Is she ever going to come out of there?" But after what was about 15 min she finally emerged and got dressed.

Now the dilemma of what to pay. There had been no mention of money up until this point, so I was not sure how much she wanted. Since she had stayed extra time, and basically did what I wanted, with so called "extras", I felt like $140 was appropriate. I left that amount on the table. She scooped the money up without counting it and put it in her purse, so I don't know if she was happy with it or not. I got her number. For a girl this good, I couldn't miss that opportunity. I then walked her back across the street to HK and we parted ways.

Not sure what happened to her, but I haven't seen her in the club since that day, nor have I contacted her. I feel like she might be back in her home town at the moment. She was pretty cute and all but not "exactly" my type. Then again, I am very picky.

The next session coming soon. And then post game analysis.

[Zenduka1]

I don't think I've ever been asked to show a VIP card to ride the free HK shuttle either direction to or from the clubs & hotels..

From the border to the Hotels they never ask but at times they check if you enter either Cas or Rizo.

From the Hotels to the border if they know you are have seen you leave the Hotels and you carry a bag they don't bother. At times they will right your name at other times they either ask a ride card from the Hotels or a VIP card.

It is inconsistent. But their guidelines are consistent. Check!

There are two older drivers I do not like, both are extremely rude, one is an old skinny dude another a former manager demoted for one reason or another. These guys hate you for no reason and when you tip them they will snatch the dollars out of your hand.

[BrotherMouzone]

I once had a VIP card with dates that could be changed with a minor pen stroke and tried to pass it off, but they checked the records somehow & basically told me the card had expired.

LOL. I've never been bold enough to try this but year, they have the expiration dates stored in their computer system and they usually check. When my card expires I usually try to pass it to them anyway, acting like I didn't know it expired (LOL) but I've never gotten away with that (tried that like 4 or 5 times LOL). They always politely just tell me the card is expired and that I need to buy a new one on the spot to get the discount, which I always end up doing to save money.

[BrotherMouzone]

Is it smarter to book a hotel room at Cascadas ahead of time or should you just book it when you arrive?

If I 100% know I'm going (which I always do because I come to Tijuana from out of town) then yes, I always book ahead of time. IMO, there's no reason not to if you know you're going and what dates you'll be there. Especially for weekends, it eliminates the possibility that they claim they're out of basic rooms (assuming that's what you were going to get) and try to upsell you to a more expensive room. If you're going this week I'd recommend booking ASAP just to be on the safe side, though if you're going during the week in the daytime it's likely you have nothing to worry about. But I'd still book ahead of time anyway.

[Rainman306]

I don't think I've ever been asked to show a VIP card to ride the free HK shuttle either direction to or from the clubs & hotels.

They will ask to see the VIP card for any other discounts & check for validity / non-expiration. I once had a VIP card with dates that could be changed with a minor pen stroke and tried to pass it off, but they checked the records somehow & basically told me the card had expired.

[BigButtDetecto]

When a chica I didn't really want to session with wouldn't take a hint and kept insisting we go upstairs, I used to tell them yes if it's todo sin condon. The problem was too many would say let's go. Therefore, I adapted and started saying no dinero in which case they abandoned me faster than I'd blow my wad when I was 18.

When a chica keeps pressuring me, I just say that I am waiting for another girl; it works great.

[FunKing]

In theory yes, but I don't recall the last time, if ever, that I was actually asked for my VIP card to get to HK. I do always have luggage with me and tell them I'm going to Cascadas. But I really doubt the driving waiting would actually turn non-VIP members down, as long as they tip a couple bucks or so. Doubt he'll even ask whether your VIP in the first place.

At PedEast, the limo will often be behind a fence that you'll see on your right-hand side as you're walking out of the customs building along the walkway everyone walks on to get to the main street. If the limo isn't there, you can open the fence and walk through the dirt there and the parking lot you'll see in the distance to the HK office, where you'll be able to wait for the limo to arrive.

This video does a decent job of showing where the limo is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8u-...tlemen%27sClub.

Is it smarter to book a hotel room at Cascadas ahead of time or should you just book it when you arrive?